Introducing images based on opensuse?

[Itxaka]

Hi!

Was wondering if there would be any issues on creating opensuse based images for rabbit.

Im willing to work on this but before starting I wanted to know if they would be accepted to live alongside the ubuntu/alpine as to not make the effort of creating them to be rejected afterwards :)

Thanks!

[michaelklishin]

@Itxaka the question with every new image type is primarily "who is going to maintain it going forward". Doing the work once is not too time consuming. Doing it over the course of a few years can be much more of a commitment.

I definitely like how much better things are on OpenSUSE now compared to, say, 12 months ago so I 👍 this but the question remains: who is going to maintain this new image? I have a feeling most maintainers and users of this image use Debian and Ubuntu

[Itxaka]

That is indeed true @michaelklishin usually the front work of creating something its the easiest work, maintaining it afterwards is where the pain comes from ;)

This would be part of creating all of the openstack needed images based of opensuse, so it will be consumed by SUSE customers deploying openstack in kubernetes clusters, meaning that it will have an userbase and we (SUSE) should be the ones maintaining it.

Knowing that this is possible, let me move this internally to see if there is an internal commitment to this for years to come.

Thanks for the quick response! 👍

[tianon]

I think docker-library/official-images#5371 is also relevant here.

[michaelklishin]

@tianon is there a policy that would prevent this image or one of its variants on being based on a community OS image such as opensuse/tumbleweed?

[tianon]

Right, for it to be part of the https://hub.docker.com/_/rabbitmq image, it has to be FROM some other image in the program (https://github.com/docker-library/official-images#repeatability).

[Itxaka]

I think docker-library/official-images#5371 is also relevant here.

Im not sure how that would affect this, if I send a PR for an opensuse rabbitmq image it will be based of the official one opensuse/leap:15 for example, so there should be no issue there :)

[michaelklishin]

If the plan is for SUSE folks to maintain their own image based on this one how can we possibly object? :)

[yosifkit]

If the plan is for SUSE folks to maintain their own image based on this one how can we possibly object? :)

I have no objection to them having their own image; that is in the spirit of open source. 😺

Given docker-library/official-images#5371 and "No official images can be derived from, or depend on, non-official images"*, I would not be comfortable adding an opensuse variant of rabbitmq in the Official-Images. It would be better to live under the opensuse org, like https://hub.docker.com/r/opensuse/rabbitmq.

* to be clear, "official" in this context means part of Docker's Official Image program, not to be confused with "Docker images provided by the software creators"

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Similar issue on docker-library/python#61 (comment), especially this part with a swap of python for rabbitmq: "For most users, just having "[rabbitmq]" at a specific version fulfills all their requirements. They don't need to care about the underlying distribution it is running within."

[michaelklishin]

Sounds like we have a consensus and the constraints are well understood and articulated. @Itxaka is there anything that prevents us from considering this resolved and OpenSUSE folks from starting their own image based on this one?

[Itxaka]

@michaelklishin yep, that is great and everything understood!

Thank you all for your time and effort, I will close this!