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One concern raised by @ben in the past is that this would make delve content much less discoverable... and we'd probably end up fielding a lot of questions about it, haha.
however! v11 is making several improvements to dependency management. among them are a "recommended packages" field in the system manifest. to my knowledge this is telegraphed in the setup screen, too.
Potential benefits
follow the broader FVTT ecosystem by having core content living in the system package while supplements live in modules. a sensible convention, IMO
less clutter for people who don't give a gosh darn about Delve stuff
a module could be system agnostic, so people using the Delve framework for running dungeon crawls in other systems can get in on the fun!
a tight, focused package may make it easier for other folks (particular first-timers) to build their own modules on top of it
Challenges
how would migration work for foundry-ironsworn worlds with existing delve content?
migrateData is a reasonable start
i'm thinking an alert dialog with something like: "Delve functionality is now handled by XXX. Your Delve content is preserved, but you'll need to install the module to use them."
could an overlap period make this a bit gentler?
does v11 introduce any new package features that could help us out? for example, being able to flag a package update as having breaking changes, so people have a bit of warning?
there's a bunch of other delve-specific optional rules and such. which package do those go in?
or... do i split the package even further? for example:
delve: basic, system-agnostic "engine"
actor: delve site
item: delve site theme
item: delve site domain
denizen matrix functionality -- cleanest way to do this is to allow it to handle any sort of actor. i can probably lean on document rolltable links for this
oracles? hard to avoid including at least some of them.
oracle presets/helpers/generators (monstrosities, delve site names, etc)
progress tracks? is that a thing people do when using it for other systems? 🤔
should... should progress tracks be their own module? oh god, what have i done
ironsworn-delve: depends on foundry-ironsworn, delve.
delve moves
delve encounters
optional delve rules: threats, failure track?
uses existing vue sheet since foundry-ironsworn is in the picture
With a system-agnostic module
i'll have to write some non-vue sheet templates; i'd probably keep those simple, and let foundry-ironsworn simply override them with its fancier vue sheets
how deep do i want to go with the rules implementation? like, what's the "cutoff point" where i say, "nah, i'll leave this to foundry-ironsworn"?
i should prob research this by talking to ppl who've used delve with other system
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Huh, so as it turns out: items/actors are still system-specific, just not in a way that creates a module dependency:
fair enough. so, a system-agnostic delve module could still be reasonably expected to provide ironsworn-specific content; it wouldn't create clutter for non-ironsworn systems.
does raise some questions about what document to use as a base for themes, domains, and delve sites. 🤔
journal entries are the only option with subtype support
but rolltables actually model most of the behavior we care about
could be generated on the fly using prepareData(), similar to how we do them with getters in foundry-ironsworn
a denizen matrix could be modeled with minimal changes to the base rolltable. it's really just a collection of actor results, and they already have support for that
a delve site, meanwhile, is basically a container for:
a theme
a domain
(possibly) an additional theme/domain, if the optional rule for extras is used
a denizen matrix
a progress track to a site
which might be doable with a journal entry holding various subtypes of JEP? JEs also work as a map pin, which is nice.
One concern raised by @ben in the past is that this would make delve content much less discoverable... and we'd probably end up fielding a lot of questions about it, haha.
however! v11 is making several improvements to dependency management. among them are a "recommended packages" field in the system manifest. to my knowledge this is telegraphed in the setup screen, too.
Potential benefits
Challenges
foundry-ironsworn
worlds with existing delve content?migrateData
is a reasonable startdelve
: basic, system-agnostic "engine"ironsworn-delve
: depends onfoundry-ironsworn
,delve
.foundry-ironsworn
is in the pictureWith a system-agnostic module
foundry-ironsworn
simply override them with its fancier vue sheetsfoundry-ironsworn
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