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Embedded clauses in noun phrases #3

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jonathanrobie opened this issue Jun 12, 2017 · 3 comments
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Embedded clauses in noun phrases #3

jonathanrobie opened this issue Jun 12, 2017 · 3 comments

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@jonathanrobie
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Embedded clauses regularly occur in noun phrases. I propose to handle them using embedded clauses, as follows:

    s πολλοὶ 
    v ἐπεχείρησαν 
    o
        v.inf ἀνατάξασθαι 
        o διήγησιν 
        + περὶ 
            τῶν 
            + v πεπληροφορημένων  (: Embedded clause - using adjunct :)
              + ἐν ἡμῖν  
            πραγμάτων, 

Is this acceptable?

@jtauber
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jtauber commented Jun 12, 2017

is it correct to say that an initial analysis might not even analyse the prep phrase?

e.g. you might start with

    s πολλοὶ 
    v ἐπεχείρησαν 
    o
        v.inf ἀνατάξασθαι 
        o διήγησιν 
        + περὶ τῶν πεπληροφορημένων ἐν ἡμῖν πραγμάτων,

and then only, in a second pass refine it as

    s πολλοὶ 
    v ἐπεχείρησαν 
    o
        v.inf ἀνατάξασθαι 
        o διήγησιν 
        + περὶ 
            τῶν 
            + v πεπληροφορημένων  (: Embedded clause - using adjunct :)
              + ἐν ἡμῖν  
            πραγμάτων, 

In fact, would the following also be an acceptable first pass?

    s πολλοὶ 
    v ἐπεχείρησαν 
    o ἀνατάξασθαι διήγησιν περὶ τῶν πεπληροφορημένων ἐν ἡμῖν πραγμάτων,

@jonathanrobie
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Sure. In fact, my first pass for a sentence like this is often something that distinguishes adverbial adjuncts from the main verb and not much more:

+ Ἐπειδήπερ πολλοὶ ἐπεχείρησαν ἀνατάξασθαι διήγησιν περὶ τῶν πεπληροφορημένων ἐν ἡμῖν πραγμάτων, 
+ καθὼς παρέδοσαν ἡμῖν οἱ ἀπ’ ἀρχῆς αὐτόπται καὶ ὑπηρέται γενόμενοι τοῦ λόγου, 
v ἔδοξε 
io κἀμοὶ 
+ παρηκολουθηκότι ἄνωθεν πᾶσιν ἀκριβῶς 
o καθεξῆς σοι γράψαι, κράτιστε Θεόφιλε, 
+ ἵνα ἐπιγνῷς περὶ ὧν κατηχήθης λόγων τὴν ἀσφάλειαν.

Your "second pass" is also acceptable at that level of granularity. I think it is important and useful to support multiple levels of granularity in analysis. But on a given project, e.g. our markdown of the GNT, we should probably have standards for the final analysis.

@rkjtan
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rkjtan commented Jun 16, 2017

I agree that all 3 levels of granularity above are acceptable & should be supported.

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