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Oscar Vermeulen has produced kits that offer a 3/4 scale model of traditional DEC hardware with software emulated on a Raspberry Pi: PiDP-10, PiDP-11, and the first, and still very popular PiDP-8/i. The joy of these kits is two-fold: experiencing old computer hardware and software architectures, and playing with the lights and switches of very-well emulated front panels. See: PiDP-8/I: RECREATING THE PDP-8/I
The PiDP-8/i looks like the old PDP-8/i with the major registers and major states on display.
SIMH doesn't emulate down to the Major States. It's an instruction-level emulation. Indeed, the first foundational principle reported at [About the Open SIMH project(https://opensimh.org/about/) says, but not cycle-accurate, simulation.
The PiDP-8/i software project has developed, tested and benchmarked a fork of the OPEN SIMH PDP-8 emulation that supports the major states. This is of value to the PiDP-8/i project because it means that the "SING STEP" button on the emulated PDP-8/i front panel actually works and steps through the Fetch/Defer/Execute Major States.
Benchmarking says that performance with emulation of Major States is half the performance of the instruction-level emulation.
We would really like to get out of the business of maintaining a fork of SIMH. But we recognize that there's a performance penalty, and the proposed change is a step down the road of "cycle-accurate simulation."
QUESTION: Might the PDP8 SIMH maintainers be willing to accept a pull request to add Major State support?
the output of "sim> SHOW VERSION" while running the simulator which is having the issue
PDP-8 simulator Open SIMH V4.1-0 Current
Simulator Framework Capabilities:
32b data
32b addresses
no Ethernet
Idle/Throttling support is available
Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
Asynchronous Clock support
FrontPanel API Version 12
Host Platform:
Compiler: GCC Apple LLVM 15.0.0 (clang-1500.1.0.2.5)
Simulator Compiled as C (Release Build) on May 19 2024 at 13:01:35
Build Tool: autosetup+gmake
Memory Access: Little Endian
Memory Pointer Size: 64 bits
Large File (>2GB) support
SDL Video support: No Video Support
No RegEx support for EXPECT commands
OS clock resolution: 1ms
Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
OS: Darwin Mac-mini.lan 22.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Mon Feb 19 19:43:13 PST 2024; root:xnu-8796.141.3.704.6~1/RELEASE_ARM64_T6020 arm64
Processor Name: Apple M2 Pro
tar tool: bsdtar 3.5.3 - libarchive 3.5.3 zlib/1.2.11 liblzma/5.0.5 bz2lib/1.0.8
curl tool: curl 8.5.0 (aarch64-apple-darwin22.6.0) libcurl/8.5.0 OpenSSL/3.2.1 zlib/1.3.1 brotli/1.1.0 zstd/1.5.5 libidn2/2.3.7 libpsl/0.21.2 (+libidn2/2.3.4) nghttp2/1.58.0
git commit id: ffe537a
git commit time: 2024-02-20T18:20:13-08:00
how you built the simulator or that you're using prebuilt binaries
the simulator configuration file (or commands) which were used when the problem occurred.
No problems encountered.
the expected behavior and the actual behavior
We propose internal changes to PDP8/pdp_8cpu.c to allow emulation of the Fetch/Defer/Execute major states which the PiDP-8/i hardware would be able to display,
and control through the SING STEP front panel switch.
you may also need to provide specific pointers to data files that may be necessary to demonstrate the problem
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered:
Context
Oscar Vermeulen has produced kits that offer a 3/4 scale model of traditional DEC hardware with software emulated on a Raspberry Pi: PiDP-10, PiDP-11, and the first, and still very popular PiDP-8/i. The joy of these kits is two-fold: experiencing old computer hardware and software architectures, and playing with the lights and switches of very-well emulated front panels. See: PiDP-8/I: RECREATING THE PDP-8/I
The PiDP-8/i looks like the old PDP-8/i with the major registers and major states on display.
SIMH doesn't emulate down to the Major States. It's an instruction-level emulation. Indeed, the first foundational principle reported at [About the Open SIMH project(https://opensimh.org/about/) says, but not cycle-accurate, simulation.
The PiDP-8/i software project has developed, tested and benchmarked a fork of the OPEN SIMH PDP-8 emulation that supports the major states. This is of value to the PiDP-8/i project because it means that the "SING STEP" button on the emulated PDP-8/i front panel actually works and steps through the Fetch/Defer/Execute Major States.
Benchmarking says that performance with emulation of Major States is half the performance of the instruction-level emulation.
We would really like to get out of the business of maintaining a fork of SIMH. But we recognize that there's a performance penalty, and the proposed change is a step down the road of "cycle-accurate simulation."
QUESTION: Might the PDP8 SIMH maintainers be willing to accept a pull request to add Major State support?
the output of "sim> SHOW VERSION" while running the simulator which is having the issue
PDP-8 simulator Open SIMH V4.1-0 Current
Simulator Framework Capabilities:
32b data
32b addresses
no Ethernet
Idle/Throttling support is available
Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support
RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support
Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue)
Asynchronous Clock support
FrontPanel API Version 12
Host Platform:
Compiler: GCC Apple LLVM 15.0.0 (clang-1500.1.0.2.5)
Simulator Compiled as C (Release Build) on May 19 2024 at 13:01:35
Build Tool: autosetup+gmake
Memory Access: Little Endian
Memory Pointer Size: 64 bits
Large File (>2GB) support
SDL Video support: No Video Support
No RegEx support for EXPECT commands
OS clock resolution: 1ms
Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms
OS: Darwin Mac-mini.lan 22.6.0 Darwin Kernel Version 22.6.0: Mon Feb 19 19:43:13 PST 2024; root:xnu-8796.141.3.704.6~1/RELEASE_ARM64_T6020 arm64
Processor Name: Apple M2 Pro
tar tool: bsdtar 3.5.3 - libarchive 3.5.3 zlib/1.2.11 liblzma/5.0.5 bz2lib/1.0.8
curl tool: curl 8.5.0 (aarch64-apple-darwin22.6.0) libcurl/8.5.0 OpenSSL/3.2.1 zlib/1.3.1 brotli/1.1.0 zstd/1.5.5 libidn2/2.3.7 libpsl/0.21.2 (+libidn2/2.3.4) nghttp2/1.58.0
git commit id: ffe537a
git commit time: 2024-02-20T18:20:13-08:00
how you built the simulator or that you're using prebuilt binaries
We successfully build from source cloned from https://github.com/open-simh/simh.git
the simulator configuration file (or commands) which were used when the problem occurred.
No problems encountered.
the expected behavior and the actual behavior
We propose internal changes to PDP8/pdp_8cpu.c to allow emulation of the Fetch/Defer/Execute major states which the PiDP-8/i hardware would be able to display,
and control through the SING STEP front panel switch.
you may also need to provide specific pointers to data files that may be necessary to demonstrate the problem
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: