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Mood vs verbFormMood #39

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valeq opened this issue Sep 23, 2023 · 4 comments · May be fixed by #40
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Mood vs verbFormMood #39

valeq opened this issue Sep 23, 2023 · 4 comments · May be fixed by #40

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@valeq
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valeq commented Sep 23, 2023

I found the distinction between "mood" (http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#mood") and "verbFormMood" (http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#VerbFormMood) unclear and confusing especially because the set of features associated with them do not coincide. The features available for "mood" are:

"subjunctive" (http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#subjunctive),
"indicative" (http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#indicative), and
"imperative" http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#imperative,

which are also typed for verbFormMood, whereas:

"infinitive" http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#infinitive"
"gerundive" http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#gerundive
"contidional" http://www.lexinfo.net/ontology/3.0/lexinfo#conditional

are only available with verbFormMood. Would it be possible, meaningful to also type the latter for "Mood" as well?

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jmccrae commented Sep 25, 2023

The definition for mood starts with "In TEI" so I guess this is just a legacy from the export from ISOcat. I would create a single property called mood that has the range and definition of verbFormMood

@valeq
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valeq commented Sep 25, 2023

I agree, this solution sounds reasonable and clearer to me.
Also, for some languages other values may be needed.
For instance, "supine" for (at least) Latin and italic languages.
See the old EAGLES recommendations https://home.uni-leipzig.de/burr/Verb/htm/LinkedDocuments/annotate.pdf , page 8. And https://ia904701.us.archive.org/9/items/grammarofoscanum00buckuoft/grammarofoscanum00buckuoft.pdf page 179.
Would you consider adding it to the vocabulary?

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valeq commented Oct 6, 2023

Thank you for making the updates.
I would also recommend to add "supine", which is needed for at least some languages and was also a legal value in the EAGLES guidelines mentioned earlier.

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jmccrae commented Oct 9, 2023

Thanks, I have updated the PR.

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