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For those who can't understand what the "deadline" is:
The "deadline" to update TMS will be January 2024 if you want to keep it available in the Chrome Web Store. When you migrate TMS from Manifest V2 to Manifest V3, some modifications will be required to make it Manifest V3 compliant. If you have made any progress toward migrating TMS from MV2 to MV3, post about it in issue #197. |
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Is the January 2024 deadline still a matter of concern for TMS users? |
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I don't think so anymore. Users will start using another extension and we will forget about TMS and TGS, at least that is what I believe by now. Certainly it was a nice, short adventure that gave - even if temporarily - new breath of life to an extension I loved and always used on Google Chrome. |
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Thanks for letting me know, Giovanni. |
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That's right :-( |
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What do people recommend in replacement for this extension? |
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Would recommend checking if the built in discarding / memory saver is enabled before installing another extension. Visit chrome://discards and get a sense of the how heavy the tabs are, and then adjust the memory saver in chrome://flags to make it more aggressive to your taste. |
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It's enabled in settings. I can't find anything that's very relevant to tweak under |
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So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish |
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Hey, Giovanni, can you get a price from somewhere like 5ver for this work, and we can have a whip around and see if we can cover it? I would have loved to have worked on this, but... ive had two new jobs since then, and both of them were "emergency repairing" an entire company product stack... What do you think? |
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I don't think a platform like Fiverr can meet the need to develop and maintain this extension. It takes a person (or a working team) who can take care of it, who can first make the transition to Manifest V3, and then progressively go in and close out the various bug reports/malfunctions, and finally introduce the new features that the community has been demanding. Not a “spot” job, but something lasting over time. |
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have you ever used fivr?
…On Mon, 2 Sept 2024, 16:54 Giovanni Francesco Solone, < ***@***.***> wrote:
I don't think a platform like Fiverr can meet the need to develop and
maintain this extension. It takes a person (or a working team) who can take
care of it, who can first make the transition to Manifest V3, and then
progressively go in and close out the various bug reports/malfunctions, and
finally introduce the new features that the community has been demanding.
Not a “spot” job, but something lasting over time.
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Yes (if you are referring to fiverr.com), at least a couple of times, in both cases with less than positive results. Maybe it was bad luck, maybe it's like I was telling you just above: you don't need a “just this once” developer / team, you need a reliable, long-term developer / team. |
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there are many long term organisations that is fiver as a front door
ok how about this, forget fiver, but consider the idea of paying.
I'd happily put 100 dollars in to have this work done.
can you put out to the community the idea? and we'll try and find a team to
do it? if you think the alternatives are as good, then nvm. I've got so
used to tgm it sits right in the center of my entire workflow
i think everybody trusts you, i know i do
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Yes (if you are referring to fiverr.com), at least a couple of times, in
both cases with less than positive results. Maybe it was bad luck, maybe
it's like I was telling you just above: you don't need a “just this once”
developer / team, you need a reliable, long-term developer / team.
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for quite a while, i thought that TMS is still important to me, having had tens of suspended tabs. (*) there are a few minor differences:
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OK lets discuss the differences in detail.
So I dont "minimise windows", at any one time, I have about 7 or 8 browser
profiles open (they change I have about 30 active browser profiles), on an
i3wm desktop. Each profile typically has 5 or so windows. This is how I
navigate my projects.
Because of this, stuff like... session management is taken care of by the
browser, which is great for me.
Being able to just suspend a tab is pretty central to my workflow.
I dont use "tab lookup", im not sure I know what it is. My tabs are
organised into windows, and into an order inside those windows, and then
the browser profiles are all on different desktops, so I can navigate
directly to some specific tab... within a couple of seconds. this is what I
mean by "integral to my process". I can give presentations live, using
muscle memory to move around my project landscape.
what else are the differences?
Be prepared to have your predictions come true
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for quite a while, i thought that TMS is still important to me, having had
tens of suspended tabs.
but then i followed gioxx' advice, and just tried the "auto tab discard"
extension on top of the built-in handling. and as it turns out, this is a
perfectly suitable replacement for TMS at this point in time (*). so to me
it seems rather pointless to invest into TMS, apart from the fact that we'd
be speaking of several thousand € for anything serious.
(*) there are a few minor differences:
- one can't really suspend the current tab. but that doesn't really
matter, because simply minimizing the window instead was sufficient in all
cases so far.
- there is even an upside: as discarded tabs keep their original url,
tab lookup, history, session management, etc. all work as intended.
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by "tab lookup" i mean entering parts of the title or url of an existing tab into the omnibox, which leads to an option to switch to that tab being offered. that's useless for the strictly organized "static" tabs, but quite helpful for "throw-away" windows that tend to pile up. on X11, switching to a different virtual desktop should be functionally equivalent to minimizing a window - it should unmap it. or so i thought ... kwin 5.27 clearly doesn't do that iff compositing is enabled. but i presume this isn't a problem with i3wm. |
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what an awesome answer.
ok well... I'm open to it, also up for helping pay.
I'm allergic to change with something so deep in my stack, but if everyone
reckons there's no need, then ok!
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by "tab lookup" i mean entering parts of the title or url of an existing
tab into the omnibox, which leads to an option to switch to that tab being
offered. that's useless for the strictly organized "static" tabs, but quite
helpful for "throw-away" windows that tend to pile up.
on X11, switching to a different virtual desktop should be functionally
equivalent to minimizing a window - it should unmap it. or so i thought ...
kwin 5.27 clearly doesn't do that iff compositing is enabled. but i presume
this isn't a problem with i3wm.
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how about you just try it? the transition is smooth in both directions. |
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because I'm working 14 hours a day on several projects that are all "due
yesterday", my brain is totally full
but yeah, I'll set something up on my new personal profile I'm transferring
a bit at a time into my new machine.
only live once xx ty
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how about you just try it? the transition is smooth in both directions.
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but the solution with tab discard I'm not sure i understand..i don't want
my tabs randomly leaving memory, i want them to stay there long term, apart
from... well exactly what tms does, filling in forms, etc, all that sane
stuff
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… because I'm working 14 hours a day on several projects that are all "due
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but yeah, I'll set something up on my new personal profile I'm
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can anyone advice the same extension for manifest v3? |
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❗ I cannot guarantee anything but, with a bit of patience and in the very early part of 2025, it is possible that we may be able to work together with Google to upgrade TMS to Manifest version 3, thus allowing it to survive and begin to take its first new steps (and get some fixes and improvements) leaving no user orphaned. |
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Wow, this is wonderful news. Unfortunately I lack the technical skills to meaningfully contribute but just wanted to point out that you'd make one long term user quite happy if support can be maintained. I hope it happens! |
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I wrote an article summarizing what might be the future of this add-on. Do you think you can help with its survival? Bring it on!
IT: https://gioxx.org/2022/10/18/the-marvellous-suspender-a-look-into-the-future/
EN: https://gioxx.org/2022/10/18/the-marvellous-suspender-a-look-into-the-future/#en-us
Thanks to all our users and contributors.
June 2024: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish
🇮🇹 https://go.gioxx.org/tms-thelastdance
🇺🇸 https://go.gioxx.org/tms-thelastdance#en-us
❗ Update 27/12/2024: #196 (comment)
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