M> Community Co-operators

[patrick727]

M> Indicates that this is a project within the "Marketing" category

Goal:

Brief:

The RChain Cooperative is looking for activists/members to actively engage with the broader crypto-community in a way that clearly communicates RChain's value proposition in the native language and within the most important channels for that community, so that developers and enthusiasts have a constant point of reference as RChain releases more and more information.

The individual must be familiar with blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies in general, with an enthusiasm for the RChain technology, cooperative and ecosystem.

Languages(including but not limited to)

Chinese, Russian, Spanish, Various European, Indian, Japanese

Channels(including but not limited to)
Reddit
Telegram
Discord
Steemit
Slack
FB Groups

Responsibilities:

• Coordinating with marketing team and activists members to spread appropriate messaging across forum channels such as reddit, steemit, slack, fb groups.
• Provide support for questions and concerns asked through assigned channels
• Aggregate questions, concerns and answers to repurpose for content creation
• Organize and participate in local meetups and events related to rchain ecosystem
• stay up to date on industry trends
• provide engaging content for social channels
• update with feedback at the weekly activist meetings

Requirements:

• Sufficient experience in cryptocurrency communities
• Familiarity with RChain, Casper, blockchain technology
• Social media marketing experience is a plus.
• Writing and editing skills

*p.s changed the name to community drivers, because ian pointed out that we are cooperating, yes but we do not want co-opters lol

[Ojimadu]

Was thinking of the community creating a subreddit page

[patrick727]

@Ojimadu yes, I believe we have a subreddit /r/rchain-coop. But reddit is one of the main reasons that we will want a position like this. we need to have active engagement on these channels more then currently.

[Ojimadu]

How does one apply?

[patrick727]

At this point I dont know, was putting it as an issue in order to get feedback on what we think the role should entail, and if its worthwhile filling in out a personalized SOW.

I'll take this as your interested and will keep you updated. You can pm me your linkedin on discord if you'd like, I enjoyed the article that you wrote.

[Ojimadu]

Sure :)

[momchilov]

What about /r/RChain subreddit? If you have 200+ karma for your reddit profile, contact me.

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[jimscarver]

Community managers is somewhat ambiguous. I suggest Ambassador rather than Manager.
While there should be one responsible person we should encourage more links.
I suggest each channel be a /dig action activity in mattermost where members can commit to cover the channels they frequent

[patrick727]

@momchilov yes we need the karma to take that one over. it was established by someone during the synereo days. @jimscarver ok I changed it to co-operators.

Did you apply to be on the governance committee?

[kitblake]

I'd like to be an admin of the Telegram group.

[Ojimadu]

@momchilov, I frequent reddit but mostly just to read and not really engage in discussion until recently because some sub-reddit I use requires certain amount of karma to participate especially /r/ethtrader. I also frequent Telegram, Facebook and discord.

[entropee]

I suggest putting Mattermost in the list of platform experience. High on the list.

I like Jim's idea, above, too.

[patrick727]

@kitblake awesome! That would be great. @Ojimadu also very good to know.

@entropee when is the next hangout on social ledger/mattermost trial?

[entropee]

@patrick727 None formally scheduled. I suggest the noob class on Thursday, however we may be doing something else. I am available on short notice to zoom and show it to individuals or groups. Did you see the video that HJ and I did? HJ and Gary explore the Social Ledger in Zoom

[kitblake]

@patrick727 Do you happen to know who owns the rchain group on Telegram? Looks kinda parked.

[patrick727]

@entropee no I haven't yet but that's good to know.

@kitblake I believe Ed or navneet picked it up and it is parked. Will have to check into that

[kitblake]

@patrick727 Ok, no panic, lemme know..
When we're set we'll announce/add it to the channels.

[kennyrowe]

@patrick727 would it be helpful for this person to have a designated sponsor? Not a boss exactly but a person responsible for showing them the ropes, and helping them navigate the existing community?

[Ojimadu]

I think that would be nice @kennyrowe. Especially when the person is beginning.

[derek7272]

I'd be interested in working as a Coop Co-Operator as well, maybe for a Facebook group.

[patrick727]

@derek7272 awesome! Yes, in particular we need to get reddit working for the more technical audience. But a FB group is close behind so lets work that out.

@kennyrowe most certainly. I will help show them the ropes and part of the role will include engaging in the activist weekly meeting to provide feedback.

description updated

[kitblake]

@patrick727 Any luck finding out if the Telegram channel @rchain is parked by someone we know?
Just in case I made a backup, but it really would be good – given the impending demise of the RChain Slack – to have it up and running beforehand....

[patrick727]

Sorry kit, I forgot to do this. I will send out email today.

[patrick727]

@kitblake so it doesn't seem ATM we have the info for @rchain, lets run with the one that you have.

@derek7272, @Ojimadu, @kitblake @momchilov

I'll need to make a form to fill out for those that are interested.

subreddit is first priority, so if we could get RChain_Official operational asap would be of great help.

[derek7272]

Okay, I've set up https://www.reddit.com/r/RChain_Official/ .... not completely happy with how it looks, but it's a start. Message me your reddit usernames and I'll make everyone moderators.

[lapin7]

@Keaycee @kitblake could one of you give RChain FR the same outfit as rchain_coop?
And who can translate the English text into French?

[ResonanceXX]

I can help with the translation.  Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 at 18:17, HJ Hilbolling<[email protected]> wrote: @Keaycee @kitblake could one of you give RChain FR the same outfit as rchain_coop? And who can translate the English text into French? — You are receiving this because you commented. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or mute the thread.

[kitblake]

Great, if @ResonanceXX can translate the pinned message and rules, that's covered. I setup the corresponding files:
https://github.com/rchain/Members/blob/master/projects/bots/groupbutler/rules_fr.md
https://github.com/rchain/Members/blob/master/projects/bots/groupbutler/pinnedmessage_fr.md

@Keaycee knows how to do the admin (et son français n'est pas mauvais aussi).

[ResonanceXX]

To move up the telegram group numbers. I suggest we move around to Social media groups or platforms where the Nationals belong in large numbers.  1). Facebook Tech Groups. (Country specific)2). Twitter Follow chains (Country specific) 3). Other Online forums. E.g CompleteFranceForum.com Duolingo.com Frenchentree.com  I note that some may have requirements before belonging.  But the target audience is very much there. 

[ResonanceXX]

@kitblake this is a newer link.  Members/projects/bots/groupbutler/rules_fr.md

[kitblake]

Perfect @ResonanceXX !

For co-operators:
We now have Telegram bot files that follow the country naming convention, e.g. rules_fr.md
If needed we can create rules_cn.md, pinnedmessage_cn.md, etc.

[Keaycee]

@lapin7 @kitblake I did updated the previous pinned message on https://github.com/rchain/Members/blob/master/projects/bots/groupbutler/pinnedmessage_fr.md and it's currently pinned in the new RChain French group. I have also translated the welcome message and it's been set. The rules have been set in the group also. If there be any need for amendment you can suggest.

[Keaycee]

@kitblake @lapin7 @patrick727 I notice a bug on the telegram group. The group butler double messaged me when I installed the welcome message. It could be a bug in the new group butler [beta] because we only have one bot installed the group. Still trying to figure it out.
Also, the response from the Group butler is slow.

[kitblake]

How-To Update the Telegram Pinned Message
For new Telegram admins who don't know Github, updating the pinned message is complex:

1. Go to the appropriate file on Github, e.g. https://github.com/rchain/Members/blob/master/projects/bots/groupbutler/pinnedmessage_fr.md (login if needed)
2. Edit the doc (click on the pencil icon at the upper right of the box that surrounds the content). The code will appear in an editable textarea.
3. Put your cursor in the textarea, and select all.
4. Copy all the code.
5. Switch to Telegram, and paste the code into the message box.
6. Hit enter, and the message will post.
7. Right click, or tap, on the message and choose Pin Message from the menu.

Done.

[Keaycee]

Done @kitblake

[Ojimadu]

I have translated CONTRIBUTING.md to French. The link to it can be added to the pinned message on RChain FR telegram group.
https://github.com/rchain/Members/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING_FR.md

[ghost]

I would love to help. I think I fulfill all the requirements. How should I start?

[lapin7]

We have an interesting situation here. A "negative" reward was given to another participant.
It's good to explain it here by the ones who are involved, because it's a peer-controlled-correction so to speak.

$ Reward	Member	69.33%	8	Voted percentages	-5.00%	@Mervyn853
842.92	@momchilov	10.00%	2	Mervyn853 0.1 Ojimadu 0.1	10.00%	1
421.46	@kennyrowe	5.00%	1	derek7272 0.05	0.00%	0
547.90	@lapin7	6.50%	2	derek7272 0.1 Ojimadu 0.03	0.00%	0
505.75	@dckc	6.00%	3	dckc 0.03 derek7272 0.1 Ojimadu 0.05	0.00%	0
421.46	@derek7272	5.00%	2	derek7272 0.05 Ojimadu 0.05	0.00%	0
2,107.31	@Mervyn853	25.00%	3	derek7272 0.2 Mervyn853 0.35 Ojimadu 0.2	35.00%	1
0.00	@ResonanceXX	-22.50%	2	derek7272 0.05 Mervyn853 -0.5	-50.00%	1
927.22	@patrick727	11.00%	2	Mervyn853 0.15 Ojimadu 0.07	15.00%	1
1,404.87	@kitblake	16.67%	3	derek7272 0.05 Mervyn853 0.25 Ojimadu 0.2	25.00%	1
0.00	@Keaycee	-10.00%	3	derek7272 0.1 Mervyn853 -0.5 Ojimadu 0.1	-50.00%	1
1,404.87	@Ojimadu	16.67%	3	dckc 0.2 Mervyn853 0.1 Ojimadu 0.2	10.00%	1

[Mervyn853]

Just to clarify on the reasons for the negative rewards. I believe that this is a decent monthly budget issue due to the number of Channels this issue covers and the number of hours cooperators spend on managing these channels.

I mainly handle the reddit, bitcointalk, telegram, telegram trading (unofficial) channel and recently added a bot to track the activity in the official telegram channel. I believe the numbers here speak for themselves with regards to reward allocation.

I believe my activity across the channels lets me have a good gauge over the activity done in the various social / communication channels and I do not spend much time in Github commenting on issues as a result. The decision to place negative rewards only on this issue is due to the attack vector we faced from the previous month with ResonaceXX applying rewards to issues for mere comments.

This month we encountered the same issue and in fairness to @sportshark who had for 2 months had his issue of managing the QQ group and the Chinese fan website unfairly allocated. I believe that reward allocations should be based on the merits of the work done cited in the issue and not merely based off the comments activity in Github.

As can be seen in the screenshot, clearly the rewards system is being exploited by certain individuals and I have decided to give negative rewards to ensure the fairness of the rewards system as suggested in the previous month.

[dckc]

I struggle with budgets and rewards for this issue because the scope is not clear to me.

I would appreciate it if someone would explain and/or narrow the scope of this issue. How can we tell if we're done? Half way? Perhaps change the title to "grow community channels to 1000s of subscribers" and set goals such as 1000 on telegram (done) or 2000 (done?) and similar numbers on other channels.

While most of the work happens elsewhere, a brief report of progress here would be nice. Were there any particularly difficult situations you had to handle? Which messages need to be repeated most often? What onboarding techniques are most effective? To communicate RChain's value proposition, is there anything you find useful to point to, or do you write novel answers each time the topic comes up?

p.s. I started https://github.com/rchain/Members/wiki/Channels-Moderators as a way to collect some relevant info that's spread across issues such as this one and #162.

[pmoorman]

Hey all,

Yesterday I did some research on Keaycee's rewards allocation practices. I think this is highly toxic, and definitely needs to be talked about. This document greatly supports the point @Mervyn853 is making:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ipXnA_5TjKFbKcZlE6FmyBUvXM-_UfI-jn6zMg2Rs8/edit?usp=sharing

Bottom line: I fully support @Mervyn853 's allocation decision, and I think practices like that of @Keaycee pose a serious threat to the proper functioning of the coop.

P.S. It might be worthwhile to escalate this topic into it's own Github issue / discuss area.
Also curious to hear the thoughts of @Keaycee himself.

[Ojimadu]

I share the same sentiments as @Mervyn853 most of the work done on this issue is based off github as work is done managing other channels like telegram and reddit. I think this issue needs more clarity or there should be a split so work done can easily be tracked.

[Keaycee]

@Ojimadu @Mervyn853 @pmoorman Well, very true of what you said. Most of the issues i vote was on random selection and have no negative interest. Is there a document which state how the voting is been done? Many members don't know how this voting really works like. If i had voted for an issues wrongly, the first approach is too correct the coop member and also let him or her know the right way to do it just like @Mervyn853 did. It was my first experience in voting, i usually think there is a committee in check on that or sets the percentages. I get to know that it was decentralized. Since the voting is decentralized, corrections can easily be made. However, i suggest a document stating on how the voting system works should be made know to the coop newbies. Or probably set a board that does the voting.

[pmoorman]

Hey @Keaycee it's great to read your response, and I think you're right about it: this is one of the most confusing parts for new people to understand.

I am a newbie myself (just like you), and in a different kind of way it is causing me a very similar kind of confusion.

Suggestion...
How about we escalate this into a separate Github issue, and get to work creating something that will help everyone better understand how to vote in a way that'll keep everyone happy?

I would love to work together with you on something like that. Less confusion would lead to much happier coop members, across the board.

P.S. please note: I think the whole idea is still to keep things decentralised, and NOT have a board decide. So really the solution here is to work on clarity, and a little bit of "checks and balances" like his discussion... so that everyone understands how things work.

@Keaycee I'll invite you to the new issue once it's created, so we can work on it together.

[patrick727]

Yes this issue as morphed and lost its scope.

I'm going to close it and based on peoples activities personally reach out to become a "cooperator"

Then the cooperator tasked with a channel, such as telegram can create those issues that @dckc referenced, such as "2000 telegram subscribers" hopefully more like "50 Downloads of the SDK through telegram" so we can drive KPI's

[lapin7]

@Phistr90 please join
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!managemembers/rchain/join and send your email address to [email protected]