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DO NOT MERGE: New pattern abnDecEfficOfBiolProc June 28 2019 #483
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Can you improve the description by adding an example and add a more detailed distinction of efficiacy from rate? (produces more output, was it?)
Are deficiency and defectiveness really exact or rather broader synonyms of decreased efficiacy? |
@matentzn def: A decrease in the ability of a process to produce its output. Yes, I can add an example and more detail to the description. Efficacy refers to process output in general, rate specifically refers to process output per unit of time. I would think that "deficiency" and "defectiveness" are exact synonyms, but perhaps "deficiency" is a narrow synonym specifically meaning decreased efficacy to the point that the output is insufficient to meet some criteria. "defectiveness" I think is exactly synonymous with "decreased efficacy". I am planning on using this pattern for all of our "defective process" terms. |
Please note that processes are not linear, and a defective process can produce not only less than required (e.g., slow heartbeat) but also otherwise abnormal results (e.g., irregular heartbeat). I am not sure that this definition will be very enlightening. |
@pnrobinson |
Just to add: I had considered the PATO terms for "defective" but in one case it is simply a synonym of "abnormal" and in another it is a synonym of "non-functional", a physical object quality. I was looking for an appropriate PATO process quality term to capture the essence of "defective" |
@chris-grove can we somehow distinguish this pattern stronger from the decreased quality of process pattern? |
Just to update, here is current proposed pattern:
@matentzn @pnrobinson @matentzn |
I find this pattern a little confusing, such that I'm not sure whether I'd use it for FYPO (and if so, for which phenotypes). In particular, I don't think I see where @matentzn's request for "a more detailed distinction of efficiacy from rate" has been addressed. Maybe the underlying problem is that I don't quite get how one detects or measures a process's ability to produce output other than by measuring level or rate of output production. All that said, I don't have any reason to oppose adding this pattern, nor to its definition. I just won't use it until I actually get my head round it. |
A common phenotype in C. elegans is "dauer defective", in which case larval worms that would otherwise form dauer larva (a stress-resistant, long-lived, alternative larval stage induced by low food and/or high population and in which the worm mouth and anus close off from the external environment) do not (i.e. are not able to) form dauers. The observation might be significantly reduced numbers of dauer larva compared to controls or possible a complete lack of any dauers when control plates have a substantial number of dauers. We have lots of "chemotaxis defective" terms, many specifically pertaining to a particular chemical or odor, in which worms lose the ability to be attracted to or repulsed by a particular chemical/odor, as assessed by the number of animals localized near an odor or a control chemical on a plate after a certain period of time. These are usually reported using a "chemotaxis index" where +1 is complete attraction, -1 is complete repulsion, and 0 is no different from (an odorless) control. "egg laying defective" is another common C. elegans phenotype, in which animals are unable to carry out the normal egg laying process. This can result in worms that end up with an abnormally large number of eggs inside the uterus of the worm. An important point, I think, is that many times authors may report that some process is defective without explicitly providing the details as to how that was measured. Other times, the phenotypic assay may be quite particular such that creating a phenotype term for that specific assay would likely only cause confusion to end users and miss the point that the conclusion is that a well known biological process is not functioning properly or effectively. |
OK after some discussion with @matentzn here is a new iteration of the pattern with "deficiency" narrow synonym removed and an expanded description:
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@matentzn @dosumis |
I think we agreed on the call yesterday the efficacy was OK as long as it's clear that this refers to some effect on the output of the process. The only worry is that there may be many cases were we should probably go back and apply it. |
Created new pattern
abnormallyDecreasedEfficacyOfBiologicalProcess
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