Update ru_RU.lang #85

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-03-28T15:26:42Z

This is an update from another Russian translator. This new Russian translation makes a more normal translation that allows people to read the name of options and their description in CREDITS much more pleasantly I left the past Russian translator (I recommend that you look at the changes to make your decisions later). Thank you in advance if you accepted!

Ultra119 · 2024-05-09T16:07:24Z

I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone, still translation is a time-consuming job. But translations of shaders must die. Such definitions are very difficult to understand in Russian, especially when it comes to abbreviations of software techniques (e.g. SSAO, RTGI). Such concepts are usually just not translated and used in the original.
As for the quality of the translation itself, it is either machine translation, or the person who translated it has a low level of knowledge in this area👀

X0nk · 2024-05-09T17:04:42Z

before i talk i wanna apologize for neglecting PR's... I have been really bad about that.

I understand your pain.
"SSAO", is an acronym for "Screen Space Ambient Occlusion", even if that is spelled out, the average person will probably not know what it means. the same goes for "RTGI", which is an acronym for "Ray Traced Global Illumination", even less people will know what it means.

Even in the original language (English), there is not a good alternative for writing things like acronyms of shader effects, while still allowing the average person understand what it is. having multiple words on a single button is not something i really want either, as the word will not always be able to fit on the button display.

the best thing i can think of is to format it in such a way that gives the most context:
[display text for button]: "SSAO"
[spell out the full acronym]: "Screen Space Ambient Occlusion"
[describe the effect for better context]: "This effect creates soft shadows in crevices and corners"

For the other topic, i have no way to do quality control on translations, because i do not know the languages. I can only trust that the translator is doing it well, and hope that other people who know that language will tune in to find any problems, like you are doing.

1.0-1.1.0 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Translations==] - New transfer to new options and commits! [==Fixes==] - Small fixes with the translation {==INFO==} In this update I decided to update the Changelog. This update finally brings a new translation to new options and commits! And finally found the correct translation of “Orb”! Thank you for reading!

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-27T13:29:27Z

I'm certainly not trying to offend anyone, still translation is a time-consuming job. But translations of shaders must die. Such definitions are very difficult to understand in Russian, especially when it comes to abbreviations of software techniques (e.g. SSAO, RTGI). Such concepts are usually just not translated and used in the original. As for the quality of the translation itself, it is either machine translation, or the person who translated it has a low level of knowledge in this area👀

Can you show the problem with my translation?
I need it to make my translation better.

Btw can you check version 1.1.0?
I might have forgotten to add brackets there.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:13:58Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----ResourcePack Sky-----]
+
+option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо РесурсПака


Suggested change

option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо РесурсПака

option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо из Ресурс Пака

Where did you find the word “of” in “ResourcePack Sky” and why did you decide to make it separate?
I usually make the translation accaurate and double-check the original with the translation.
It's even labeled original up there and you still decided to make such a translation.

At some points the original name is not shown and the ID name is shown instead

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:17:03Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----Contact Shadows-----]
+
+        option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = В пространстве-экрана Тени


Suggested change

option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = В пространстве-экрана Тени

option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = Тени в пространстве-экрана

It's my 100% mistake.
Thanks for noticing!

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:17:58Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----Shadows for the Player-----]
+
+        option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени для Игрока


Suggested change

option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени для Игрока

option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени от Игрока

You could do that but I think “for” is better suited as “для”.

Although...
I'll get to the bottom of it.

No I don't have to.
The word “from” translates to “от” so what you're suggesting is not the correct translation.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:21:35Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+|/////FloodFill/////|
+
+    screen.LPV = НаливноеЗаполнение (FloodFill) - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО IRIS§r


Suggested change

screen.LPV = НаливноеЗаполнение (FloodFill) - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО IRIS§r

screen.LPV = FloodFill - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЕН IRIS§r

Deleting the FloodFill translation is weird.

You could have deleted the whole thing then.
But you probably don't know the correct translation of FloodFill.

I don't think it's that important because they translate the same in English (REQUIRED IRIS).

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:22:11Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----Normal Strength-----]
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+        option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Нормалей


Suggested change

option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Нормалей

option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Карты Нормалей

I hope I'm not blind and really see that Normal Strength doesn't have the word “Map” in it so it's weird to call it that.
I already wrote about it in the beginning.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:23:34Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+|/////Sub-Surface Scattering/////|
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+screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Под-Поверхностное Рассеяние


Suggested change

screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Под-Поверхностное Рассеяние

screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Подповерхностное Рассеивание (SSS)

I hope you don't use a translator or why did you decide to remove the “-”?
Again I write that the original is shown above you can see that I made the translation more accurate.

But I noticed I got the participles mixed up.
Ty.

I knew I forgot to add a parenthesis somewhere!

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:24:10Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----LabSSS Curve-----]
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+    option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривость LabППР (SSS)


Suggested change

option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривость LabППР (SSS)

option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривая LabSSS

Here the verb fits much better than the adjective (I won't remove the parenthesis).

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:28:28Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----SSS for random blocks-----]
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+    option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = ППР (SSS) для разных блоков


Suggested change

option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = ППР (SSS) для разных блоков

option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = SSS для разных блоков

I won't remove the parenthesis.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:28:47Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----SSS for mobs-----]
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+    option.MOB_SSS = ППР (SSS) для мобов


Suggested change

option.MOB_SSS = ППР (SSS) для мобов

option.MOB_SSS = SSS для мобов

I won't remove the parenthesis.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:29:05Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----SSS from the sky-----]
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+    option.Ambient_SSS = ППР (SSS) от неба


Suggested change

option.Ambient_SSS = ППР (SSS) от неба

option.Ambient_SSS = SSS неба

Now you're the opposite you don't see the word “from” (I won't remove the parenthesis).

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:29:27Z

shaders/lang/ru_RU.lang

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+[-----Sky SSS Brightness-----]
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+    option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость Неба ППР (SSS)


Suggested change

option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость Неба ППР (SSS)

option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость SSS Неба

Noun + Adjective is better than Adjective + Noun unless it's English (I won't remove the parenthesis).

I thought for a long time here because I thought your correction was good but then I remembered the rules of the Russian language and it didn't appeal to me.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T16:31:46Z

That's just what I had the patience for)))))
For the rest, I don't want to waste my time. Translation is a mess.

Such concepts are usually just not translated and used in the original

@Ultra119

1.0-1.1.1 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Small fixes with the translation {==INFO==} This update is to fix the translations that @Ultra119 helped find them. Thank you for reading!

SanyaPilot · 2024-07-27T20:52:39Z

This seems like a poor quality automatic translate. Abbreviations shouldn't be translated, many strings are just illogical at all. I'm not sure if the author is familiar with a russian language, no offence.

Ultra119 · 2024-07-27T21:56:47Z

@null511 Note that he is also translating your Shrimple shader. And after 5 minutes of reviewing the localization file, I can say it's the same as here - terrible translation with a bunch of illogical decisions (like translating abbreviations) and simple 1st grade errors.

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-29T21:59:30Z

This seems like a poor quality automatic translate. Abbreviations shouldn't be translated, many strings are just illogical at all. I'm not sure if the author is familiar with a russian language, no offence.

This translation could not have been taken from a translator who could translate.
And I didn't even take Yandex Translator (Яндекс Переводчик).

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-29T22:15:21Z

SanyaPilot:
This seems like a poor quality automatic translate. Abbreviations shouldn't be translated, many strings are just illogical at all. I'm not sure if the author is familiar with a russian language, no offence.

Ultra119:
null511 Note that he is also translating your Shrimple shader. And after 5 minutes of reviewing the localization file, I can say it's the same as here - terrible translation with a bunch of illogical decisions (like translating abbreviations) and simple 1st grade errors.

I'll have to reconsider the translation. Ty!

You can close the development of my translation but do you want to look at the old translation where it is even stranger than mine or your translation?

But I will still check and release a new version where it will be fixed.

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-29T22:34:58Z

There's a reason I started double-checking.
Already found 15+ errors (so far for Bliss translation).

I should definitely double-check the Shrimple translation later.

1.0-1.1.2 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Bug fixes with translation! {==INFO==} I rechecked the translation and realized that I made a lot of mistakes when I started doing the translation (I was tired at the time). I hope there will be less of these mistakes! In Update 1.1.3 there will be fixes with translation on descriptions! Yes I didn't have time but if I'm tired I will make mistakes so I'm going to do it tomorrow! Thank you for reading!

SanyaPilot · 2024-07-30T03:46:20Z

This seems like a poor quality automatic translate. Abbreviations shouldn't be translated, many strings are just illogical at all. I'm not sure if the author is familiar with a russian language, no offence.

This translation could not have been taken from a translator who could translate.
And I didn't even take Yandex Translator (Яндекс Переводчик).

Okay, but this seems really weird

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-30T03:55:12Z

This seems like a poor quality automatic translate. Abbreviations shouldn't be translated, many strings are just illogical at all. I'm not sure if the author is familiar with a russian language, no offence.

This translation could not have been taken from a translator who could translate.
And I didn't even take Yandex Translator (Яндекс Переводчик).

Okay, but this seems really weird

I was tired/sleepy when creating the translation which is why it's so crooked/wrong.
I hope that update 1.1.2 fixed my translation errors for options and settings (1.1.3 fixes translation in option descriptions).

Ultra119 · 2024-07-30T10:18:38Z

I hope

I mean, you're hoping, are you kidding me? How can you do this without even understanding the end result, literally.
It's impressive how you manage to make every translation sound like it came from a fever dream.

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option.Emissive_Curve = Кривость Излучения

And then, the brilliant pivot to "Кривость Излучения" - truly, a masterclass in making things worse. Next time, how about aiming for "Кривая Излучения"? Or better yet, maybe leave the translations to someone who doesn't think "emissive" is a personality trait.

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-30T22:06:19Z

I mean, you're hoping, are you kidding me? How can you do this without even understanding the end result, literally.
It's impressive how you manage to make every translation sound like it came from a fever dream.

You're funny.

And have you even read the last few posts?
When I started working on the translation I was tired of having to translate and so I decided to release 0.9.0 and then 1.0.0 where there were these translation errors.

And I yesterday (24/07/29) re-checked the translation and yes found errors and corrected them even in some places there were no brackets now re-check the translation of the descriptions and so I do not need your opinion about my translation and I will continue to re-check the translation of the descriptions.

And then, the brilliant pivot to "Кривость Излучения" - truly, a masterclass in making things worse. Next time, how about aiming for "Кривая Излучения"? Or better yet, maybe leave the translations to someone who doesn't think "emissive" is a personality trait.

The reason I called it “Кривость” is because it is a Emission Action and this option is designed to change the curve as with the others and I actually originally wanted to call it “Кривое Излучение”.

You can help me but I decide which translation I think is good.

ShrikerChestTrees · 2024-07-30T22:11:10Z

It's like you're forcing me to stop the development of a new/updated Russian translation for Bliss to have the old Russian translation with a translator.
Tell me that “Энд”/“Незер” should be translated as “Край”/“Нижний мир”.

1.0-1.1.3 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Bug fixes with translation! {==INFO==} I have corrected the translation of the descriptions and from now on when new options and descriptions appear I double-check the translation to find errors. Thank you for reading!

Ultra119 · 2024-07-31T12:43:02Z

It's like you're forcing me to stop the development of a new/updated Russian translation for Bliss to have the old Russian translation with a translator. Tell me that “Энд”/“Незер” should be translated as “Край”/“Нижний мир”.

That's the thing, old translation was done better, even though it's outdated. You could just add missing lines, correct mistakes (although in comparison with your creation - there are no such). But no, you decided to create a bicycle, without pedals.

At this point, this “ controversy” can be labeled as exhaustive. I'm not against you personally doing this, I'm against such poorly executed translations being merged into the main repository, because the developer doesn't understand Russian anyway and he won't check the translation for quality, so you need other people who are native speakers and they can give their opinion.

1.0-1.1.3_Fix - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Fixing the text at the beginning. {==INFO==} This update is veeeeeeery small so I decided to call it "1.1.3_Fix". Thank you for reading!

1.0-1.1.4 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Corrects translation of option settings and descriptions! {==INFO==} This update is just a translation fix. Thank you for reading!

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Update 1.1.1

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1.0-1.1.1 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Small fixes with the translation {==INFO==} This update is to fix the translations that @Ultra119 helped find them. Thank you for reading!

Update 1.1.3

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1.0-1.1.3 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Bug fixes with translation! {==INFO==} I have corrected the translation of the descriptions and from now on when new options and descriptions appear I double-check the translation to find errors. Thank you for reading!

ShrikerChestTrees added 3 commits August 5, 2024 11:09

Merge branch 'X0nk:main' into Ru_ru.lang-update

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Update 1.1.3_Fix

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1.0-1.1.3_Fix - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Fixing the text at the beginning. {==INFO==} This update is veeeeeeery small so I decided to call it "1.1.3_Fix". Thank you for reading!

Update 1.1.4

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1.0-1.1.4 - Release Update ChangeLog: [==Fixes==] - Corrects translation of option settings and descriptions! {==INFO==} This update is just a translation fix. Thank you for reading!


		[-----ResourcePack Sky-----]

		option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо РесурсПака

	option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо РесурсПака
	option.RESOURCEPACK_SKY = Небо из Ресурс Пака


		[-----Contact Shadows-----]

		option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = В пространстве-экрана Тени

	option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = В пространстве-экрана Тени
	option.SCREENSPACE_CONTACT_SHADOWS = Тени в пространстве-экрана


		[-----Shadows for the Player-----]

		option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени для Игрока

	option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени для Игрока
	option.RENDER_PLAYER_SHADOWS = Тени от Игрока


		\|/////FloodFill/////\|

		screen.LPV = НаливноеЗаполнение (FloodFill) - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО IRIS§r

	screen.LPV = НаливноеЗаполнение (FloodFill) - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНО IRIS§r
	screen.LPV = FloodFill - §cОБЯЗАТЕЛЕН IRIS§r


		[-----Normal Strength-----]

		option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Нормалей

	option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Нормалей
	option.LPV_NORMAL_STRENGTH = Сила Карты Нормалей


		\|/////Sub-Surface Scattering/////\|

		screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Под-Поверхностное Рассеяние

	screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Под-Поверхностное Рассеяние
	screen.Subsurface_Scattering = Подповерхностное Рассеивание (SSS)


		[-----LabSSS Curve-----]

		option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривость LabППР (SSS)

	option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривость LabППР (SSS)
	option.LabSSS_Curve = Кривая LabSSS


		[-----SSS for random blocks-----]

		option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = ППР (SSS) для разных блоков

	option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = ППР (SSS) для разных блоков
	option.MISC_BLOCK_SSS = SSS для разных блоков


		[-----SSS for mobs-----]

		option.MOB_SSS = ППР (SSS) для мобов

	option.MOB_SSS = ППР (SSS) для мобов
	option.MOB_SSS = SSS для мобов


		[-----SSS from the sky-----]

		option.Ambient_SSS = ППР (SSS) от неба

	option.Ambient_SSS = ППР (SSS) от неба
	option.Ambient_SSS = SSS неба

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		[-----Sky SSS Brightness-----]

		option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость Неба ППР (SSS)

	option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость Неба ППР (SSS)
	option.ambientsss_brightness = Яркость SSS Неба