rchainactivist071217.md

0:04Patrick: All right, yeah sure. 0:06 0:07my actions this week was 0:11more updating content on Social Media 0:14continuing giving a little bit of feedback on the 0:17branding decisions for red 0:21trying to get that desk post article through and 0:27Engaging more around the discussions of some sort of bounty program, but there seems to be a oh 0:34There's definitely that friction point of it. We always go back to the 0:39the approval process and when they exceed the $600 right now, so I have a 0:47spreadsheet 0:48That I created for for just like a simple experiment for content because it seems to be one of the most 0:55easiest thing to collaborate around 0:58So if we want as a community to like review those bounties. I put them in there for June 1:04then maybe we can submit a proposal and 1:07Get official, and I'll draft something up on 1:11on github like like that spectrum thing did that Kevin shared in I think is announcements? 1:19but maybe maybe they're going to occupy that wiki for 1:25The Casper Bounty program that greg wants to run. I don't know we'll see in the hangout 1:32But essentially that's most of my updates well the numbers by using any questions or anything else on it. Sorry 1:40No 1:43the 1:45side of it that I've been working on more is our sponsored 1:50tokens 1:53we now have 1:57Three Sponsors at least and 2:03we're looking to fund activities right now. 2:09We're working on the parity wallet enhancements for RCHAIN. 2:29And I've shown you that before basically what they have now I guess I'll show that quickly is 2:41Hello 2:48We have the Rhoc distribution which actually we have 3:00Jacob coming online to help manage 3:05along with the work studies 3:08Where we're currently working on 3:12Parity enhancements, and what that involves is 3:30using the Parity wallet as a dashboard with having you know 3:33I suggested to have onboarding steps here that the check go up as people on board 3:42as A 3:44account 3:46and we have accounts for 3:50the identity, 3:52development of Identity, we have a budget also for Rhoc activists and 4:03of course you know this will be the person's address book, so we 4:08send Rhocs easily among each other and 4:13will debug the applications that we use and 4:17looking at custom applications down the road and 4:21the contracts that we use and of course we can run the contracts from here. There's also 4:27We can also develop Ethereum contracts and deploy them. 4:39We have the status of our node we have this signer so the transactions can be signed. 4:45and we have what skill we didn't have with our dashboard. now in an account? 4:54in my account here 4:56we have 4:58verify here, and we do Sms or if you can do an Sms verification of a phone number and 5:06the email 5:07verification and 5:08We want to add to that 5:10postal 5:14verification where we 5:17Use an e-card service to send them a mail a card by email, which will have a code on it 5:23Which will correspond to their number? 5:27- 5:28Hey, Gary! Good to see you. 5:31Gary : Jim, Hello. I'm Late again as usual. Sorry to interrupt. Please Carry on. 5:32Jim: and possibly verifying other factors for KYC and MLM ... 5:54Patrick: This is nice, so this is this active, right now? 5:57Jim: This is just this is the plain Parity wallet okay, 6:03what we've been doing is downloading the source code and building it 6:10We've been having some issues 6:13so we're looking for more people willing to learn so we'll assist a management and up about this and 6:20put in 6:21Tickets or whatever to resolve issues that we have in using it and then know essentially modifying 6:28making the modifications that we want adding the things that we want to add to make it the 6:35dashboard for the RCHAIN community. 6:37And this work is currently going on in our Mattermost 6:45Test for Mattermost instances. There's a dashboard channel, then there's a channel and 6:54in the content channel where I started experimenting with 7:01decision support mechanisms that we can employ using Mattermost and 7:13You know establishing? 7:15in essence the teams to work on stuff and 7:19Mount activities and 7:22Working toward eventually using the social ledger 7:32integration that we're using the Diglife as a means of 7:40underpinning on the task reward system and 7:44managing the circle activities or the team activities involved in 7:50projects 7:53Which are demonstrating some of those capabilities before? They're dancing now 7:59Employing self management principles where the fabric of the organization is made with Peer-to-peer agreements 8:08Now there's no leader everyone's a leader 8:11They leave their own 8:12work and 8:14Just have peers their agreements with other people 8:20for the a lesson 8:31Patrick: Yeah, this is great work. Jim. I always you know I gotta get into Mattermost more 8:42I'm clicking and entering these chats now dashboard I see the content weaving 8:51This is exciting. (What Patrick is doing is pulling up the RCHAIN site on Mattermost) 9:12You're on mute 9:17Sorry, yeah 9:19Moving the Noob study group on Thursdays to two o'clock. 9:29I'm looking for ways to get more people who? 9:33Will want to be self-reliant will be able to install and run these things themselves to participate in this 9:41you know 9:45The issues that come up 9:55well, we need to find people that I would like to learn a little system administration and 10:00Want to learn about these tools and things we're doing and of course Parity is one of them 10:09Gary post the thing on Riac and 10:15I'm excited to try that too that can become part of a node for a member 10:22which would give us a a 10:25Decentralized Ledger basically a centralized database that we use 10:32in the interim before we have 10:38RCHAIN 10:44So I'm exciting about it, and Divvy is working on something similar. I'm hoping delightful 10:52Collaborate with us more I mean the social ledger is wonderful. That's coming out of there 10:57And I'm sure that we'll want to use it 11:01you 11:03know it's a 11:05still work-in-Progress, not ready 11:08but 11:10we can still follow the 11:13principles of the ideas without having the software 11:18And be ready for it 11:22That's my update. I guess. 11:27Patrick: Yeah, I agree, and that was a great update on. What's up Gary. What's up kit? Do you guys have any update? 11:38Gary: My only update is as far as the Transcript project I 11:44found a 11:45Very useful tool 11:48a tool that I was thinking about 11:51myself in my software 11:55one of the big parts of the Transcript 12:03a capability to edit 12:07Transcripts 12:09Somehow somewhat interactively well Youtube already provides that capability 12:17by turning on the community 12:21Development flag on the video the owner and the owner of the video has gone though 12:29So I guess we'll have to 12:32We'll have to 12:35Try it with some of our own videos first. I have played with 12:42editing videos that YouTube 12:45Offered up to me 12:48from communities that are looking for 12:52Help editing the captions on their videos 12:57But anyway, that's my update as far as the transcript project goes I 13:04Was under you know maybe this meeting or and perhaps other member meeting 13:13with you can 13:17Post them on sites. We control like divvy - the DIVVY Channel 13:29Or our own personal sites whatever 13:32Yes, we can we can experiment with it, and uh that would be a good 13:39Project for the noob class and also yes. I'm you've already 13:46advanced my understanding of Riac, but I I 13:54Agree that it's something we ought to look at I didn't know if it would fit into what we were doing or not 14:03So you know I I've been 14:06investigating a lot of alternatives for our 14:10distributed Database and 14:12You know clearly? 14:14Etherium is a back-end that we plan to use 14:17for some of our stuff and but no until we have Rchain it's not going to be sufficient and 14:27So the back end for our decentralized applications 14:37is 14:42clearly something that we need to 14:47accommodate in 14:50today with browser-based applications having a 14:56Riac back-end gives us a good environment for our decentralized applications 15:09and 15:12Yeah, what already our parity browser is largely 15:18browser-based registering against our own imperium node every node 15:27It makes it. You know. It's very nice 15:32No, one we need to save state Riac is a good way to do it. 15:49Patrick: Okay, Kit how about yourself any updates on the FAQ or or anything else. You don't like we have update from 15:58Kit: Yeah, let me turn on the AV here. I'm on my phone today 16:08Yeah, my my only update is the FAQ is 16:15Someone somewhat done, and I think will be good if other people looked at it 16:21in my 16:23personal opinion, it needs more polishing, but I have an answer to every question and I 16:32I'm not sure about what the next step is I could easily post a link to it in Slack which would 16:39bring lots of people to look at but I thought 16:42maybe 16:43We first 16:45Have a look at it ourselves and by ourselves. I mean the activists and 16:51I don't know. Maybe it should go to the board of directors or something or maybe later. What do you think? 17:00Patrick: first of all great job. Thanks 17:04yeah, what I would do is post it as 17:08A reply as that 17:11Like a follow up, and then one of the github issues. Sorry there's lawn mowers going off everywhere, but 17:17Yeah per say hey, I'm done and then 17:20we compose the link and the slack yes for feedback for sure and 17:26Then in order to quote-unquote finalize it official awesome like an email to some of the board of directors with it 17:33And if they agree that it 17:36it's in Publishable, then we'll post it as like on github or something like 17:45Kit: Okay, yeah, there's a bunch of details. Do that come dear. Did you hear that? Yeah? Yeah, that was clear for me 17:53There's a there's a bunch of details probably need reviewed like I'm not really 18:00familiar with the history of the Synereo split 18:04but I wrote something there just to have something and so maybe somebody that has 18:12Lifted and that experience wants to adjust or something 18:18But yeah, all of our first play. Yeah yet 18:27It is missing a google document, or I'm github 18:31Yes, um it's linked on github in issue 6 t 18:38The Google document. Yes, okay, and if anybody can comment 18:46Yeah, anybody can 18:48yeah, anybody can edit in fact if you read it and you think of a new question or something just 18:55add it right in 19:00but all I'll post a message in this issue, and it resurrected this an 19:08area some way 19:14There that again 19:20sorry, I'm kind of in and out Iii, miss what she said ahead oh, I'll 19:27Post a message in github and then I'll wait a day, and then I'll post a message in slacks. Oh 19:37That's that's a great idea. Thanks good 19:41Okay, then I'll do that 19:45soon like today 19:51Perfect. Yeah, so HJ is not here to give operational updates . Are we the only ones? Yeah, that's for 19:58is 20:00There any other things you guys like to talk about 20:03Or we just cut a snap this time and see you guys in 30 minutes. I'm 20:09interested in 20:12Anyone's thoughts on Greg's 20:19AI 20:20Bots that he's going to use to test the consensus algorithm what? 20:26Do we think? 20:29do you expect him to address that today and 20:33What sort of input should? 20:35we 20:36provide 20:39As we go in regards to that AI bots chess-playing AI bots 20:47Zhenia anyone have any thoughts on that I 20:50Sure, hope definitely bring that up in the hangout today 20:54But right here. I have the message pulled up from July 10th. I'm interested in discussing with the community the idea of beginning to organize 21:02Bounties around building this test framework as soon as the Rholang Casper contracts are committed to Github. 21:10So what he's going to be looking for. 21:13Looking for is 21:16is 21:19organizing bounties for this test framework so that 21:22that can either be tied into the larger bounty discussion or that will probably be handled by the DEv team but 21:30That's probably where the inputs going to be most 21:33Valued is it's how to filled out this test frame 1 21:36What it seems interested in me I don't know enough about like the details 21:39But I read through everything and it's pretty cool the chest in the go game has content is very interesting 21:47Yes, one thought I had when I was thinking about it was I 21:53It seems like to me that checkers would have been a easier 21:58game to a 22:00model but 22:02Again, I I'm willing to go with his 22:05with his 22:07ideas on it because 22:09well 22:23I don't even know that that gang go. I don't know the rules on that. So that wasn't very interesting to me 22:34But it sounds like I excuse me neither do I but all I know about it's like oh 22:44Patrick you went on mute, but 22:48Yeah, what what I'm interested in is that Greg has expressed? 22:59Interest in artificial intelligence and that an 23:04Artificial intelligence the agent would be would be one of the first 23:12Projects he would suggest for the community 23:18and I as 23:20I look back on a lot of the papers in 23:26this Space I 23:31to see a similar threat of interests and artificial intelligence 23:36that is the the papers that are relevant to what we're doing here, but for the 23:43blockchain 23:46Satoshi's invention 23:49That maybe getting to depth too deep for any sort of comment, but anyway, I'll shut up now 24:00I'm united so invite any member that does a great 24:12if Patrick's coming in and out there to 24:17When I sort of see this as now deep learning allow 24:23could because scientists protocols so that 24:31all of the strategies have been why 24:37Now a game on top is sort of like you saying the platform doesn't matter the I 24:47Guess I presume the you was to get something that was chaotic and not generally 24:55have a 24:57Gherkin Flattened Tee and 25:06those strategies are sort of a 25:11stochastic method of 25:14looking for analogous strategies 25:18in the consensus protocol 25:41Jim you're on mute. I see Patrick has no audio 25:48Having trouble alright, Jake 25:53Is here then you? 25:59Okay, we get your update 26:03Um not too much new for me here. I was out last week 26:07I 26:08was trying to scroll through a little bit of the you port documentation today and 26:13See what they have going on for identity solutions there. It looks like they have a lot of stuff 26:18That would be really useful. It's in the pipeline 26:21But yeah, I don't really know 26:23How far they are at in terms of some of that stuff? 26:27Yeah, we you saw where the swiss government is issuing you deport identity so all the citizens 26:34Yeah, Mm-Hmm. Pretty neat pretty awesome um 26:39now parody has 26:44Mentioned plans to incorporate you for it. I don't know if you've seen any of these stuff on the 26:54I'm using parody as a dashboard 26:58for 27:00the activists you know um 27:03Yeah, and I've been I've been a little confused about that because parody is like an assyrian client, right? 27:09Right so what does it mean to be an Arcane dashboard well? 27:17essentially we were a rock face community which is a 27:27aetherium Token and 27:32There's features that we can use of like 27:36verifying Sms and email 27:39notification which attach to 27:42A theory of identity okay? 27:49We have we onboard in here when they sign up they think they get some rocks is 27:58They create an account. We have budgets now. I will this before 4 28:07Lakhs and Identity 28:11People have their address books and we contact each other 28:16We have the applications that we use 28:18Unclear iam and you can put our own other applications on the minions here just about modify 28:25modify the screens 28:27the etherium contracts we use 28:31Ok we can develop it as a developer 28:35interface for developing contracts and deploying contracts 28:41Say this summer no 28:45And the settings of what we choose to happen on top menu 28:52so the idea is that so 28:56teller this would 28:58Be tailoring the spool Dr. Chain Community and 29:03as A 29:08An onboarding tool and supporting the community 29:19but that's no one what we're working on in the work studies and 29:29Sorry to repeat that grown people 29:32Yeah, I thought so I'm Magic I 29:35Mean yeah that's interesting. That's cool. I think that 29:40You know we should make sure that any solution. We're not building it just for parody I think 29:45you know a lot of 29:47Web distributed applications will work. Just fine and like the mist browser as well 29:53Which I think that that's what that screen 29:55You're showing was with all that in those apps 29:57And there you know there's similar ways in in myths to link your identity and any other 30:03client 30:05even if it is like a light client that someone might want to use or 30:10Connecting to it Via normal browser without a full node set up like meta masks or something like that. I think 30:16Yeah, we should keep those sorts of solutions in mind as well 30:22Yeah, I know. I think that 30:25There's really no dependency on it. It's just a matter of convenience 30:30Sure, right yeah 30:36You know it's kind of like you know these days, right parity and mist 30:40They're sort of like chrome or firefox right you should be building a site that's compatible with all of them 30:47Well yeah, all right. Maybe I'm wrong but I mean this is sort of like a home for browser-based 30:54applications 30:59you know I like it run it running in the browser, but uh 31:09Yeah, yeah 31:10right so - tick tick 31:1130 is a browser right or at least you're using it as a browser and a wallet app sort of combined 31:16You know I've never you know it was he 31:20Actually runs in the browser 31:29And it's accessing parity on your local machine, right? 31:40but yeah, yeah, that's not the way that it has to work right so any sort of 31:45Decentralized site that you create that has the ability to like accept payments and sign transactions and stuff 31:51that can be served and integrated with 31:55Things besides just parity can be integrated with meta masks where you don't actually have to install a third-Party program 32:01Let's sort of they take care of the the node 32:04Behind that in the wallet behind that for you 32:07There's there some solutions that I think might be a little bit easier for users who aren't as technically inclined 32:18You know I agree with you that you know it meta managed is kind of cool know that it works in the browser totally 32:28But in terms of installing parity. I mean, it's basically a one button install. It's not like it's 32:35It takes any you know technical children do it and I'm happy in each of of lighting your own nose 32:46Yes, I mean some people would say that taking up bandwidth sin that much disk space and gigabytes of disk spaces 32:54inhibitive 32:58Is interesting you know I would see that this picture loves face, but check that it 33:05It doesn't keep a copy of the blockchain. It doesn't okay? 33:24So what the status of that is so? 33:29at the moment is that 33:33the 33:40the Shell scripts 33:42that it downloads are 33:47Have returned characters in them 33:51and so when I 33:54try to run them 34:05That's what we did before 34:07Fargo, it's behaving differently now 34:10well, you know essentially oh, yeah the source code and we're 34:15looking to 34:18add modifications to it and about the contract for 34:24postal address verification 34:38and Jake we have a 34:42Identity working group. Which is trying to make progress on this and it meets on Saturdays 34:51at 34:5311 o'clock New York time 34:57so if you're interested you could join actually this zoom meeting and 35:06participate further 35:10Okay, great. Yeah. I'm not sure that I will be able to make that 35:15unfortunately 35:17okay, we publish notes and a 35:22recording is 35:23if you want to catch up 35:26Okay, that'd be nice 35:29we're where those published ah 35:34In a google Doc right now actually we have a log of all the meetings 35:40okay, and the link to the log is 35:46entered periodically in the new 35:50program group Channel, okay 35:56and we've also last time we 36:00We published the notes right in in the sloth identity channel just to save a click ah got it 36:08So you can see the notes from the last one last Saturday, okay great. Yeah, I see that 36:28well actually 36:31Let me turn on my video again. There's there's one little point 36:35I do just post it in both matter most in slack. Which is I wonder if anybody has the knowledge to create a 36:42Slack bot or a matter most pot 36:46Where whenever we get a new user we can? 36:50Yeah, maybe wait a few minutes and then send them a little message that might contain links to useful stuff or something 36:59so that's posted in Co-op on the slack and 37:06general on Matter Most and 37:09I'm pretty sure it's possible. We just need someone who wants to 37:14Yeah, dig into the AI or something 37:18But this this kind of connects to that 37:21That nail that HJ 37:24Sent around I don't know a week and a half ago. It's a possible 37:28welcome message for new activist members 37:32Whereas the the bots in the discussion Channel would 37:37Basically say hi to any number 37:43So give it some thoughts 37:53That welcome bak could easily be tied to Gregg's 37:59chess-playing a I bought 38:02as far as the project goes 38:07Okay, that could become a very intelligent welcome bot, but yeah 38:24It would be great if you could ask questions to the bottom and get intelligent answers back 38:34it would be easy for the bot to 38:38Give the answers provided in the Faq 38:50We could chime in see certain certain key phrases or something key questions. Yeah 39:02That's nice 39:09Jim I had a question for you on that Ria react 39:16Do you did you understand what he meant when he said in the video that? 39:25distribution was built into erlang 39:30but 39:31Then later. He said you wouldn't use this protocol 39:35For a wide area network did that make any sense to you? 39:51It makes sense in that 40:03You know if you're running 40:06react 40:07in order to get a 40:10Very responsive system. Oh oh 40:14You don't want to extend the network Beyond where you need it? 40:20So you know you wouldn't make a monolithic react database for everything on the internet. I think that's what he was saying 40:35But that but that statement didn't diminish your estimation of react 40:45Well, I mean it makes me think about the limits 40:51But you know the fact is is that it's a very fast 40:59Virtual machine will only be centralized 41:05database 41:08Okay, so you know 41:12You have a cloud okay? And no, I think of it more as a vPN 41:24where 41:29We have a shared database with a limited number of people 41:38But potentially a large number of people 41:44So I would take meant it. No. I mean there is a segmenting 41:49Where there isn't decides that they could use a separate database for separate things oh? 41:59Okay, I see where you're going with this okay? Hey guys this is dummy. Sorry. I'm late today. You know I got 42:08engaged with the other meeting 42:11Here so sorry about that 42:16Welcome 42:20Yeah, you guys continue. I will you know jump in as so. I think you guys already know that right Sj 42:26Has gone on vacation to parallel? 42:32So right okay? Yeah, that's very nice 42:41So we've all given an update you have an update movie 42:47Yeah, sure um let me pull up my register other day. What are you talking about? 42:57So from a marketing campaign pointing getting Patrick is already doing something 43:02so I think what we talked last time that I'm going to talk to Patrick's about sort of 43:08You know what we can do from an activist point of view and I think 43:14Jim really get a chance to talk to ian about the license and hosting I think matter most is already working, right? 43:18So I'm not sure how much actively participating 43:23participation going on at this moment 43:26um you know the licensing matter most is part of it is under the 43:36mig 43:38put 43:40Fidelity it's a compiled code license. All right so that the pay for features 43:48are 43:51coming to pile on but 43:53The free version is always free 43:59So you know there is you know I didn't as a consideration there. I think that 44:07the potential of 44:11working with Nana most and 44:15cooperating with them 44:17Outweighs you know that the their economic model, so to speak 44:27we certainly can use it for free and 44:31There's a possibility of a cooperative lead with them doing 44:39Extending the capabilities of matter most right? 44:43So I think when I think so probably, I'm just speculating 44:45I'm not sure if Greg is going to talk about the bounty program because of another you know message 44:51I saw he mentioned that this testing framework. He wants to use or casper 44:58so my smaw my take is that might on you know a bunch of 45:04You know community-driven? 45:08Bounty sort of 45:10Programs, and I don't think I know how it's gonna work out, but I think we can figure it out 45:16You know how that can be leveraged for the community purpose basically? 45:23You know engaging more community members and spreading it out? 45:29I think we already talked about it right so how to verify I think a verify one and very fire to find nothing 45:36two-step process to verify any committee 45:39Work being done or something like that basically some checks and balances right yeah kids kids 45:45Complete some work on 45:48the fact and it's 45:50Overlooking the evaluation now 45:59We haven't 46:02bad 46:04Yeah 46:07The github issue, I just sent out a message. So anybody who's subscribed to that? 46:13should 46:15Get an invitation to have a look at the fact and do some editing so that went out seconds ago 46:24So you know what issue here is know, how we? 46:28Proceed with this in terms of getting it 46:32To the point of the public setting Patrick is going to take care of that 46:37with the board of directors I guess once we 46:41all I've had a chance to comment, or asked up, whatever and 46:47You know there's a question of how we reward people they're working on this thing I 46:52Think that you know we should be providing some rocks for these kinds of activities 46:58now 47:00in principle just to help get more rocks out from using and 47:08You know some of us are sponsoring rocks for this purpose, right? 47:15So from the co-op point of view what I see. You know things are a little slow at this moment, right? 47:19I mean, I don't think we have an organization around coops 47:23Efficiently, I mean, there's no efficient organization around co-Op at this moment, right? 47:29and 47:30I think as time progress most likely you know a 47:34Proper organization will come out of it. I think Sj 47:37May have a little more leeway how to lead some of the work from a community point of view right? I mean Jim 47:45I appreciate that you know so far you have been 47:48Sponsoring some of those kind of things and definitely I seek down the road. We would need more engagement from Co-Op also 47:57And more involvement engagement mean more not only financial in English involvement actually is some sort of leadership 48:05leadership engagement also 48:08Because you know coming from co-op and you know with some align goal would be the best way move forward I 48:16mean at this moment what we are doing is sort of 48:21you know 48:24Just finding something so that at least you know we keep moving and keep progressing on on this front, right? 48:34and 48:36You know apart from that I am I think I don't have much update and I think that 48:42Article I think the ad already provided the feedback right on the scalability 48:47Article, I don't know after that there was any update from client eater or not or there's no new what an article? 48:55Was sent out? 48:57You guys have any visibility into that 49:01Well, I think it's sort of on hold. I mean it may be it may be 49:07There has been feedback, and there may be revisions, but it may not be 49:15A 49:16time-sensitive thing at this point 49:19Yeah, I mean, I think that can be pigeon in multiple ways. I mean of course after the feedback a 49:24Independent person writing that article versus a person affiliate with the are chain writing an article, right? 49:31and 49:32probably I 49:34think 49:36Let's see you know. I will I will see if I can talk to Patrick. You know, I think we need to 49:42stage these kind of steps in a way, you know putting up articles and every week or every other week kind of thing and 49:50Start slowly creating a buzz, but the biggest hurdle 49:53For us at this moment. There is no ability when the platform would be ready, right? 49:59I mean we have been I 50:01think the 50:04Optimist 50:07The timeline is six months from now. I think whatever we call from some of the hangout side, what greg mentioned 50:13If you based on that when we start putting up you know these kind of articles in in 50:19Medium or everywhere. I think would be helpful for us 50:23overall 50:24What do you guys think? 50:27Yeah, I 50:29Think it would be good. You know we are running a test in maramures now where we're trying to do these content discussion 50:36critical update the content creation process and 50:41delivery 50:43It leverage 50:45Opportunity please join the content templar you've probably been join two times. I'm already in there. I'm uh 50:51N-Octane actually 50:54Awesome. Yeah 50:58So what we can do we can create some you know content what you call 51:03categories, right 51:05So at this moment, I think 51:08The way I see a lot of people focus on on the platform only 51:13I think if we can have some use case for some d apps and write about the d apps would be a good idea like 51:19Scalability is completely 51:21Platform centric 51:24and 51:26Another is the you know Ecosystem Centric Ecosystem would definitely 51:31Involve all the D apps 51:37Yeah, it's one of the games in 51:42the dashboard development is to bring in other be centralized components and 51:51Sort of create a 51:56an R chain members node which might have the 52:03react database and parity and maybe sup, we 52:11with solid 52:14Mit solid component 52:18or 52:21decentralized applications 52:23And it's time to drop meeting could design a plane the year and the other meeting 52:29Okay, yeah hang out see ya back