From e14a343357333182fc3aad2ead3dc48f687526fa Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Robert Del Rey <97957244+instafinanzas@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:17:48 -0400 Subject: [PATCH 1/4] Create Zealy WG Call 2024-03-04 Signed-off-by: Robert Del Rey <97957244+instafinanzas@users.noreply.github.com> --- wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 | 126 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 126 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 diff --git a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 new file mode 100644 index 00000000..cb028b61 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +Akash Network - Zealy Working Group (WG) + +Agenda +- Mission prize rebalance +- Extra funding +- Campaign stats +- Social Media outreach and posts + +Meeting Details +Date: Monday, December 18, 2023 +Time: 6:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +Recording https://drive.google.com/file/d/18UUcMaziOlI0VsYI1juMIdyhMEKJDvc2/view?usp=sharing +Transcript https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K4n7XVgGpt76KTWLhFzecSEhohdP2MOM6BM1pA2mItU/edit?usp=sharing + +Attendees +Benjamin B, Joe Deng, Robert Del Rey, Rodrigo Rochin +Transcript +This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created. +Robert Del Rey: Today, we're gonna talk a few updates about Now that the campaign is life proposal to 247 live on Shane a little over a week ago and it has on the 28th. I believe it was not the 29th. I believe it was Wednesday Thursday. I don't remember but the proposal pass and now we're officially have to make this happen. Today's call is gonna be short and sweet unless you guys have more things to discuss. I have the agenda for today, which we're cover prices rebalancing. We're gonna specify some requirements on the missions due to some questions we had over the weekend. +Robert Del Rey: Also, we're get deer Piper is gonna go over the numbers that we have so far how many people have done missions and some other stats if possible? and also I'm going to talk about the Outreach campaign and social media posts for the silly a cash developer onboarding initiatives and more So that's my agenda guys, unless you want to add another topic to the agenda. Let me know. +Robert Del Rey: otherwise I just Jump Right In. So the price rebalancing, it's crazy. I don't like to talk about price but it's no secret but a cash is super pumping and the math we did with the prices. +Robert Del Rey: The math we did with the prices has to change because we got a limited amount of funds. to give as prices so during the weekend Benjamin I discussed that it would be if we rebalance the prices. So we have more prices to give out to people. +Robert Del Rey: The rebalancing didn't affect all the missions. It was Some missions estate with the prices they had because for those missions for example the content creation missions. We want to get Only the Best winner. We're open to all the submissions, but we're specifically looking forward to get the best submissions why those prices are higher for example they create a short style. What is a cash video? That mission alone gives you 50 akt. I haven't seen the price lately, but if you multiply it by four. Those are $200 for a one-minute video. So we are definitely looking for of the best video here. +Robert Del Rey: the missions that we did rebalance our missions to build deploy stuff on a cache. and those went down from 15 akt to five akt and that rebalance is gonna help us to give more rewards to people because we are really interested to get more developers doing these missions. I don't know If you want to add something more to the mission rebalancing and I see your hand. So there you go, man. +Benjamin B: Yeah, thank I just wanted to mention here that we have a total of around 1900 akt for rewards for the full three months and when we divided this by 15, we noticed that we would only have a maximum of 126 users if the users all completed this challenge. When we have the goal to have at least 250 unique users. And up towards a thousand. We thought that we have to change this and even decreasing it to 580 is still quite a lot for such a simple challenge. +Benjamin B: And everyone who did the challenge the first couple of days before the price change will still receive the 1580, but everyone completing it from after the price change will not receive the 15 They will receive five instead. We calculated that. +Benjamin B: If we want a thousand users the average Mission needs to cost 1.9 akt and while this one costs. 580 we're hoping that we can have some users completing free missions and some users completing a paid once and we're still trying to balance it out and Our goal is to at least hit 250 users and then we can't really know how many missions each user Will want to complete we're not going to put any limit On how many missions each user completes right now? that would The Fairly make it possible to limit it to +00:05:00 +Benjamin B: to make it per user but I don't think that's a good way of doing it. I think rather let's just try to aim for at least 250 and a maximum of maybe 500 to 1,000 paid once. +Robert Del Rey: Sure, that sounds cool And also we got to remember that these campaign has started Last Friday, so if we don't count the weekend it basically been running for only one day. So I guess As we progress and we see more people doing the missions. we will be able To determine the correct amounts and also obviously each time we make important changes like this. We're gonna let people know in the Disco group and also on speaking of social media. so this account called a cash Alpha and the guy is tweeting about this campaign. +Robert Del Rey: I will go ahead and say this. If you are a member of the Akash community and you want to help us get more people doing this. Feel free to do so what I would advise you is don't promise people rewards just lead them to the campaigns. +Robert Del Rey: perhaps he is I don't know but if you are Joe great job for doing that. It's a really solid Twitter page. So maybe we can discuss more ways to work together. And in appreciate the effort in trying to make more people do this. So maybe we can have something I'm thinking is that and this is related to the topic. For the social media outreach and the social media campaigns maybe by the end of the first month. We can have a Twitter spaces so we can have more updates we can have more results to share with people and that way we can all go ahead and incentivize or motivate more people to join and do the missions. But yeah. that's all I have for the price rebalancing. Hi Brody. Thank you for joining men and Joe or Joey. +Robert Del Rey: I'm gonna stick to Joe. I don't know if that's the correct way. But you had a question go ahead sir jump in. +Joe Deng: All Yeah to Joe's fine. so it's not a question as much as yeah, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to do. I was just trying to because I have my own budget that I want to go to page with right. So I will promote that separately. Does that make sense? So even for this one like I have two questions, right? The one you said is if you want to help bring more people to the campaign, feel free. but I have a question and I had that question of private too. It's because my guy that I'm making right it's basically like, how do I explain it as a non-programmer i bumbled my way through finishing the task, So I've written this guy to help basically other people to do that right without doing it the way that I did the long way. So by doing this and my poisoning the am I adding non-developers into the pool of which you're trying to Target only Developers for this really campaign. Do you understand what I'm saying? So the effort is the objective to grow the numbers and say hey I have a lot +Joe Deng: Of people doing it, which I will help towards or is it more like I specifically want developers to do it and I don't really want, normal retail investors, which is my target market for the Twitter page, we don't want them to do it. Does that make sense? +Robert Del Rey: Yeah those but before I go Benji. What you want to say, man? +Benjamin B: Yeah, I wanted to respond to this question. I think that it's valuable to have a bit of all types of users to join. This silic campaign. I think that it's really valuable to be able to educate users that you can do this with a course. Maybe they're not gonna continue learning development programming. Maybe they're gonna stop but at least they know about it. Maybe some users want to start learning how to deploy their own stuff. maybe it's simple as someone follows one of these guides and then they want to deploy our Minecraft server. with their friends. For example, I think that even if the user is not a developer from the beginning and even if they don't want to become a developer, I think it's still very valuable to include those users. So don't work here. +00:10:00 +Robert Del Rey: No, not at all men. Thanks for stepping in. I appreciate a lot. I wish more community members step in honestly. So yeah, maybe we can chat in the same silly chat and we can coordinate more actions together because I do believe that if we're gonna do this in you want to help us and we want to make this a success the least we can do is try to work together so we can create even more impact. So in case you have any questions doubts concerns, or maybe Sure about how to go about certain things. Yeah, just let us know. We are more than happy to collaborate with community members because +Robert Del Rey: This is a community campaign. I mean Benjamin I came together. We expose the benefits the downsides of this campaign and their cash team supported us, so The way I see you helping us. It's not very different on how we were a few months ago. And we are still trying to get involved in the community try to help as much as we can. So you get the right attitude man, and again appreciate your effort. So that's all I had for the mission rebalancing. I don't know Benji if all of them are rebalance. Or if you're still need more time to do that. But yeah, that's the missionary balance. +Benjamin B: the only one that I balance now and change the price of it's the free stuff deployment guide. I also went to the short Mission and Made sure that it specified that we will depict. One winner Instead of having it to be a guaranteed price as long as it fits the requirements besides this. +Robert Del Rey: awesome +Benjamin B: I don't think I've done anything. I think we still need to go through the description. So some of the missions Maybe +Robert Del Rey: That's cool No worries in that same line. I want to jump now to the mainnet mission and a test net mission. and the reason why I saw this question on Telegram should I do this on testnet or should I do this on mainnet? And I believe we had the same questions when we run the pilot. So I'm gonna drop this suggestion and maybe you can let me know what you think and you guys in the audience as well. Maybe it doesn't matter if they do them on mainnet or if they do them on testnet. But if they do it on testnet, they won't get the equity reward. And the reason why study because we want this development to happen on mainnet. So that's what let me know what you think man you. +Benjamin B: Yeah, I think we should give the rewards even if it's on Tesla because if you're trying to onboard new users, either you're going to have to reward them to have them have their first ATT or they have to buy it and I think if they can go to Celia and they can get rewarded with their first take it. I don't think that's about idea. I think that for some missions we can force it being a may not but other than that, I think And we shouldn't make it. +Robert Del Rey: Restrict the participanya, I believe now that you said that this way if we have that requirement, some people might feel restricted and not Missions at all. So we want them to do the missions Maybe we can have a comment, but sorry Joe just one second. Because I lost my thought really quickly Maybe what we can do is have a Disclosure by the end of this Mission saying this Mission can be done either on a cache maintenance or on a cash test net. So people can see that and they want that we require them to be specifically on mainnet. +00:15:00 +Robert Del Rey: We can also specify that by the end of the description in the mission or in the same title. we can have them saying something like but I believe if we add them in the mission description this Mission can be done either on testnet or mainnet and the ones that are meant to be on maintenance. They have to specify that one that I think we have to specify has to be May on maintenance. should be the deploy persistent storage and become a provider on a cash Network. I believe that that would make sense now go ahead Joe. +Joe Deng: I was just gonna say that I was really confused. When I got to that point. I thought that it was testing that because you guys have the faucet in the beginning but then for whatever reason I personally couldn't get the cloud most deployed. I know how to switch to the testnet but for something I couldn't get a certificate it was really odd thing. But either way yeah, I was making a guide I was making a requirements and this could kind of weird it's a dude this guide you need to have five point like one akt to pay for gas, to start it seemed kind of weird. So I do agree that testnet is available then completely free that might work but on the flip side, I thought of it you pay five akt into escrow and they're gonna give you five akt back, and then you go ahead and cancel your deployment whenever you get that money, So that was the way I thought of it So either way anyway at the end. I just agreed that having the description. +Joe Deng: A requirement description is definitely the way to go. +Robert Del Rey: Awesome, and thanks for the insights. Let me go back to the first mission. The one that says get access to build on a cash missions. That's the only one that has their cash test net for set and get akt testnet tokens. Do you believe that could confuse people? +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. +Robert Del Rey: Thanks, I appreciate it. By the way. There is a discussion on a cash GitHub to rebalance that amount those five akt probably they wanted to go to lower it down to 0.5. Akt. Let's see how that goes. But Thanks for sharing the Insight now, I believe. Yeah, it should be solved if we are specify feel free to play on testnet. And use the testnet token. Here's the faucet and maybe lower we can add something like Now if you're gonna do this on mainnet don't use the testnet file set because it's not gonna work or something like that that specifies the way to go because I'm in the same place as you Joe if I enter here and I see enter to the testnet for set and get akt. +Robert Del Rey: And then I see that I don't even need that but worse it doesn't work when I try to do the real missions. I don't know this should be here in the first line of this Mission, it can be confusing. Maybe if you read a few more minutes, you're gonna understand yourself okay, that it's for playing main it is real real stuff. But I don't want people to get confused for this because this is this is just a little detail, but +Robert Del Rey: you don't know think how people gonna react and we do want people to jump into this find it easy and they can start doing missions as soon as possible without that friction. And I believe that can cause a little friction not that much but it can cost a little friction. So something to think about for sure. What's up Benji? +00:20:00 +Robert Del Rey: Okay, I'm here to myself before speaking. All right, that sounds cool. I will leave a little note so we can get that done as soon as this call is done. now bendy, I'm gonna go rest a little so you can give us some numbers updates. I'm curious to know how many missions we got so far users. Whatever number you want to share with us. Feel free to share it. All right. +Benjamin B: Yeah, Thank you. so to start off there was one thing we wanted to let down the see when we wanted to track new developers to a coach and we wanted to see How many doc reviews? Joined down the participated in the city program. And right now we have some really exciting numbers. We have a total number of 17 Docker users who has done the information on Out of these 13 or newly registered. So 13 people are here with new accounts or it's the first time. using docker four of these users to remaining for or inactive users that have become active with this campaign. +Benjamin B: and out of these 17 nine people have successfully uploaded our documents related to a coach not everyone has a submitted this yet To Sealy so only six as cut into price so far, but nine has successfully done it. and besides this we have let me see a total of 50 participants on Sealy during the Sprint. I don't know how many we have all time. But now it's up to 131. +Benjamin B: and besides this we only have six missions completed that have prices there are 22 ones to go through but there are a lot of +Benjamin B: a lot of the ones related to the ones where only one winner will be picked or a couple winners will repeat such as AI image one I think that's it for the numbers. +Robert Del Rey: This great That's great. Not bad for the first week. In my opinion. I'm looking at the least of the leaderboard also for This Sprint is going to be for the whole month of March from March 1st until March 31st. So you're gonna have one full month to do all the missions that you can. Before we close this screen and we paid the rewards for On the second month we're gonna open up more missions for those listening now and those listening to the recording what you see here is not all. +Robert Del Rey: There are more missions. If you want to see the name of the missions, you can find them in the proposal. However, those missions are not available to do yet when we are on the second month another batch of missions is gonna open up. And when we go to the third month another batch of missions is gonna open up so you can do missions for the first month and get rewards you can do missions on the second month and get rewards you can do missions on the third month and get Rewards. Or you can just do one mission for one month and that's it. But we want you to do all the missions that you can. +Robert Del Rey: I was saying not all the missions are available. So what you see now is what you can do. If you don't see the mission, it's because you cannot do it. It's because it's not public yet. But again, if you want to see what the missions look like or what they are about you can go to the proposal to 47 and you can see the name of the mission and maybe with that name you can start thinking about how you're gonna do it if you want to do it, of course. But Really nice Thanks for sharing the numbers Benji the next silly working group call. I believe it's gonna happen in two weeks. It happens. Every other week if I'm not mistaken. +00:25:00 +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I said in my calendar. So next call is gonna be on Monday 18th. Let's see how the numbers are gonna look like by then, but I'm pretty stoked to see almost 50 people in the leaderboard In around almost 20 submissions. I guess we're in the right pace. Honestly. Go ahead Benji. +Benjamin B: Yeah, I just wanted to say that the 18th. I will just barely have set foot in the US for the Nvidia event. So I may to attend. I'm not sure how the shadow will look there. But either way I will help compile the numbers and everything so that you can go through everything. +Robert Del Rey: That's good, Thanks for the heads Really nice. That's the themedia GTC event, right? +Benjamin B: Yes. +Robert Del Rey: Awesome. +Robert Del Rey: we have a mission about at 10:00 one event that I cash is attending and you take a picture with their cash team. You post that picture on social media and you could earn some akt. That mission it's not public yet. But I'm curious do you believe we should open it up? Because we have that event happening and also on March we have. Cocoin There is qvcon happening as well. So do you think we should take advantage of those events happening or we should wait for the coming months and opening up the mission by them? +Benjamin B: Yeah, I think we can have it for almost all events. We just barely missed if Denver we would have two days for that one. And I don't think Nvidia GTC one is worth it because it's not a crypto event, so I don't really think. A course people will go there. I'm there with two members of the core team. But besides that I'm guessing there will be zero a coach participants, but I might +Robert Del Rey: All even if you take a picture with you, it's gonna count us as a cash team. Don't you say +Benjamin B: I mean there will be overclocked people so +Robert Del Rey: perhaps +Robert Del Rey: I'm not think about that. The good thing is that in case we Open up the mission. We're going to post it on Telegram and discourse. So people can be on the loop about that the really man, really cool. I wasn't aware you were going maybe you told me but I just forgot so good luck over there. And I guess that's great to jump on to the next topic on the agenda, which is the social media outreach and the social media posting and on Friday when the proposal passed I start bming good contacts. I have in the cosmos ecosystem. so we can get their support either by liking the tweet retweeting and sharing in their communities. I got a few people to respond, but I noticed that more than half couldn't respond because they were at eat Denver. It's a big event. +Robert Del Rey: And people are busy. So what I did is that when I noticed more than 10 people responding that they couldn't see it now because they were at East Denver. I just stopped with the Outreach and I will continue This week around Wednesday. I will start again outreaching to people. In the meantime, I will continue posting. I got some Tweets in draft that they will be posted automatically also a few scheduled messages on telegram. So to remind people I think also that the more we remind people that this is available and that this is running the better for this campaign because sometimes yeah, we can say hey this is just started and the hype of the first day people are gonna see the missions whatever but next week, they're gonna forget if we don't +Robert Del Rey: actively tell them that this is available and that this is for them. So that's why I'm putting this emphasis in this social media campaign as a social media, but it goes beyond social media because I also gonna post on telegram on this score and even WhatsApp that I have other crypto groups there too. Yeah, people are still use WhatsApp. so yeah, that's what I have for the Outreach campaign. I got a call with someone on Thursday to see if we can do a campaign together. Let's see how that's gonna look like. We are in the idealization phase now. and for Joe +00:30:00 +Robert Del Rey: Let's see if we can come up with that Twitter spaces in a month. when we're about to close the March Sprint. We can do that Twitter space to see if we can get a few more people doing the missions before the month of March is closed on Sealy. And I also think that can be beneficial for both. because not everybody is on a cash Discord sadly. Some people like to get their info from Twitter. So, yeah, I guess it's gonna be beneficial for both parties. Again, we want as many people as we can get and since the proposal pass now the job is bring those developers as we promise in that proposal. 19th 22nd March doesn't work for me anyways. +Robert Del Rey: yeah. Yeah Benjamin you are at GTC Nvidia. You can still take some pictures and share them in the inside. I really want to see how a non crypto event look like. But that's what I had to say about the campaign Outreach and social media post. I'm gonna say this in the call. I'm reaching some people from some projects as specifically because they also have Sealy. So I'm thinking how we can have a joint campaign something like go to this community Sealy and they get a price in the other community or if you're coming from this other community to this community how we can reward those people. +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, just an idea trying to see again how we can get as many people as we can here. I'm not too stressed about it though because again We can try to bring a thousand people. But if none of them do submissions, it's the same as we do nothing, but I still need to bring the people in so they can do the missions. I guess what remains to think about is how we gonna motivate more people to do the missions. We have the tweets for that. We're going to have tutorial videos for that. So people know how they can go around this. And more to come again. I don't want to get too far ahead this campaign. +Robert Del Rey: Isn't more than a week all it's still super fresh out of the oven. So I guess we're gonna give time to time also, but don't stop working. We got to work a lot to make this happen now Rodrigo your turn Thanks for jumping in. +Rodrigo Rochin: And I was gonna say that Ready to help out with the tweets and marketing to bring more people on board. And just let me know how to help them. and raise up Because yeah,… +Robert Del Rey: appreciation and +Rodrigo Rochin: I know you're gonna I mean like you said, I mean, it's not many people commissions and we don't get new deaths or new users. it's like on the program doesn't do much but I said before it looks like there's more motivation and then even in telegram people are also asking about it. so I think it will work just That promoted. +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I'm in the domain me so happy honestly because unexpected. Let's see how we can capitalize on that how we can go ahead and make sure those people participate I guess that is what I'm gonna be thinking throughout the day and again Rodrigo. Thank you for your support if you see one question in the chat, and I have a respond. And you want to help us out with that feel free to do so if you have any doubts my DMs are always open for you and that to Savage escimen, that what else about sharing the tweets. +Rodrigo Rochin: It's easy now.. +Robert Del Rey: What I'm gonna do is that each time that I post a tweet. I will go ahead and publish it in the city Channel and also the Insiders chat so we can get the support all the super weekend in amplifying these Also, we got sack Tyler told me that in case we need amplify from the cash to it just to mention sac and he will help us out. so yeah, I guess we're super ready to make this a super success more than the pilot. I don't know how you guys feel about it. Go ahead brother. +00:35:00 +Rodrigo Rochin: I feel the same. from what I saw in telegram. Some people were kind of scared of connecting the wallet to see but Luna or someone already told him that it's safe and Shouldn't be a problem. And I don't think there's any problem there. but if you come up with a tutorial or something should definitely help maybe some people are not aware of in didn't think that most didn't know about it, but in Telegram some people would care about connecting wallets,… +Robert Del Rey: he +Rodrigo Rochin: which I totally understand but If we just tell them that they can create a new one without their funds that they don't want to lose. But again, we'll see he's safe. +Robert Del Rey: It's a thoroughly based concern honestly, and I wish Some things improve on silly but sadly to do what we are doing seal is one of the best platform in the market right now and it's free. There are two other platforms similar to Sealy, but they charge you a few thousands before you start using it. So, yeah, I wish it wasn't like that but that's how it is. But let me tell you I will send some message. Yes, letting people know that they don't have to connect their wallet. They can create a silly account using their Discord or they're not telegram they can use their Discord or… +Rodrigo Rochin: their email +Robert Del Rey: Twitter or an email if they want to so it's not mandatory to connect their wallet. +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah. +Robert Del Rey: I would go ahead and send that message on telegram because you say It's what I've seen more questions about silly coming in surprisingly. I thought we were gonna have more questions on this course, but yeah, it's on telegram right now. So I guess it's gonna be a good reminder that one here that won't hurt. +Rodrigo Rochin: guessing and also and both to complete the missions, I mean cousin Seeley. We need metamask technique or Wally connect but for the missions, it's pepper and we're using definite The sandbox for most missions or no? +Robert Del Rey: we were talking about that before you jump in. We're gonna specify that people can do the missions on testnet or on mainet and those missions that we do need them to do them on mainnet. We're gonna specify that also. so yeah about your question How did you get paid by Sealy? Is it Sealy? No, silly just have this option that if you want to create an account, you can connect a wallet and you are gonna create an account. +Robert Del Rey: Using that wallet address but it's not silly that pays you how we did it in the last pilot is that we announced We've shared the list of winners just their usernames and we asked them to share the address they want to use to get paid and I manually sent those payments so they don't get paid through silly. There are missions that I can set them up When you're done, please enter your wallet address and you can enter your wallet address and this can be a different address from a wallet address that you might have used to connect to Sealy, but there are not Niche there are no missions like that. I believe we're gonna take the same approach as we did with the pilot. We're gonna let the community know who were the winners. +Robert Del Rey: And I'm gonna wait for the winners to reach out to me so I can pay out the rewards. I believe that's a safer way to go and again silly does not pay. I cannot go ahead and say silly. I have a thousand akt here for this campaign with a campaign is Make sure you pay it. Everybody know it doesn't work like that. We have to manually review the missions and after we run the missions the rewards are not paid out right away. You're gonna see on your profile that you want this mission. But you're gonna get paid when we paid out the reports. But yeah, it will be great if they take care of that but I guess it will be more dangerous also and imagine someone hacks silly. I guess the reason why city has been successful. +00:40:00 +Robert Del Rey: In this sense is that they don't have any talking and they're not on a blockchain whatsoever. But when you add that token factor that blockchain factor, that susceptible for people want to hack whatever they want to hack. So I guess having the option it's good for now. Let's see what the future tell us later. We pay out testnet payments. I don't get the question We didn't do any kyc on the pilot I just confirmed the username was the same that we had on the platform and after they confirmed the username. I just paid them but we didn't do any kyc to pay out the rewards. I don't know if that should change since this is an official campaign. +Robert Del Rey: But again, this is not a campaign that is coming from overclock teams or from a cash team. This campaign is coming from the community. So I don't know if we should do kyc. Plus that's a bit expensive. I heard Rodrigo you go first and then we have Benji. +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, I left a little bit of connection before but yeah, like you said, I think Siri has been successful because they don't operate with pumped or their own boxing. Although when you sign up with wallet connector metamask you do sign a message. I'm not sure that could get hacked here. If it's dangerous in the long run. I also agree that maybe it's not necessary to do kyc for this and it's better to do what you guys have done during the pilot just manually checking everything and sending a cake tea afterwards. +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, but that looks like some people are scared about connecting metamask, which I totally understand. So just that I will also help to let them know that it's not necessary they can doing with this or email or +Rodrigo Rochin: he said yeah, that's what +Robert Del Rey: Good. Go ahead Benji. +Benjamin B: I wanted to say that as long as you're the one who manages the finances and I don't think we should be once controller went not to use kyc. I think that companies use it for a reason so they can track who they send money to. And if that's not relevant for you, no, I'm not sure how the taxes are in your country and Etc. You don't have to do it but It would be good to have just in case. But as long as it works for you. It works without keyword C adding kyc would also be another security. step so we wouldn't get this money people trying to create multiple accounts to win more Awards and such. +Robert Del Rey: I agree with you gentlemen's there was one instance during the pilot that I was a bit effective on one user because he signed up with an email. And his user on Discord didn't match on silly. so something happened. But how I was able to confirm that I was chatting with the person and that I send the rewards to the person is that I quickly created a mission confirm. You're a person something like that. and I send them the mission Can you do this mission right now? Let me know when you do it and I saw that he did it. And as soon as he did it I was able to confirm that. Okay, this is the person that is in control of this account. +Robert Del Rey: That was the biggest. One that I was concerned I was super unsure about pain that required. But after I confirm his identity I did it I did it. Other than that the other instance that we had abuse was and I say abuse for a lack of a better word because it was an abuse, but with this covered that two different people were using the same. Computer and we had to Benji figure that out. Majestically. It was really if it wasn't for you ji. Totally. I wouldn't have discovered that let's see what people come with for this campaign, but people are always gonna try to take advantage of things so we gotta be on top of that for sure. +00:45:00 +Robert Del Rey: But yeah, I'm not too much worried about the abusing. Honestly. What I'm worried about is getting the people doing the missions, But yeah, that's what I have for today's guys. We will cover the price rebalancing. We're gonna specify The missions that you can do on maintenance and testnets the ones that you can do only on mainnet, we also heard from Benji how many people have joined Seeley how many people have done missions and how many people are getting rewards crazy first weekend and people already getting rewards, which is nice. Thanks Benjamin you for sharing those numbers. Remember the next silly working group call is gonna happen on Monday 18th exactly into weeks from now. +Robert Del Rey: And that this current Sprint ends on March 31st. until then to do all the missions you can during this Sprint. And lastly the messages on social media. We're going to remind people that they don't have to connect their wallet address. They don't. and that if they want to they can create an account only using an email which can be any this score or Twitter And I don't know if I miss anything, but if I did you guys let me know if I didn't miss anything. Thank you for your time So you want to see you right? See you in the group chats. +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, see you. +Benjamin B: Thank everyone. +Robert Del Rey: Thank you for joining right see you. +Rodrigo Rochin: for hosting +Robert Del Rey: Anytime man, bye-bye. +Rodrigo Rochin: right +Benjamin B: but +Meeting ended after 00:47:36 👋 + + From 4a6e6d6b2adbb7e018c75a49eed416063a8baefc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:54:03 -0400 Subject: [PATCH 2/4] Update 2024-03-04 update structure of transcript. Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --- wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 | 339 ++++++++++++++++++++++++----------- 1 file changed, 236 insertions(+), 103 deletions(-) diff --git a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 index cb028b61..74f56fc1 100644 --- a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 +++ b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 @@ -1,126 +1,259 @@ Akash Network - Zealy Working Group (WG) -Agenda +# Agenda - Mission prize rebalance - Extra funding - Campaign stats - Social Media outreach and posts -Meeting Details +## Meeting Details Date: Monday, December 18, 2023 Time: 6:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) Recording https://drive.google.com/file/d/18UUcMaziOlI0VsYI1juMIdyhMEKJDvc2/view?usp=sharing Transcript https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K4n7XVgGpt76KTWLhFzecSEhohdP2MOM6BM1pA2mItU/edit?usp=sharing -Attendees +## Attendees + Benjamin B, Joe Deng, Robert Del Rey, Rodrigo Rochin -Transcript -This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created. -Robert Del Rey: Today, we're gonna talk a few updates about Now that the campaign is life proposal to 247 live on Shane a little over a week ago and it has on the 28th. I believe it was not the 29th. I believe it was Wednesday Thursday. I don't remember but the proposal pass and now we're officially have to make this happen. Today's call is gonna be short and sweet unless you guys have more things to discuss. I have the agenda for today, which we're cover prices rebalancing. We're gonna specify some requirements on the missions due to some questions we had over the weekend. -Robert Del Rey: Also, we're get deer Piper is gonna go over the numbers that we have so far how many people have done missions and some other stats if possible? and also I'm going to talk about the Outreach campaign and social media posts for the silly a cash developer onboarding initiatives and more So that's my agenda guys, unless you want to add another topic to the agenda. Let me know. -Robert Del Rey: otherwise I just Jump Right In. So the price rebalancing, it's crazy. I don't like to talk about price but it's no secret but a cash is super pumping and the math we did with the prices. -Robert Del Rey: The math we did with the prices has to change because we got a limited amount of funds. to give as prices so during the weekend Benjamin I discussed that it would be if we rebalance the prices. So we have more prices to give out to people. -Robert Del Rey: The rebalancing didn't affect all the missions. It was Some missions estate with the prices they had because for those missions for example the content creation missions. We want to get Only the Best winner. We're open to all the submissions, but we're specifically looking forward to get the best submissions why those prices are higher for example they create a short style. What is a cash video? That mission alone gives you 50 akt. I haven't seen the price lately, but if you multiply it by four. Those are $200 for a one-minute video. So we are definitely looking for of the best video here. -Robert Del Rey: the missions that we did rebalance our missions to build deploy stuff on a cache. and those went down from 15 akt to five akt and that rebalance is gonna help us to give more rewards to people because we are really interested to get more developers doing these missions. I don't know If you want to add something more to the mission rebalancing and I see your hand. So there you go, man. -Benjamin B: Yeah, thank I just wanted to mention here that we have a total of around 1900 akt for rewards for the full three months and when we divided this by 15, we noticed that we would only have a maximum of 126 users if the users all completed this challenge. When we have the goal to have at least 250 unique users. And up towards a thousand. We thought that we have to change this and even decreasing it to 580 is still quite a lot for such a simple challenge. -Benjamin B: And everyone who did the challenge the first couple of days before the price change will still receive the 1580, but everyone completing it from after the price change will not receive the 15 They will receive five instead. We calculated that. -Benjamin B: If we want a thousand users the average Mission needs to cost 1.9 akt and while this one costs. 580 we're hoping that we can have some users completing free missions and some users completing a paid once and we're still trying to balance it out and Our goal is to at least hit 250 users and then we can't really know how many missions each user Will want to complete we're not going to put any limit On how many missions each user completes right now? that would The Fairly make it possible to limit it to + + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Robert Del Rey: Alright guys GM and welcome to the last silly Community call working group of the year. My name is Del Rey. So happy to have join today guys And also we are recording in case people can't join right now. So I was saying before studying they call. Yeah, it seems that people was busy doing the wicked asking questions about the prices. so I guess what we're gonna discuss on the agenda today is the selection or determining the winners for the akt prices. I want to go over that and also here you guys thoughts about Gathering the winners addresses. So basically those two are the main topics. I have a mind. + +Robert Del Rey: and yeah, then we can talk about extending the pilot to which is a whole other story. about Gathering the winners and the addresses thanks to Benji bendy created a script. I just needed to send him a file with all the participants on a cash, silly. and after he run this the script we were able to determine how many people participated? How many missions they did how many XP points they earn and more most importantly how many akt rewards we should send them which is super awesome tool. Thank you so much bendy. You really were the MVP just because of that tool I can tell you that. So let me open up the document. + +Robert Del Rey: I have it in an Excel file in my computer. I don't know. That's another question. Maybe how can we go about publishing this? I believe I publish. One document one link already, but this one doesn't have the addresses people use to sign up and On the document I sent you have a hash. for the user you have the XP points. You have their Discord username that Twitter username and the username they have four ceiling. So the only thing that is not showing up in the link I sent on Friday. It's gonna be the addresses that people used to First login or just add any random address for City because Celio also asking for address + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, I believe that was a good privacy measure. But yeah in total, There are 20 people that earn akt prices which I believe was super nice big bigger Plus for that. Is gracing it over two weeks we had that amount of participants And also these 20 winners are after being you review the missions because if I understand right there were people that participated but the missions were in good enough to earn the points. At the end we had more people signed up to see than more people that got the rewards and that makes sense. I just believe that in just two weeks. This is a great number to have any people. + +Robert Del Rey: There two that won around 45 akt each and were two people. And after that if you take an average. + +Robert Del Rey: On average everybody want around 20 to 25 AC for the 20 participants. If you take the average now the highest earners 145 and the lowest earners are one just 10 akt which I believe it's also good. I don't know but if you want to go over this and maybe tell me your experience about running the tool getting the winners. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, overall, how do you feel about the prices we did? And the missions to earn those prices and maybe you can add some insights about reviewing those missions. Yeah. + +Benjamin B: Yeah, So let me start with The script I created basically just goes through the leaderboard for every user. And they click the linked basically and I'm explaining the money process. So if you go to leaderboard page. You will see all the users there. If you click on user profile there you will see the missions completed. in the script, I don't have any information of the attempted measures only the ones that were reviewed and that passed. so after doing this for each and every user with the script It compiles it to a total number. And to help Robert. I also created it so that + 00:05:00 -Benjamin B: to make it per user but I don't think that's a good way of doing it. I think rather let's just try to aim for at least 250 and a maximum of maybe 500 to 1,000 paid once. -Robert Del Rey: Sure, that sounds cool And also we got to remember that these campaign has started Last Friday, so if we don't count the weekend it basically been running for only one day. So I guess As we progress and we see more people doing the missions. we will be able To determine the correct amounts and also obviously each time we make important changes like this. We're gonna let people know in the Disco group and also on speaking of social media. so this account called a cash Alpha and the guy is tweeting about this campaign. -Robert Del Rey: I will go ahead and say this. If you are a member of the Akash community and you want to help us get more people doing this. Feel free to do so what I would advise you is don't promise people rewards just lead them to the campaigns. -Robert Del Rey: perhaps he is I don't know but if you are Joe great job for doing that. It's a really solid Twitter page. So maybe we can discuss more ways to work together. And in appreciate the effort in trying to make more people do this. So maybe we can have something I'm thinking is that and this is related to the topic. For the social media outreach and the social media campaigns maybe by the end of the first month. We can have a Twitter spaces so we can have more updates we can have more results to share with people and that way we can all go ahead and incentivize or motivate more people to join and do the missions. But yeah. that's all I have for the price rebalancing. Hi Brody. Thank you for joining men and Joe or Joey. -Robert Del Rey: I'm gonna stick to Joe. I don't know if that's the correct way. But you had a question go ahead sir jump in. -Joe Deng: All Yeah to Joe's fine. so it's not a question as much as yeah, I think you misunderstood what I was trying to do. I was just trying to because I have my own budget that I want to go to page with right. So I will promote that separately. Does that make sense? So even for this one like I have two questions, right? The one you said is if you want to help bring more people to the campaign, feel free. but I have a question and I had that question of private too. It's because my guy that I'm making right it's basically like, how do I explain it as a non-programmer i bumbled my way through finishing the task, So I've written this guy to help basically other people to do that right without doing it the way that I did the long way. So by doing this and my poisoning the am I adding non-developers into the pool of which you're trying to Target only Developers for this really campaign. Do you understand what I'm saying? So the effort is the objective to grow the numbers and say hey I have a lot -Joe Deng: Of people doing it, which I will help towards or is it more like I specifically want developers to do it and I don't really want, normal retail investors, which is my target market for the Twitter page, we don't want them to do it. Does that make sense? -Robert Del Rey: Yeah those but before I go Benji. What you want to say, man? -Benjamin B: Yeah, I wanted to respond to this question. I think that it's valuable to have a bit of all types of users to join. This silic campaign. I think that it's really valuable to be able to educate users that you can do this with a course. Maybe they're not gonna continue learning development programming. Maybe they're gonna stop but at least they know about it. Maybe some users want to start learning how to deploy their own stuff. maybe it's simple as someone follows one of these guides and then they want to deploy our Minecraft server. with their friends. For example, I think that even if the user is not a developer from the beginning and even if they don't want to become a developer, I think it's still very valuable to include those users. So don't work here. + +Benjamin B: it showed the individual equity and for the missions, I think that some of the missions were really easy, but + +Benjamin B: We got kind of what we wanted. We wanted to get users to experiment with and we did exactly that so people who never used a coach before were able to create deployments and while they didn't create something of their own they got to Try out the network and experiment. I think that for the extension we should try to have some more goals than just make them experiment. I don't think we should do the same thing. + +Benjamin B: For every part of the pilot, I think we can have some more advanced ones. We could have more rewards etc for the individual Rewards. + +Benjamin B: besides this I think it was only the reviewing part The reviewing of each mission was easy for me because I knew how to look for everything so for them deployments I had to open one link first and then in that link, usually there was a link that led to an active deployment. and if that active deployment was Correct. I let them pass for the screenshots. That was easy. Also, I saw some people installing very old software like the Akash CLI or whatever to say instead of provide your services. So those have to be denied but I still explained what he did wrong and what it had to do. to pass + +Benjamin B: and the only one that was kind of hard was the provided one because we did not really specify. What we wanted the deliveries to be like so some providers quit instantly. and I think all providers that actually set up their provider for even a few minutes were collected by two such as the provider Explorer there, but then I saw some people They went through the freight to wrap installation, but unfortunately, I couldn't let them pass because what they wrote was the screenshot that they showed. Did not show anything detailing about the provider. So it was like + +Benjamin B: the page where they set up the DNS and they did it for the main they didn't even own so. I couldn't really help them. + +Robert Del Rey: That's okay, Thanks for sharing. It wasn't quite experience. I was sending a message this morning and something I was thinking about is. all the + +Robert Del Rey: Learn using ceiling after we kind of started running the pilot and I'm pretty sure that over time we're gonna keep on improving the process and how clear are the missions with the instructions. Because I remember the questions on Discord. I Should this mission go on testnet to distribution go on Main should this Mission stays open for three weeks can I close it right away, right so though those little details I guess it's good that now we have them and we can use those three details to make the missions better and more clear for the future. Thank you so much Benjamin for that. I have nineteen private message request on this score + 00:10:00 -Robert Del Rey: No, not at all men. Thanks for stepping in. I appreciate a lot. I wish more community members step in honestly. So yeah, maybe we can chat in the same silly chat and we can coordinate more actions together because I do believe that if we're gonna do this in you want to help us and we want to make this a success the least we can do is try to work together so we can create even more impact. So in case you have any questions doubts concerns, or maybe Sure about how to go about certain things. Yeah, just let us know. We are more than happy to collaborate with community members because -Robert Del Rey: This is a community campaign. I mean Benjamin I came together. We expose the benefits the downsides of this campaign and their cash team supported us, so The way I see you helping us. It's not very different on how we were a few months ago. And we are still trying to get involved in the community try to help as much as we can. So you get the right attitude man, and again appreciate your effort. So that's all I had for the mission rebalancing. I don't know Benji if all of them are rebalance. Or if you're still need more time to do that. But yeah, that's the missionary balance. -Benjamin B: the only one that I balance now and change the price of it's the free stuff deployment guide. I also went to the short Mission and Made sure that it specified that we will depict. One winner Instead of having it to be a guaranteed price as long as it fits the requirements besides this. -Robert Del Rey: awesome -Benjamin B: I don't think I've done anything. I think we still need to go through the description. So some of the missions Maybe -Robert Del Rey: That's cool No worries in that same line. I want to jump now to the mainnet mission and a test net mission. and the reason why I saw this question on Telegram should I do this on testnet or should I do this on mainnet? And I believe we had the same questions when we run the pilot. So I'm gonna drop this suggestion and maybe you can let me know what you think and you guys in the audience as well. Maybe it doesn't matter if they do them on mainnet or if they do them on testnet. But if they do it on testnet, they won't get the equity reward. And the reason why study because we want this development to happen on mainnet. So that's what let me know what you think man you. -Benjamin B: Yeah, I think we should give the rewards even if it's on Tesla because if you're trying to onboard new users, either you're going to have to reward them to have them have their first ATT or they have to buy it and I think if they can go to Celia and they can get rewarded with their first take it. I don't think that's about idea. I think that for some missions we can force it being a may not but other than that, I think And we shouldn't make it. -Robert Del Rey: Restrict the participanya, I believe now that you said that this way if we have that requirement, some people might feel restricted and not Missions at all. So we want them to do the missions Maybe we can have a comment, but sorry Joe just one second. Because I lost my thought really quickly Maybe what we can do is have a Disclosure by the end of this Mission saying this Mission can be done either on a cache maintenance or on a cash test net. So people can see that and they want that we require them to be specifically on mainnet. + +Robert Del Rey: and the reason why is that I'm guessing is because on Friday I sent the message that we have the winners for the first phase of the city pilot. and to claim the reward they have to send me at the end the winners have to send me a DM. I got 19 requests. So I'm going to filter now wish out of those are a scam request which are legit. After I'm done with those I will go ahead and review the winners list again and see who has sent me any message yet and try to tag them in the public chat in the seal in public hey, thanks for why you haven't sent me a message Send me your message so you can claim your Rewards. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, that's one way to do it. But there is another way I'm thinking and is That We could create a mission. It can be called. + +Robert Del Rey: a cash Pilot One winners submit your address and we can create the mission in a way that people can click and submit an address and then We can review those submissions and pay out the rewards space on that. Now you might be asking how can we avoid? + +Robert Del Rey: Not how can we make sure that only the winners to meet their addresses? That's a great question. I guess we can do a condition. Making that the only people that can come complete the missions are the ones that have X amount of points or have done this amount of missions. That way we can make sure that the only people that can do this missions are the one that actually won the + +Robert Del Rey: the equity rewards go ahead and you + +Benjamin B: I don't think there's any point in limiting which people can turn in their akt address if it's not on Sealy because we know which users and one we just don't know their address yet. I think that for next time if it's possible. We should have a mission it's the first mission that you have to do. And they have to create an ATT address and write down that address in that mission, but then once that's done, it's all to complete so they can continue. And if they mess up without it's their own fault, and of course we can try to help but then we should have their address. + +Robert Del Rey: Dude, that's so a smart man. I love it. Thank you so much. I just wrote it down. So if I got it, right basically would be same that the first mission that we have get access to a silly Community. We can add another mission or another field asking them to submit their address beforehand so that way we have their address right away, right or is something we get into that, right? + +Benjamin B: Yeah, I don't think we need to create another one. We could just modify the existing one, but either way works. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I like that one better. Thank you so much. It's simpler and like you say it wouldn't make point to have them I mean to do the condition and try to filter the winners from a scammers because we already have the winners. So it's gonna be a question of matching who is writing and The user is writing us to us. So yeah, Okay, so I guess we can do that. All right, guys, do you have any questions or comments so far before I move on to the next topic I have online. + +Scott Hewitson: No, sounds good to me. + +Robert Del Rey: highest court assignment, thanks for jumping + +Scott Hewitson: All right. Yeah. I was a little late. My daughter was a little unruly this morning, so I had to deal with that, but I'm here. + +Robert Del Rey: New Good Men. Thanks for young Penny. I don't know if I heard correctly, but are you sick. Also, I'm having some weather sick. I don't know. + 00:15:00 -Robert Del Rey: We can also specify that by the end of the description in the mission or in the same title. we can have them saying something like but I believe if we add them in the mission description this Mission can be done either on testnet or mainnet and the ones that are meant to be on maintenance. They have to specify that one that I think we have to specify has to be May on maintenance. should be the deploy persistent storage and become a provider on a cash Network. I believe that that would make sense now go ahead Joe. -Joe Deng: I was just gonna say that I was really confused. When I got to that point. I thought that it was testing that because you guys have the faucet in the beginning but then for whatever reason I personally couldn't get the cloud most deployed. I know how to switch to the testnet but for something I couldn't get a certificate it was really odd thing. But either way yeah, I was making a guide I was making a requirements and this could kind of weird it's a dude this guide you need to have five point like one akt to pay for gas, to start it seemed kind of weird. So I do agree that testnet is available then completely free that might work but on the flip side, I thought of it you pay five akt into escrow and they're gonna give you five akt back, and then you go ahead and cancel your deployment whenever you get that money, So that was the way I thought of it So either way anyway at the end. I just agreed that having the description. -Joe Deng: A requirement description is definitely the way to go. -Robert Del Rey: Awesome, and thanks for the insights. Let me go back to the first mission. The one that says get access to build on a cash missions. That's the only one that has their cash test net for set and get akt testnet tokens. Do you believe that could confuse people? -Robert Del Rey: Yeah. -Robert Del Rey: Thanks, I appreciate it. By the way. There is a discussion on a cash GitHub to rebalance that amount those five akt probably they wanted to go to lower it down to 0.5. Akt. Let's see how that goes. But Thanks for sharing the Insight now, I believe. Yeah, it should be solved if we are specify feel free to play on testnet. And use the testnet token. Here's the faucet and maybe lower we can add something like Now if you're gonna do this on mainnet don't use the testnet file set because it's not gonna work or something like that that specifies the way to go because I'm in the same place as you Joe if I enter here and I see enter to the testnet for set and get akt. -Robert Del Rey: And then I see that I don't even need that but worse it doesn't work when I try to do the real missions. I don't know this should be here in the first line of this Mission, it can be confusing. Maybe if you read a few more minutes, you're gonna understand yourself okay, that it's for playing main it is real real stuff. But I don't want people to get confused for this because this is this is just a little detail, but -Robert Del Rey: you don't know think how people gonna react and we do want people to jump into this find it easy and they can start doing missions as soon as possible without that friction. And I believe that can cause a little friction not that much but it can cost a little friction. So something to think about for sure. What's up Benji? + +Scott Hewitson: I'm sick, every other week just because of the stuff that my daughter brings home. But now I'm okay. I'm on the mend. + +Robert Del Rey: Got him, and thank you. All right. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, so up next. bangi And the rest of course. I want to expand on what other missions can we bring to the table? when you were saying in the beginning that the missions were great because there were simple enough to make people try to cash even people that haven't done a cash. Ever they did it for the first time and were able to do the missions and earn some Rewards. So now I guess the question is how can we level up that? How can we raise the bar? How can we give them people another challenge they feel challenge enough to do it, but don't feel like a skirt to give it a shot, right? + +Robert Del Rey: So, yeah, I guess I'm gonna open the station now what other kind of missions could we bring to the table to keep the ball rolling I guess. + +Robert Del Rey: I like to brainstorm but for now because since we're extending the pilot, I honestly don't have any idea. I try on Saturday coming up with ideas for New Missions for extending the pilot, but I couldn't come with new challenges I guess we can do the same similar missions that we had but I like to bring different missions. But when you have his hand up, let's see what he can say about that. Go ahead and + +Benjamin B: So first of all, I think that we should continue with the existing once we could modify them a little bit. and use the previous budget for that if we're allowed for the extension. I also think that we should have New Missions. I want this to be more specialized. I want to be able to get the community members that are really active Or I really engaged so. The first mission that I was thinking of I would write all of this in the shot later. includes rating in a culture up From scratch so you have a project on your PC? You created documents. Upload it create L unemployed to my coach. Right now we have only made them deployed templates. + +Benjamin B: then for the second mission, I'm thinking that this is a really hard Mission by the way, but + +Benjamin B: but some validators are not really active. So when you're wondering if it's possible to Try to create a mission that Create a new validator and make the top 100 sets. or at least create a new validator and be active on the GitHub discussions page. + +Benjamin B: This one still needs more refining because a lot of Tyler go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: I'd like this idea. I think something that Scott and I are trying to do is make sure that all the validators are participating more. So I think a lot of we're meeting with a number of folks and just connecting with folks because that's relationships that previously we weren't owning and managing. So as we move into New Year, I think that's going to happen. I don't and I think that might be a mission that might be too soon for right now. I also think that the part about getting them into active sets. It's really just down to Dallas and sense. And so I'm not sure that's a mission. I really like the first couple of missions, but only thing I was going to add it. I was wondering if there's a possibility to do an Integrations mission that might be a little more open-ended and be something like worth $300 to 500 akt and it's just + +Tyler Wright: basically I can small hackathon, figure out an integration into a storage solution, that other users can use or something like that. That's other people can benefit from and maybe somebody from the community might be having interest in doing over the holiday. + 00:20:00 -Robert Del Rey: Okay, I'm here to myself before speaking. All right, that sounds cool. I will leave a little note so we can get that done as soon as this call is done. now bendy, I'm gonna go rest a little so you can give us some numbers updates. I'm curious to know how many missions we got so far users. Whatever number you want to share with us. Feel free to share it. All right. -Benjamin B: Yeah, Thank you. so to start off there was one thing we wanted to let down the see when we wanted to track new developers to a coach and we wanted to see How many doc reviews? Joined down the participated in the city program. And right now we have some really exciting numbers. We have a total number of 17 Docker users who has done the information on Out of these 13 or newly registered. So 13 people are here with new accounts or it's the first time. using docker four of these users to remaining for or inactive users that have become active with this campaign. -Benjamin B: and out of these 17 nine people have successfully uploaded our documents related to a coach not everyone has a submitted this yet To Sealy so only six as cut into price so far, but nine has successfully done it. and besides this we have let me see a total of 50 participants on Sealy during the Sprint. I don't know how many we have all time. But now it's up to 131. -Benjamin B: and besides this we only have six missions completed that have prices there are 22 ones to go through but there are a lot of -Benjamin B: a lot of the ones related to the ones where only one winner will be picked or a couple winners will repeat such as AI image one I think that's it for the numbers. -Robert Del Rey: This great That's great. Not bad for the first week. In my opinion. I'm looking at the least of the leaderboard also for This Sprint is going to be for the whole month of March from March 1st until March 31st. So you're gonna have one full month to do all the missions that you can. Before we close this screen and we paid the rewards for On the second month we're gonna open up more missions for those listening now and those listening to the recording what you see here is not all. -Robert Del Rey: There are more missions. If you want to see the name of the missions, you can find them in the proposal. However, those missions are not available to do yet when we are on the second month another batch of missions is gonna open up. And when we go to the third month another batch of missions is gonna open up so you can do missions for the first month and get rewards you can do missions on the second month and get rewards you can do missions on the third month and get Rewards. Or you can just do one mission for one month and that's it. But we want you to do all the missions that you can. -Robert Del Rey: I was saying not all the missions are available. So what you see now is what you can do. If you don't see the mission, it's because you cannot do it. It's because it's not public yet. But again, if you want to see what the missions look like or what they are about you can go to the proposal to 47 and you can see the name of the mission and maybe with that name you can start thinking about how you're gonna do it if you want to do it, of course. But Really nice Thanks for sharing the numbers Benji the next silly working group call. I believe it's gonna happen in two weeks. It happens. Every other week if I'm not mistaken. + +Benjamin B: They can try to continue on this topic and… + +Robert Del Rey: awesome + +Benjamin B: right now and if you're aware of what the Sierra Network is. Or if you're not it's a storage Network where you can From different so you rent from maybe 30 or more hosts. And if your data gets lost you can replicate it and always have this a great redundancy. Anyways right now they have a hackathon in their Discord Channel. Let me Called the render the hacker phone and basically what this is about is. renting storage from the network and I think that integration with a car share with the very possible so they could earn both a hackathon if they win and they could also earn something from the Sealy mission if they create something. + +Benjamin B: Yeah, I think this is until the end of the month. I don't see it. + +Tyler Wright: I think that's a great idea. + +Robert Del Rey: That's cool. Yeah, so next time idea. + +Tyler Wright: I think just speaking out loud and this is very much off the Record while we're on the record. So anybody listens to this later don't hold me to this, but in terms of Partners like file coin, stored storage a storage. However, they're pronounce SEO RJ currently the team. + +Tyler Wright: Uses our weave for saving videos in the cloud perpetually, so I think figuring out ways to build Integrations with these kinds of projects and see being another one other web free projects. I really love the idea of building on the back of a hackathon that's already happening, but any of those kinds of projects building in Integrations and workflows that use a cash and those Storage Solutions I think those be great addition to the network and things I know that people are asking for. + +Benjamin B: Yeah, so let's write this down. I'll save all the properties. + +Robert Del Rey: I wrote some then already. Thank you so much Tyler, and just to confirm I got it right Do you mean creating missions that encourage building Integrations with other projects like file coin they have? Another storage solution you suggesting that we do hey build this storage Solution on a cache for file coin for 500 akt and put that as a mission on Siri, right? + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, it's like a whole bunch of people that I know are trying to be decentralized as a principle right and to try to figure out workflows and wish they could use things like a cops and other decentralized infrastructure right now. It's very fragmented. So everybody is doing their own thing and building their own one solution. It would be great. Even if those one-on-one solution continue to exist if there was a simpler way. That maybe could be reference and… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: documentation or elsewhere. It's like If you're trying to do this kind of workflow just use a cache and X storage solution, and putting these commands and do this thing, and it'll just be easy, and I think that's what we're trying to do make the user experience easier for folks. I'm an integrate with other projects where we can + +Robert Del Rey: Really? The species open today, I guess. So if you're gonna say something guys use young green. + +Benjamin B: All So from what's Scott said here? I actually think that makes a lot of sense to create some of these workflows to be boundless instead of and rewarding them for silly. What we could do is that we create a mission on silly but we don't write the rewards there. We say that you can get involved with the bounties and you can get involved with this hackathon. but We're not gonna waste any of the budget from the ceiling what do you think about that guys + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. Absolutely. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, it's like a call to action to earn more or try more. + 00:25:00 -Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I said in my calendar. So next call is gonna be on Monday 18th. Let's see how the numbers are gonna look like by then, but I'm pretty stoked to see almost 50 people in the leaderboard In around almost 20 submissions. I guess we're in the right pace. Honestly. Go ahead Benji. -Benjamin B: Yeah, I just wanted to say that the 18th. I will just barely have set foot in the US for the Nvidia event. So I may to attend. I'm not sure how the shadow will look there. But either way I will help compile the numbers and everything so that you can go through everything. -Robert Del Rey: That's good, Thanks for the heads Really nice. That's the themedia GTC event, right? -Benjamin B: Yes. -Robert Del Rey: Awesome. -Robert Del Rey: we have a mission about at 10:00 one event that I cash is attending and you take a picture with their cash team. You post that picture on social media and you could earn some akt. That mission it's not public yet. But I'm curious do you believe we should open it up? Because we have that event happening and also on March we have. Cocoin There is qvcon happening as well. So do you think we should take advantage of those events happening or we should wait for the coming months and opening up the mission by them? -Benjamin B: Yeah, I think we can have it for almost all events. We just barely missed if Denver we would have two days for that one. And I don't think Nvidia GTC one is worth it because it's not a crypto event, so I don't really think. A course people will go there. I'm there with two members of the core team. But besides that I'm guessing there will be zero a coach participants, but I might -Robert Del Rey: All even if you take a picture with you, it's gonna count us as a cash team. Don't you say -Benjamin B: I mean there will be overclocked people so -Robert Del Rey: perhaps -Robert Del Rey: I'm not think about that. The good thing is that in case we Open up the mission. We're going to post it on Telegram and discourse. So people can be on the loop about that the really man, really cool. I wasn't aware you were going maybe you told me but I just forgot so good luck over there. And I guess that's great to jump on to the next topic on the agenda, which is the social media outreach and the social media posting and on Friday when the proposal passed I start bming good contacts. I have in the cosmos ecosystem. so we can get their support either by liking the tweet retweeting and sharing in their communities. I got a few people to respond, but I noticed that more than half couldn't respond because they were at eat Denver. It's a big event. -Robert Del Rey: And people are busy. So what I did is that when I noticed more than 10 people responding that they couldn't see it now because they were at East Denver. I just stopped with the Outreach and I will continue This week around Wednesday. I will start again outreaching to people. In the meantime, I will continue posting. I got some Tweets in draft that they will be posted automatically also a few scheduled messages on telegram. So to remind people I think also that the more we remind people that this is available and that this is running the better for this campaign because sometimes yeah, we can say hey this is just started and the hype of the first day people are gonna see the missions whatever but next week, they're gonna forget if we don't -Robert Del Rey: actively tell them that this is available and that this is for them. So that's why I'm putting this emphasis in this social media campaign as a social media, but it goes beyond social media because I also gonna post on telegram on this score and even WhatsApp that I have other crypto groups there too. Yeah, people are still use WhatsApp. so yeah, that's what I have for the Outreach campaign. I got a call with someone on Thursday to see if we can do a campaign together. Let's see how that's gonna look like. We are in the idealization phase now. and for Joe + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, that makes sense to me. + +Scott Hewitson: yeah, I think I mean,… + +Benjamin B: Let's continue that often. + +Scott Hewitson: I know everyone's got a bunch of great ideas, not shooting any down, but I think if we stay within the scope of zilly zealy for now, I like all those ideas like we've got the Bounty funds and something that I'm trying to I want to happen more in 2024 is as cigs and working groups. they have ideas. It's like this would be cool and it's a small effort. It's like let's throw it up as a bounty. So I want people like the groups to be coming up with Bounty ideas and stuff. So it's all good stuff in my mind. + +Benjamin B: Let me jump back into what I was talking about earlier. I was talking about some of the missions. I was thinking of and the third mission is that I think that we could have more detailed mission on what it means to be a provider so we could have a mission for creating a provider. Maybe we should have specs as a requirement Maybe. a GPU and not only the specs but of course, let's Force some uptime as well. We didn't do this last time and we had to reward someone who had it up for probably a few minutes. + +Benjamin B: the fourth mission is kind of similar to what I was. I started mission to the validator one including this one already and I was thinking that maybe we should reward users and the guide them to the GitHub discussions. I think the more people were getting involved there and if they were to create research posts on GitHub discussions or getting engaged in a lot of discussions I think that we should be able to reward that as a mission. The last one that I was thinking of is creating a well edited short videos that shows either how to deploy a specific topics maybe react apps or python products to a coach. or + +Benjamin B: showing how to just deploy dockering much in the course. I think that if you were to Get a short video out that's well edited and shows how to use a coach the full process in a minute or two. I think this would be really valuable and if we're lucky a lot of people could see that. And that could be some great marketing. and so for my ideas + +Robert Del Rey: appreciation brother + +Robert Del Rey: you cannot cover a lot of different missions that we can start playing with. This is good stuff, man. Thank you so much. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, I love all those ideas and they're very specific and really meant Focus. the GitHub discussions idea while I like my only hesitation is now we're just incentivizing people to just leave comments where maybe they wouldn't be inclined to have such a strong opinion before and now we're just for the sake of money to just putting something up there. That's my only hesitation with incentivizing comments. All the other ideas. I think are great. The only thing that I would add is for the provider side if we can get Folks at least think about IP least it's a person's storage. I know that those are underutilized features on the network for providers set up. So I just want to add that but I think those ideas are great. I love the video ideas as well. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, me too. I also like that providers Mission specifically we focus more on having developers and builds done in this pilot, but I guess we can expand and have providers missions. Like they say provide this amount of resources or stay up for this amount of days. I guess those will be good missions, too. + +Robert Del Rey: and I believe Tyler we agree on the GitHub discussions participations. I guess it's good to have those missions in case people want some extra XP points, but we shouldn't attach akt rewards to those kind of missions and it's the same for retweeting Missions following inviting friends those missions. I mean, it's nice you can do them, right but they shouldn't pay you akt because then as soon as we run out of we progress stop doing those things. + 00:30:00 -Robert Del Rey: Let's see if we can come up with that Twitter spaces in a month. when we're about to close the March Sprint. We can do that Twitter space to see if we can get a few more people doing the missions before the month of March is closed on Sealy. And I also think that can be beneficial for both. because not everybody is on a cash Discord sadly. Some people like to get their info from Twitter. So, yeah, I guess it's gonna be beneficial for both parties. Again, we want as many people as we can get and since the proposal pass now the job is bring those developers as we promise in that proposal. 19th 22nd March doesn't work for me anyways. -Robert Del Rey: yeah. Yeah Benjamin you are at GTC Nvidia. You can still take some pictures and share them in the inside. I really want to see how a non crypto event look like. But that's what I had to say about the campaign Outreach and social media post. I'm gonna say this in the call. I'm reaching some people from some projects as specifically because they also have Sealy. So I'm thinking how we can have a joint campaign something like go to this community Sealy and they get a price in the other community or if you're coming from this other community to this community how we can reward those people. -Robert Del Rey: So yeah, just an idea trying to see again how we can get as many people as we can here. I'm not too stressed about it though because again We can try to bring a thousand people. But if none of them do submissions, it's the same as we do nothing, but I still need to bring the people in so they can do the missions. I guess what remains to think about is how we gonna motivate more people to do the missions. We have the tweets for that. We're going to have tutorial videos for that. So people know how they can go around this. And more to come again. I don't want to get too far ahead this campaign. -Robert Del Rey: Isn't more than a week all it's still super fresh out of the oven. So I guess we're gonna give time to time also, but don't stop working. We got to work a lot to make this happen now Rodrigo your turn Thanks for jumping in. -Rodrigo Rochin: And I was gonna say that Ready to help out with the tweets and marketing to bring more people on board. And just let me know how to help them. and raise up Because yeah,… -Robert Del Rey: appreciation and -Rodrigo Rochin: I know you're gonna I mean like you said, I mean, it's not many people commissions and we don't get new deaths or new users. it's like on the program doesn't do much but I said before it looks like there's more motivation and then even in telegram people are also asking about it. so I think it will work just That promoted. -Robert Del Rey: Yeah. -Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I'm in the domain me so happy honestly because unexpected. Let's see how we can capitalize on that how we can go ahead and make sure those people participate I guess that is what I'm gonna be thinking throughout the day and again Rodrigo. Thank you for your support if you see one question in the chat, and I have a respond. And you want to help us out with that feel free to do so if you have any doubts my DMs are always open for you and that to Savage escimen, that what else about sharing the tweets. -Rodrigo Rochin: It's easy now.. -Robert Del Rey: What I'm gonna do is that each time that I post a tweet. I will go ahead and publish it in the city Channel and also the Insiders chat so we can get the support all the super weekend in amplifying these Also, we got sack Tyler told me that in case we need amplify from the cash to it just to mention sac and he will help us out. so yeah, I guess we're super ready to make this a super success more than the pilot. I don't know how you guys feel about it. Go ahead brother. + +Robert Del Rey: Go ahead and you? + +Benjamin B: first of all, I want to say that I agree with what Tyler says I think that comments could be created even though they don't have an opinion. I think that posts could still make sense. But even then people could just try to find something very minor that doesn't really affect anything.'re so some pros and cons to this one. We could also have it be attached to the + +Benjamin B: support issues But I'm not quite sure. For what you said there at the end Robert. I think that it could actually make sense to have those invites payout Equity. not only if their friend were to actually complete submission. I'm not sure if this can be tracked but if you can invite people and get akt it works until it doesn't kind of like yourself, but it's also a great way to get more people involved. Now. We have 20 people if I remember correctly. + +Benjamin B: if those 20 people were to get another 10 people. That would be a great difference. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks, I love to work on this week. Thank you for dropping those ideas guys. I guess I have enough material now to expand and reassure again. not think of some I already have the mission's ideas, I will just shape them up in a way that you can see them as missions on ceiling and then we'll send that and go from there. But yeah, I will focus on three areas. + +Robert Del Rey: In not any particular order, but just three areas for the new nations. I want to focus on network Integrations and tools missions like Tyler was saying if we can make people build Solutions on a cash that they other people can use that's great for the network validators And providers missions. Go ahead Tyler. So your head? + +Tyler Wright: so, yeah, the only thing that I'll add is I think can you hear me? + +Robert Del Rey: Yes. Yes sir. + +Tyler Wright: okay, I was just gonna say I think both Benjamin and… + +Robert Del Rey: Goodies are clear. + +Tyler Wright: Huey said that my idea about Integrations with stupid for zealy and it's better use for the bounties and they said that I should stop talking and I'm an idiot and I think that we need to focus our time on the Provider missions as well as the video and something the ideas that Benjamin so you don't have as much. To do that again. I think they said that it was an idea. They're trying to this pity me and say all right. This is a decent idea, but we'll have to use that for Bounty. So just we can focus on the provided Missions at Benjamin outlined and then yes and also the videos of how to deploy or dockerize something. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay. Thanks that thanks for that. + +Scott Hewitson: It's Tyler. You matter don't let any of us tell you you don't you matter. Okay? + +Scott Hewitson: And we love your ideas. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you so much guys, I'm pretty sure that maybe we heard the same words, but we understand something different. I didn't get but they were saying that your ideas were stupid tighter, but thank you for saying that. + +Robert Del Rey: No, It's fine. Let me rewrite that again then. and the content creation missions like creating short videos about I guess the I guess Benjamin. I'm going to send you some messages in the DM so I can have more specifics and we can make those missions and we're gonna share those missions in the cash silly so guys can see them and maybe have people to start doing those missions right away. Let's see how we go. But yeah, I might keep you posted throughout the day. I guess a good way to start off the week. Like I said, I got 19 messages requests on Discord. I will go ahead and verify those filtered those. + 00:35:00 -Rodrigo Rochin: I feel the same. from what I saw in telegram. Some people were kind of scared of connecting the wallet to see but Luna or someone already told him that it's safe and Shouldn't be a problem. And I don't think there's any problem there. but if you come up with a tutorial or something should definitely help maybe some people are not aware of in didn't think that most didn't know about it, but in Telegram some people would care about connecting wallets,… -Robert Del Rey: he -Rodrigo Rochin: which I totally understand but If we just tell them that they can create a new one without their funds that they don't want to lose. But again, we'll see he's safe. -Robert Del Rey: It's a thoroughly based concern honestly, and I wish Some things improve on silly but sadly to do what we are doing seal is one of the best platform in the market right now and it's free. There are two other platforms similar to Sealy, but they charge you a few thousands before you start using it. So, yeah, I wish it wasn't like that but that's how it is. But let me tell you I will send some message. Yes, letting people know that they don't have to connect their wallet. They can create a silly account using their Discord or they're not telegram they can use their Discord or… -Rodrigo Rochin: their email -Robert Del Rey: Twitter or an email if they want to so it's not mandatory to connect their wallet. -Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah. -Robert Del Rey: I would go ahead and send that message on telegram because you say It's what I've seen more questions about silly coming in surprisingly. I thought we were gonna have more questions on this course, but yeah, it's on telegram right now. So I guess it's gonna be a good reminder that one here that won't hurt. -Rodrigo Rochin: guessing and also and both to complete the missions, I mean cousin Seeley. We need metamask technique or Wally connect but for the missions, it's pepper and we're using definite The sandbox for most missions or no? -Robert Del Rey: we were talking about that before you jump in. We're gonna specify that people can do the missions on testnet or on mainet and those missions that we do need them to do them on mainnet. We're gonna specify that also. so yeah about your question How did you get paid by Sealy? Is it Sealy? No, silly just have this option that if you want to create an account, you can connect a wallet and you are gonna create an account. -Robert Del Rey: Using that wallet address but it's not silly that pays you how we did it in the last pilot is that we announced We've shared the list of winners just their usernames and we asked them to share the address they want to use to get paid and I manually sent those payments so they don't get paid through silly. There are missions that I can set them up When you're done, please enter your wallet address and you can enter your wallet address and this can be a different address from a wallet address that you might have used to connect to Sealy, but there are not Niche there are no missions like that. I believe we're gonna take the same approach as we did with the pilot. We're gonna let the community know who were the winners. -Robert Del Rey: And I'm gonna wait for the winners to reach out to me so I can pay out the rewards. I believe that's a safer way to go and again silly does not pay. I cannot go ahead and say silly. I have a thousand akt here for this campaign with a campaign is Make sure you pay it. Everybody know it doesn't work like that. We have to manually review the missions and after we run the missions the rewards are not paid out right away. You're gonna see on your profile that you want this mission. But you're gonna get paid when we paid out the reports. But yeah, it will be great if they take care of that but I guess it will be more dangerous also and imagine someone hacks silly. I guess the reason why city has been successful. + +Robert Del Rey: Take the scammers out and keep the legit ones and then go from there. And guys any other common you want to bring up before we're up? + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, I'll see s Okay, those thumbs down. It's because you don't want to end the call now or because you'll have something else to say. + +Scott Hewitson: I don't have anything to say to add. + +Robert Del Rey: That Just You're scared. Thank you again so much for joining. This is the last see me working group called all the year. We started I later over a month ago, and we have these from just a concept in our minds to an actual thing on silly page, but I can tell you there's still a lot to learn a lot to do. but I'm pretty we're going to find a way to make this beneficial not only to a cash but also the people that participate in the missions because many said this and for what would you say baby? This was the biggest part for me was getting people that never tried a cash before getting people. + +Robert Del Rey: Tried on cash for the first time and on top of that air needs to make a tea and I guess that sets them up for a good initial experience when I cash or a good beginning in the cash Community because this people might just join randomly to this silly initiative, but maybe in the course of three four months six months we can have one hell of a contributor that came randomly because of these campaign and they just gonna drop that thought I literacy your hand up Go ahead. What's up? + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, just real quick. again much appreciates Robert your leadership and it's also Benjamin your leadership. I know that as next steps you guys are gonna be talking via direct message to finalize some of the next missions after that. I'm guessing you'll agree on with those missions are post them and then start sharing messages to let people know that over the next couple of weeks. There's around two and based upon the success of the pilot version one going to be extended and then extended I guess through that first week of January, is that the idea and you're all said, have it run until January 5th or something where that we couldn't transform. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, I want to have this ready ASAP… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: because yeah,… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: the plan the planets have it running on to January the 5th. So right now I'm more like pressure to coming up with a few. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe two more missions, Finalizing these rewards pain the required stuff with initial winners. and having that announcement out as soon as possible hey guys, you can still continue doing some missions and earning some extra akt So that is like the order. + +Tyler Wright: amazing + +Robert Del Rey: Awesome guys anything else before we run this up for the day? + +Robert Del Rey: All right. Is not guys remember… + +Scott Hewitson: Think we're good. + +Robert Del Rey: if you have Thanks Ben you thank you all for joining. Thank you for listening the recording also in case you have any other questions thoughts courses are requests feedbacks drop by the cash working group City channel on Discord. You can also send me at the end on this score if you have me on telegram And without being said when I see you guys stay safe for the holidays. Enjoy the time with the family, whatever you're gonna do enjoy it and let's reflect on this year and come stronger for the next year in case we don't talk again. I just letting you know These Guys these are my wishes for you for next year. Okay. + +Tyler Wright: Amen, happy holidays. Yes. + 00:40:00 -Robert Del Rey: In this sense is that they don't have any talking and they're not on a blockchain whatsoever. But when you add that token factor that blockchain factor, that susceptible for people want to hack whatever they want to hack. So I guess having the option it's good for now. Let's see what the future tell us later. We pay out testnet payments. I don't get the question We didn't do any kyc on the pilot I just confirmed the username was the same that we had on the platform and after they confirmed the username. I just paid them but we didn't do any kyc to pay out the rewards. I don't know if that should change since this is an official campaign. -Robert Del Rey: But again, this is not a campaign that is coming from overclock teams or from a cash team. This campaign is coming from the community. So I don't know if we should do kyc. Plus that's a bit expensive. I heard Rodrigo you go first and then we have Benji. -Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, I left a little bit of connection before but yeah, like you said, I think Siri has been successful because they don't operate with pumped or their own boxing. Although when you sign up with wallet connector metamask you do sign a message. I'm not sure that could get hacked here. If it's dangerous in the long run. I also agree that maybe it's not necessary to do kyc for this and it's better to do what you guys have done during the pilot just manually checking everything and sending a cake tea afterwards. -Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, but that looks like some people are scared about connecting metamask, which I totally understand. So just that I will also help to let them know that it's not necessary they can doing with this or email or -Rodrigo Rochin: he said yeah, that's what -Robert Del Rey: Good. Go ahead Benji. -Benjamin B: I wanted to say that as long as you're the one who manages the finances and I don't think we should be once controller went not to use kyc. I think that companies use it for a reason so they can track who they send money to. And if that's not relevant for you, no, I'm not sure how the taxes are in your country and Etc. You don't have to do it but It would be good to have just in case. But as long as it works for you. It works without keyword C adding kyc would also be another security. step so we wouldn't get this money people trying to create multiple accounts to win more Awards and such. -Robert Del Rey: I agree with you gentlemen's there was one instance during the pilot that I was a bit effective on one user because he signed up with an email. And his user on Discord didn't match on silly. so something happened. But how I was able to confirm that I was chatting with the person and that I send the rewards to the person is that I quickly created a mission confirm. You're a person something like that. and I send them the mission Can you do this mission right now? Let me know when you do it and I saw that he did it. And as soon as he did it I was able to confirm that. Okay, this is the person that is in control of this account. -Robert Del Rey: That was the biggest. One that I was concerned I was super unsure about pain that required. But after I confirm his identity I did it I did it. Other than that the other instance that we had abuse was and I say abuse for a lack of a better word because it was an abuse, but with this covered that two different people were using the same. Computer and we had to Benji figure that out. Majestically. It was really if it wasn't for you ji. Totally. I wouldn't have discovered that let's see what people come with for this campaign, but people are always gonna try to take advantage of things so we gotta be on top of that for sure. -00:45:00 -Robert Del Rey: But yeah, I'm not too much worried about the abusing. Honestly. What I'm worried about is getting the people doing the missions, But yeah, that's what I have for today's guys. We will cover the price rebalancing. We're gonna specify The missions that you can do on maintenance and testnets the ones that you can do only on mainnet, we also heard from Benji how many people have joined Seeley how many people have done missions and how many people are getting rewards crazy first weekend and people already getting rewards, which is nice. Thanks Benjamin you for sharing those numbers. Remember the next silly working group call is gonna happen on Monday 18th exactly into weeks from now. -Robert Del Rey: And that this current Sprint ends on March 31st. until then to do all the missions you can during this Sprint. And lastly the messages on social media. We're going to remind people that they don't have to connect their wallet address. They don't. and that if they want to they can create an account only using an email which can be any this score or Twitter And I don't know if I miss anything, but if I did you guys let me know if I didn't miss anything. Thank you for your time So you want to see you right? See you in the group chats. -Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, see you. -Benjamin B: Thank everyone. -Robert Del Rey: Thank you for joining right see you. -Rodrigo Rochin: for hosting -Robert Del Rey: Anytime man, bye-bye. -Rodrigo Rochin: right -Benjamin B: but -Meeting ended after 00:47:36 👋 +Benjamin B: Thank you very much, Robert and everyone. ability + +Robert Del Rey: Happy holidays everybody. + +Scott Hewitson: Have a good one. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you. + +Scott Hewitson: okay by + +Meeting ended after 00:40:20 👋 From 5f6c3dfe802a922fb5d16d40ccf56a241a2929ce Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:54:59 -0400 Subject: [PATCH 3/4] Update 2024-03-04 Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --- wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 index 74f56fc1..0f0acc89 100644 --- a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 +++ b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 @@ -9,8 +9,8 @@ Akash Network - Zealy Working Group (WG) ## Meeting Details Date: Monday, December 18, 2023 Time: 6:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) -Recording https://drive.google.com/file/d/18UUcMaziOlI0VsYI1juMIdyhMEKJDvc2/view?usp=sharing -Transcript https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K4n7XVgGpt76KTWLhFzecSEhohdP2MOM6BM1pA2mItU/edit?usp=sharing +[Recording] +[Transcript](#transcript) ## Attendees From a4d12b9fbfd3b5c17a560fac441b0692b9dd4b7f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 22:42:58 -0400 Subject: [PATCH 4/4] Update 2024-03-04 update date. Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --- wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 | 240 +---------------------------------- 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 237 deletions(-) diff --git a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 index 0f0acc89..12a76098 100644 --- a/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 +++ b/wg-zealy/meetings/2024-03-04 @@ -1,15 +1,16 @@ Akash Network - Zealy Working Group (WG) # Agenda + - Mission prize rebalance - Extra funding - Campaign stats - Social Media outreach and posts ## Meeting Details -Date: Monday, December 18, 2023 +Date: Monday, March 4th, 2024 Time: 6:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) -[Recording] +[Recording]) [Transcript](#transcript) ## Attendees @@ -19,241 +20,6 @@ Benjamin B, Joe Deng, Robert Del Rey, Rodrigo Rochin # **Transcript** -_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ - -Robert Del Rey: Alright guys GM and welcome to the last silly Community call working group of the year. My name is Del Rey. So happy to have join today guys And also we are recording in case people can't join right now. So I was saying before studying they call. Yeah, it seems that people was busy doing the wicked asking questions about the prices. so I guess what we're gonna discuss on the agenda today is the selection or determining the winners for the akt prices. I want to go over that and also here you guys thoughts about Gathering the winners addresses. So basically those two are the main topics. I have a mind. - -Robert Del Rey: and yeah, then we can talk about extending the pilot to which is a whole other story. about Gathering the winners and the addresses thanks to Benji bendy created a script. I just needed to send him a file with all the participants on a cash, silly. and after he run this the script we were able to determine how many people participated? How many missions they did how many XP points they earn and more most importantly how many akt rewards we should send them which is super awesome tool. Thank you so much bendy. You really were the MVP just because of that tool I can tell you that. So let me open up the document. - -Robert Del Rey: I have it in an Excel file in my computer. I don't know. That's another question. Maybe how can we go about publishing this? I believe I publish. One document one link already, but this one doesn't have the addresses people use to sign up and On the document I sent you have a hash. for the user you have the XP points. You have their Discord username that Twitter username and the username they have four ceiling. So the only thing that is not showing up in the link I sent on Friday. It's gonna be the addresses that people used to First login or just add any random address for City because Celio also asking for address - -Robert Del Rey: So yeah, I believe that was a good privacy measure. But yeah in total, There are 20 people that earn akt prices which I believe was super nice big bigger Plus for that. Is gracing it over two weeks we had that amount of participants And also these 20 winners are after being you review the missions because if I understand right there were people that participated but the missions were in good enough to earn the points. At the end we had more people signed up to see than more people that got the rewards and that makes sense. I just believe that in just two weeks. This is a great number to have any people. - -Robert Del Rey: There two that won around 45 akt each and were two people. And after that if you take an average. - -Robert Del Rey: On average everybody want around 20 to 25 AC for the 20 participants. If you take the average now the highest earners 145 and the lowest earners are one just 10 akt which I believe it's also good. I don't know but if you want to go over this and maybe tell me your experience about running the tool getting the winners. - -Robert Del Rey: And yeah, overall, how do you feel about the prices we did? And the missions to earn those prices and maybe you can add some insights about reviewing those missions. Yeah. - -Benjamin B: Yeah, So let me start with The script I created basically just goes through the leaderboard for every user. And they click the linked basically and I'm explaining the money process. So if you go to leaderboard page. You will see all the users there. If you click on user profile there you will see the missions completed. in the script, I don't have any information of the attempted measures only the ones that were reviewed and that passed. so after doing this for each and every user with the script It compiles it to a total number. And to help Robert. I also created it so that - -00:05:00 - -Benjamin B: it showed the individual equity and for the missions, I think that some of the missions were really easy, but - -Benjamin B: We got kind of what we wanted. We wanted to get users to experiment with and we did exactly that so people who never used a coach before were able to create deployments and while they didn't create something of their own they got to Try out the network and experiment. I think that for the extension we should try to have some more goals than just make them experiment. I don't think we should do the same thing. - -Benjamin B: For every part of the pilot, I think we can have some more advanced ones. We could have more rewards etc for the individual Rewards. - -Benjamin B: besides this I think it was only the reviewing part The reviewing of each mission was easy for me because I knew how to look for everything so for them deployments I had to open one link first and then in that link, usually there was a link that led to an active deployment. and if that active deployment was Correct. I let them pass for the screenshots. That was easy. Also, I saw some people installing very old software like the Akash CLI or whatever to say instead of provide your services. So those have to be denied but I still explained what he did wrong and what it had to do. to pass - -Benjamin B: and the only one that was kind of hard was the provided one because we did not really specify. What we wanted the deliveries to be like so some providers quit instantly. and I think all providers that actually set up their provider for even a few minutes were collected by two such as the provider Explorer there, but then I saw some people They went through the freight to wrap installation, but unfortunately, I couldn't let them pass because what they wrote was the screenshot that they showed. Did not show anything detailing about the provider. So it was like - -Benjamin B: the page where they set up the DNS and they did it for the main they didn't even own so. I couldn't really help them. - -Robert Del Rey: That's okay, Thanks for sharing. It wasn't quite experience. I was sending a message this morning and something I was thinking about is. all the - -Robert Del Rey: Learn using ceiling after we kind of started running the pilot and I'm pretty sure that over time we're gonna keep on improving the process and how clear are the missions with the instructions. Because I remember the questions on Discord. I Should this mission go on testnet to distribution go on Main should this Mission stays open for three weeks can I close it right away, right so though those little details I guess it's good that now we have them and we can use those three details to make the missions better and more clear for the future. Thank you so much Benjamin for that. I have nineteen private message request on this score - -00:10:00 - -Robert Del Rey: and the reason why is that I'm guessing is because on Friday I sent the message that we have the winners for the first phase of the city pilot. and to claim the reward they have to send me at the end the winners have to send me a DM. I got 19 requests. So I'm going to filter now wish out of those are a scam request which are legit. After I'm done with those I will go ahead and review the winners list again and see who has sent me any message yet and try to tag them in the public chat in the seal in public hey, thanks for why you haven't sent me a message Send me your message so you can claim your Rewards. - -Robert Del Rey: So yeah, that's one way to do it. But there is another way I'm thinking and is That We could create a mission. It can be called. - -Robert Del Rey: a cash Pilot One winners submit your address and we can create the mission in a way that people can click and submit an address and then We can review those submissions and pay out the rewards space on that. Now you might be asking how can we avoid? - -Robert Del Rey: Not how can we make sure that only the winners to meet their addresses? That's a great question. I guess we can do a condition. Making that the only people that can come complete the missions are the ones that have X amount of points or have done this amount of missions. That way we can make sure that the only people that can do this missions are the one that actually won the - -Robert Del Rey: the equity rewards go ahead and you - -Benjamin B: I don't think there's any point in limiting which people can turn in their akt address if it's not on Sealy because we know which users and one we just don't know their address yet. I think that for next time if it's possible. We should have a mission it's the first mission that you have to do. And they have to create an ATT address and write down that address in that mission, but then once that's done, it's all to complete so they can continue. And if they mess up without it's their own fault, and of course we can try to help but then we should have their address. - -Robert Del Rey: Dude, that's so a smart man. I love it. Thank you so much. I just wrote it down. So if I got it, right basically would be same that the first mission that we have get access to a silly Community. We can add another mission or another field asking them to submit their address beforehand so that way we have their address right away, right or is something we get into that, right? - -Benjamin B: Yeah, I don't think we need to create another one. We could just modify the existing one, but either way works. - -Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I like that one better. Thank you so much. It's simpler and like you say it wouldn't make point to have them I mean to do the condition and try to filter the winners from a scammers because we already have the winners. So it's gonna be a question of matching who is writing and The user is writing us to us. So yeah, Okay, so I guess we can do that. All right, guys, do you have any questions or comments so far before I move on to the next topic I have online. - -Scott Hewitson: No, sounds good to me. - -Robert Del Rey: highest court assignment, thanks for jumping - -Scott Hewitson: All right. Yeah. I was a little late. My daughter was a little unruly this morning, so I had to deal with that, but I'm here. - -Robert Del Rey: New Good Men. Thanks for young Penny. I don't know if I heard correctly, but are you sick. Also, I'm having some weather sick. I don't know. - -00:15:00 - -Scott Hewitson: I'm sick, every other week just because of the stuff that my daughter brings home. But now I'm okay. I'm on the mend. - -Robert Del Rey: Got him, and thank you. All right. - -Robert Del Rey: Okay, so up next. bangi And the rest of course. I want to expand on what other missions can we bring to the table? when you were saying in the beginning that the missions were great because there were simple enough to make people try to cash even people that haven't done a cash. Ever they did it for the first time and were able to do the missions and earn some Rewards. So now I guess the question is how can we level up that? How can we raise the bar? How can we give them people another challenge they feel challenge enough to do it, but don't feel like a skirt to give it a shot, right? - -Robert Del Rey: So, yeah, I guess I'm gonna open the station now what other kind of missions could we bring to the table to keep the ball rolling I guess. - -Robert Del Rey: I like to brainstorm but for now because since we're extending the pilot, I honestly don't have any idea. I try on Saturday coming up with ideas for New Missions for extending the pilot, but I couldn't come with new challenges I guess we can do the same similar missions that we had but I like to bring different missions. But when you have his hand up, let's see what he can say about that. Go ahead and - -Benjamin B: So first of all, I think that we should continue with the existing once we could modify them a little bit. and use the previous budget for that if we're allowed for the extension. I also think that we should have New Missions. I want this to be more specialized. I want to be able to get the community members that are really active Or I really engaged so. The first mission that I was thinking of I would write all of this in the shot later. includes rating in a culture up From scratch so you have a project on your PC? You created documents. Upload it create L unemployed to my coach. Right now we have only made them deployed templates. - -Benjamin B: then for the second mission, I'm thinking that this is a really hard Mission by the way, but - -Benjamin B: but some validators are not really active. So when you're wondering if it's possible to Try to create a mission that Create a new validator and make the top 100 sets. or at least create a new validator and be active on the GitHub discussions page. - -Benjamin B: This one still needs more refining because a lot of Tyler go ahead. - -Tyler Wright: I'd like this idea. I think something that Scott and I are trying to do is make sure that all the validators are participating more. So I think a lot of we're meeting with a number of folks and just connecting with folks because that's relationships that previously we weren't owning and managing. So as we move into New Year, I think that's going to happen. I don't and I think that might be a mission that might be too soon for right now. I also think that the part about getting them into active sets. It's really just down to Dallas and sense. And so I'm not sure that's a mission. I really like the first couple of missions, but only thing I was going to add it. I was wondering if there's a possibility to do an Integrations mission that might be a little more open-ended and be something like worth $300 to 500 akt and it's just - -Tyler Wright: basically I can small hackathon, figure out an integration into a storage solution, that other users can use or something like that. That's other people can benefit from and maybe somebody from the community might be having interest in doing over the holiday. - -00:20:00 - -Benjamin B: They can try to continue on this topic and… - -Robert Del Rey: awesome - -Benjamin B: right now and if you're aware of what the Sierra Network is. Or if you're not it's a storage Network where you can From different so you rent from maybe 30 or more hosts. And if your data gets lost you can replicate it and always have this a great redundancy. Anyways right now they have a hackathon in their Discord Channel. Let me Called the render the hacker phone and basically what this is about is. renting storage from the network and I think that integration with a car share with the very possible so they could earn both a hackathon if they win and they could also earn something from the Sealy mission if they create something. - -Benjamin B: Yeah, I think this is until the end of the month. I don't see it. - -Tyler Wright: I think that's a great idea. - -Robert Del Rey: That's cool. Yeah, so next time idea. - -Tyler Wright: I think just speaking out loud and this is very much off the Record while we're on the record. So anybody listens to this later don't hold me to this, but in terms of Partners like file coin, stored storage a storage. However, they're pronounce SEO RJ currently the team. - -Tyler Wright: Uses our weave for saving videos in the cloud perpetually, so I think figuring out ways to build Integrations with these kinds of projects and see being another one other web free projects. I really love the idea of building on the back of a hackathon that's already happening, but any of those kinds of projects building in Integrations and workflows that use a cash and those Storage Solutions I think those be great addition to the network and things I know that people are asking for. - -Benjamin B: Yeah, so let's write this down. I'll save all the properties. - -Robert Del Rey: I wrote some then already. Thank you so much Tyler, and just to confirm I got it right Do you mean creating missions that encourage building Integrations with other projects like file coin they have? Another storage solution you suggesting that we do hey build this storage Solution on a cache for file coin for 500 akt and put that as a mission on Siri, right? - -Tyler Wright: Yeah, it's like a whole bunch of people that I know are trying to be decentralized as a principle right and to try to figure out workflows and wish they could use things like a cops and other decentralized infrastructure right now. It's very fragmented. So everybody is doing their own thing and building their own one solution. It would be great. Even if those one-on-one solution continue to exist if there was a simpler way. That maybe could be reference and… - -Robert Del Rey: - -Tyler Wright: documentation or elsewhere. It's like If you're trying to do this kind of workflow just use a cache and X storage solution, and putting these commands and do this thing, and it'll just be easy, and I think that's what we're trying to do make the user experience easier for folks. I'm an integrate with other projects where we can - -Robert Del Rey: Really? The species open today, I guess. So if you're gonna say something guys use young green. - -Benjamin B: All So from what's Scott said here? I actually think that makes a lot of sense to create some of these workflows to be boundless instead of and rewarding them for silly. What we could do is that we create a mission on silly but we don't write the rewards there. We say that you can get involved with the bounties and you can get involved with this hackathon. but We're not gonna waste any of the budget from the ceiling what do you think about that guys - -Robert Del Rey: Yeah. Absolutely. - -Scott Hewitson: Yeah, it's like a call to action to earn more or try more. - -00:25:00 - -Tyler Wright: Yeah, that makes sense to me. - -Scott Hewitson: yeah, I think I mean,… - -Benjamin B: Let's continue that often. - -Scott Hewitson: I know everyone's got a bunch of great ideas, not shooting any down, but I think if we stay within the scope of zilly zealy for now, I like all those ideas like we've got the Bounty funds and something that I'm trying to I want to happen more in 2024 is as cigs and working groups. they have ideas. It's like this would be cool and it's a small effort. It's like let's throw it up as a bounty. So I want people like the groups to be coming up with Bounty ideas and stuff. So it's all good stuff in my mind. - -Benjamin B: Let me jump back into what I was talking about earlier. I was talking about some of the missions. I was thinking of and the third mission is that I think that we could have more detailed mission on what it means to be a provider so we could have a mission for creating a provider. Maybe we should have specs as a requirement Maybe. a GPU and not only the specs but of course, let's Force some uptime as well. We didn't do this last time and we had to reward someone who had it up for probably a few minutes. - -Benjamin B: the fourth mission is kind of similar to what I was. I started mission to the validator one including this one already and I was thinking that maybe we should reward users and the guide them to the GitHub discussions. I think the more people were getting involved there and if they were to create research posts on GitHub discussions or getting engaged in a lot of discussions I think that we should be able to reward that as a mission. The last one that I was thinking of is creating a well edited short videos that shows either how to deploy a specific topics maybe react apps or python products to a coach. or - -Benjamin B: showing how to just deploy dockering much in the course. I think that if you were to Get a short video out that's well edited and shows how to use a coach the full process in a minute or two. I think this would be really valuable and if we're lucky a lot of people could see that. And that could be some great marketing. and so for my ideas - -Robert Del Rey: appreciation brother - -Robert Del Rey: you cannot cover a lot of different missions that we can start playing with. This is good stuff, man. Thank you so much. - -Tyler Wright: Yes, I love all those ideas and they're very specific and really meant Focus. the GitHub discussions idea while I like my only hesitation is now we're just incentivizing people to just leave comments where maybe they wouldn't be inclined to have such a strong opinion before and now we're just for the sake of money to just putting something up there. That's my only hesitation with incentivizing comments. All the other ideas. I think are great. The only thing that I would add is for the provider side if we can get Folks at least think about IP least it's a person's storage. I know that those are underutilized features on the network for providers set up. So I just want to add that but I think those ideas are great. I love the video ideas as well. - -Robert Del Rey: Yeah, me too. I also like that providers Mission specifically we focus more on having developers and builds done in this pilot, but I guess we can expand and have providers missions. Like they say provide this amount of resources or stay up for this amount of days. I guess those will be good missions, too. - -Robert Del Rey: and I believe Tyler we agree on the GitHub discussions participations. I guess it's good to have those missions in case people want some extra XP points, but we shouldn't attach akt rewards to those kind of missions and it's the same for retweeting Missions following inviting friends those missions. I mean, it's nice you can do them, right but they shouldn't pay you akt because then as soon as we run out of we progress stop doing those things. - -00:30:00 - -Robert Del Rey: Go ahead and you? - -Benjamin B: first of all, I want to say that I agree with what Tyler says I think that comments could be created even though they don't have an opinion. I think that posts could still make sense. But even then people could just try to find something very minor that doesn't really affect anything.'re so some pros and cons to this one. We could also have it be attached to the - -Benjamin B: support issues But I'm not quite sure. For what you said there at the end Robert. I think that it could actually make sense to have those invites payout Equity. not only if their friend were to actually complete submission. I'm not sure if this can be tracked but if you can invite people and get akt it works until it doesn't kind of like yourself, but it's also a great way to get more people involved. Now. We have 20 people if I remember correctly. - -Benjamin B: if those 20 people were to get another 10 people. That would be a great difference. - -Robert Del Rey: Thanks, I love to work on this week. Thank you for dropping those ideas guys. I guess I have enough material now to expand and reassure again. not think of some I already have the mission's ideas, I will just shape them up in a way that you can see them as missions on ceiling and then we'll send that and go from there. But yeah, I will focus on three areas. - -Robert Del Rey: In not any particular order, but just three areas for the new nations. I want to focus on network Integrations and tools missions like Tyler was saying if we can make people build Solutions on a cash that they other people can use that's great for the network validators And providers missions. Go ahead Tyler. So your head? - -Tyler Wright: so, yeah, the only thing that I'll add is I think can you hear me? - -Robert Del Rey: Yes. Yes sir. - -Tyler Wright: okay, I was just gonna say I think both Benjamin and… - -Robert Del Rey: Goodies are clear. - -Tyler Wright: Huey said that my idea about Integrations with stupid for zealy and it's better use for the bounties and they said that I should stop talking and I'm an idiot and I think that we need to focus our time on the Provider missions as well as the video and something the ideas that Benjamin so you don't have as much. To do that again. I think they said that it was an idea. They're trying to this pity me and say all right. This is a decent idea, but we'll have to use that for Bounty. So just we can focus on the provided Missions at Benjamin outlined and then yes and also the videos of how to deploy or dockerize something. - -Robert Del Rey: Okay. Thanks that thanks for that. - -Scott Hewitson: It's Tyler. You matter don't let any of us tell you you don't you matter. Okay? - -Scott Hewitson: And we love your ideas. - -Robert Del Rey: Thank you so much guys, I'm pretty sure that maybe we heard the same words, but we understand something different. I didn't get but they were saying that your ideas were stupid tighter, but thank you for saying that. - -Robert Del Rey: No, It's fine. Let me rewrite that again then. and the content creation missions like creating short videos about I guess the I guess Benjamin. I'm going to send you some messages in the DM so I can have more specifics and we can make those missions and we're gonna share those missions in the cash silly so guys can see them and maybe have people to start doing those missions right away. Let's see how we go. But yeah, I might keep you posted throughout the day. I guess a good way to start off the week. Like I said, I got 19 messages requests on Discord. I will go ahead and verify those filtered those. - -00:35:00 - -Robert Del Rey: Take the scammers out and keep the legit ones and then go from there. And guys any other common you want to bring up before we're up? - -Robert Del Rey: Okay, I'll see s Okay, those thumbs down. It's because you don't want to end the call now or because you'll have something else to say. - -Scott Hewitson: I don't have anything to say to add. - -Robert Del Rey: That Just You're scared. Thank you again so much for joining. This is the last see me working group called all the year. We started I later over a month ago, and we have these from just a concept in our minds to an actual thing on silly page, but I can tell you there's still a lot to learn a lot to do. but I'm pretty we're going to find a way to make this beneficial not only to a cash but also the people that participate in the missions because many said this and for what would you say baby? This was the biggest part for me was getting people that never tried a cash before getting people. - -Robert Del Rey: Tried on cash for the first time and on top of that air needs to make a tea and I guess that sets them up for a good initial experience when I cash or a good beginning in the cash Community because this people might just join randomly to this silly initiative, but maybe in the course of three four months six months we can have one hell of a contributor that came randomly because of these campaign and they just gonna drop that thought I literacy your hand up Go ahead. What's up? - -Tyler Wright: Yeah, just real quick. again much appreciates Robert your leadership and it's also Benjamin your leadership. I know that as next steps you guys are gonna be talking via direct message to finalize some of the next missions after that. I'm guessing you'll agree on with those missions are post them and then start sharing messages to let people know that over the next couple of weeks. There's around two and based upon the success of the pilot version one going to be extended and then extended I guess through that first week of January, is that the idea and you're all said, have it run until January 5th or something where that we couldn't transform. - -Robert Del Rey: Yes, I want to have this ready ASAP… - -Tyler Wright: Okay. - -Robert Del Rey: because yeah,… - -Tyler Wright: Okay. - -Robert Del Rey: the plan the planets have it running on to January the 5th. So right now I'm more like pressure to coming up with a few. - -Tyler Wright: Perfect. - -Robert Del Rey: Maybe two more missions, Finalizing these rewards pain the required stuff with initial winners. and having that announcement out as soon as possible hey guys, you can still continue doing some missions and earning some extra akt So that is like the order. - -Tyler Wright: amazing - -Robert Del Rey: Awesome guys anything else before we run this up for the day? - -Robert Del Rey: All right. Is not guys remember… - -Scott Hewitson: Think we're good. - -Robert Del Rey: if you have Thanks Ben you thank you all for joining. Thank you for listening the recording also in case you have any other questions thoughts courses are requests feedbacks drop by the cash working group City channel on Discord. You can also send me at the end on this score if you have me on telegram And without being said when I see you guys stay safe for the holidays. Enjoy the time with the family, whatever you're gonna do enjoy it and let's reflect on this year and come stronger for the next year in case we don't talk again. I just letting you know These Guys these are my wishes for you for next year. Okay. - -Tyler Wright: Amen, happy holidays. Yes. - -00:40:00 - -Benjamin B: Thank you very much, Robert and everyone. ability - -Robert Del Rey: Happy holidays everybody. - -Scott Hewitson: Have a good one. - -Robert Del Rey: Thank you. -Scott Hewitson: okay by -Meeting ended after 00:40:20 👋