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| # conda-forge core meeting 2023-07-26 | ||
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| - [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| - [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm) | ||
| - [Last week's meeting](https://hackmd.io/#REPLACE_ME#) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation | | ||
| | ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- | | ||
| | Dave Clements | DPC | tnabtaf | Anaconda | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | kathatherine | Anaconda | | ||
| | Bianca Henderson | BH | beeankha | Anaconda | | ||
| | Keith Kraus | KJK | kkraus14 | Voltron Data | | ||
| | Marcel Bargull | MB | mbargull | Bioconda/cf | | ||
| | Wolf Vollprecht | WV | wolfv | prefix.dev | | ||
| | Jannis Leidel | JL | jezdez | Anaconda/cf | | ||
| | Matthew R Becker | MRB | beckermr | cf | | ||
| | Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra | JRG | jaimergp | Quansight/cf | | ||
| | John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf | | ||
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| ### Active votes | ||
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| - [x] (JK) GLIBC 2.28 | ||
| - Red Hat source is no longer available, causing pain. | ||
| - KJK Alma Linux put out announcement about being ABI compatible. | ||
| - MRB: we don't yet know how this is going to shake out. Might be prudent to wait and see who wins. | ||
| - How concerned are we with bug-for-bug compatibility | ||
| - Some concern, but not enough to hold this back? | ||
| - CUDA 12 blocked until this is resolved. | ||
| - JK will create an issue | ||
| - [x] (MRB) yank conda 23.7 `--json` flag is broken | ||
| - This can't be! (Or, it should not have made it through testing) | ||
| - https://github.com/conda/conda/issues/12928 | ||
| - [x] (JK) Windows ARM | ||
| - CLA holdup: https://github.com/conda/conda-build/pull/4867 | ||
| - JL: working towards having CLA conform with governance. Working with NumFOCUS. It's coming! | ||
| - Planning to patch feedstock with this change | ||
| - [x] (BH) Feedstock updates for [conda](https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-feedstock/pull/213)/[conda-build](https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-build-feedstock/pull/204) July releases have been filed | ||
| - [x] (DPC) [PackagingCon](https://packaging-con.org/) submission deadline is July 31. | ||
| - Anyone want to submit something about conda-forge? | ||
| - Jaime will submit somthing about conda. Conda-store also coming. | ||
| - [x] (DPC) conda-forge presence at NumFOCUS projects meetup in Amsterdam? | ||
| - Meeting is 11-13 September, just after DISC, and just before PyData Amsterdam. | ||
| - Opening event the night of 10 Sept. | ||
| - Collaborative work on 13 Sept | ||
| - Most expenses are paid by NumFOCUS. | ||
| - Wolf and Jaime will represent conda-forge. | ||
| - Jannis is going for conda., but is willing to step aside. | ||
| - [x] (WV) sneak peek of pixi | ||
| - Pixi fresh look at tooling | ||
| - Written in rust on top of rattler. | ||
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| # conda-forge core meeting 2023-08-09 | ||
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| - [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09) | ||
| - [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm) | ||
| - [Last week's meeting](https://hackmd.io/#REPLACE_ME#) | ||
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| ## Attendees | ||
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| | Name | Initials | GitHub ID | Affiliation | | ||
| | ----------------------- | -------- | --------------- | --------------------------- | | ||
| | Matthew R Becker | MRB | beckermr | cf | | ||
| | Katherine Kinnaman | KK | kathatherine | Anaconda | | ||
| | Chris Ostrouchov | CO | costrouc | Quansight | | ||
| | Cheng H. Lee | CHL | chenghlee | Anaconda/cf | | ||
| | John Kirkham | JK | jakirkham | NVIDIA/cf | | ||
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| - [x] (JK) GLIBC 2.28 | ||
| - ARM / Power | ||
| - NVIDA CUDA static libraries (namely cudart) using 2.17 symbols only (others like cudadevrt or culibos use none?) | ||
| - (MRB) Should we mark existing glibc 2.28 sysroots as broken? Will submit PR and see what happens. | ||
| - SUSE as an option potentially? Will wait and see; still unclear where everything stands | ||
| - [x] (JK) Adding `conda-libmamba-solver` to Miniforge | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/issues/284 | ||
| - Jaime (absent): I won't be able to attend today but I am very interested in solving the question above. Miniconda already ships conda-libmamba-solver, and by the September release it will be the default solver (i.e. a `conda` dependency). So it will end up in Miniforge at some point when we update to 23.9 or above. The question is: shall we ... | ||
| - a) ship `mamba` in Miniforge too | ||
| - a2) the above, and deprecate Mambaforge | ||
| - and add links that redirect "mambaforge" -> "miniforge" | ||
| - use copies to ensure old installs work (if no redirect option) | ||
| - b) let `mamba` in Mambaforge only, and keep both installers separate, with the only difference being the presence of the `mamba` Python package (but note that libmamba and libmambapy are there) | ||
| - Discussion: generally have miniconda/miniforge (include conda-libmamba-solver) | ||
| - Are we dumping the pypy installers? keep (Up to Matti and others to decide) | ||
| - Handling PyPy as separate item (so keeping PyPy installers for now) | ||
| - List of artifacts | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge/releases/tag/23.1.0-4 | ||
| - Consensus is a2 | ||
| - [x] (JK) TexLive? | ||
| - https://github.com/conda-forge/texlive-core-feedstock/issues/84 | ||
| - We'll need to discover and solve dependency issues before we deprecate (if we choose to do so). | ||
| - We don't want to maintain a full (La)TeX distribution. Maybe add a caveat that this is for small bits of TeX, not a "full" distribution. (Reset expectations) | ||
| - Plan to add README (maybe also `description` in `meta.yaml`) to reset expectations about this package | ||
| - Point out release and migrator merged recently | ||
| - [x] (JRG) `osx-arm64` native runners. Possibility to ask for sponsorship to MacStadium ([they do it for Homebrew](https://www.macstadium.com/customers/homebrew)) or Scaleway ([they have an OSS program](https://www.scaleway.com/en/about-us/open-source-program/)). | ||
| - JRG: Sorry I will be absent but this was discussed briefly in the core chat and in case anyone missed it, posting it here for visibility. | ||
| - JRG: Scaleway offers "up to" 2400€/year for OSS projects. M1 runners cost 0.11€/h, so we can afford around 2.5 runners. | ||
| - Asked Amit about cirun support for scaleway | ||
| - [x] (MRB) Cirrus CI | ||
| - Limited free usage due to cryptominers | ||
| - Cost is rather high and may involve self-hosting (ToS) | ||
| - Running out of credits would mean it would stop suddenly (bad UX story) | ||
| - Will look at other options | ||
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| - [ ] (JK) Windows ARM | ||
| - [ ] (CHL) How long should we keep `osx-64` support? | ||
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