Favorites? Last Played? #12
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I think a lot of your asks has to be firmware driven. The only thing we can mess with is RA configs, but the S30 UI would have to change to let you mark a game as favorite or load favorites unfortunately :(. I'm bummed too, cause I think it's a cool device with potential but it needs a complete UI overhaul and way more functionality. Let me know if the person working on the new firmware needs help, I'm not much of a system level coder but can try to help out if needed. |
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@deusxmach1na the developer behind Retro Arena is now working on it, but we have one big issue if you'd like to see what you can do (not related to favorites, unfortunately). We have a working N64 core now but cannot get the analog stick to register. If you have the time, it would be awesome if you could take a look -- the more eyes we get on it the better. I worry that we're not going to be able to figure it out via the limited RetroArch config options we have, much like L2/R2 on PS1. Either way, here you go: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NqLgp6d_aCcrQPUc1tciNeGo1zUernnU/view?usp=sharing Thanks! |
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RetroArch v1.9.0So hey, I wasn't entirely sure where to post this, but this is something I have been working on all day today. This is a proper port of retroarch v1.9.0. Yes, that means it has the fully working menu system with all the bells and whistles. I made it so it completely replaces the god awful gmenu2x in it's entirety. If anyone would like me to tell you how I setup an environment to compile for this system, message me and I'll try to explain it. Anyway, you can clearly see there is a major issue at the moment, the menu is rotated 90 degrees. Games will play in the correct orientation thanks to the video_rotation setting, but it's really awful to navigate. I'm going to work on editing the render backend and hopefully implement a way to rotate all of retroarch, but for now, feel free to mess around with this. I'd recommend using a new SD card to test this, since I did a lot of file reorganization. Load up a core and select a rom, and it will be like the usual retroarch experience. You can press the power button to open the menu while playing a game as well. Other thoughtsNow that we have access to the menu system, I decided to mess around with how it handles input. The device it detects, the RetroArch also seems to be capable of reading the battery level of the device too, which is pretty cool. So hopefully once I sort out the kinks, this can be a good replacement menu. |
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Wow, this is incredible! Really well done. I'm going to share this with some others and see what they can do. Thanks for your hard work on this! |
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Hi, I've been working on this too. I've got the toolchain from the company for cross compiling and I've got a bunch of new cores for it. Ive got a hunch the rotation issue might have help on the hard kernel forums. On the Odroid Go Advance handheld the screen is rotated and I recall an issue with retroarch needing to be rotated on that screen too. |
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Ah. I couldn't find the toolchain so I just built it myself by looking up which version of GCC the internal libraries used. I couldn't find a way to rotate the screen at a kernel level, so I'm just modifying RetroArch's sdl2_gl driver to rotate it there. Since I posted my first preview, I've pretty much got it working. Still need to iron out a few issues.
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can i get the rotated binary please? I dont need everthing. just the actual file named retroarch. also if you want the toolchain i can share it. |
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Sure, but like I said it's incomplete. Only the menu is properly rotated at the moment on the sdl2 render driver. I think I messed something up too because the fps has dropped significantly. Going to try and fix it all tomorrow. I've been up all night trying to get this to work right. But yeah, if you could share the toolchain that would be great. My solution is rather hacky at the moment. |
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thanks. they actually sent me this, its an in development n64, the version of retroarch with a menu i asked them for, but like yours its rotated(menu only), and the toolchain. its rgui only which is fine, so long as it works, which it does so far, ive been playing with screen scaling. hopefully this will help you enable the buttons(which work on theirs) can you share either your sources or details on how you rotated the screen so i can share it with bitboy? |
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I'll be making a repo with the changes I've made to retroarch in the morning. I don't see their version of retroarch in there though, just the n64 core. |
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wrong link. oops. |
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Nice. I'll diff their source against mine and see what they changed. Thanks a lot for all this. I'll hopefully have a fully working retroarch in the next few days. |
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awesome. happy to help. I'm the guy who makes Retro Arena mentioned above btw. :) |
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having fun yet? |
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I made a bit more progress. The sdl2 driver is properly rotated and all the buttons now work thanks to the source. I found out why the L2 and R2 buttons weren't working in their build too, since they never defined them in retroarch's The last problem is more advanced emulators like n64 use the gl graphics backend, which isn't rotated properly at the moment. I don't really know much about opengl, so I'm pretty much stuck here. I think the best bet would be to figure out how to rotate the screen at a kernel level. Sadly changing the https://github.com/bkacjios/RetroArch/commits/pocketgo-s30 Here's my repo with the changes I made. It's not a lot, but figuring out the math behind rotating and positioning the output was a bit of a pain lol. |
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you can rotate the screen bro, they sent me retroarch and n64 and it was sideways too. you must go to user interface and enable advanced options before you can rotate the screen. Unless you mean a stand alone n64 non core. |
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can you share the binary so i dont have to compile please |
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I was talking about rotating the screen in the driver so the menus are correct. I know you can rotate the screen via the settings. I don't want that. I want the menus to be rotated correctly too. I'm trying to make it so everything just works. Like I said, the GL driver has issues in my build. This would way easier if I could just rotate the screen in the kernel Also the binary is literally at the top of the post lol |
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oh boy lol. my excuse is that ive been with my kids all day and its now after 11pm haha |
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is it possible to compile it so that it does not have to replace the front end? i can use it in a normal build, but then power exits the emu instead of bringing up the gui. I know the front end here is pretty bad but it still supports scrapes and graphics, some people like that more than an rgui menu |
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I'm not sure what you're asking. If you want to use it with the original gmenu2x frontend, you can definitely do so without needing to recompile anything. All I did was delete the original frontend and replace it with a script to launch retroarch. If you don't want that, use the original firmware and replace their retroarch binary with mine. |
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i did try using the firmware and replacing the binary, but the menu button exits the game instead of opening the retro arch menu that way. also i dont want to lose the stand alone psx emulator if possible |
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You need to edit your config then.
The buttons and what key they press differ on my build. |
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Also, you mind sharing your contact of the developer with me? I'd really like to ask them if they can provide the kernel and android related source files. If we could edit the kernel to rotate the screen and flash it, that would be a godsend. |
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[email protected] is the email, ask for vincent. Also, your retroarch has no close retroarch option i just noticed haha. not for in game, but not good if someone wants to enter the menu to make changes and leave or use scumm vm |
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Thanks. I'll shoot him an email. You can enable |
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my settings m match what you said but it still exits. it cant be hard coded in the front end because the company RA works but its sideways. But when i swap to your config start button becomes A to change setting and i have no back button. and still exit during game |
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the strange thing is if i put your retroarch over mine and keep my config, the buttons dont work and its rotated lol, including the menu. if i swap to your config in the build which is based on stock, still no buttons but the retroarch menu rotates the right way. is the option to rotate retroarch menu in the config? |
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@slaminger and @bkacjios Looks like it's coming along, keep going! I wish I knew C better so I could help. Thanks for all your hard work! |
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bkacjios ive noticed in your retroarch i cant map or move with the joystick, but in the factory provided retroarch with the sideways menu, i can configure and use the joystick, so whatever is missing is in the toolchain and sources we have. I was able to get most everything else working and integrated to keep the gxmenu front end and have the newer retroarch thats rotated correctly in the back end. |
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Awesome! I'll check it out now. Thank you :) |
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I've been able to install a lot of libs and start getting stand alones and ports going. |
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mp3s work ok, videos seem to not play/freeze the device, I tried going down as low as 320 but it didnt work, i only tried with mp4 tho. |
@slaminger I would really like some documentation/pointers on how to setup the cross compile environment, thanks :) |
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DT1TPZd79jQeNwelKxg8f096tPllSE4a/view?usp=sharing Download that onto a Linux system and extract it into a folder. cd into said folder and run the command It should then be as easy as running make, cmake, configure, or whatever in the project you are trying to compile. Some projects are easier than others. Just look out for setting the correct prefix, host, and target variables for the toolchain. |
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For anyone having joystick issues, mind giving this little program I made a test? Will show you the raw joystick values and any button presses. The tiny grey circle in the joystick display is where the joystick was reporting center when the program was opened. Holding start will exit the program.
After reverse engineering the manufacturers's joystick calibration program, I found that all it does is set an environment variable I'm going to try to make this a calibration program and integrate it with my build of retroarch. |
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@bkacjios Thanks again for the toolchain! The native port of Super Mario 64 is off to a good start :) Literally the first run of the binary on the device: |
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Oh nice! I was actually just thinking of doing the same thing! |
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Thanks everyone so much for your active work on this! I still need to update my GitHub repo to reflect the changes I've made to my 'Simple30' sd card image. Can't wait to try SM64 :) |
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I finished my joystick calibration program. It requires my version of SDL2 library and custom build of retroarch as well. It works by creating a Pressing SELECT will enter calibration mode. While in calibration mode, if you rotate your joystick, it will fetch the maximum ranges of each axis as displayed by little grey lines. While out of calibration mode, you can then see that the teal dot will show the scaled output that will be used by retroarch. Hold start to save/quit. |
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I've moved my new Simple30 "firmware" to a new GitHub repo to avoid confusion, which you can find here. It's a compilation of the work done so far and streamlined into a single user experience. @bkacjios I would like to incorporate your new calibration tool into my image if you're good with that. I had tried adding in your ffmpeg updates to my Simple30 but it ended up losing all menu button inputs in RetroArch, so I have to figure out how to get all that implemented. Thanks for your work on this! |
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Go for it. The program actually has a secret easteregg that contains my credits in it, so yeah. But also, yeah, my version of SDL2 has a different keyboard layout than the one the manufacturer used. That's why your buttons stopped working. The keyboard keys will now match the button names. Like the ABXY buttons will be ABXY on the keyboard rather than the strange ASZX layout or whatever it was. The trigger buttons are now {}() as well. You would just have to rebind everything in the input settings. Here's the file where I set the scancodes for the S30. |
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@bkacjios Is it okay if I start a repo for hosting your toolchain? That way I can have a Dockerfile that automatically builds binaries and should work on Windows, Linux and Mac. |
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It's not my toolchain. @slaminger got it from the manufacturer. But still, that does sound like a good idea. |
sure, go ahead |
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Hey, think we should maybe setup a discord server to discuss development and such outside of a single github issue thread? lol |
Haha, looks like most of us are here: https://discord.com/invite/p4uRmCd In #pocket-go-s30: https://discord.com/channels/529983248114122762/779295877951914005 |
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Can you link a server invite? I'm not in whatever server that channel is in. |
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Ah, you updated your post, thanks! |
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@bkacjios , @slaminger Do you know anything about the left channel audio only issue and whether it is hardware or can be addressed via software? It would sure suck if it was literally wired this way.... https://github.com/retrogamecorps/Simple30/issues/2
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Here are some DSP filters you can add to your SD card. One of them is mono audio. You can enable them in |
Tested, and the audio is still left channel only. (FYI, this audio issue occurs even on the stock SD card and OS that ships with the S30) |
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They seem to be working for me. Setting it to wahwah is a really good DSP to use to make sure DSP is functioning. I also tested it in Pokemon Fire Red by setting the DSP to mono and changing the in-game audio setting back and forth between stereo and mono, and the audio was always mono. |
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Hmmm ok, after another attempt and a reboot of the device, I can get the mono.dsp to work in game. I appreciate the help! So......does that mean this device is not only incapable of stereo output through the headphone jack, but also that it was wired up in such a way that it requires a damn plugin in RetroArch to get proper mono sound? ...smh |
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Bittboy just sent me this file, which they said will allow your previously-saved sound settings to persist between shutdowns. I'll ask them if they know anything about the left channel audio issue. |
I wasted a lot of time thinking adb was not working, until realizing that it was the linux driver getting mixed up with adb. I finally got adb working, and it's much easier (tried to get UART working but all I got was pseudo random characters). I managed to get OpenBOR and other tools, but of course it's a pain to have to rotate the screen individually. It would be much better to do it at the SDL2 level like the OGA. I also got ES compiled, but of course it breaks due to the strange SDL2 library. Did you notice the pandora driver embedded on the SDL2? I know you reversed engineered their SDL library, but I saw that you created a dedicated pocketgo s30 video driver instead. |
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Yeah, I ran their SDL2 library through Ghidra and found that it uses the pandora driver. My SDL2 library used pandora as a base, but I just made its own dedicated driver for code organization, since it requires a quite hacky way to get input events working. Honestly, the device on a software level is an awkward and hacky mess. It's hard to do rotation at a SDL level since the system doesn't have any window manager at all and just renders directly with EGL, which doesn't support rotation of the framebuffer. I've pretty much stopped using the device since I got an rg351m, so I haven't really tried to hack it further in hopes someone more experienced with hardware hacking would do it. |
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Yes, the moment I saw the pandora driver references I thought this is a franken-device... I was assuming its a simple sunx4i-drm compatible with Mali400, but does not seem to be that straightforward. A potential lateral approach would be to go the Weston/wayland route and rotate the display that way. Getting KMSDRM would be ideal, but I don't think the display driver is compatible with libdrm. I've actually build a separate buildroot based on the same linker for ABI compatibility. All applications are compiled (Mupen, amiberry, openbor, etc.) but only a few work with proper video. Anyway, I'll keep tinkering and post updates here, our repo will be up once we stabilized buildroot. Thanks a lot for all your info, and enjoy that RG351m... (I may skip it and get a RGB10max... :)) |
Is it possible to add or create a Favorites list of games (or a Last Played), either per system or for the entire unit combined?
I find I am wading through a lot of titles to get to my preferred ones, but I would rather not have to pare down my collection to more easily access my most used games.
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