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Better document project state #611
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Sounds good to me. I'd place And we should try to trigger @elbenfreund again to update the information on |
In my opinion, unless we have dozens such files, they can stay at root level, where they are most easily found. |
Ok, let's just stick to the root of the repo then. Thanks :-) I've also started writing some text, editing it in the first post. Feel free to comment or add text already, I'll put things in a pullrequest when it's more complete. |
That's quite a history rewriting. Here is a neutral text, to replace the whole paragraph: |
First off: since I have no interest in putting blame at anyone here, so I've updated the text to something more neutral. I liked the original text since it provided some background for the current state, with four somewhat reluctant maintainers that only have time available for basic maintenance, but we can probably get that point across elsewhere and keeping the history overview more neutral seems better. I used a few more words than you proposed and left out the links, since I don't care for adding links everywhere and like to be consistent with the rest of the history section.
However, that's not quite how I recall this. Looking back, on March 2nd, you left. The need for new maintainership was not discussed until a full week later on March 9th, with the new maintainers volunteering in followup posts. I'm not quite interested in discussing this any further, though. |
But still you argued, meddled with the text (which was already a diplomatic offer) and removed the links. I was about to continue outside @elbenfreund umbrella, So yes, mostly for this and for other reasons I don't care to discuss about either The following other members of the new team were involved They were all recipients of an answer to this private conversation, where I asked to
The only answer to this message was #574, more than 21 hours later. Let's hope this makes it clearer why your initial version was backwards. |
Thanks for sharing your view on this. I won't respond to it in detail, since I do not think that will bring us anywhere. AFAICS my current proposal for the "history" section does not contradict with your view on things, so I see no reason to change it further. If you disagree, feel free to point out specific things that you think are incorrect and I'll reconsider. |
I think it would be good to update the documentation in this repo, to better reflect the current maintainance status. In particular:
I'm wondering a bit on where to put this info. If possible, I'd like to keep the repository root as clean as possible (so I would also like to replace the current
AUTHORS
andMAINTAINERS
files). It would be simple to put all info in the README.Some of this could maybe go into a
CONTRIBUTING.md
file, which is also automatically linked by github (e.g. when creating a new issue). Github supports such a fileCONTRIBUTING.md
in the repo root, a.github
folder and thedocs
folder. As I said, I'd like to keep the root clean, and.github
is too hidden for reference docs, so I guess using adocs
folder makes sense. We could also add other files there (sinceCONTRIBUTING.md
should be targeted to contributors, but a lot of the above should live elsewhere).I'm thinking:
docs/CONTRIBUTING.md
with info for contributors. I think the info about development and testing that is currently inREADME.md
can also be moved here.docs/MAINTAINANCE.md
with info for maintainers.README.md
for everything else (project status, people and history).Any other thoughts?
Below some bits of text to include, TBD where exactly.
This repository is currently maintained by a couple of people. Since we cannot free up too much time, the focus will be on bugfixes and small improvements. Help is always welcome, we will try to prioritize handling any contributions (i.e. pull requests) that are submitted.
Project history
The hamster project has quite a long history. It was started in 2007 by Toms Bauģis and Patryk
Zawadzki, being called "hamster-applet", a gnome2-specific systray-oriented applet for time tracking. Version numbers followed Gnome versions (e.g. 2.91.3). After a while, the systray applet was replaced by a gnome-shell extension (separately developed at https://github.com/projecthamster/hamster-shell-extension). In 2012 the project was renamed to "Hamster time tracker" and the versioning reset to version 1.x.x. In 2013, the project became largely unmaintained, with some flares of development (mostly porting to gtk3, but this was never released).
In 2014, Markus Koller (@toupeira) took over maintainance of the project and finalized 2.0 release, but then development died down for a while again.
In 2016 Eric Goller (@elbenfreund ) took over the project and started on a complete rewrite of the codebase (see below), leaving the 2.x hamster unmaintained. Development of the rewrite proceeded with ups and downs, but died down again, unfinished, in 2017. Development of the Gnome shell extension continued, but also stopped in 2018.
In 2018, @ederag took over maintainance of the 2.x hamster version again, porting it to python3 and adding various improvements to make it usable again. Somewhere along the way (maybe even before 2.0) the name was simplified to just "Hamster", though "Hamster time tracker" was also used here or there. In 2020, a version 3.0 was released with some significant refactorings and updates of external dependencies. The Gnome shell extension remained without an official maintainer during this period, though a number of people still worked on the project and built on top of each other's forked repositories.
In 2020, shortly after 3.0 was released, maintainance of the 2.x hamster was taken over, spreading the responsibility over a team of four. On the shell extension front, there were more people interested in ongoing development, so a second maintainer team was formed for the shell extension (with some overlap between both teams).
And that is where we stand now.
Hamster rewrite
In 2016, @elbenfreund started a full rewrite of the hamster code (see for example this announcement. This rewrite consisted of a number of different repositories to improve the separation of concerns: hamster-lib, hamster-cli, hamster-gtk and hamster-dbus.
Over the years, development of this rewrite has flared up and died down several times. Currently, this has not yet resulted in a finished and completely usable application.
Until this rewrite is in a more complete state, the original code base (i.e. this repository) is still considered the current version recommended to be used.
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