Merge pull request #768 from PerseusDL/tlg0007_review

tlg0007_review

data/tlg0007/tlg067/tlg0007.tlg067.perseus-grc2.xml

@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 <title type="alt" xml:lang="grc">Περὶ παίδων ἀγωγῆς</title>
 <title type="sub">Machine readable text</title>
 <author n="Plut.">Plutarch</author>
- <editor role="editor" n="Teubner">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
+ <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
 <sponsor>Perseus Project, Tufts University</sponsor>
 <principal>Gregory Crane</principal>
 <respStmt>
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@
 <monogr>
 <author>Plutarch</author>
 <title>Moralia</title>
-   <editor role="editor">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēss</editor>
+   <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēss</editor>
 <imprint>
 <pubPlace>Leipzig</pubPlace>
 <publisher>Teubner</publisher>

data/tlg0007/tlg068/tlg0007.tlg068.perseus-grc2.xml

@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ schematypens="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"?>
 <titleStmt>
 <title xml:lang="grc">πῶς δεῖ τὸν νέον ποιημάτων ἀκούειν.</title>
 <author>Plutarch</author>
- <editor role="editor" n="Teubner">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
+ <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
 <sponsor>Perseus Project, Tufts University</sponsor>
 <principal>Gregory Crane</principal>
 <respStmt>
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@ schematypens="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"?>
 <monogr>
 <author>Plutarch</author>
 <title xml:lang="lat">Moralia</title>
-   <editor role="editor">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
+   <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
 <imprint>
 <pubPlace>Leipzig</pubPlace>
 <publisher>Teubner</publisher>

data/tlg0007/tlg069/tlg0007.tlg069.perseus-eng4.xml

@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ schematypens="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"?>
 <div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="7"><p rend="center"><label rend="italic">Caution about Admiration.</label></p>
 	<p rend="indent">To contempt is opposed admiration, which indeed argues a more candid and better disposition; but even in this case no small care is to be observed, and perhaps even greater. For although such as are contemptuous and self-conceited receive but little good from what they hear, yet the good-natured and such as are given to admire every thing take a great deal of harm. And Heraclitus was not mistaken when he said that a fool was put in a flutter at every thing he heard. We ought indeed to use all the candor imaginable in praising the speaker, yet withal as great caution in yielding our assent to what he says; to look upon his expression and action with a favorable construction, but to inspect the usefulness and truth of his doctrine with the nicest and most critical judgment; that speakers may cease to be malicious, and that what they say may do no mischief. For many false and dangerous principles steal upon us through the authority of the speaker and our own credulity. The Spartan Ephors, approving the judgment of one of an ill conversation, ordered it to be communicated to the people by a person of better life <pb xml:id="v.1.p.449"/> and reputation; thereby wisely and politicly using them to give more deference to the morals than to the words of such as pretend to advise them. But now in philosophy the reputation of the speaker must be pulled off, and his words examined naked and without a mask; for in hearing as in war there are many false alarms. The hoary head of the speaker or his gesture, his magisterial look or his assuming pride, and above all the noise and clapping of the auditory, bear great sway with a raw and inexperienced hearer, who is easily carried away with the tide. The very expression, if sweet and full and representing things with some pomp and greatness, has a secret power to impose upon us. For, as many lapses in such as sing to an instrument escape the hearers, so luxuriancy and pomp of style dazzle the hearer so that he cannot see clearly the argument in hand. And Melanthius, as it is said, being asked his opinion concerning a tragedy of Diogenes, made answer that the words intercepted his sight of it. But most Sophists in their declamations and speeches not only make use of words to veil and muffle their design; but with affected tone and softness of voice they draw aside and bewitch their followers, for the empty pleasure which they create reaping a more empty glory. So that the saying of Dionysius is very applicable to them, who, being one day extremely pleased with an harper that played excellently well before him, promised the fellow a great reward, yet afterwards would give him nothing, pretending he had hept his word; For, said he, as long as you pleased me by your playing, so long were you pleased by hope of the reward. And such also is the reward this kind of harangues bring to the authors. The hearers admire as long as they are pleased and tickled, but the satisfaction on one hand and glory on the other conclude with the oration; and the hearers lose their time idly, and the speakers their whole life.</p> <pb xml:id="v.1.p.450"/> </div> 
 <div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="8"><p rend="center"><label rend="italic">How to separate the Useful Part of a Discourse.</label></p>
-	<p rend="indent">No, we must separate the trash and trumpery of an oration, that we may come at the more fruitful and useful part; not imitating those women who busy themselves in gathering nosegays and making garlands, but the more useful industry of bees. The former indeed plat and weave together the sweetest and gayest flowers, and their skill is mighty pretty; but it lasts for one day only, and even then is of little or no use; whereas the bees, passing by the beds of violets and roses and hyacinth, fix on the prickly and biting thyme, and settle upon this <q type="unspecified">intent on the yellow honey,</q> <note place="unspecified" anchored="true">Simonides, Frag. No. 47.</note> and taking thence what they need for their work, they fly home laden. In like manner, a wellmeaning sincere hearer ought to pass by the flowers of an oration, leaving the gaudy show and theatrical part to entertain dronish Sophists; and, diving into the very mind of the speaker and the sense of his speech, he must draw thence what is necessary for his own service; remembering withal that he is not come to the theatre or music-meeting, but is present at the schools and auditories of philosophy, to learn to rectify his way of life by what he hears. In order thereunto, he ought to inspect diligently and try faithfully the state and temper of his mind after hearing, if any of his affections are more moderate, if any afflictions grow lighter, if his constancy and greatness of spirit are confirmed, if he feels any divine emotions or inward workings of virtue and goodness upon his soul. For it becomes us but ill, when we rise from the barber’s chair, to be so long in consulting the mirror, or to stroke our heads and examine so curiously the style in which our hair is trimmed and dressed, and then, at our return from hearing in the schools, to think it needless to look into ourselves, or examine whether our own mind has discharged any turbulent or unprofitable affections <pb xml:id="v.1.p.451"/> and is grown more sedate and serene. For, as Ariston was wont to say, The bath and a discourse are of no use unless they are purgative.</p> </div> 
+	<p rend="indent">No, we must separate the trash and trumpery of an oration, that we may come at the more fruitful and useful part; not imitating those women who busy themselves in gathering nosegays and making garlands, but the more useful industry of bees. The former indeed plat and weave together the sweetest and gayest flowers, and their skill is mighty pretty; but it lasts for one day only, and even then is of little or no use; whereas the bees, passing by the beds of violets and roses and hyacinth, fix on the prickly and biting thyme, and settle upon this <q>intent on the yellow honey,</q> <note place="unspecified" anchored="true">Simonides, Frag. No. 47.</note> and taking thence what they need for their work, they fly home laden. In like manner, a wellmeaning sincere hearer ought to pass by the flowers of an oration, leaving the gaudy show and theatrical part to entertain dronish Sophists; and, diving into the very mind of the speaker and the sense of his speech, he must draw thence what is necessary for his own service; remembering withal that he is not come to the theatre or music-meeting, but is present at the schools and auditories of philosophy, to learn to rectify his way of life by what he hears. In order thereunto, he ought to inspect diligently and try faithfully the state and temper of his mind after hearing, if any of his affections are more moderate, if any afflictions grow lighter, if his constancy and greatness of spirit are confirmed, if he feels any divine emotions or inward workings of virtue and goodness upon his soul. For it becomes us but ill, when we rise from the barber’s chair, to be so long in consulting the mirror, or to stroke our heads and examine so curiously the style in which our hair is trimmed and dressed, and then, at our return from hearing in the schools, to think it needless to look into ourselves, or examine whether our own mind has discharged any turbulent or unprofitable affections <pb xml:id="v.1.p.451"/> and is grown more sedate and serene. For, as Ariston was wont to say, The bath and a discourse are of no use unless they are purgative.</p> </div> 
 <div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="9"><p rend="indent">Let then a young man be pleased and entertained with a discourse; but let him not make his pleasure the only end of hearing, nor think he may come from the school of a philosopher singing and sportive; nor let him call for perfumes and essences when he has need of a poultice and fomentations. But let him learn to be thankful to him that purges away the darkness and stupidity of his mind, though (as we clear beehives by smoking) with an offensive or unpalatable discourse. For though it lies upon a speaker to take some care that his expression be pleasing and plausible, yet a hearer ought not to make that the first thing he looks after. Afterward, indeed, when he has satisfied his appetite with the substance and has taken breath, he may be allowed the curiosity of examining the style and expression, whether it has any thing delicate or extraordinary; as men quench their thirst before they have time to admire the embossing of the bowl. But now such a one as is not intent on the subject-matter, but demands merely that the style shall be plain and pure Attic, is much of his foolish humor who refuses an antidote unless it be mixed in Attic porcelain, or who will not put on a coat in the winter because the cloth is not made of Attic wool; but who can yet sit still, doing nothing and stirring not, under such a thin and threadbare cloak as an oration of Lysias. That extreme dearth of judgment and good sense, and that abundance of subtilty and sophistry which is crept into the schools, is all owing to these corruptions of the youngsters; who, observing neither the lives nor public conversation of philosophers, mind nothing but words and jingle, and express themselves extravagantly upon what they think well said, without ever understanding or enqiring if it be useful and necessary, or needless and vain.</p> <pb xml:id="v.1.p.452"/> </div> 
 <div type="textpart" subtype="section" n="10"><p rend="center"><label rend="italic">Of asking Questions.</label></p>
 	<p rend="indent">After this, it will be convenient to lay down some directions touching asking of questions. For it is true, he that comes to a great collation must eat what is set before him, not rudely calling for what is not to be had nor finding fault with the provision. But he that is invited to partake of a discourse, if it be with that proviso, must hear with silence; for such disagreeable hearers as occasion digressions by asking impertinent questions and starting foolish doubts are an hindrance both to the speaker and the discourse, without benefiting themselves. But when the speaker encourages them to propose their objections, he must take care that the question be of some consequence The suitors in Homer scorned and derided Ulysses.— <quote rend="blockquote"> <l>To no brave prize aspired the worthless swain,</l> <l>’Twas but for scraps he asked, and asked in vain,<note place="unspecified" anchored="true"><bibl><title>Odyss.</title> XVII. 222.</bibl></note> </l> </quote> because they thought it required a great and heroic soul no less to ask than to bestow great gifts. But there is much better reason to slight and laugh at such a hearer as can please himself in asking little trifling questions. Thus some young fellows, to proclaim their smattering in logic and mathematics, upon all occasions enquire about the divisibility of the infinite, or about motion through a diagonal orupon the sides. But we may answer them with Philotimus, who, being asked by a consumptive phthisical person for a remedy against a whitlow, and perceiving the condition he was in by his color and his shortness of breath, replied, Sir, you have no reason to be apprehensive of that. So we must tell them, You have no reason, young gentlemen, to trouble yourselves about these questions; but how to shake off your conceit and arrogance, to have done with your intrigues and fopperies, and to settle immediately upon a modest and well-governed course of life, is the question for you.</p> <pb xml:id="v.1.p.453"/> </div> 

data/tlg0007/tlg069/tlg0007.tlg069.perseus-grc2.xml

@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ schematypens="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"?>
 <title xml:lang="grc">περὶ τοῦ ἀκούειν</title>
 
 <author>Plutarch</author>
- <editor role="editor" n="Teubner">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
+ <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
 <sponsor>Perseus Project, Tufts University</sponsor>
 <principal>Gregory Crane</principal>
 <respStmt>
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ schematypens="http://relaxng.org/ns/structure/1.0"?>
 <monogr>
 <author>Plutarch</author>
 <title xml:lang="lat">Moralia</title>
- <editor role="editor">Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
+ <editor>Grēgorios N. Vernardakēs</editor>
 <imprint>
 <pubPlace>Leipzig</pubPlace>
 <publisher>Teubner</publisher>