Support Arduino ESP32 v3.0 based on ESP-IDF v5.1 #1225
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I've been trying this with following config: ; see https://docs.espressif.com/projects/arduino-esp32/en/latest/installing.html#how-to-update-to-the-latest-code
[env:arduino-latest]
platform = https://github.com/platformio/platform-espressif32.git
board = az-delivery-devkit-v4
framework = arduino
platform_packages =
framework-arduinoespressif32 @ https://github.com/espressif/arduino-esp32#masterbut the build fails with |
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See the updated comment #1225 (comment) |
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Adding Arduino 3.0.0 support is the only way to make the ESP32-C6 available for Arduino projects. |
@ivankravets Does this mean that Espressif has dropped any support? Looking in current Arduino 3.0.0 code (branch master) everything regarding Platformio support is there. |
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Hello all, I do work in Arduino Core ESP32 project as a Project Manager so I would like to clarify this from our Team point of view. Please take a look on this comment in original Pull request. We also update a warning note in our documentation which should be a bit confusing. To not duplicate what is written in original PR, we will be glad if PlatformIO supports our latest version and we are open to any contributions. @ivankravets Feel free to contact us any time directly, we will be happy to discuss this if you see any points we can do differently. Thanks |
@Jason2866 |
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@ivankravets I think a reason why many users use PIO is also to keep some of the arduinoesp32 APIs while having the possibility to modify the IDF SDK configuration (menuconfig) which is necessary in many cases and not possible in arduino, unless using the libbuilder (buggy and not convenient). Maybe it would be wise for PIO to directly use arduinoesp32 core as is, and just focus on allowing users to run arduinoesp32 core along with IDF to keep access to menuconfig. |
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I am concerned about the viability of this repo long-term as folks like @Jason2866 have started to roll their own and this repo not catching up I am currently using his https://github.com/tasmota/platform-espressif32/tree/Arduino/IDF5 branch and it works mostly great for me - even if I feel uneasy about relying on a private effort with unclear future - how do you see the longer-term perspective of your fork? This fork has diverged from this repo massively - not sure this can brought back here easily the other issue I have is the abysmal debugging experience esp32/pio/arduino compared to using straight IDF |
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@mhaberler i did the same yesterday and used https://github.com/tasmota/platform-espressif32/tree/Arduino/IDF5 But then when building it complained of missing SPIFFS, i added it manually from previous version (in components directory) but then i get a dependancy error with esp_partition.h, despite it is well present in "components". Did you met this issue too? |
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@0x0fe @mhaberler My fork has not the goal to be compatible to anything official. Since project Tasmota is always in first row for new stuff, and is active in contributing to espressif Arduino Core, there was the need to have the development version of Arduino Core available with Platformio. The needed changes for Arduino 3.0 in Platformio are not many. A small job for @valeros |
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@Jason2866 oh, i see, that explains the error with SPIFFS |
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alpha stage - fair enough. Now assume Core 3.0.0 gets released - does this have any bearing on the debugging situation? who has the ticket to make that work? I'm talking about openocd + gdb versions and matching debug configs which work - at least somewhat like Nordic Connect and Segger I admit I am slightly confused about players and the who-does-what-and-why-not - I might be barking up the wrong tree (or repo) for that matter |
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@mhaberler Does debugging work in espressif IDF env setup? If yes imho Platformio has the job for the devices which are currently supported with IDF 5.1. Not saying it will be easy to solve or it will be done soon. The debug issue for the C6 is known and there is an open issue. |
@0x0fe yes, same here `Failed to resolve component 'spiffs' |
you mean like command line/shell? yes, repeatably |
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@mhaberler It makes sense, well SPIFFS yo ucan add it manually from previous version but then you will get an error with esp_partition, and i am not sure where to re-enable the SPIFFS module and dependencies correctly. |
https://github.com/platformio/platform-espressif32 isn't a core itself. It's a software piece that makes the PlatformIO Build API work seamlessly with Espressif 32 products within the PlatformIO ecosystem. If you check the source code of this repository, you'll find other integrations, like ESP-IDF. If we support Zephyr/ESP32, it'll also be found here.
We do use it directly (https://registry.platformio.org/tools/platformio/framework-arduinoespressif32). There's no common ground between Arduino IDE and PlatformIO. The "arduino" in PlatformIO is just a framework. PlatformIO supports over 10+ different frameworks. The reason many developers see PlatformIO as a "replacement for Arduino IDE" is due to source code compatibility and advanced project management with lots of configuration and collaboration features based on PlatformIO's unique declarative principles. If you've tried another framework besides "arduino", you'd notice there's no difference in the configuration aspect. You and your team can focus on project development without wrestling with bootstrapping and collaboration issues. Lastly, for a VSCode-based solution with native ESP32/Arduino core support, I recommend the Arduino IDE for VSCode extension backed by Microsoft. It's similar to Arduino IDE 2.0 but uses VSCode as the editor. Both leverage "arduino-cli", so the build system and workflows are the same. |
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@ivankravets I see, glue logic layer. the totally different versioning between these platforms and the cores they implement is rather annoying, though. |
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@ivankravets make me understand what your recommendation means - are you saying: When I prefer to use VSCode, I should take the Microsoft Arduino extension for VSCode and drop Platformio? |
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@mhaberler, we value openness in our community and aim to give you the freedom to choose. If there's a newer version of the software not yet supported by PlatformIO, we won't hide it. The current supported version is Arduino Core v2.x for ESP32. Our collaboration with Espressif, including discussions about renewal, is ongoing. It's worth noting that we have @VojtechBartoska, a project manager from Espressif, in this thread. We're all working together to ensure you receive the best features and support. We'll keep everyone posted on any updates to ensure a smooth continuation of our services. |
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I can see there's a bit of political project stuff happening, but as an end-user, all I want to do is be able to use the latest Arduino framework. Consider this a vote of support for making that happen, however it needs to be. |
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PlatformIO is a commercial open-source project. In the past, it used to be a paid service before 2020, following a business-to-consumer (B2C) model. Unexpectedly, PlatformIO gained widespread popularity among millions of developers globally. Consequently, we shifted our strategy to make powerful tools for professional embedded development freely accessible to everyone. The active development and maintenance of PlatformIO, along with its infrastructure, are now supported by technology partners dedicated to delivering an excellent developer experience. Espressif was one such partner, and we appreciate their long-standing collaboration. Currently, Espressif has ceased support for new products in PlatformIO, but rest assured, we are committed to providing support for existing Espressif products integrated before this change, as per our technology licensing policy. Your projects won't face disruptions, and services will continue as usual. If there's significant interest from Espressif customers in PlatformIO, we'll reach out to Espressif and explore the possibility of continuing our collaboration. If you have any questions or need clarification, feel free to ask. We're here to provide all the answers you need. |
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ok, so Espressif jumped ship @ivankravets what does that mean for the subject topic - Arduino3? your wording would suggest to me "no new Espressif releases - be it Arduino or ESP-IDF, existing releases go on life support" are you saying this repo stops at ESP-IDF 5.1.1/Arduino2 until Espressif changes its mind ? |
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@mhaberler Looks like: as long there is not enough feedback from Platformio users wanting actual espressif framework support, there is no good position from Platformio side to argument why espressif should invest money having Platformio support. |
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Hey @igrr - nice one on the DevCon. Just curious what the official line is regarding PlatformIO now that Espressif DevCon is over.
https://www.youtube.com/live/XJX_aXgjkg4?t=18517s Does this mean it's likely espressif will engage in a contract with PlatformIO in the next twelve months (probably timed with mass production of P4 would make sense to ensure smooth uptake), or are Espressif planning on their customers relying on the existing platformio (bsp<v3) and community implementation (bsp>3) which adapts espressif/arduino-esp32? |
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@Hedda do you like pay cuts? How would you react if your boss came and told you that you won't be payed for the third part of your work, but you have to do it anyway? |
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@monte-monte |
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Have there been any further thoughts or developments on this since last year? The Arduino extension for VSCode which was offered as an alternative to PlatformIO is now itself deprecated and is no longer supported, so without further support for Espressif Arduino Core on PlatformIO there is no longer a path forward for Arduino ESP32 development within VSCode that I'm aware of. Although much improved of late, Arduino IDE still does not have the basics for version control or GitHub integration, not to mention the plethora of other useful extensions available on VSCode, so isn't currently a viable way forward for large collaborative projects. In light of this, is it possible for Espressif to review this decision? |
To anyone looking for interim solutions, here are two options for developing Arduino ESP32 outside Arduino IDE:
UPDATE: Pioarduino is good and I hope platformio will just merge it. ESP-IDF is more difficult to set up and manage, but AFAIK is the only official supported method outside Arduino IDE. |
@rileyvel can you please explain this in detail for pioarduino? The effort for pioarduino is equivalent to the effort of specifying an exact platform version, namely by changing the |
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@rileyvel There shouldn't really be any problems. If it is not due to the differences between Arduino 2.x and 3.x (see Migration Guide from 2.x to 3.0) please open a new issue in pioarduino. |
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Yes PLEASE add arduino 3.0 to platform io |
@sivar2311 I can confirm that the compilation problem no longer occurs with the latest pioarduino release. I stand corrected. |
Maybe you know what problems might occur if I just do this: platform = https://github.com/platformio/platform-espressif32.git
platform_packages =
framework-arduinoespressif32 @ https://github.com/espressif/arduino-esp32.git#3.0.5
framework-arduinoespressif32-libs @ https://github.com/espressif/esp32-arduino-lib-builder/releases/download/idf-release_v5.1/esp32-arduino-libs-idf-release_v5.1-33fbade6.zipHow does this differ from using Pioarduino? Thanks. |
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@Laxilef This adds the needed packages only. It depends on your use case if this is enough. |
In what cases is this not enough? This might be a dumb question, sorry :) |
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The supported MCUs from core 2.0.x will probably work as expected. All new ones will not. |
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@Laxilef So you can't use ESP32-C6 and ESP32-H2 |
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When using 2.x:
And also can't use ESP32-C2, ESP32-P4 |
Does this work? How did you determine which versions to use together? |
Yes, it works. Arduino libs from the repository espressif/esp32-arduino-lib-builder. The file name can be found in the package_esp32_index.json on the release page: |
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I've spent a few days trying to use the ESP-IDF extension in VScode. The extension works ok, I can get the included examples to compile, but trying to use the M5Unified library (for M5Stack hardware), which is IDF compatible but is a c++ component, is difficult. If I use the the ESP-IDF component registry version of M5Unified, it is 3 months old (v0.1.16) it has the deprecated ADC code, but does compile. It looks like the ADC stuff has been fixed in M5Unified release v0.1.17, but no matter how I try, I can't inlcude it and get it to compile. If I persevere for a few more days, maybe I could get it to work. But as a test run to see how life is with ESP-IDF, for a hobbyist it seems I have to invest too much time. This whole CMakeLists thing seems overly complex and brittle. Where to go from here if I want to keep using Espressif chips? |
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@patfelst : https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32 |
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I aggree. Esp IDF is so raw it can even chase professionals into madnass. |
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And for those who didn' know, you can also switch to the pioarduino vscode extension:
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thanks, I did try this a few weeks ago, and ran into some errors. I didn't invest much time to try and solve. I will revisit again. Today I've been on the Arduino IDE. Success with M5Unified latest release (v0.1.17) on an AtomS3. However FastLED was crashing (needs legacy RMT driver). But my point is, I don't think I can live with Arduino IDE, it's a very basic experience after being used to PIO, esp jumping into library code using "Go to Definiton" and having multiple tabs open etc etc. |
Wow I didnt know that |
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Wow fantastic, pioarduino is working for me now! It's amazing to be up-to-date with espressif-arduino in PIO. I hope it can continue. I'd like to thank the talented people who made this happen. |
Here's a snippet of one of my ksIotFrameworkLib based project: platform = https://github.com/pioarduino/platform-espressif32.git
board = esp32-s3-devkitc-1
framework = arduinoYou don't have to pin it to the specific version. |
and others
The ESP32 Core for Arduino 2.x is the most recent major version currently recommended for use with PlatformIO. The decision to discontinue support was made by the Espressif company, as indicated in their official statement: espressif/arduino-esp32#8606
If you're an Espressif user who relies on PlatformIO for your projects, kindly share your thoughts in the comments below and cast your vote on this matter. Once we gather enough interest from the Espressif community, we plan to reach out to the Espressif company and request a reconsideration of support for PlatformIO.
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