ASIAN MEMBERS ATTENTION: RAM meetings at Asian time

[zsluedem]

Benefit to RChain

In #833 , @Ottermagically(Jonathanks) and I have talked about the time for regular RAM meeting is really hard for Asian members to participate. So we are trying to do a regular meeting at Asian time, maybe twice a month.

The first meeting will hold at 04:00 UTC 20180717
Sydney +11, Beijing +8, Greece +3, Amsterdam +2, Lagos +1,
New York -4, Seattle -7

The zoom link is https://zoom.us/j/2522161381 now.

• Prepare agenda.

@lapin7 @allancto @makys @raob @ian-bloom @Jake-Gillberg @Ojimadu @kitblake @Tonyprisca13
@pmoorman @AyAyRon-P @dckc @Mervyn853

Do you guys know any active members from Asian like India, Vietnam, and Australia, Japan and Korea? Please tell them about this meeting.

Budget and Objective

Please make the issue SMART: Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Realistic, Timely.

Estimated Budget of Task: $[TBD]
Estimated Timeline Required to Complete the Task: [days/weeks]
How will we measure completion? [example: pull request merged]

See CONTRIBUTING.md for details on budget and reward process.

[AnonyAMousie]

Here's a proposed formal Mission Statement, Will:

Problem: Time zone differences make it very challenging for RChain Cooperative members from East Asia, SE Asia, South Asia and AU/NZ to actively participate in the regular RChain RAM (RChain Active Members) meeting.

Solution: @zsluedem and @ottermagically have decided to start an RChain Asia Active Member meeting (RAAM) to increase engagement of RChain members in this very important region with the RChain Cooperative and community.

Our mission and weekly goals will be:

1. to start discussing initiatives, contacts and concerns unique to Asian members of RChain, such as relevant news, regional conferences, meetups, and candidate platform-partners or strategic relationships in this region that might not have come to the attention of our US and EU based teams, etc.

And, to ensure continuity and alignment between RAAM and RAM:

2. to share, weekly, updates from the RAM meetings to the RAAM community; and
3. to share, weekly, updates from the RAAM meetings to the RAM community with minutes and participation by at least one designated RAAM member .

[pmoorman]

excellent idea!

Count me in as a RAAM from October/November onwards again. Btw, @zsluedem I think you're doing an excellent job bridging between Asia and the rest of the community. Great work!

[AnonyAMousie]

Great conversation in Discord the past few hours, @zsluedem ... I am going to think more and possibly refine our goals or create an additional issue.

[Viraculous]

@zsluedem and @ottermagically Is the RAAM going to be in English as well? What about members who are not may not have that English inclination? Is there a way to as well communicate with them?

[zsluedem]

The meeting is not only for Chinese members so it is going to be English as well.

[Viraculous]

@zsluedem great, I was only concerned about the localisation of the information for members not inclined to English language so that they can as well roll along with the community. How about Greg's debriefing, does it go well with the time zone in Asia?

[allancto]

@Viraculous good questions, @zsluedem @ottermagically good answers! Making this RAAM meeting on par with the current RAM but offset 12 hours will make attending one or both convenient for all of our members around the world. (may i propose the name RAM+12 or similar?)

I'm particularly heartened by @zsluedem's remark about common language, whether English or another, because it facilitates Cooperation rather than fragmentation despite a few potential challenges. Perhaps it's off in the future, but I look forward to simultaneous interpretation/translation or whatever it takes to make it convenient for all of our members to be able to collaborate worldwide and in real time.

Awesome @ottermagically @zsluedem. -@allancto

[zsluedem]

@Viraculous @allancto Actually @ottermagically and I want people from as many countries in Asia as possible so English is still the priority.That's the only way to communicate with each other well because there are all kinds of languages in Asia like Japanese, Chinese, Korean. I think there is no easy way to get rid of the language thing.

BTW, do you guys know any members from other countries in Asia like Japan ,Korea, India .etc?

[Mervyn853]

Count me in. Will be glad to jump on the weekly call whenever my schedule fits in. Would love to help grow the RChain Asian community.

[Viraculous]

@zsluedem says

@Viraculous @allancto Actually @ottermagically and I want people from as many countries in Asia as possible so English is still the priority.That's the only way to communicate with each other well because there are all kinds of languages in Asia like Japanese, Chinese, Korean. I think there is no easy way to get rid of the language thing.

I agree with you @zsluedem but am looking at it from a point of scalability. Great, English language is universal and largely spoken but more concerned about effective communication within the localities with less or no inclineation to English language. To start with, English language is ok but subsequently as the community and awareness about RChain grows, will it scale? If not, the need arises for a plan on the localisation of the information/conversations/hangouts to the language understood by the major locality. Its a step quick penetration into communities.

[dckc]

@justinc667 I hope you can get involved in this.

I tried to assign you, but you don't seem to be a collaborator. Ask @lapin7 about that.

[zsluedem]

@dckc What is the handle of @justinc667 in discord? Or email?
Can you make a small introduction of him?

[allancto]

@zsluedem @ottermagically the link above says zoom "not confirmed", should confirm it soon! Also please add to RChain calendar (as either RAAM or RAM+12!). Let me or @dckc know if you need any help with calendar or zoom. Thanks! -@allancto

[zsluedem]

@ottermagically @pmoorman @Mervyn853 @Viraculous @allancto @justinc667 @dckc
I have created an agenda doc for the meeting.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kH1RKMnM9jTkNy8T2AZyZqJj92i7D4dcjuu4Z0n_Yzk/edit?usp=sharing
Please add anything you want to discuss.

[pmoorman]

To support this great initiative I'll get out of bed at 6am (I'm in Amsterdam now).

I'll volunteer my Zoom room if it's of any help (https://zoom.us/j/3287944287).

As for the agenda, I would be really curious to hear an update from @ottermagically about his good works in Singapore, and maybe from @zsluedem to cover the status in China. I'd also like to discuss if there's anything people like myself can do to be more welcoming / inviting to especially the Chinese community, and invite collaboration between Chinese and non-Chinese members.

Those are just ideas, but maybe it helps in shaping the agenda.

@kitblake is in Tokyo. Maybe he can attend, too.

[allancto]

@ottermagically did i understand correctly that @traviagio is currently based in Singapore and may be interested? also the contributors to #776, including @ddayan and @jeremybeal11, following Cardano and asian based blockchains, would RAAM be of interest to you? @mrinalmanohar are you all developing contacts near this time zone, would you be interested in this meeting (midnight ny iiuc)?

[zsluedem]

The zoom link is updated. See you guys tomorrow.

[ddayan]

5am London time... I might have to catch up with some members after the meeting.

[AnonyAMousie]

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS THE NEW ZOOM URL SO THAT SESSION MAY BE MORE EASILY RECORDED AND SAVED TO YOUTUBE:

https://zoom.us/j/2522161381

@zsluedem please update in your OP at top, I do not have edit privileges.

[justinc667]

@zsluedem My tags online are KB667 {Justin}#8495 on discord which is short for kaboss667 elsewhere. I spent a semester abroad in Japan during my 4-year degree in Japanese Literature and Language. I will be in the meeting looking to branch out to communities abroach, specifically in Japan.

[allancto]

@ottermagically please accept your github invitation to collaborate, then you will have edit privileges. Any questions just DM me. Thanks!! -@allancto

[Viraculous]

Great @justinc667 @zsluedem @ottermagically

[zsluedem]

I am so glad we did it ~! I will write a summary about the meeting today from the doc and report it in the next RAM.

[Viraculous]

Great @zsluedem

[zsluedem]

Hello every one. We start a good meeting every week right now. @pmoorman and I suggest 3000$ budgets for the meeting this month. The budget reward includes #849 #861 .

In the next month , we are going proposed 1500$ each month on the Rchain Asia Weekly Debrief .

[Ojimadu]

@pmoorman @zsluedem What is the idea behind the $3000? Being that this is a subset of the regular RAM meeting and @deannald is suggesting a budget of $100-$150 for the RAM meeting and @dckc also is suggesting the same amount for the budget

cc: @deannald @dckc

[dckc]

That suggestion of mine was for a particular meeting which seemed to have little value because no progress was made on any of the actions recorded in the meeting. I'm not aware that it applies to this meeting.

[pmoorman]

My thinking was a significant budget for the first month, considering all the hustle and bustle to get this routine started (hence the $3000 vote), and then a fixed "per meeting" budget moving forward (much like you suggest).

I think RAAM should be considered as equal to the RAM meeting, just 12 hours apart.

[deannald]

I agree with @dckc and @pmoorman in that a fixed per meeting budget moving forward makes sense and should be commensurate with the amount of effort put into the meetings.

[dckc]

If you agree with me, then you're not arguing for a fixed budget :)

From what I have seen in RAM meetings, the quality of meetings varies significantly from meeting to meeting. I'm OK with budget commensurate with effort to the extent that putting effort into a meeting usually produces quality results. But it's the results that I'm really looking for.

I don't have much direct experience with the Asia meetings, but from what I hear, $3000 for the first month was earned.

[zsluedem]

@kitblake @pmoorman
I suggest 1500$ for the work we did this month.
50% for @zsluedem
20% for @cool007zqw
20% for @kitblake
10% for @pmoorman