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Steering Committee - Meeting #21 + +## Agenda +- Address community feedback and grievances. +- Review updates to project boards. +- Share updates on recent and upcoming events. +- Discuss progress on developer onboarding initiatives and YouTube content. +- Provide updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade and related technical developments. +- Review and discuss active governance proposals. +- Open floor for additional topics or feedback. + +## Meeting Details + +- Date: Thursday, October 31st, 2024 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://h5r73bah365pqfr4x62x5sdut5px4wpprsnd6lu2hcej3x42jkxa.arweave.net/P2P9hAffuvgWPL-1fsh0n19-We-Mmj8umjiInd-aSq4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Committee + +- Anil Murty, Overclock Labs +- Artur Troian, Overclock Labs +- Greg Osuri, Overclock Labs +- Scott Caruthers, Overclock Labs + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Adam Wozney +- Amanda Keay +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- Anil Murty +- Artur Troian +- Cheng Wang +- Damir Simpovic +- Ed Prado +- Fico Calderon +- Garrett Minks +- Joao Luna +- Juan Pablo Arce +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodri R +- Scott Carruthers +- Scott Hewitson +- Zach Horn +- Zeke Ezagui + +## Meeting Notes + +### Community Feedback +- Tyler Wright opened the floor for feedback and grievances from the community. +- Participants were reminded to share their input during meetings or reach out to core team members or insiders between sessions. +- Focus on making SIG operations and community contributions more transparent and accessible. + +### Project Boards Review +- Tyler emphasized the importance of the public-facing project boards. +- Boards track initiatives across product engineering and marketing, offering a transparent view of Akash’s ongoing efforts. +- Team members traveling for events have been contributing to updates despite logistical challenges. + +### Event Updates +- Amanda Keay provided updates on recent and upcoming events: + - **Permissionless Conference** in Salt Lake City: + - Akash team had speaking engagements and hosted a successful booth. + - Generated high-quality leads, particularly from AI developers, comparable to engagement levels at Token2049. + - **Cosmoverse in Dubai**: + - Akash led the AI track, hosted an AI-focused afterparty with over 300 attendees, and secured prominent branding. + - Team members participated in panels, discussions, and networking activities. + - **NeurIPS 2024** in Vancouver: + - Plans include a booth, speaking engagements, and workshops at a nearby venue, focusing on Akash's AI positioning. + - Attendees will have access to Akash Compute credits and networking opportunities. + - **ETH Denver 2025** preparations are underway, with plans to continue building Akash’s presence in the Web3 space. + +### Developer Onboarding and YouTube Content +- **Zealy Campaign**: + - Sprint 3 of the second campaign completed, with rewards distribution scheduled. + - A new onboarding process is being developed, focusing on guiding developers through a structured user journey from basic engagement to advanced contributions. + - Best campaign submissions, including guides and designs, will be compiled and shared. +- **YouTube Content**: + - Steering Committee meeting recordings are being prepared for upload. + - Upcoming focus will be on creating technical tutorials for deployments, Akash Console features, and GitHub contributions. + +### Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade and Technical Updates +- Artur Troian provided updates on technical progress: + - The initial testnet for Cosmos SDK 47 is live, focusing on stability before expanding participation. + - Ongoing provider-side enhancements for Akash Console 2.0 include contributions from the community. + - Improvements to inventory exporter functionality were completed with community support. + +### Active Governance Proposals +- **[Rair Protocol Proposal](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/709)**: + - Garrett Minks and Ed Prado presented the integration of Akash as a decentralized compute layer for deploying DApps. + - The goal is to move away from centralized solutions like GCP and offer Web3-native compute options. + - Proposal outlines a phased approach, starting with configuration migration and progressing to full feature parity with GCP-based setups. + - Community members were encouraged to review the proposal and provide feedback on GitHub. +### **[Provider Incentives Pilot 2 (PIP-02)](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/696)** +- Presented by Cheng Wang: + - PIP-02 doubles the funding size from the previous pilot to expand GPU capacity and address rising demand. + - GPU models, including A100s, RTX 4090s, and future-ready 5090s, were detailed in allocation plans. + - Zeke Ezagui raised questions about: + - Flexibility in upgrading to 5090 GPUs when available. Anil clarified that allocations would be reviewed case-by-case to accommodate next-generation hardware while balancing commitments to current GPUs. + - The inclusion process for community providers in the incentive program. Cheng and Anil confirmed a manual vetting process based on outlined criteria, emphasizing fairness and adherence to quality and availability standards. + - The need for clear instructions for community providers to apply. Tyler committed to sharing detailed steps and ensuring community awareness. + - Anil reiterated that existing customer workloads would guide allocation decisions, with options to transition customers to upgraded hardware where feasible. + +### [Governance Proposal Best Practices](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/170) +- Tyler Wright highlighted updates to governance proposal guidelines: + - New guidelines aim to streamline the process for submitting and reviewing proposals. + - Community members were encouraged to refer to these guidelines for leveraging the community pool effectively. + +### Open Floor Discussions +- Tyler encouraged participants to raise any additional topics or questions. +- Updates on SIG meetings and regular working groups were shared, including: + - Zealy meetings, focusing on developer onboarding. + - Akash YouTube working group, prioritizing technical content development. + - SIG chain meetings to discuss the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. + - SIG provider discussions on ongoing efforts related to Akash Console 2.0. + +## Action Items +- Tyler Wright will continue gathering feedback and ensuring transparency in SIG operations. +- Amanda Keay will finalize event plans for NeurIPS 2024 and ETH Denver 2025. +- Robert Del Rey will complete Zealy rewards distribution and redesign the onboarding process for developers. +- Artur Troian will stabilize and expand testnet participation for the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. +- Community members are encouraged to review and provide feedback on the Rair Protocol proposal and vote on PIP-02. +- Governance proposal updates and best practices will be shared to guide the community on effective use of the community pool. +- Announcements regarding SIG working group schedules and opportunities for engagement will be shared via Discord and GitHub. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to the Akash steering committee. It is October 31st, 2024. during these monthly meetings, the steering committee gets together talks about everything that's happened over the course of that month in terms of SIGs, working groups and beyond. we follow a typical agenda which I will move over to now. But again, if anybody has any specific items that they want to discuss as a part of steering committee, again, please drop them in. We usually try to have these things in advance because oftent times we have a full plate of agenda items. But again, if there's anything specific that anybody wants feel free to drop it in here now. All right. Again, you can look at notes from the past meetings here. + +Tyler Wright: notes, transcripts, recordings for all the steering committees since January 2023 are available here. Again, one of the things we start off by doing is reviewing, discussing, and addressing any community feedback, grievances, or conflicts. This could be anything you see in SIG's working group structure. Anything that you think can be improved on, feel free to raise your hand and we can discuss those things right now. Cool. again, if anybody sees anything between meetings, feel free to reach out to myself or any member of the core team, insiders, etc., and we can again continue to u improve the process, make it easier for folks to get involved, etc. All right, continuing one of the big items that we discussed during these, steering committee calls is, the project boards. + +Tyler Wright: again, these are transparent public facing boards that anybody from the community can kind of track what's going on across community marketing initiatives as well as product and engineering. you can see our road map and these items are discussed at steering committee as well as other SIGs and working groups and continually updated by members of the core team and other members of the community that are working on specific efforts. So if you're ever interested in what's on the future of the road map across again product and engineering, again, please look out. This is always constantly being worked on and constantly being updated. I know some members of our community and marketing team have been working hard and have been on the road over the last month. and it's just been again a tireless amount of work that's been done. + +Amanda Keay: + +Tyler Wright: I do want to kick it off by handing it over to Amanda to just talk a little bit about some of the events that have gone on over the last month, including Cosmoverse and others, as well as a look forward to again some of the events that are on the horizon. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah, thanks Tyler. + +Amanda Keay: So about a month ago, I'll start three of us from the core team were able to go to permissionless in Salt Lake City. We had a couple different speaking engagements and an official side event during that week. it went really well. I felt like the conference had a lot of really high quality people that came by, a lot of specifically AI developers that were interested in talking with us. + +Amanda Keay: Zach and I were manning the booth and I think as far as quality leads and the amount of leads, it was up there with the amount total that we got altogether going to token. So, it was a really good success for us there. and then we just a week or so ago got back from Cosmoverse in Dubai. That event was really good. a three-day event. Greg, we actually led the AI track at Cosmoverse. So, we were able to have our branding front and center as well as multiple speaking opportunities by both Greg, Anneil, and Zach. So, that was really awesome. We also hosted a AI afterparty following our AI track day just right next door. we had 300 plus attendees show up. + +Amanda Keay: So we were able to really flex our branding there and just prove that Akos branding is as strong as it is right now. So that was really great. Looking forward to the next month. We don't have any travel per se in November. A few hackathons that we might be visiting this month but then we're really focusing our efforts on Nurups which is in Vancouver this year from the dates November through the 14th. So Akos will be doing a larger booth at the main event as well as Greg got accepted to be a speaker on the main stage and we are planning on doing a social house just right down the road a really cool venue used to be an old bank so we have that space for two days we're going to have some workshops some special speakers we're finalizing that now as well as just a space for people to come and network and talk and if they wanted to hack they can have + + +### 00:05:00 + +Amanda Keay: Akos compute that we're going to give credits for and just kind of build our branding in the more AI space. looking forward to that doing a lot of planning. so that is taking a lot of time right now and I think that will put us through to the end of the year and then already honestly working on ETH Denver events which is in February. So things are moving rather quickly and it's exciting. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, everybody that's been involved in all those events over the last month. And as we look forward, as a reminder again, there's been a lot of discussion in GitHub around Q4 proposal and now there's a vote on chain. So, if you have the ability to vote, please do so. as we continue to again, fine-tune and, continue to build the brand that's already very strong. So, much appreciate everyone's time. Does anyone have any questions for Amanda about anything events related? I know she has to head out very soon to some other obligations. Cool. All right. + +Tyler Wright: we talked about it in again a weekly working group around the website and docs. again there's folks that contribute to console. If you are contributing in any way via the states and working group structure please make your contributions known via comments inside the specific area in which you're again contributing. this helps with transparency and making sure it's easy for folks that are contributing to get rewarded for those contributions. + +Tyler Wright: so again just want to make that u clear to everybody that you can look on this board. again get involved in the signing working groups. We discuss specific issues that need solving inside each of the repos and then again if anybody can get involved in the community we look for those contributions. So thank you to all that are getting involved. I did see that Robert had some items specifically that he wanted to discuss on the community and marketing side. So, Robert, I'll give you the four to quickly talk about Zilly and the Kosh YouTube working group. Yes. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you, Can you guys hear me? All Really cool. so yeah, as you some of you may know, we are leading Pyber and I are leading the Aash dev on boarding campaign on CV. It's a platform that helps us create missions and make it look like a game to engage with a cashache. this is the second three month campaign. So we basically do six months of campaign on silly engaging with more than 2,000 people which is awesome. the spring number three of the second season ended just yesterday. So right now we are just doing the math to determine the amount of rewards that are going to be paid out. We're going to start paying out those rewards on Monday. + +Robert Del Rey: you can also expect our city working group call happens every So on next Monday in our call you can also expect the project status In that report we add information analytics like we add how many people are engaging with the platform and more stuff that we share with the community. So you can see how we are doing and how is Aash benefiting from this. So really cool. it was wild trying to manage this while on the road during Cosmoverse. but we managed to do it. very happy for the support I got from Benji and also more people that engaged with this. We had a really good call on during Cosmover. I actually share the screen. + +Robert Del Rey: Sorry, I share my camera during verse and 20 people joined that city working group call and they were very happy to see our aash booth in Cosmo verse and got really excited. one thing that I can tell you is that yes, the campaigns are done in editing, but we created a document and we compile of the best submissions that we got on Cely from guides and videos to designs all those of the best really really good quality submissions we have them in a document and we're going to share those with you also very soon. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: we will give some extra rewards to those participants going the extra mile. So as for now on November the first two weeks of November only expect the rewards being paid out but no more sprints at the moment. we are actually redesigning the process and we want to make it look more like a user journey like the next phases of cely or whatever tool that we decide to use to do this. + +Robert Del Rey: we want to make it look like a journey where people get to know a cache, they join the social media, read the documentation, they start deploying and doing stuff on a cache and then at the end we show them how to get involved in GitHub like a star when you put a start in one of the repos to get all the updates there's going to be mission about that so people can start the cache GitHub + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: stuff and yeah so yeah it's going to be really nice we're going to go back to the roots of silly on boarding new developers we are very thankful for the people participating every month in the sprints but with this user journey we want to go back to the initial goal of this campaign which was attract new developers to a cache so it's a concept we're still developing it so that's the work we're going to do in the following weeks hopefully and release that to the public in the next two weeks mid November. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: So that on ceiling. Let me know if you guys have any question about it. One, two, three. No, that's okay. you can also drop any questions in the chat or go directly to the city chat for more stuff. in regards to Akash YouTube one or two months ago we started the Aash revamping efforts we believe the Aash branding is super strong and we can complement that having a strong YouTube channel. So I got many insights from the insiders going to Cosmo many cool ideas that I'm drafting in a proposal. + +Robert Del Rey: So in that proposal I'm going to show you the next phases of the Aash YouTube and how we believe we can better use this platform to educate people on a cache just to tell you a little something is that we want to focus on technical videos of a cache how to do deployments the different aspects of the console the cash chat how to contribute on GitHub those things that we say on the calls that we say them right we want to turn + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: those into videos that people can see and actually learn how to get involved and contribute to a cashache. So that's the only thing I wanted to say on YouTube. at the moment we have 20 videos uploaded from the steering committee calls. I'm waiting for approval to go live. That should happen very soon. But after those videos are live, the focus is going to be on creating technical videos about the different aspects of Aash Network. Yeah, that. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: The next YouTube working group call, forgive me Tai, I don't know when it's going to happen. Maybe we can have it on next the 5th, or the following Tuesday. Either way works fine for me. + +Tyler Wright: Robert, for that detailed update across Zeely and the Akash YouTube. Again, there's specific working group for ZLY that meets Mondays as well as the working group around the Akash YouTube which again I will make an announcement and add it to the calendar which everybody can track at network development. So I'll put a link to that in the chat for folks to just track the calendar that can add SIGs and working groups. + +Tyler Wright: to their own calendars and stay up to date on when meetings are across the month. Go ahead, Robert. Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: The third topic I had was an introduction to LATAM nodes. the guys approached me during Cosmo and they told me they have a big data center and they want to talk to the cache team and find the best ways to work together. So I don't know if that can happen by the end of this call after everybody shares their updates but just wanted to give you the heads up about latam notes. Actually, many validators passed by the cash booth saying they have resourc and also inquiring about the foundation delegation program. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: So, I don't know if they're in this call already, but just giving you the heads ups. Fate again. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. I think we can take that conversation outside of the steering committee call just… + +Tyler Wright: because again we can handle that elsewhere but I'll follow up with you and get the necessary folks together to talk about that. Go ahead. Sorry if I'm butchering your name. I don't know if you're trying to speak, but I do want to move on just for the sake of time because I know there's some discussions that we want to get to as well. again, as Amanda alluded to, there's a couple of hackathons on the horizon. for folks that want to get involved or want to learn more, again, there's a SIG community where we talk about everything from events to hackathons to just the Kosh community in general. + +Tyler Wright: So again, this is where these topics are discussed in more depth. and there's more focus discussion from folks that are very passionate about these topics. So again, I don't know if Adam specifically had anything that he wanted to cover. Don't feel obliged, but again, I know that there some recent messaging that went out around the hackathon 3. We just discussed it on a couple of previous calls. but just wanted to call that out here today as another initiative as well as I believe there's a meta hackathon that's going to be going on in Brazil that a clash is going to be supporting and sponsoring in a number of different ways and that's coming up quite soon as well. + +Tyler Wright: I did want to see if there's anything else on this marketing board or anything else that we've discussed in SIGs and working groups that folks want to talk about right now before I quickly jump over to the product and engineering roadmap. Yep, we'll get to the PIP during the discussion portion. Thank you, Zeke, for bringing that up. All right, moving on to the product and engineering roadmap. again, this is another area that gets updated consistently by members of the core engineering, etc. there are various people working on projects across product and engineering side. so again, we look to get updates from folks. + +Tyler Wright: I know one of the bigger things that's been tracked is the upgrade to Cosmos SDK47. Again, we talked about this during the SIG chain. I do want to kick it over to Archer real quick just to talk about where we are. I know that we have an active test net and again some messaging is going to go out to some folks in the community that have showed interest in getting involved in that initial test net. But I just want to see if there's anything at a high level that Archer wanted to discuss around Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade or anything else on the product and engineering roadmap. + +Artur Troian: Thanks, T. I'll try to be quite quick regarding SDK47, yes, we finally started our first test net literally yesterday. there have been couple mishaps that we had with the ramping it up, but they all been sorted and that's pretty much good news. We're going to keep this test net at this moment quite low on participation. Reason being is there are still couple things that are not quite stable and we just want to make sure that we solve all of them first before we allow wider participation from the test net and our hope is that probably in two weeks we should be able to expand participation. + +Artur Troian: then moving on to the provider there have been couple things related to the provider stability things as well as the inventory like issue 259 and the core team which is diligently working to cover all of those issues and keep releasing new features as well as bug fixes. one more thing in sort of more broadband we have finally got our snap food service up and running huge thanks to Zeke for completing that task and it's pretty much done by the community. + +Artur Troian: This is great example of community participation in Akash efforts as well as a little bit of credit goes to Luna for working on our inventory exporter for the Promeigious. I saw first just literally a couple minutes ago and hopefully we're gonna get released it soon. And I think that covered it. Back to you. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Archer. we discussed it in SIG providers yesterday. I know there's been a significant amount of work from the product team around the provider side of Akos console as a part of the console 2.0 effort. so again whether it be the free trials that have come recently, fiat payments, there's just a number of new work coming out of the console 2.0 know efforts and I think there's going to be continued work from some of the efforts from home and HQ and just continuing to again improve on the console experience. So big shout out to the product team for all the work that they've been doing and for the community for continuing testing feedback etc. Just want to see if there was anything else more specifically. Again you can get a demo. + +Tyler Wright: we got a demo on the provider side of the console from Jigger yesterday during SIG providers. The video and the transcript will be available soon. So you can take a look at that. But I just wanted to see if there was anything else specifically on the product and engineering roadmap that anybody wanted to discuss more specifically before we jump into some discussion if not then again we're at the part of the agenda where we will dive into some of the active discussions. again usually we try to carve out some time during the steering committee for discussions that are getting a fair amount of traction. I know there's two discussions that we'll be talking about today. + +Tyler Wright: One is the discussion for rare protocol and aash network full integration and the other discussion that we'll discuss in a little bit more detail is around the provider incentives pilot number two which is currently on chain for vote after again discussion for a number of weeks. I think we'll start off with the rare protocol. and then we'll take a couple of minutes to I know that there's a couple of participants that have taken some time out of their day to join us today. so I want to kick it over to Garrett and Ed from the rare protocol team. Again usually what we do is folks have already read through the discussion in great detail. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Garrett and Ed, if you can give a high level on, rare protocol, the benefits the network and then maybe a followup to any of the open discussions, then we can just spend maybe two to five minutes talking about this discussion and figure out next steps and then from there we can jump into the PIP 02 discussion following that. + +Garrett Minks: Awesome. Thanks,… + +Tyler Wright: With that said, I'll hand it over to Garrett and you can just kick us off. + +Garrett Minks: And thanks so much for having us on. We've really enjoyed getting to know the Akos community and also get our open deployment layer. I would say an MVP version of our stack is already kind of up and operational on the Akos marketplace, which is super cool. and thanks so much to Zeke especially for helping us figure out exactly how to structure the SDL to get all of that working. We have our six core microservices that encapsulate the protocol are now on and kind of an MDP version on the Apache marketplace to deploy which is super cool. + +Garrett Minks: So, as a really high level, I'm the founder of Ver Protocol, also the CTO, and then Ed, who's on the call, is our CEO, and does all of our awesome partnerships and, integrations, all the business side, of the house. So, I can speak, some to the tech side and our, big picture reasoning for really wanting to decentralize the compute, layer of our stack. So we originally started as enterprise SAS dab development software products where kind of doing the same approach as the third webs and the buttons and those kind of companies of the world and through the bare market kind of decided to do this quite interesting pivot to a fully open source deployment layer. So sorry about the airport some nonsense in the background. + +Garrett Minks: so since we've kind of pivoted to open source we've had all sorts of awesome things happen to the project got picked up by quite prestigious ac So part of the Redbeard Ventures token accelerator now and has really helped us grow our dev community. we're about 3,500 devs strong in our GitHub now. And as part of this mission to kind of democratize deploying DAPs more easily and in an open source way, we also want to basically open up the compute layer and kind of get off of GCP. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Garrett Minks: when we originally developed the core software, everything was very much built around a GCP Kubernetes setup and really to scale and to fulfill the mission of having an open deployment layer, we want to have of course the underlying compute, also be open and permissionless. So, that's kind of the big goal behind what we want to do. And then our proposal is basically focusing in the first phase all of the very specific things that we think we can do to make it easier for new developers to pick up our open deployment layer and deploy it onto AOS things like kind of ironing out some of the finer points with SSL kind of see some of the other items and then with the second phase to really figure out how we can make a feature parody version of our deployment layer with all the + +Garrett Minks: scaling features and functionalities that we currently have on GCP. So, that's a high level. I don't know, Ed, if you wanted to say anything. + +Ed Prado: Yeah, I'll just add it's great to be here. We've loved working with you. We've been to several conferences. We're getting a lot of signal on Akos and certainly One of the things that was interesting when we spoke to Chang is that we represent a way to monetize and leverage your plain vanilla compute away from AI, which I think is a really important part of your model. and we also represent, a web three sort of integration and developer group that we can bring in and actually build DAPs. And as we go down this journey, there's going to be more and more integration between AI and web 3. we were just at a conference and tons of people were talking about that. So, we think that the time is right and we think we have the right product, we have the right developers, and we're excited to discuss and see if we can get this done with you guys. So, thank you for your time. + +Tyler Wright: Thank And again, I've dropped in the discussion in the chat for folks. Again, the ask is from the community pool for again their efforts. and so again, you can check out the entire ask and just get more information on the specifics on top of what Garrett and Ed just mentioned. So, is there any specific questions that anybody has at this point while we have few members from the team here live that they want to get answered? Go ahead and kneel. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Hey guys. I'm sorry. I was just actually reviewing the proposal right now as you guys were talking. maybe I'm missing it, but what exactly is the service? If you could just explain it in one sentence or… + +Anil Murty: two sentences. What does the service do? + +Garrett Minks: Sure. + +Garrett Minks: So in a nutshell, the open deployment layer makes it easier for a new developer coming in to deploy a DAP. So instead of starting from scratch, they can start from a 95 99, percent complete DAP. So the full front end, backend, Mongo database, Reddus, all of those microservices that we have in the template that I just dropped into the chat, those are all out of the box working. And then effectively to make the DAP their own, they would go in and switch out a few of the underlying API keys. So we provide a default alchemy key say to do the syncing. they could go in modify the Docker image and then have their own syncing engine. + +Garrett Minks: And importantly, they have their own backends, too. That's something that not a lot of other companies kind of in this similar vertical to ours will open source. third web, things like that. they keep a lot of that stuff closed. so, yeah, in a nutshell, it's a open source deployment layer that makes building new distributed applications easier. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Got it. so I guess I'm a little confused as to why. So the whole idea with console is to be the tool that people use to deploy stuff onto And in the past when we have had people talk about building potential other clients, it's been one of two ways… + + +### 00:30:00 + +Garrett Minks: It wants dark. + +Anil Murty: which is if you have other platforms that are building something for web3 or decentralized applications but trying to compete with something like a versel there's a few projects that have done that. + +Anil Murty: they'll typically integrate Akash as part of their platform and use it purely for infrastructure along with something like Filecoin or something else for storage. and that's typically something that they just do as part of their platform. what I'm not understanding here is why is this a community proposal for Akash specifically and also also just looking at the screen that Tyler is sharing that seems like a really big team for what you're talking about which is a few SDLs I mean we don't have a huge Q automation testing team just so + +Garrett Minks: Sure certainly. So I can speak to kind of So of course our infrastructure is all kind of Docker based already. So the way that we've architected it is a bunch of these containerized microservices just right now we're deploying them largely inside of Google and then our containers are being kind of created and destroyed and the GKE setup. so we have the way that we've constructed our system I think lends itself quite well to how AOS works. It's just that key difference and that key differentiator is, we don't want to have devs to have to pay fiat and use some centralized server that they could get turned off or censored, right? We want to have a native web three compute option for deploying web3 applications. + +Garrett Minks: that's the real impetus for us trying to basically fully decentralize our stack from kind of the top down because I think it kind of doesn't matter if you're using the blockchain and have all these awesome decentralized features in your application if it's ultimately running on a compute layer that is run by Google. so yeah, that's the, high level reason why we want to do it. And then the more sort of brass tax way that we're able to accomplish it is by basically porting over all of our existing config maps like existing manifest files, all that stuff that we've done in Google. + +Garrett Minks: we're basically migrating and moving over and it seems like Jiao asked about the yncing. So we have two ways to do syncing in our system. one is a kind of out of the box solution that uses alchemy largely to do all the RPC type services. We also have a native one where you can pop in your own RPC URLs into the environment variable file of the docker at build time and then basically sync that way and then all of those transactions when they sync will then get stored in the mongo which is another microser that gets deployed nicely when that one SDL is run. + +Garrett Minks: So basically when somebody deploys a DAP with our system they're running their own entire self-s sovereign self-contained DAP infrastructure including the backend in the rare node microser and… + +Tyler Wright: I know we need some time for other discussions. + +Garrett Minks: then their own mongo in that micros service that helps + +Tyler Wright: I would just ask that anybody here today if they haven't already, please feel free to drop comments and discussion. Again, this is how we continue to make sure that the community is as involved with everything that has to do with community pool spend. if anybody has any additional questions, thoughts, concerns, votes of approval, whatever the case may be, ple please drop those in the GitHub discussion. and then we'll continue to again fine-tune and figure out what the next steps are. But very appreciative of Garrett and Ed taking the time out of their day to join us today and safe travels, Garrett, for sure. But thank you very much for taking the time. + +Garrett Minks: Awesome so much. Thanks for having us and I'll hang on for the rest of the call too. + +Tyler Wright: + +Garrett Minks: Okay. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. All right. + +Tyler Wright: Continuing to move along. again, there's a couple of other items that, are on chain. so again, please get involved in some of these discussions. I know that Huey dropped in some, metrics from Q3 events in some of the past quarters. So, please track that. but right now I do want to because I know that folks have been talking about it and want to talk about a little bit more. I do want to kick it over to Chang to talk a little bit more at a high level. I know we've talked about it in previous calls prior to this discussion going up but talk about PIP at the highest level and… + + +### 00:35:00 + +Tyler Wright: then see if there's any questions from anybody here that can be discussed. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you,… + +Cheng Wang: Ty And let me know if Changbot v1.2 is bothering you guys and I'll remove the filter here. so in terms of PIP provider incentives pilot number two, this is the follow on to provider incentives number one, right? the first level of incentives was just for a quick recap in everyone's information was approximately $5 million in size and funded approximately 400 additional GPUs that have all today to this day been added to AOS network. And as far as where we are in the commitment of those funds, initially we started I think the first contract with a provider or two back in March of this year and throughout between March and this point in time we are still in the process of fully deploying All those funds at this point in time have been fully committed. Of course the spend will continue to move forward. + +Cheng Wang: So we're at peak basically GPU capacity from pip 01 chips at this moment in time and pip 02 is a double of that size up to 10 million and there are a lot of community discussion around that particular item in GitHub as well and so currently this I think is already on chain for vote and the idea here if you can scroll down a little bit so those chips up top in the current table that's been displayed right now are the ones that were committed to in PIB01. And in the table a little bit further down, these ones right here are the ones that we're expected to, we're estimated to deploy funds towards for PIP 02. Again, these are, high level est estimates based on the best of our understanding with us and the core team rather in the community at large, And this mix can change a little bit over time, right? So this is the essential makeup here. + +Cheng Wang: the biggest thing I'll say is the idea here is to bring greater numbers of highly sought-after GPUs onto a Kosh network to be able to power larger workloads with larger tenants, right? those are all extremely important especially as some of these things begin to scale. We're already running up against maximum utilization as you guys will see if you go to the stats network today. with trial wallets as well as with credit card payments up online now we're essentially red line on all the high-end GPUs we have and we're at near I think record usage today which is incredible from GPU side of things so if there are any questions please drop them in 810080s of course the most sought actor models there and L40s etc will be kind of the replacement model for the A180s MI300's + +Cheng Wang: and the H200's are the looking forward set of models, right? kind of the newer generation and of course the RTX490 is crowd favorite there as far as inference capabilities go in a distributed fashion. and A6000s which kind of round out the lower end of those particular models to service clients on that side of the spectrum. That's Fire away. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Go ahead, Zeke. + +Zeke Ezagui: + +Zeke Ezagui: So, a couple questions. I'll start out with, it looks like the timeline for this is going to be 6 to9 months. Is there any thought in wanting to do 5090s … + +Cheng Wang: + +Zeke Ezagui: because those are going to release in spring of + +Cheng Wang: That's a great question. + +Cheng Wang: Probably I think just to give you an idea in terms of committing to these ships. So, hypothetically we go out to six, eight different providers and look for these resources. right 4090s we have 204 here kind of roughly allocated. That doesn't mean we'll take down a swad of 204 all at once. It'll probably be done in tan so in that vein, if there's, excess funds and we want to reallocate when the 5090s come out, I'm sure, we'll do so. I currently not envisioned here, but I think we should be flexible over time for But Neil, I was just going to say if you could please take that on, that'd be great. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Yeah, and that's a good question, one of the other things to keep in mind here, and Chen, keep me honest on these numbers because we did them a while back. I may be, confusing some of them. the numbers that are on this chart that Tyler is sharing, these include GPUs that are committed currently and GPUs that will be added in the future… + +Cheng Wang: That's + +Anil Murty: because as Chang said, if you go and look at network today pretty much all the GPUs of all the models are being utilized and so our utilization rate is really high. What that means is that there are actual customer workloads running on the GPUs that we have committed contracts to right now. And so what that means then is that as these contracts get to their end, we can't just abandon the existing GPUs that have customer workloads running on them. So we have one of two options. + + +### 00:40:00 + +Anil Murty: we can either work with those existing customers and offer them potentially the next generation GPU and then transition them to these new clusters or we can continue maintaining the existing clusters. So I think we'd have to sort of look at these a little bit on a case by case basis. but your point is completely valid which we have to look at the next generation of GPUs in many of these cases. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you. + +Zeke Ezagui: Yeah, that makes sense. and my next question is there was added after some discussion the 5 to 10% for community members. what's going to be kind of the process on if I'm a community member, how do I go about trying to get, approval or whatever getting some incentives to do so? what's going to be the process for + +Cheng Wang: + +Cheng Wang: I think we'll have to probably iron that out when the time comes. It really depends on I think the parameters that we set or are roughly that of a tier 2 data center requirements, right? So, with that being said, I think as long as the u community provider can uphold these, of course, quality, availability, density, all those requirements, and I think it's really just an open discussion. I don't think there's anything too structured at this point in time. Anal, I hate to hot potato this over to you once again, but I'd figure it seems pretty straightforward, the structure here or the requirements. + +Anil Murty: + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead and + +Cheng Wang: So, I don't imagine there's too much vagaries here to deal with. + +Anil Murty: Yeah,… + +Anil Murty: I think yeah, so I think Tyler is sharing that portion of the screen, Zeke. after some of the feedback from you and other folks that have been really strong providers on the network for a long time, we added those bullet points specifically for trying to outline what would be potentially the criteria for somebody that could be eligible for the community portion of this pool including the percentage allocation to community providers. + +Anil Murty: So, definitely take a look at that if you haven't already and please provide feedback if that sounds good to you. But that's a general idea. and again, this is kind of a precursor to us implementing an onchain mechanism for allocating funds to all community providers and not just a subset of them. + +Zeke Ezagui: Yeah, makes sense. So that just be, a GitHub discussion. + +Zeke Ezagui: That would be messaging someone at the core team. that's kind of what I was talking about. + +Anil Murty: That's correct. + +Anil Murty: Yeah, it'll be pretty manual for now because we just don't have the resources within the core team to go and implement what is needed for us to be able to have onchain incentives and not get into some of the problems that some of the other GPU marketplaces have had with civil attacks and… + +Tyler Wright: Wait, you + +Anil Murty: and spam accounts and things like that. + +Anil Murty: + +Zeke Ezagui: And… + +Zeke Ezagui: if I'm interested, would that just be, sending you or chain a message? Would that be sending Tyler message? Would that be, doing the GitHub discussion? + +Anil Murty: yeah so I think… + +Anil Murty: if there are people that are within the community that meet the requirements of so I guess there's two steps to this right one is the community and people that review this proposal agreeing on the criteria that's outlined in the proposal here specifically the bullet points below the + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: that Tyler is sharing. and then assuming that that is good and this proposal actually passes then the pro process would be if the community provider meets those requirements then the core team being the stewards of driving the provider incentives pilot would ensure that those criteria are met and… + +Anil Murty: then ensure that there is fair allocation of resources across all the providers that meet That criteria. + +Tyler Wright: much appreciate the questions and… + +Tyler Wright: the responses. Again, if anybody has anything that any other questions, thoughts, feel free to drop in the GitHub discussion. I'll follow up with any updates as pertains to just structure. again, as Anil mentioned, it's going to be manual, but we can fine-tune where the best place for people to interact. and I'll make that a bit I'll drop a comment over the next couple of days with how to do that. Again, this is on chain for vote right now. + + +### 00:45:00 + +Tyler Wright: so again please vote if you haven't and again continue to drop in messages in this discussion and we'll continue to track it at sick rs or Any other questions as it pertains to PIP number two? Terrific. I'll also drop in the recording and transcript from this steering committee meeting as a comment as well just so people have it easily Real quick another discussion update that I want to call out Adam with support from other members of the team has updated best practices for governance proposals. + +Tyler Wright: Again, this governance proposal is the best way to get funds from the community pool. Again, the community pool is available to all members of the community and is a great resource to get people building and helping to grow the Akash network through feedback, through the last year plus of seeing things in action. Again, there have been some updates made to the governance proposal guidelines. So, please take a look at those and it'll tell you, how to start off, from an idea to getting a request from the community pool and having conversations with the community. So, again, if anyone has any questions, feel free to drop them as comments, but play please take a look at that discussion around best practices for a kosh governance proposals. All right. + +Tyler Wright: Is there any other discussions that anyone wants to talk about right now? All right. If not, then usually this is a portion where we just open it up for discussion. real quick, I know we only have nine minutes left. I want to be respectful of folks time because I know people take time out of their busy days across both the core team as well as other community members. So is there any other topics that anybody wants to discuss right now? much appreciate rare protocol team for joining us. thank you to Chang and Anneil for fielding questions around PIP02. again please get involved in discussions. + +Tyler Wright: Please stay up todate on all the things that are going on across the Akos community by looking at the project boards. There's a number of ways to contribute if you look at the bounty boards. As you look ahead again, there's a working group for Akos YouTube that will be added to the calendar soon. ZLE meetings every week. there's also going to be, SIG chain where we'll talk a little bit more about the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. again we get updates on all things provider related at sig providers. So there's just a number of meetings that happen throughout the month where you can get involved have very very specific discussions around themes and topics. I know there's a number of folks that are going to get more involved in SIG support. Again support is where issues that are related to the AOS blockchain and just a core codebase go. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: So again, if you want to get involved and contribute there or just learn more about how Akos works, under the hood, please get involved in sick support. Much appreciate everyone's time today. Look out for announcements on discord on social media and again just continue to just reach out and stay involved. But again, much appreciate everyone's time today. + +Tyler Wright: Hope everyone has a great rest of their day and… + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: Tyler. Stay safe, everybody. + +Tyler Wright: a happy Halloween if you Be in the metaverse. + +Zeke Ezagui: Thanks everybody. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you Tyler. 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It is November 6th. + +Scott Hewitson: we have it recorded for those that can't attend today and this along with notes will be up in GitHub. I just looked there's kind of a backlog from couple sig economics. So I'll make sure that those notes get updated as well as this one. last talk wasn't a whole lot going on. we talked a little bit about PIP 2, the provider incentives pilot, which has since gone on chain and it passed yesterday was also discussed at steering committee. so has a large chunk of AKT going to bringing on more supply. another prop that recently passed was the Q4 events which passed on Monday I believe. + +Scott Hewitson: + +Scott Hewitson: As always all the reporting on all that is in the GitHub repository for community pool spend requests. we tried to at least from overclock side anyone who anytime we put up proposals want to make sure that we're reporting on it staying in the good graces of the community. All this it's all community dollars. So we have a right to do that an obligation to do that as well. let's see. There was the metam or the final payment for Mystic Labs. if you recall, they had put up a vote for an AKT amount versus a dollar amount. They've since changed that and it passed as well. + +Cheng Wang: + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I think that's kind of the major points. Chang, do you want to talk anything about PIP02 at all? just because it is the biggest a community spend prop that's occurred to date. + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, for sure. + +Cheng Wang: For PIP02, one of the things to keep in mind later on addition was the community provider amendment, if you could call it that was edited in the original post where based on feedback from several community members about wanting to be eligible for PIP02 funds from PIP02. + +Cheng Wang: we amended a portion to say 5 to 10% of the total funds available would be allocated to community providers aka those who aren't running data centers as a service right of course there are very strict requirements for availability quality and things like that so I wouldn't want to rehash the language there but please go ahead and take a look at the links that you drop to see that updated language both on chain as well as on GitHub there and the short of it is 10% + +Cheng Wang: % which is a million dollars effectively of the total PIP02 funds will be allocated toward on a come first- serve basis to community providers who want to put their name in the ring and the points of assessment like how we will assess their eligibility will be based on quality, density, reliability all these kind of areas to where we can make sure that all the resources that are brought on my + +Cheng Wang: community providers are of the quality and robustness that potential partners would want to see right in the network because one of the things we have to really ensure is despite the really meteoric growth and a cautious demand at this point in time in fees is one of the things that is stability quality availability all those kind of things so if we have providers who are going to bring resources that u might go down unreliable aren't the quality + +Cheng Wang: not performant as the same GPUs elsewhere will be then that could impact brand quite negatively right and also decrease the user experience so that's something we definitely want to mitigate and we'll likely allocate the million dollars so it's a million dollars in total to community providers it's going to be on a come first-s serve basis point number two point number three is we'll likely limit it to $250,000 right, per community provider such that there's no overwhelm one person taking the entire slice and whatnot, and we'll see kind of how that goes. And anyone who's interested, please reach out to us on Discord, Twitter, email, whatever the case may be. GitHub and we can obviously have these conversations to bring those resources on. And as far as the type of resources, those are of course posted in the GitHub discussion as well. + +Cheng Wang: + +Cheng Wang: So namely H100s, I think some A6000s, 4090s, … + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you for that for the context and… + + +### 00:05:00 + +Cheng Wang: are in the loop as well. So definitely reach out to us and let us know if you are interested. + +Scott Hewitson: the additional color on PIP 02. I think we've had a good I'll say response with PIP01. I mean you just look at daily spend it's going crazy. So hopefully we can build on it and move things a little bit further further in this two-sided marketplace. okay so any going off of PIP don't need to talk about that unless anyone has any questions. I know it's just a small group with us today. + +Scott Hewitson: Does anyone in the group have any questions or any ideas or comments or concerns related to SIG economics? if so, feel free to raise your hand or drop it into chat. I'll just give a couple seconds in case anyone wants to say anything. All right. yeah, we got smaller group today. not a ton of huge major updates, so I think we can cut things a little early. as always, thank you for joining in on these calls. and those that are not here, thank you for listening in. if you have any questions or concerns or anything, please go to the Discord and drop into SIG Economics and, feel free to tag me at hey Huey. + +Scott Hewitson: if you had any ideas, we're always open to ideas and … + +Cheng Wang: + +Scott Hewitson: we get a ton of things from the community members. So, always have our ears to the ground for that. but with that, I hope everyone has a good rest of your day and I'm going to end the recording. Thanks y'all. + +Rodri R: You guys. Thanks + +Cheng Wang: So, it's Thank you everybody. + +Cheng Wang: All And there we go. Thanks guys. + +Scott Hewitson: All right. + +Cheng Wang: You in the metaverse. Hey. + +Scott Hewitson: Yep. Have a good one. Take care. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:07:14 👋 + From 717a6f4ec9026c9c41ac98098bd17c71272d1a68 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:30:33 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 03/19] Create meeting notes for sig-client #18 (#738) * Create meeting notes for sig-client #18 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 018-2024-11-13.md added recording link and transcript Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md | 127 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 127 insertions(+) create mode 100644 sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md diff --git a/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md b/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b4d05880 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +# Akash Network - Clients Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #18 + +## Agenda +- Updates from the Akash Console Product Team. +- Discussion on recent features and enhancements. +- Updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade and its impact on clients. +- Open floor for questions, discussions, and updates from other teams. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://blzzgvq7wf74w6qjclppk66qbckfe7xzngfnrlozgwkdguub7u5q.arweave.net/CvOTVh-xf8t6CRLe9XvQCJRSfvlpitit2TWUM1KB_Ts) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Denis Lelic +- Anil Murty +- Jigar Patel +- Joao Luna +- Benjamin Aguirre +- Rodri R +- M R +- B S +- Maxime Cyr + +## Meeting Notes + +### Opening Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** welcomed participants and provided an overview of the SIG Clients meeting. + - Highlighted the bimonthly cadence of the meeting due to limited availability. + - Aimed to facilitate discussions on pain points, blockers, and updates for teams leveraging Akash APIs and related integrations. + - Mentioned this was the last SIG Clients meeting of 2024. + +### Akash Console Updates +- **Maxime Beauchamp** presented recent updates and features for the Akash Console: + - Introduced fiat and credit card payment support, enabling users to deploy on Akash using credits purchased with credit cards. + - Revamped the deployment page for ease of use. + - Implemented a free trial system offering $10 credits without requiring an account, enhancing user accessibility. + - Launched a feature for automated deployments linked to repositories (e.g., GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket). + - This feature allows automatic deployment updates upon changes to the specified branch. + - Released the Cosmos MetaMask snap wallet integration, enabling AKT support via MetaMask. + - Stabilized free trial support to prevent abuse and misuse. + - Significant improvements were made to streamline backend operations and support higher console usage. + +### Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade +- **Tyler Wright** discussed the upcoming Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade: + - A testnet is in phase one, with core engineering and community members testing CLI functionalities. + - Phase two will include a sandbox environment for developers to test integrations and make adjustments. + - Documentation and further announcements will be provided via Discord and SIG Clients channels. + +### Open Discussions +- Participants were invited to ask questions and discuss issues related to Akash API, AkashJS, and integration solutions. +- No additional updates or discussions were raised during the open floor session. + +### Closing Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** thanked the Akash Console team for their work and the attendees for their participation. +- Encouraged developers to follow updates and announcements in Discord and SIG channels. +- Concluded with best wishes for the year-end and an invitation to future SIG meetings in 2025. + +## Action Items +- **Community Members:** Test new Akash Console features and provide feedback via the SIG Clients channel. +- Monitor Discord and other communication channels for updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. +- **Akash Console Team:** Continue improving features and address issues reported in the Console repo. +- **Participants:** Share ongoing projects and integrations in future SIG meetings for collaboration and feedback. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG clients. This is a bimonthly meeting. + +Tyler Wright: During this special interest group for clients on members of the community and teams that are building clients on a Akash come together to talk about any blockers, pain points, issues etc. This has typically been a monthly meeting but as of the last six months with a number of teams building various solutions on top of Akos and limited availability where this meeting really ultimately ended up with a number of people saying that they were going to join but ultimately that Kosh console team is one of the only teams that would consistently join. We change the cadence to every other month. + +Tyler Wright: Again, this is a meeting for folks that are building easier ways to deploy onto the Akos network. this is for folks that are leveraging the AOSH API or AOSJS or any other integrations to again come together about core code, talk about any pain points etc. We oftent times get updates from the Akash console product team at Overclock Labs about a number of things that they've been working on over the last month or two. again this is the last TIG client's meeting of 2024. there is a number of things that are being worked on by the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: you can find those items on GitHub in the projects area. There is a road map for again product and engineering where you can track some of the items that are on being worked in progress right now in testing and on the road map for the future. Again, I know that the members of the Overclock Labs core team are continuing to update the road map and add a number of items based upon priority and importance as we continue to end the year and move into 2025. I know there are a number of teams that have reached out to me publicly and privately that are building integrations and clients and ways to deploy onto the Kasha network. + +Tyler Wright: I think some folks said that they won't be able to make it today. Some folks are going to be ready to go live in the next month or two. so, again, I'm trying to stress those teams to at least join these meetings to give a demo of, their applications in d. Without further ado, unless anybody has any agenda items, I want to hand it over to Max B who usually leads us through just updates on the console team. I also brought in Dennis who leads design on many of the project products as well as marketing, branding, etc. because I know there's just been a number of updates over the last couple of months on the console side. + +Tyler Wright: At our last SIG providers meeting, the Ptor team gave an update on all things related to the Akos provider on the console. This is something that's a part of the console 2.0 effort that also gets discussed during SIG clients. But again, I just want to see if there's any I'll hand it over to Max B and potentially Dennis to talk about what's been going on on the Kosh console front. see if there's any questions on anything related to API, AOSJS, or if there's any other teams on the call that maybe want to talk about potential solutions. the max speed. Feel free to take it + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, There has been a lot of updates definitely in the past two months for console. I'm gonna share my screen so it's easier for everyone to So yeah, the main update in the past two months is definitely fiat payments or credit card payments. So yeah, now users can deploy on a cash using their credit card so they use their credit card to buy credit on console and use those credits to pay for deployments. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So just a quick little demo and yeah at the same time this page for new deployments has been revamped and one of the new features that has been released last week this week and also yeah this is a new thing as well because we're getting spammed by a lot of new accounts for this and u so yeah you can create deployment without signing a transaction or using your own wallet which is a very innovative and game changer for a cash. We've had a record breaking usage through console in the past month because of that. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Maxime Beauchamp: and yeah right now I'm using my own account and I already added my credit card but normally there's a free trial that we implemented which makes it possible for users to use a cash without even creating an account. You can just click on start trial you get $10 of free credits so you can try a cash out without any commitment. and also one of the newest feature as well that was released this week it was done by a community member slash team called human hq. + +Maxime Beauchamp: they've been doing a lot of great work on the website and console and we released that this week which is basically a versol deployment experience. So you can connect your repo or access deploy any repo by just putting up the URL or connect your GitHub bit bucket or GitLab whatever repo and it'll just fetch the repo and deploy it automatically and also update itself when you commit on the main branch or whatever branch you specify. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So this is one of the core features that is part of the console 2.0 project which is available or you can see it on the GitHub project board where we keep track of all the tasks related to that. That was one of the big biggest feature that we wanted to release for console 2.0 know and so yeah you can try it out give us your feedback on it works pretty well not going to go into too indepth demo as of now but wanted to mention it we also added the Cosmos Metallask extension snap wallet so you can connect + +Maxime Beauchamp: your MetaMask wallet which contains a AK support through MetaMask snaps which was done by one of the community members in the past year or so and it was finally released in the past two months. what else? I think this is mostly We done a ton of work behind the scenes for free trial support because it does attract a lot of abuse and people trying to game it. But now we stabilized it and it's a very good thing for a cashache. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So yeah, that's basically it. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Max, for going through a number of new features that you and the rest of the team have been working on for some time. I know again wider announcements are going to be going out in the future. but again, if anybody wants to test some of these features that hasn't already tested some of these features, again, feel free to reach out inside the SIG clients channel. But major shout out to all the work from again the product team across a kosh console. Again we'll save any conversation related to the provider side of console for sig providers but I know anal has talked about the console 2.0 plan in general during these SIG clients meetings and that plan is in full motion. + +Tyler Wright: Again, you can look at the product and engineering roadmap to see where things are. But I know both on the deployment side and on the provider side, there've just been a number of updates over the last couple of months and a lot of improvements and continued improvements. Just as a reminder if anybody has any issues that they see related to the Kosh console again inside the console repo there is an area for issues and people can open up any issues. again Max and the rest of the team do a good job of responding to comments or responding to issues and again we talked about it async and s support as well. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Any questions on anything Akos console related and the update from Max and the rest of the team again I know there's some other teams either here or that are going to be listening to this call later that are building solutions on top of the Akos network leveraging the AOS API and AOSJS. I just wanted to see if there was any questions that anybody wanted to talk about live as it pertains to the Akash API, AOSJS or any other forms for integrating with the AOS network. Cool. + +Tyler Wright: One thing that we've also talked about during the steering committee as well as SIG chain which we'll talk about next week in a little bit more detail is around the upgrade. Again, the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade will affect clients. So there is a test net that is in phase one right now with members of the community as well as members of the core engineering team that are working on just again all the actions and functionality of the CLI postcosmos SDK 47. so again there's a test net active right now that's being worked on. + +Tyler Wright: Once that phase one is complete, then folks that are building clients are leveraging the API integrations, there will be a sandbox test environment on those teams to see the updates to the Cosmos SDK47 and make any necessary changes. There will be documentation available too. So again, please look out for announcements across Discord, SIG clients, or just various other channels for next steps there. But just again that's coming out in the next couple of weeks leading up to the new year. So just keep your eyes peeled for announcements there if you're building an integration onto the Kosh network and leveraging again the API or JS. + +Tyler Wright: I did want to see if there's anybody else that wanted to talk about anything related to clients. Cool. If not then again you all can have some time back. Again much appreciate everyone joining the last sick clients meeting of 2024. Again between meetings there will be some updates in terms of Cosmos SDK47. So if you are building an integration, just look out for announcements in Discord and other channels. again big round of applause all the work that the Clash Console team has been doing. so again please look out for continued updates on that clash console side. If anybody has any questions or comments feel free to drop them in SIG clients channel. And then again I hope everyone has a great rest of the month and year on the client side. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: But there's a number of other ways to get involved with So feel free to join another SIGER working group. but again, thank you Max for the updates. Thank you everyone for your participation today and this year. And I'll see you all on the client side in 2025. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, Tyler. 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Providers Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #22 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Praetor team developments +- Provider Console Beta progress and demonstration +- Discussion on PIP-02 proposal and provider incentives pilot +- Updates on trial accounts and white-listed providers +- Open issues, including tainted nodes and operator inventory bugs +- Announcements and follow-ups + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://efcdb25mxpxjedpogrnl4gcabiiqrsgfyikp3jxo5dxlucpzlnmq.arweave.net/IUQw66y77pIN7jRavhhAChEIyMXCFP2m7ujuugn5W1k) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Jigar Patel +- Deval Patel +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrew Mello +- Cheng Wang +- Zeke Ezagui +- Rodri R +- Vigneshwar Viswanathan +- B S +- Vontario Taylor +- Andrey Arapov + +## Meeting Notes + +### Provider Console Beta Updates +- **Jigar Patel:** + - Demonstrated the new Provider Console Beta. + - Walkthrough of provider setup using the console: + - Connect wallet using Keplr or Leap Wallet. + - Set up provider details including control machine configuration, pricing, and cluster initialization. + - Improvements include simplified K3S integration for both single and multi-node setups. + - Enhanced features for dashboard viewing and attribute management. + - Public testing of the beta to commence after PR review and merge. + +### PIP-02 Proposal Discussion +- The PIP-02 provider incentives pilot proposal is on-chain for voting. +- Participants encouraged to discuss and provide feedback on the GitHub discussion page. +- Potential follow-up during the steering committee for additional clarification. + +### Trial Accounts on Akash +- **Scott Carruthers:** + - Explained the introduction of trial accounts, similar to AWS free-tier. + - Trial accounts currently restricted to white-listed providers to ensure stability. + - Providers hosting trial accounts will receive AKT compensation. + - Increased network bid activity linked to trial accounts noted. + - Open invitation for community providers to join the white list. + +### Open Issues +- **Tainted Nodes Bidding Issue** + - **Raised by:** Andrew Mello + - Issue #253 affecting first-time deployments remains unresolved. + - Prioritized but delayed due to focus on other critical stability issues. + - Commitment to revisiting the issue and providing updates. + +- **Operator Inventory Bug** + - Mixed GPU cluster issues in available versus allocatable resources. + - Andrew to file a detailed bug report for further triage. + +### Announcements +- Upcoming Cosmos SDK upgrade and related testing. +- Participants reminded to monitor the provider announcement channel for updates. +- Continued efforts to streamline the provider onboarding and deployment processes. + +## Closing Remarks +- Tyler Wright thanked participants for their contributions. +- Encouragement to remain active in discussions and follow announcements. +- Meeting adjourned with reminders for next steps and follow-ups. + +## Action Items +- **Jigar Patel and Deval Patel** + - Proceed with finalizing Provider Console Beta and initiate public testing. + +- **Scott Carruthers** + - Engage with interested community providers about joining the trial account white list. + +- **Andrew Mello** + - File the new operator inventory bug. + - Attend the SIG Support call for deeper discussion on ongoing issues. + +- **Tyler Wright** + - Ensure issue #253 remains a priority and drop a note in the support repo. + - Add Andrew Mello to the SIG Support calendar invite. + +- **Participants** + - Review the PIP-02 proposal and provide feedback. + - Stay engaged via the provider announcement channel and Discord. + + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG providers monthly meeting on October 30th, 20 During the SIG providers monthly meetings, this group usually goes over anything related to the provider. obviously we have the provider channel and discord. documentation available but any active or live discussions that anybody wants to have regarding anything aos provider related we usually talk about during this monthly meeting. One of the standing agenda items historically has been updates from all the work that Jigger and Dval have been doing in creating Praor as of the last six months. + +Tyler Wright: I believe at this point again the Prador team is now under Overclock labs and has been actively working on the Akash console and a provider experience inside a console. usually we talk to or we get updates from Jigger and Dval and all the work that they've been doing around console 2.0 and the Kosh provider on console. I know there's also been a HIP 02 proposal that is now on chain up for vote. I think some folks may be joining to talk about that. But if anybody has any other agenda items or anything else related to the provider that they want to discuss here today, please drop a note inside the chat and we can get to any of those topics. + +Tyler Wright: there's enough folks from the core team here that can answer any questions if With that said, I'll kick it over to Jigger and Dval because I know there's a number of updates that they've been working on related to Akash console and the provider on console. So, I'll kick it over to them to give us an update on all the work that they've been + +Jigar Patel: Thanks Hey, so I wanted to start with the updates from u work that has been ongoing for provider console beta. and we have created PR and it's on the review right now and I also wanted to demo something today. if everybody agrees on that. Awesome. let me share my screen. + +Jigar Patel: Hope you can see the so basically this is a new provider console. and obviously it will be improved over the time. currently a lot of work is on ongoing right now but let's start with building a provider on it. so first you connect the wallet and obviously you can use caper or lip wallet. so if I use kapper it gives me approve ownership popup. I'm going to approve that. + +Jigar Patel: you might not able to see that pop up but yeah and on this wallet I'm not a provider so it will give me u become pro tab so on Okay. Maybe our node is a little bit behind me. + +Jigar Patel: I just created this wallet and it might not reflect the AD I just sent. yeah so once you wanted to become a provider you can just select the provider you can select the number of servers. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Jigar Patel: So we just removed selecting single and multiload because now we use K3S on both single load and multiload. So you can select how many number of server you want and we'll install K3S on all of them and make a Kubernetes on it. So if you select one for now going to okay and then give your information about the control machine. So let me just copy file to the file next. + +Jigar Patel: So basically it's verifying the access to it. and we'll ask for give the domain name. Then email is optional. Next attribute I can set location region if I want. so central hit here I can set the pricing. + +Jigar Patel: so based on the resources I have so I have four CPU 15 gigs of memory or 16 but one gigs the system takes it storage and the GPU and because I have a GPU right it'll show up the GPU pricing so let's say if I wanted to do 200 on GPU it'll just show me estimated monthly earnings next it will show a password mode or just this be importing wallet. so I'll select the wallet mode and then just copy my website. this is not the one. I just changed my yeah. Yeah. So was the one. Yeah. + +Jigar Patel: So now our building process started and it'll just initialize the G3S and we'll updated the system installing the G clico updating Kubernetes. So we'll just do all this and you say in 13 seconds we installed the Kubernetes on control node. and I'll just go back and change to other wallet or let me just go back to homepage because we are just installing Kubernetes. So we might have a dashboard for it. and you can see it like this is running right now. so if your provider is not online you'll able to see your dashboard look like this. + +Jigar Patel: Basically, it says your code is offline and if your board is online, which is I'm just going to try to find something that is online Yeah, it is online, So, you'll able to see the dashboard, you'll see all the deployments. and then more feature are coming soon. we are adding settings for changing attributes. + +Jigar Patel: those are coming soon you'll able to see that your conforming is connected or not and you are able to create a new wallets on it sorry a new multi-node cluster from it as well. yeah we'll push this update soon after the P merge into beta and we'll open it to testing for public. Thank you. So yeah, that was update from my + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much. I know again a significant amount of work has gone into that from again the console team and other members of the core team that have been supporting. So thank you very much. Cool. a couple of things that we've always touched on again as Jigger has mentioned today and in previous meetings much of the way that providers are being built now is as a result of a updated process that the core engineering team but mostly efforts kind of led by Scott have updated to again the way that the provider + +Tyler Wright: This has done wonders in speaking of speed in which providers can be built. and so again there's documentation that's available to those it's not the documentation that's on the site is still in beta right now. very much like the work from Digger and Dval related to the provider on AOS console. if anybody wants to again build the provider in the beta way, please recap. You can also use the documentation that's available in the Kosh docs. but again all that will be updated in the coming weeks or months as we continue to test and again there's been tests going on for at least six months with this new way to build the so again we have a large sample size of provider stability and all that kind of stuff. + +Tyler Wright: So again, much appreciate the efforts of many folks on this call for all they've done. Any questions on the provider experience on the Akash council? All right. I know some folks who traditionally come to this meeting have conflicts coming out of some other calls. One thing I do want to point out again, there is a pro proposal on chain for the provider incentives pilot number two. This is off of the back of again the first pilot I'm dropping in the GitHub discussion for folks. + +Tyler Wright: if anybody has any questions about the pilot number two how the funds will be used please feel free to drop in a message inside of that GitHub discussion. we might also take some time potentially during steering committee if anybody has any follow-up questions that they might have and they want to talk about it live. Terrific. Is there any other topics that anybody on this call wants to talk about? Go ahead, Scott. + +Scott Carruthers: So I wanted to ensure that everyone on this call was clear especially for those supporting provider builds like Rodri and others in the community and the impact and the use of our AOSH recent introduction of trial instances and possibly some others will have some thoughts on this as well but I'll kick it off. + +Scott Carruthers: so for anyone that's not aware the AOS console recently introduced trial accounts so this is very much akin or synonymous with AWS free tier right so a brand new user to AOS maybe a non-crypto user this wants to experiment with AOS deployments just like they want to experiment with virtual machines on AWS we want to give the ability for someone to easily get started and + +Scott Carruthers: do some initial experimentation on AOS and then eventually obviously if they like the experience and AOSH fits their needs and they would transition out of the trial accounts to paid accounts just as you would in AWS or other cloud environments. The reason I bring this up on this call I are twofold. one I just want to ensure that everyone is aware currently trial accounts are restricted to providers that are on a white list. so obviously if someone is spinning up a cost trial, we want to ensure that they're running on our most stable so we have a white list of providers that, are the targets for trial deployments. so first of all, I just want to make sure everyone was clear on that. + +Scott Carruthers: and then second and again in support of the community I've recently started getting some questions about increased bid because there's so much activity around I think trial accounts are being very eagerly anticipated and I think the community is very excited to use user accounts when seeing a flood of new activity that increases the bid activity on the network. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Scott Carruthers: so if we have any providers that are curious about increased bid activity and we would obviously have to dig into on a individual basis to see if a provider is wondering why there's increased bid activity. We'd have to validate that it's because of trial counts or possibly it could be for some other reason but I've recently heard or fielded some questions on increased bid activity because of trial accounts. let me know if there's any questions on this, but that's basically the two points that I want to make. So, first of all, I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of trial accounts on the AOS network. and that they're currently limited to providers that exist on a white list. I think we're kind of in the mode right now that if other community providers want to be included on that white list, we're willing to entertain that. + +Scott Carruthers: + +Scott Carruthers: So we do have some community providers on that white list currently and we're open to including others so obviously it's a trial account, but the provider is still realizing profits. if a trial account lands on your provider so it's not like the provider would be hosting free compute at that point. They would actually be compensated in AKT just as they would from any other deployment. So again, the two points that I wanted to make was just one, make sure everyone was aware of trial accounts and its impact on providers and the provider white list and also some increased bid activity on the network. Any questions about trial accounts or any of the provider related bits that I just talked about? + +Tyler Wright: + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, if there's no questions, I think that's it. + +Scott Carruthers: And I don't think I have outside of trial accounts, I don't think I have anything else at the moment. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much,… + +Tyler Wright: Just I know that there's a number of moving parts that are happening soon. obviously with trial wallets, fiat payments, the console experience, all the updates there happening on both the deployment side and on the provider side is Jigger and Deval just walked us through. there's a Cosmos SDK upgrade in the works and again there's some testing that is begun and will continue to happen over the next couple of weeks and beyond. I would just ask anybody listening to this or anybody here today. Again, make sure that you keep reminders on and notifications on especially for channels like the provider announcement channel. + +Tyler Wright: I know that Andre and others share date announcements there. Again, if there's any changes that need to be made across the provider or any call outs usually we put those we put those call outs there because obviously it's a permissionless network people giving their emails not always required. So, yeah, again, if anybody has anything, please please make sure that you look out for those announcement channels and stay up to date on all things there. Cool. All right. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I know we've gone through the agenda and gotten some updates on Akos console and on provider side from Jigger and Dval. Scott went through a bunch of announcements that he's been seeing over the last couple of days related to trial wallets. again, I just want to see if there's any other topics that anybody wants to bring up. I know we've been on here for a little over 20 minutes. but just want to see if there's anything else that anybody wants to talk about at this time. I'm going to take that silence as cool. + +Andrew Mello: + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead, Andrew. Yes,… + +Andrew Mello: Can you hear me now? + +Tyler Wright: can hear you + +Andrew Mello: Okay, great. I just wanted to follow up on the tainted nodes bidding issue that I had brought up on September 18th. that is still an open issue it looks like and that was kind of a priority issue because it affects any user deploying for the first time on a Kosh could potentially hit this bug which leads to a failed deployment. So it's kind of like a critical path that we'd want to make sure is working. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: And so that's issue number 253 in + +Tyler Wright: Yes, I can drop in a note. + +Tyler Wright: And so I apologize for not doing this beforehand. this is something we talked about in SIG support. We've, triaged it and this is a priority issue. There's just a number of other issues that have become higher priority over the last couple of months related to pod stability, related to some other things that again while this is a priority there's other things that have trumped it over the last couple of weeks. the goal is to get back to it very shortly but we're trying to work through some other related issues. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I know again we talked about this in SIG support the core engineering team is only so large and so again we're trying to push through as many issues but I can drop a note in issue number 253 in the support repo to just make sure that it continues to get the attention that it should get. + +Andrew Mello: + +Tyler Wright: But again, there's just not enough time and there's a couple other issues that have been more critical that the core engineering team has been focused on. + +Andrew Mello: So I just wanted to again put it out there so it's on the record that this does affect the first deployment experience for any user and… + +Andrew Mello: again thus I thought it should be looked at again. in addition to that I was going to file a new operator inventory bug. I cannot find stability with mixed GPUs. + +Andrew Mello: in the showing of available versus allocatable. I'm having this issue particularly on again clusters with mixed models. not just one model in a cluster and I'll be filing that today as So again more operator inventory issues. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Andrew, for identifying those and again u much appreciate when you make these issues. we'll look out for that issue and then again triage it like we have another great call Andrew maybe for you to come to if you have availability is a sick support call to talk a little bit more about these but much appreciate you bringing these up and s providers and then again we'll make sure these get u attention. + +Andrew Mello: All right, sounds good. Yeah, I'll see if I can get added to that sixport calendar invite. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. We'll do. Is there anything else that anybody wants to talk about related to the provider on If not then again we'll follow up with some updates in the provider announcements channel and elsewhere as they are made available. So again please look out for those channels if you haven't already. I think Andrew is again going to file a bug related to the inventory operator. so we'll look out for that issue and then again I'll make sure that Andrew is added to the six support call and we can talk a little bit more specifics about triaging and some of the other things Much appreciate the update from Jigger and Dval. again look out from for continued updates testing coming soon. + +Tyler Wright: If anybody has any questions or comments, please feel free to reach out in the six providers or the providers discord channel or elsewhere. But much appreciate everyone's time today and thank you to all those that are listening later. I hope everyone has a great rest of their day and we'll continue to talk online. But thank you all for the updates and the information. + +Andrey Arapov: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate you all. 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This memory demand has presented logistical issues in setting up sufficient test environments. + - **Progress:** Artur shared confidence that testing could yield reproducible results soon, with hopes to proceed by week’s end. +- Artur also noted that this upgrade process has unblocked other network functionalities like basic blockchain interactions, state synchronization, and deployment creation. + +### Validator Expansion and Token Distribution +- Dominikus raised questions on validator expansion, referring to Akash’s Tokenomics document that suggests gradual increases in validator numbers. +- Artur responded that further validator increases could strain network performance due to latency issues, especially during periods of high transaction volume. + - Emphasized the need for decentralizing token distribution among validators, though the current validator cap is considered sufficient. + - Highlighted that anyone can create a validator, but they must secure adequate delegations to enter the active set. +- Tyler added that foundation delegations now require higher standards, including infrastructure robustness and technical capability. + - Noted that as the network matures, foundation delegations are increasingly awarded to participants showing sustained, meaningful contributions to the Akash ecosystem. + +### Community Involvement and Next Steps +- Tyler discussed the ongoing community testing initiatives, encouraging volunteers to assist with SDK 47 upgrade testing. + - Mentioned that additional channels or Discord updates would provide information for interested community testers. + - Urged community members to reach out if interested in joining the testing efforts and to stay active on SIG Chain’s Discord channel for updates. +- Tyler concluded the meeting by reiterating the importance of community engagement in validator roles and thanked participants for their time and contributions. + +## Action Items +- **Artur Troian:** Complete initial reproducible testing for the SDK 47 upgrade by the end of the week. +- **Scott Carruthers:** Continue developing the testing plan for network upgrades and coordinate with volunteer testers. +- **Tyler Wright:** Maintain updates on testing progress and share announcements on the SIG Chain Discord channel. +- **Community Members:** Reach out via SIG Chain Discord to join testing efforts for the network upgrade. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG Chain monthly meeting today is October 8th. 2024 during the Special Interest group for the chain, This group comes together to talk about everything related to the Akash network BLOCKCHAIN. That includes validators relations network upgrades. And just the general health of the chain, + +Tyler Wright: This meeting is led by members of the Overclock Labs Core Team who is built and maintains the Akash network. Usually we talked about again network upgrade related items this month especially and for the past few months we've been talking about the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade which is a massive undertaking led by our turn other members of the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: I know last week we talked async and did not meet because there's just a number of heads down efforts going on again. There was proposal, let's put on chain to support all the work that turn. The rest of team have been doing that proposal pass on chain. And I know that we're getting closer and closer to testing and then potential network upgrade after against some initial internal testing some client testing and then beyond With that said, I will hand it over to Archer to talk about any updates or anything specifically, he wanted to talk about related to the Akash Blockchain. + +Artur Troian: Thanks a Good morning, everyone. it's been quite a while. We can get an update on the Sdk47 and This sort of Could freeze. For the actual upgrade parts, a couple weeks ago and things don't quite well. We've been usually testing it locally just as a reminder, the way we do it is we take a snapshot from current We do think Old Test 95. That allows us to export. and Manet state into the Genesis are also validators set for test purposes and then just use that Genesis as the seed to the desktop and they're just make sure that all of the + +Artur Troian: API changes and the migrations for working correctly. So the SDK 50 actually has the test notification done in place, but as we are trying to own different fight, there's no way. We can reuse that, also our test infrastructure and all of the environment is built using our approach, and I think we're gonna continue using it for the next to disable future. Anyways, one of the challenges that we have is because of some great is so massive. a one node during the upgrade phase must have seen in 70 gigabytes of RAM. So, To do Testing, you obviously need at least two preferably Make sure that the consensus is not broken so that just might multiply memory by three with safety margin. + +Artur Troian: And you can see easily that really for the single tasks. It takes 384 too much 400 wives of RAM that. And You can easily get this machines distributed, but once again, you're random locally, we're trying to run them In the same machine you like local container or just wider to capture walks and make sure that everything is doing. All right there and that was sort of really challenging for us to get those machines. But I think we sorted the swings out and have environments at this stage. So as soon as I have confidence, that environment is producing reproducible results for the testing. You're just gonna cost understand diet and far up. I do hope that we do it this week. + +Artur Troian: But it doesn't necessarily mean that all other work is done. Especially the provider part but that will unblock Everybody and start testing, just basic blockchain, things related to stay in top and sending deployment creation and so forth. Scott is working on the tests, sort of less plan on how things should be done, and you'll be communicating quite shortly. And I think that pretty much summarizes it, any questions. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Artur Troian: Right about you. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate that. Artur again, as Artur just stated, once the initial notify tests are passing. That'll unblock a number of other efforts, including documentation around some of the testing that will get done by, members of the sh Validation etc that have already volunteered their time and efforts to support some initial testing. So again, the idea to test everything across the network state game, just basic deployments etc, to make sure that everything is kind of working as planned, and As desired. I did want to see if anybody had any questions as pertains to next steps. For the network upgrade. + +Tyler Wright: Again, you can kind of track all it's going on inside Github, both inside the projects and then elsewhere. I know the work is again open source, and public Artur continues to work on it. So, does anyone have any questions related to the Cosmos S 47 upgrade. + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any questions or any topics that they wanted to discuss related to just the cash blockchain in general? Validators etc, that they wanted to bring up at this time? Go ahead, tell me. + +Dominikus Brian: Yeah. Hi guys. I will have this little questions The numbers of validators. So I have been revisiting sort of the akas. Paper on the Tokenomics. And it says that the number of delegators and delegations and also validators in general going to increase over time. So we have increased so from 80 something to 100 in recently how this gonna go going forward, how fast that they increase going to happen. + +Artur Troian: I know, so I don't think in general, the increase in the validators. Means to pursue some sort of effort and one of them was to sort of the centralized all of the tokens, right? The issue is we see in this stage, even they use the hundred qualitators, Second distribution is not sort of spread enough to fulfill those Unreadators and Keep in mind that increasing amount of validators has consequences, And one of them is increased latency, especially when I'm usually a huge models transactions and that just can imply on the health of the network. + +Artur Troian: So to be frank with you, I'm yet to see the need to increase the gap. And if there's somebody else needs to become a validator, definitely writer was so far, 200 or 2,000 token state doesn't benefit natural or community as a thing, right? So I would say. There should be quite just 12 reason to input to increase the gap and I believe many networks, including Cosmos. + +Artur Troian: Osmosis I believe they had a little concerns about resin up the limit. Just simply because of the performance construction. But do you have any particular reasons in mind? + +Dominikus Brian: Yeah, because there is guys interested in, becoming file data and they're thinking about if it's possible for them to spin off, too. Actually a cusvale, daters could be independent team. but sort… + +Artur Troian: The … + +Dominikus Brian: instead of one the sort of thinking, too, + +Artur Troian: there is nothing preventing them from spinning, the validator, It's the question is they need to get delegations? And I don't see. + +Dominikus Brian: Yes, that's fine. + +Artur Troian: Yeah, and I don't think, they have to find a way to get a delegations. And being validator is just not only working getting the money. This is the question is either trust for the can I take my tokens there and so forth? And once again there's a huge concern from the development perspective and respect about performance and we've seen + + +### 00:10:00 + +Artur Troian: This is a 25% of existing active set the knowledge show on time for the network of gray and it really gives Susan Burden for entire team to reach out and building them doing them, great times. And it's gonna be just worse. And if you increase the amount threshold on that Tuesday, actually data. But once again, everybody can create a holiday, it's not + +Artur Troian: It's not the creation of the validator is limited in just the amount of interactive style that. So if they create every data and they get an obligations by themselves to at least start or some like a set of mentioned, there is the foundation, delegation they do, something you do for community, they can get delegations as well, so that can help. But just too much to summarize my point. It's not just feasible this moment to do that. + +Dominikus Brian: Okay, great, thank you. ideally proactive and then supportive kind of Played data set, maybe also delegated delegations will be more of interest if they are invested in a long term and active toward contribution. Okay. + +Tyler Wright: yeah, I'll just add + +Tyler Wright: As I participated in the program and help create the framework. Again, if you look at the discussion that I've attached in the Chat, for foundation delegations. the core is looking for folks that are, interested in kind of smaller Drips, there are requirements for receiving foundation delegations, and the idea is that you are contributing something meaningful and long-term to the akash network projects. So I think in the past especially when the network was very new up time and voting was, the criteria think. Now there's so much interest from so many teams and individuals that are looking to validate on their cost network that the criteria for receiving foundation delegations that's just gone up. There's just more And as Artur + +Tyler Wright: And we are interested in folks with the proper infrastructure and the technical capabilities and those are hands-on. Because again in historically there have been a couple of folks in the active set that have not been as technical or hands on So as a network continues to mature again, the validating set values that will continue to mature. I don't know if it necessarily needs to grow but it's Artur mentioned. Anybody can set up a validator on Akash it's just about having the proper amount of tokens to get into the active set which is at a hundred right now and I don't think there's any plan. To increase that anytime soon. + +Tyler Wright: Any other topics related to their cost blockchain network, upgrades or validators that anybody wants to discuss right now. + +Tyler Wright: All again, anticipate hearing from members of the core team sometime soon, on initial testing cases, I know there's some people on this call and in the community, what are going to be listening to this call later that have already again volunteered? Their time to help those people will be called upon when it's time to do some initial testing. So, look out for announcements there, we may have a couple of improv who meetings or Howard or set up a channel for those are testing. So again, just look out for some more information discord. If you want to get involved and have them reached out yet, please reach out to myself or another member of the core team. And we'll point you in the right direction just announce yourself in SIG, Chain Discord, channel. + +Tyler Wright: For Appreciate the update from Archer much appreciate the conversation again, we will be working together. I'm sure soon on all things related to sick chain over the next couple of weeks especially in testing and then there will be updates on when a network upgrade is scheduled and we'll make sure all validators and all folks in the community are aware of that. But again, appreciate everyone time today. I hope everyone has a great rest of your day and we'll talk online soon. I'm sure. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + +Artur Troian: Thanks everyone. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:20:09 👋 + From aa9d8dbf3601ad47043638ebc597de3966c094b4 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 18:59:42 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 06/19] Create meeting notes for Sig-Design #23 (#737) * Create meeting notes for Sig-Design #23 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * sig-design Update 023-2024-11-13.md added transcript and recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md | 289 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 289 insertions(+) create mode 100644 sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md diff --git a/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md b/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0105beef --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,289 @@ +# Akash Network - Design Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #23 + +## Agenda +- Discuss updates on Akash YouTube channel. +- Review ongoing projects related to branding, merchandise, and event designs. +- Updates on Akash website and documentation working group. +- Address pending items from previous meetings and upcoming plans for Akash Accelerate videos. +- Provide an open floor for participant contributions, feedback, and questions. + +## Meeting details +- Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://ji5fpsj5wsui75zccj6ndnhl56hsuy5ygdcwrq4swjapnxdry4dq.arweave.net/SjpXyT20qI_3IhJ80bTr748qY7gwxWjDkrJA9txxxwc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Denis Lelic +- Robert Del Rey +- Tomoyuki Yasukawa +- James +- B S + +## Meeting Notes + +### Introduction and Context (Tyler Wright) +- Provided an overview of the SIG Design group’s responsibilities, including visual communication, marketing, content creation, and merchandise. +- Highlighted the oversight of the Akash YouTube channel and website working groups within SIG Design. +- Announced an upcoming website working group meeting scheduled for the following day to discuss Figma designs and content improvements. + +### Updates on Akash YouTube Channel (Led by Robert Del Rey) +- Shared updates on completed work during phase one of YouTube channel improvements. + - Reorganized content and removed outdated materials to enhance relevance. + - Updated the introduction video to better align with current branding and focus areas like AI and machine learning. + - Improved video descriptions with clear calls to action, relevant links, and a streamlined layout. + - Created visually cohesive thumbnails that adhere to Akash’s branding. +- Addressed the next steps for steering committee videos: + - Discussed fade-in and fade-out adjustments for a polished viewer experience. + - Proposed scheduling and progressively publishing these videos with a dedicated playlist. +- Acknowledged pending work on Akash Accelerate videos, including a recap video summarizing the event. + +### Merchandise and Event Design Updates (Led by Denis Lelic) +- Reviewed the nearly completed Akash events calendar for 2024, with Neural IPS as the last scheduled event. +- Announced plans to update the Akash swag shop using Shopify templates for simplicity and efficiency. + - Intend to add popular merch items showcased at events but currently unavailable in the shop. +- Highlighted the community’s positive response to event stickers, emphasizing plans to create unique designs for future events. +- Encouraged the community to contribute ideas and designs for upcoming merchandise. + +### Branding and Website Updates (Led by Denis Lelic) +- Introduced recent changes to Akash’s branding, including the adoption of new primary and secondary fonts (Intern and serif). +- Shared progress on updates to the branding manual, to be finalized and shared with contributors. +- Briefly discussed recent and upcoming improvements to the Akash Console, including: + - New trial-to-credit card payment journey for users. + - Enhanced deploy options, including GitHub integration. + - Plans to design and integrate new icons for updated features. + +### Community Engagement and Contributions (Tyler Wright and Denis Lelic) +- Recognized the community’s appreciation for Akash’s merchandise and branding efforts, especially stickers. +- Encouraged community members to join the SIG Design group, contribute ideas, and participate in discussions. +- Noted potential collaboration with a team specializing in 2D and 3D animations for future visual projects. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis thanked participants for their positive feedback on recent merchandise efforts and expressed interest in continued collaboration on design projects. +- Tyler emphasized the importance of engaging more contributors to support ongoing design and branding initiatives. +- Participants were invited to the next working group meetings for further discussions on the Akash website and related projects. + +## Action Items +- **Robert:** + - Finalize and upload steering committee videos with appropriate edits. + - Review and publish Akash Accelerate videos, including the recap video. +- **Merchandise and Branding:** + - Denis to finalize Shopify template selection and share options for community feedback. + - Update and share the Akash branding manual with contributors. + - Plan new sticker designs and themes for future events. +- **Website Working Group:** + - Discuss Figma designs and page adjustments in the next day’s meeting. + - Collaborate on documentation and new website features. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG design monthly meeting. It's November 13, 2024. During the special interest group for design, the group goes over all things related to visual communication and marketing on this group is a collection of members from the core team, the community that focus on again content creation both written and video content technical documentation. this special interest group oversees the work of the working group for the Akash YouTube channel as well as the working group for the Akash website and documentation. this special interest group for design also covers everything related to acos. network swag that goes out for different events, marketing materials that also go out for different events. + +Tyler Wright: So again there's a number of communication touch points that get discussed during the special interest group for design. Please if there's anything that you want to talk about specifically for me again we have the working group for the Akash website and documentation tomorrow. I know there's a number of folks that participate there and there's going to be some Figma drawings coming soon that we either talk about here today or talk about tomorrow in terms of adjustments and improvements to pages on the website. but today again we just had a working group with the Kash YouTube channel. + +Tyler Wright: I was specifically want to talk about some of the work that's happened in phase one around the class YouTube including the steering committee videos and see if we can get those listed and out of private status right now. I know that Dennis has also been working on a number of videos that are unlisted right now related to Akos Accelerate 2024 and so I wanted to make sure we can get those videos live. I would like to talk about the banner as it pertains to AOS YouTube. + +Tyler Wright: I know we normally would talk about this during the working group session but some folks had some conflict and then after that if there's time I would love to just talk about a little bit more about the digest this is something that BS has been leading but I just want to figure out if there's any blockers or any issues so that we can get an initial PR out there that kind of goes through what's happening in the community as well as this working groups and stere and special interest group and steering committee on a monthly basis and again continue to fine-tune that piece of content from there. Again, if there's anything else that anybody wants to discuss, drop it in. But I'm going to hand over to Dennis because I know Dennis usually is a leader of this group as the head of product design at Overclock Labs. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, we pretty much talked through the whole intro that I usually do. so one thing I'm not sure if you covered which takes a lot of design resources or our events. this year was a busy year. So we only have one event to go that's neural IPS happening not sure end of the month or beginning of the December. so just like a final final countdown for the event side. + +Denis Lelic: for those of you who are attending these meetings regularly, you probably see we've done a lot of different touch points pretty much everything that events require from booth designs and different materials like merge giveaways. I know Robert here was attending Cosmover, so you probably see some of the stuff that's been done. yeah, and as Tyler mentioned, tomorrow there's a website meeting happening. so I wouldn't take too much time today on that topic. We can go into details tomorrow. + +Denis Lelic: but I think most of the group here is attending that meeting So I'll be happy to see you tomorrow as on the front for the shop.ac.network. I had a look at the Shopify templates. there are some possibilities with the free options. So we don't have to build anything custom. We're going to have a simple Shopify store. So I have my favorite. So I'm just going to share it either on probably Discord. And we'll see if anyone's interested to contribute there as well. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: We have a lot of merch items that are currently not listed in this current shop. So, I'm looking forward to include those that are often seen in the events but not available in the shop. and apologies for not attending the YouTube meeting. I had a conflict. but I just created a note for myself to deliver that banner and I know I owe you guys a lot of even feedback and stuff like that. So I'll make sure I'll be more involved in that group as well. + +Denis Lelic: but if you guys want to talk about anything related, I know you just had a meeting. but if you want to say anything about YouTube, please feel free to. Yeah, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Hi guys, I hope your day is going fine. It's the middle of the week, so yeah, I'm happy to talk a little bit about YouTube and how it's looking so far. I'm ready to share my screen, so I'm going to take over you, Dennis, if you don't mind. All right, thumbs That means Okay, I guess you should be able to see now the Aash YouTube channel homepage, right? This is how we're looking so far. So, in phase one, we mostly reorganize, the existing content. We also deleted some content that was either too outdated or showing people that no longer working in a cache. + +Robert Del Rey: and yeah, we organized this based on the most recent content. We updated the introduction video. before it was a video on what is a cashache. It was like a three years old video and we updated it for this one is more recent. It's a Greg talk and Eric Borheis in the Akash accelerate. This is the thing that subscribers and nonsubscribers see when they visit the Aash YouTube channel. They have for you which is recommended content based on the person our popular these are the videos with the highest view counts. So I guess that's good and normal videos and the future These are videos in other YouTube channels that appear here in the Aash YouTube channel. some of them have a high view count like this one 13,000. + +Robert Del Rey: this one 30,000 and yeah, so we updated also the intro it was only a paragraph but I decided to expand a little bit more about what is a cache, what it does. I tried to add a few keywords like AI machine learning and yeah I don't think of any other links that we're missing here. I guess we're pretty much set as far as this site goes. but we are missing only one thing in my opinion and it's an updated YouTube banner. So yeah that is one thing that I think we're missing. I don't know Dennis if you're working on something like that or maybe you prefer us or BS taking over this and just upload any banner that we come up with. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. we can talk on Discord. + +Denis Lelic: I'm not sure if usually have a group chat but we can put one together where we can just talk about YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I'll be happy to set up that group chat in Discord with us. + +Robert Del Rey: And sorry,… + +Denis Lelic: Cool. Thank you. No, go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: you were sending this Okay. + +Denis Lelic: Go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: And the second thing which I believe is the most critical what Tyler was talking about was our videos that we uploaded. Let me click on our videos here. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: So you can see we managed to upload most of the extering comedy call videos with the updated tailor descriptions based on what we spoke on the call. I took the transcripts and based on what we discuss in each of these calls I came up with the description for these videos of course with the help of AI to make it look better and also added some relevant links to more Aash resources. + +Robert Del Rey: For example, I can open any of these videos and you will see a call to action. After the descript after the description, you will see Another call to action about deploying a cache and the link to a cache console and more ways to connect with a cache network. you see it says more about a cache and you see there's nothing below that but don't threat. the reason why it's that way is because when you leave it that way, YouTube adds some videos below this. So basically what people see is a description and below that they see more about a cache and they see three to four videos suggested to them in the description. if we add a link to a specific video, they will see a thumbnail for that specific video here. + +Robert Del Rey: So, for now, I just decided to leave it empty and let YouTube do its magic. so, yeah, at the moment, all these videos are unlisted, meaning that only people with the link can see these videos. And I'm just here to ask you if we can go ahead and We can either go live now with everybody or we can schedule them and progressively publish these videos. whichever way do you prefer, guys? I'm down. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I wasn't unfortunately involved in these meetings. So, I don't know what you guys have settled on. So, I'm just going to let you roll whatever you guys think is best. if you have any opinion, feel free to + +Tyler Wright: I would like to move forward. + +Tyler Wright: The only thing, Dennis, that I would like to get your quick look at is just to make sure that everything looks good from a fade in and fade out perspective. Everything else is just like the steering committee content. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I would love to just upload all the videos and then figure out a cadence where we're just uploading the most recent steering committee maybe like five days or seven days or some period that's quite short after the steering committee meeting happens. So I would love to get these live and… + +Denis Lelic: That's it. + +Tyler Wright: in a playlist and then we can see if we need to make adjustments from there. I would love to have a steering committee playlist that's fairly high up on the homepage. and then even higher than that, and maybe we can discuss this next, Robert, is Dennis created a bunch of videos for Aos accelerate that I think are unlisted. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: But I would love to get those listed today as + +Robert Del Rey: Sorry guys,… + +Robert Del Rey: I'm writing just to make sure I don't forget what you say about the steering call video playlist. about the fade in and fade out. Let me do a live demo right now so you can see how the videos look. and we can have Dennis blessing. So let me play real quick. It's a quick 5-second intro. Thanks BS for putting this together. And I edit it in a way that you Tai started speaking right away. usually there is some silence and I just cut that to all the videos to all the 20 student committee call videos. + +Robert Del Rey: Also by the end even though we say goodbye it seems some people stay in the meeting after you end So usually the meeting could be 40 minutes but the recording would be 50 minutes. I also edited that dead error just to make sure that when you say we're done the call is done and one second we jump right into the fade out second and then we have the fade out after you take so yeah that's mostly it that and the thumbnails + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: this is how the thumbnails look like. this is the design that we went with. We tried to imitate Dennis the best that we could. You see very big a sitting committee the number of the call I was trying to get some acceleration reference and this is what we came up with and of course the aash low name on this corner. So those are the two or three graphic aspects that we are working with in the YouTube side of Akash. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: I see you've put a lot of work there. I know this editing especially if there's a bunch of videos can be really time consuming. So I think everyone here and the whole Akash community appreciates your help around this. it's been too long since anything happened on the YouTube so looking forward to it. even… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: though even yeah… + +Robert Del Rey: You're going to change that. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: but even though if I would still prefer if we move rather than we look for some perfection so even if a thumbnail is not perfect it has the basic branding rules it has all the necessary information and even the branding changed a month ago where marketing and some people from the core team decided to introduce some new elements of design. you can see those on the website. but I know you did like a lot of work and I wouldn't go back just to redo all of these + +Denis Lelic: thumbnails and so on and so on. but when we maybe do the next steering committee, we can just introduce the new branding. it's not much a bigger difference. We still have the same color and the what changed is this the secondary and primary font. occasionally the serif. Let me just share maybe the ge. Where is it? Yeah. So there's this ser font happening occasionally. And the next change was this font which is not Satoshi anymore. It's intern now. + +Denis Lelic: but yeah, as I said, these steering committees happen in the past anyway. So the branding is relevant to the time that the meeting happened. so I'm okay with all of these thumbnails, intros, outros. so if you guys wish, we can of course move along and do some u uploading. I mean, it's publishing so already uploaded. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, it's already uploaded and the plan works for Dennis, no worries. we can go ahead and keep the new branding in mind for future videos, which they're going to come. I promise you that. And let's do this. after I set up the group chat on Discord,… + +Robert Del Rey: maybe you can share with us the new branding guidelines so BS can have them in mind when designing the banner for the YouTube page. And at least we can have that with the new branding. What you say? + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: I still have to put together this updated branding manual which is also currently on the website and it just needs to be replaced. I think it's somewhere in the footer. it's called brand resources brand. Yeah, this so download logo kit. It's also I believe here a branding manual is included. So I have to update that one thing if you want to talk about YouTube we still have time. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: Otherwise I would just like to cover another topic and that's product design. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: Okay. yes,… + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. … + +Tyler Wright: before we move on, again, I know there's some AOS Accelerate videos. Are those good to publish as well, Dennis? + +Denis Lelic: I can double check just because this happened a while ago six months ago. So just to see what's there I think and all the sessions that happened are there now. But I also have a short recap video of the whole accelerate event and… + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: I can also upload that one. It's a two, three minutes long and it just covers the whole day. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think I would love to. + +Tyler Wright: So, it sounds like Dennis, you want to take a look at that before it goes live, but the steering committee videos can go live? + +Denis Lelic: Okay. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, sounds good. and then real quick shameless plug and then also asking Dennis in public directly following this meeting, there's a SIG clients im During that meeting, the Kosh console team will be giving updates on the product side. I'm inviting Dennis there to talk there as at least listen in and see if there's any feedback, but I would love to talk also about the visual communication elements that he's been working on here. So, we'll hear it in two meetings. Go ahead, Dennis. + +Denis Lelic: Today I have backto back meetings. So that's why I couldn't join the YouTube because it was happening for you the first meeting out of one, two, three, four, five. so I just had to do some so yeah product product let me see okay there's some new additions to the console for those of you who use it regularly you're going to see that this thing changed here where users now can start a trial and there's also an option if you start a trial you're going + +Denis Lelic: user is going to convert to the different journey which is a credit card payment. and here is going to offer a switch between a wallet or a credit card payment. new addition is also for example if you go to the deploy there are new options here. build deploy launch container VM and run custom container and here there are a bunch of featured templates and all of these still need icons so I have to do those as well. + +Denis Lelic: yes and there's also an option to deploy through GitHub. so you just connect your account and connect your Git repository and you're good to deploy things from here as well. I got to say some of the stuff that's been newly added is not really just design contribution because developers use this UI component library where they just pull anything they need but if a certain new feature is added where let's say a complete new journey + +Denis Lelic: journey is added then sick design gets involved as So yeah, that's from the front of product design and there's a lot of new features coming to the console in the near future. I know they've been testing some of the stuff, but we'll talk about it when it live or in an hour or half an hour in the next meeting. yeah. Anything else you guys want to talk? We still have Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: I always have something to say, no, but yeah, really quickly, Dennis, I wanted to also congratulate you about the designs, both for the merch. I'm actually wearing the white Aash Super Club t-shirt now. people Loved it. They also love the black one with the cloudy logo in the back. And the stickers, if they did a sticker competition in Cosmog, a cash would have won the number one. And I will tell you why. Neutron had really good stickers. But if you didn't know anything about the project, you wouldn't know they are from Neutron. But a cash stickers, they cover everything. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: the aesthetics was good, the material was very good, but also the reference to a cash network were also very very clear. So that's why for me the stickers got the first place as far as the best stickers go and just wanted to share that with the merch was really and many people passed by the booth and they were impressed by the stickers. They like the Falcon. They like the Bur Khalifa for the Dubai edition, but they also talk about the previous editions and how they were collecting the stamps and stuff about different places where a cashache has been. And quickly wanted to share that,… + +Robert Del Rey: really really good job that + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I heard some stories about stickers and people collecting them across different events. I should order maybe a couple of them just to have them stored for the archive somewhere. yeah, but it's good to hear. we have big plans for the whole merch in the next season. so we're probably going to introduce more designs, more items, different themes, and I think as far as I can hear from others and u you as well, those stickers are like a big hit. So we're just going to continue in the next season. + +Denis Lelic: with the whole new bunch of stickers for each of these events. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: So, we're just going to try to always do something unique. + +Tyler Wright: Shout out Dennis. + +Tyler Wright: One other thing real quick. just as a reminder if anybody here on the call or in the community whether it's live events in their own communities and other places again finds people that want to contribute whether it be visual communication content creation please point them in the direction of SIG design. I just saw there was a team that's interested in supporting I think they do 2D and 3D animation. + +Tyler Wright: but again we want to get as many of these teams to join the Discord channel, share their thoughts, ideas, portfolios, and then if they can join one of these live meetings where we can see where they can contribute and add value. I know Dennis is working on 9 million things, has meetings back to back. He still kills it. But again, any support that we can get, I know Dennis would greatly appreciate in terms of new marketing materials, branding, support materials, etc. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks it's not always that bad regards to meetings. Today is just one of those days where a lot of them happen back to back. + +Tyler Wright: That's right. + +Denis Lelic: I would appreciate any design help of course. So thanks and I'll make sure I'll join the next YouTube meeting. I know I said that a bunch of times but no gota got to be there. if you guys want to talk anything else, we do still have time. otherwise, we can just use this time to work on something else. but we'll see each other in 30 minutes in a different meeting. So clients all of you are invited. So see you there. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: And then maybe we'll talk about the blog around the Akash digest during the working group for the Akash website when maybe Bold Panther is there and… + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Bye-bye. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Tyler Wright: we can just talk about what a PR looks like, any design assets, etc. So, if not today at S Clients,… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: then we'll certainly see you hopefully tomorrow. And much appreciate everyone's time and energy. Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you guys. + +Robert Del Rey: See you tomorrow. + +Tyler Wright: All right. 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Key deliverables include: + - Producing four technical educational videos per month. + - Hosting two technical workshops per month on Akash tools or relevant topics. + - Leveraging high-quality production to address feedback regarding the readability and accessibility of existing content. +- The goal is to use the next 4–6 months to: + - Increase views to 50,000. + - Grow watch hours to 5,000. + - Gain 2,000 new subscribers. + +### **Separation of YouTube Channels** +- Robert suggested splitting the Akash YouTube content into: + - An **official Akash Network channel** for polished technical videos. + - A **community channel** for working group calls, SIG recordings, and community-created content. +- The rationale is to maintain a clear and professional image on the official channel while allowing creativity and diversity on the community channel. +- Tyler highlighted the importance of keeping the Akash Network channel as a community resource and integrating the proposed community channel closely with existing efforts. + +### **Community Collaboration** +- Robert introduced a potential team for Phase 2: + - Himself, Piyush ("Black Panther"), and Akash Alpha, with roles spanning video editing, animation, and technical content. +- Tyler supported leveraging community talents and suggested outreach to identify additional contributors for content creation, editing, and documentation. + +### **Goals and Future Plans** +- The team’s target metrics include making the channel eligible for the YouTube Partner Program to enable monetization and integration with the Akash merchandise shop. +- Discussions will continue in SIG Design to finalize deliverables and align with core team strategies. + +### **Cadence for Meetings** +- Robert proposed continuing the current three-week meeting cadence, increasing frequency if needed during later phases of Phase 2. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Finalize the banner design for the YouTube channel. + - Share the Phase 2 proposal document for feedback on GitHub and Discord. + - Continue assembling the team for educational content production. + - Draft initial scripts and topics for the first technical videos. + +- **Tyler Wright**: + - Facilitate alignment between the proposed community channel and Akash Network’s strategic goals. + - Identify and connect additional community contributors with Robert. + +- **B S**: + - Collaborate with Robert to finalize the banner and thumbnails. + - Participate in discussions during the SIG Design meeting for further alignment. + +- **M R**: + - Review the Phase 2 proposal and provide insights or suggestions. + +- **General**: + - Promote the Akash YouTube channel across personal and professional networks to meet growth targets. + - Encourage community members to join working group discussions and contribute to the channel’s development. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to the working group for the Akash YouTube channel. It is November 13th. 24. This is a working group that came out of the SIG design special interest group. The goal of this working group is really to overhaul and continue to monitor and maintain the Akash YouTube channel. As we have discussed a number of times, a Kos YouTube channel could be a great resource for exploration around the just introduction to the Akash network. And then the goal is to find people in the community that can help contribute to creating videos that can be hosted on the Akash YouTube. find people that can help edit videos from various talks etc. + +Tyler Wright: so that again we can continue to develop and evolve the Akash YouTube as just another resource for people to technically understand Akos at the highest level and all in between. Robert has been leading a number of efforts through some work that he has talked about insect design. there was a community support funds that he was able to leverage to do phase one. I want to get phase one around the steering committees live here today. my hope is that some members of the sig design will be able to join here today. Otherwise, I want to do it during sig design and get again some of the work that Robert has done around the steering committee videos live. + +Tyler Wright: I also want to talk about the banner on the homepage and start to get some action items around some additional content. I know we should clean up the Akash YouTube channel homepage so that it has the most up-to-date information. I know there's a number of talks that have happened over the last couple weeks. Dennis has created a bunch of videos for the Akash Accelerate that I don't believe live yet. so there's a number of items that we can do to improve the Akash YouTube channel immediately based upon work that's already been done. And then I would love to talk about work that we can start to think about for the future in terms of next steps and phases. I just want to see if there's anything that else that anybody wants to discuss here today. + +Tyler Wright: Robert, I know that you typically have an agenda for some of these meetings and so I don't want to take away from your agenda,… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: but those are some of the things that I was hoping to talk about and get accomplished today. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: Tyler. yes, I guess phase one was really nice in helping us organizing and come up with a plan for the YouTube page. we did some cleanup with some of the older videos. we also came up with a playlist. We created a new playlist and starting arranging videos based on the name of the playlist. we also changed the introduction video that people see when they join the Aash YouTube channel. We updated it for one of the talks that Greg had in the Aash accelerate summit. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, basically what I'm looking forward the most is what you were saying about the graphics. we are still missing the banner on the YouTube channel, but that's mainly it. I believe for the thumbnails, we basically nailed the design. I still haven't got word on Dennis on that, but the thumbnail design looks very similar to what we had, so it doesn't disrupt the current aesthetics of the channel. so yeah, I guess phase one was really solid I guess we can take that to the SIG design call, but what I mainly want to talk about was about phase two of the Aash YouTube channel. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. … + +Robert Del Rey: where do I start? All right. So, yeah. Tyler, we are totally in line when you say that a cash YouTube channel should be like a channel where people can find resources about a cashache. it should be a place where people can find technical information about the things they can do on a cache network and should be like an extent of us on discord we have a lot of developer support on Twitter there are a lot of integration news partnerships news and I believe we're lacking a little bit in the educational aspects. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: We have tried to do educational campaigns in the past, but I guess YouTube can be a great place to put our efforts in spreading education about a cashache through professional educational videos. So yeah, I have a proposal for you guys and this is about the Aash technical YouTube channel. basically our plan is to expand a cache YouTube and we want to create consistent high quality educational content about the tools you have in a cache and about the capabilities of a cache network. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, if you go to the current estate of the Akash YouTube channel, you barely can find some up to-date videos about And one thing I noticed is that some of the videos don't have of the best quality. actually we got some comments saying that we should do some videos again because people can't read the fonts in the videos. so yeah, I guess there is a significant need for professional n technical videos showcasing a cash network. So, what I'm want to propose to you is that we can assemble a team of people. I've been thinking about some people in the community that can help us making this a reality. + +Robert Del Rey: initially I want to run phase 2 between four to 6 months and what we want to deliver to Akash it's basically four technical educational videos per month meaning that each week Aash is going to have a new technical video uploaded in the channel and besides that we also want to provide two technical workshops per month covering the key developments of Aash or any desired topic that we discussed in the Akash YouTube working group. this is another idea. I mean I just gave you the overview of what we want to do with the Aash technical YouTube channel and this is just a crazy idea. I'm going to drop it now and you can let me know what you think. + +Robert Del Rey: But we believe that it would be better if the official Aash channel stays as a technical library for videos and we create another Aash community channel where we can upload the working group calls, the special interest group calls and also community members content that they do. And the reasoning behind that is that we can keep the official Lakash YouTube channel clean with only technical videos and if people want to go deeper and find other aspects of the Akash community, they can go to this Akash community YouTube channel. It's an idea that we have, but if you believe that it's better to have all types of content in one single channel, I'm also down for that. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: So I will stop real quickly and after this overview maybe you can let me know your initial thoughts about this proposal. + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: I like the idea. + +Tyler Wright: Is there a brand that you are thinking about developing or is this something that you'll be starting from scratch + +Robert Del Rey: Actually since Cosmoverse, I've been working on this draft and discussing about the ideas, about the content that we will cover, about the cost like the proposal is mostly ready to share to the world. the people that I'm working with right now, it's me. + +Robert Del Rey: We also have Push also known as Ball Panther and another person is Akash Alpha. you might have seen him on Twitter. he's very avid with editing and animations and I believe he will do a great job as an editor and to record this technical stuff. I believe Push and the team can help us out nailing that. yeah. Yeah. also, I don't know the possibility of this, but I would like to have Sack, you Tyler, and also Dennis helping us out as maybe our project sponsors so you can guide us and make sure that we remain aligned with the Aashore team. I mean, we are experienced insiders. I've been an insider for two years. B Panther, I believe it's older than me in the community. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Akash Alpha is new but his commitment speaks for itself but still we would like to remain close to the core team as possible to have guidance and alignment and tips and just make sure that this campaign can be the more satisfactory as possible for the Aash network. + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know what you mean about working with a brand honestly you refer to an agency or something like that. + +Tyler Wright: No, no. + +Tyler Wright: As you were talking about this kind of separate YouTube channel, I was thinking about somebody like Akash Alpha that already has their own brand being built and is doing their own content separate of obviously the official Akos Network social media and really the folks that you described, yourself, Bold Panther, Akash Alpha I think would be a great group of people to collaborate on these kinds of ideas. + +Tyler Wright: So, I was wondering were you going to call the channel, Akash blah blah blah, but it sounds like you all have the three people in question can come up with a brand that can grow its own wings and… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: be closely aligned with the core team but again have its own identity. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks, man. + +Robert Del Rey: In that case, we haven't talked much about the branding. We just call it the Aash community YouTube channel. for the moment, it's a placeholder name, I guess. But we can put some thought into branding if necessary. + +Tyler Wright: My only concern with that is the Akash network YouTube channel is supposed to be an Akash community channel. That's why we're having these working group sessions so that anybody from the community can talk about ideas, share ideas for that specific channel. It sounds like it'll be creative directed and… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: have ownership and direction from Bull Panther, Robert Del Rey, and Akash Akos Alpha. + +Robert Del Rey: I got my unit. + +Tyler Wright: So that might have a different voice and message and kind of direction than the official Akash networks which should be communityowned which is why we're meeting about it here. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes. Yes. That's why the idea to have a separate channel came from because P and I were talking about that making the Aash network channel a technical library where people can only find these kind of technical videos. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: And the good thing I have about having a separate community channel is that it will give us some space to be creative, improvise and upload all kinds of videos about a cashache in another channel. So that is the main reasoning behind it. + +Tyler Wright: Sounds good to me. + +Robert Del Rey: Awesome, I'm happy you like it. I have the draft document. We are still trying to nail down the costs and some other information but what we want to do the objective the timeline even the contents that we want to cover first we already have them. + +Robert Del Rey: so yeah so yeah some goals that we have is that for example at the time that I was finishing up the document yesterday a cashache got almost 20,000 views in the last year with 600 new subscribers in the last year and 1,200 watch hours in the last year. So, we're planning to use these numbers to measure our success. But some initial goals that we have is raise the views to 50,000 in the next four to six months that we're going to run this campaign. We want to increase the views to 50,000 views, the watch hours to 5,000 watch hours, and try to get at least 2,000 subscribers in the next four to six months. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: it's a big goal but we feel confident in ourselves in the team that we are assembling we call it A team and also having these numbers will make Akash eligible to become a YouTube partner and by becoming a YouTube partner Aash can monetize from ads on YouTube so we can get some income from YouTube and also we can link external shops like the Aash shop and sell a cash merch directly on YouTube. So that's why also we came up with these numbers. again it's a big goal but we feel confident that we can make it happen. So I can share the link with you so you can have a look at the document and yeah you can let us know what you think man. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: we believe this can be very very beneficial not only for a cash but for the people discovering this YouTube channel there are some projects that I can share as example also that you go to their channels and maybe they don't have many videos but you can learn all that there is to learn about those projects in the 15 to 20 videos that they have available and those videos again cover critical aspects of the project how the project works what things can you do as a developer in a project and… + +Tyler Wright: Love it. + +Robert Del Rey: and things like that. So yeah. Yeah. thank you for coming to my tech And the timeline I know that for the holidays it's the almost December and people like to take breaks and rest during the holidays. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: So we want to bring this up to discussion on GitHub for Dember. and hopefully share the proposal on chain we can start January 2025 full esteem with a plan with a budget and with the people ready to make this happen. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Love it. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks I appreciate your support Tyler and everybody's support on this. again, this is not set in a stone yet. So if you guys listening now or listening to the recording, you have an extra idea,… + +Robert Del Rey: feedbacks or maybe you have experience working on YouTube, it would be awesome if you can reach out and get involved. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. On that note,… + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: I know Robert, you went to Cosmoverse. it was always great to see if there's anybody else out in the community that is looking to get involved in newer pro in projects. Obviously, Akasha has been around here for a while, so it's not newer, but again, we're certainly at the point where there are funds available to those that want to make contributions, especially in the areas of video content creation, editing, technical documentation, writing, etc. So, please reach out to myself, Robert, anybody that you feel comfortable with on Discord. join these meetings, look to get involved. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, Robert, I might say save some of the agenda items around getting the steering committee page live and some of the other things for SIG design because some of the folks that were going to be here have conflicts now just trying to get some design deliverables over the finish line. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: Are you able to join SIG design in 38 minutes? Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, I'll be there. + +Robert Del Rey: I'll be there. I told P and Akash Alpha to join this call, but maybe they had conflicts as So I will join to the design, but I will tell them if they can also join to the design call. So maybe we can keep chatting about this and graphics and stuff in the design. Awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, that would be great. as of right now, I believe that this meeting is weekly. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: No, it's a one-off meeting. + +Robert Del Rey: At the moment I believe every three weeks works good based on the stage that we are in this project. + +Tyler Wright: It's a one-off meeting. Do we want to It's every 3 weeks on Wednesday. Is that a good cadence for this meeting? as we continue to move forward and we can just again meet every three weeks. or do we want to meet more regularly? + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe after we start the discussions about our future plans maybe we can increase the candence cabins to a weekly setting… + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Robert Del Rey: but at the moment I believe three weeks is good and any topic that maybe we don't chat about we can also discuss it in the design call. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, they're very handtoand I believe. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, Thank you for taking care of that tie and yeah. Yeah, that's all for me at the moment. + +Tyler Wright: Me as well. again some folks if people have time please join SIG design think we'll talk a little bit more about just again implementation and not Dennis Robert if you can be screen share ready I would love to get some of those things from unlisted to listed and live during SIG design because we have a number of stakeholders that will be there I would also be interested BS if you can make it yourself. I know that previously you and I have been working together on some ideas around like a digest or a blog that does a roundup of the SIGs and working groups. I would love to revisit that especially with Dennis and some other members of the community that can help edit it. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I would love for this to be an item that, BSU or somebody else or a couple people from the community can own outright and then, make a PR and then if there edits that need to be made, I can look at that PR and just make those edits and help merge it. but again, I would love to get that off the ground because I think it's important asset and something the community has been asking for. and something that a team or a couple individual contributors can certainly add value to. So we can talk about that a little bit more in SIG design as well. Is there anything else as it pertains to Akos YouTube that anybody wants to discuss right now that we haven't talked about already? Cool. All right. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: We'll meet here every go ahead, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: … + +Robert Del Rey: I can do a shameless plug if I went to Cosmover 2024 this year. Thank you so much, Akash, for making it a reality. And as every year, I came up with an unoffial the after movie, it's live. So I will share the link and if you have time you can see it and yeah that's that because if the video is on YouTube that's why I'm sharing it here on the YouTube working group call. All right forgive me. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah that's all for me. thank you for joining guys and see you in the next call. So you're in the design call. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you all. + +Tyler Wright: Talk to you soon. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:26 👋 From 01d669f93e125d47f25c1b3ae9c8c529e03156e0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 21:27:42 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 08/19] Create meeting notes wg-website #35 (#713) * Create meeting notes wg-website #35 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 035-2024-09-05.md added transcript and recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md | 257 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 257 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6d69b429 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md @@ -0,0 +1,257 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #35 + +## Agenda + +- Review updates on the Akash ecosystem page, new menu structure, and provider page +- Overview of completed and ongoing issues in the Akash website GitHub repo +- Discuss updates to the pricing and earnings page with GPU pricing and calculators +- Improvement ideas for the development and community pages, including calendar integration +- Feedback on community contributions and content organization +- Plans for new GitHub deployment feature and user support + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, September 05, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://qkbc3hykcn5filece3rlfxtdqyksijqgqtvl333dzyuoz3xzcj4q.arweave.net/goItnwoTelQsgibist5jhhUkJgaE6r3vY84o7O75Enk) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Participants + +- Denis Lelic +- Dimokus +- Hiroyuki +- James Kano +- Phantom +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- shiny dev +- 亀人小河 + + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Ecosystem Page and Provider Page Updates** + - Denis highlighted recent updates to the Akash ecosystem page, which now includes several new projects. + - The ecosystem page includes new dropdown options to enhance navigation and user experience. + - A dedicated Provider Page was launched, allowing users to view network capacity and access provider-specific details like uptime and resources. + +- **Menu and Navigation Redesign** + - Piyush shared the latest menu redesign, which introduces primary and secondary navigation options, dropdowns, and external links for easier access to stats, the swag shop, and the product and engineering roadmap. + - Users can now access community resources more seamlessly, and the new design improves usability on mobile devices. + +- **Pricing and Earnings Page Enhancements** + - The new Pricing and Earnings Page features: + - Updated GPU pricing calculator with availability indicators for different chipsets. + - A Pricing Calculator with sliders to adjust resource selection and compare costs with providers like AWS, GCP, and Microsoft. + - A Provider Earnings Calculator```````` to simulate monthly earnings based on the resources provided. + - Call-to-action links direct users to the console for deployment, aiming to streamline the user journey for prospective providers. + +- **Development Page and Community Calendar** + - Denis discussed plans to make the development page more visually appealing and easier to navigate by segmenting content into digestible sections with clear calls to action. + - Suggested integrating a **sticky community calendar** to provide users with meeting schedules, and allow switching between daily, weekly, and monthly views. + - Robert proposed adding video previews of working group calls to the community tab to give users insight into different community roles and responsibilities. + +- **Community Contributions Page** + - Denis and Piyush discussed expanding the community contributions page to allow members to contribute blog posts and upload their projects. + - Piyush suggested a new feature allowing community members to publish blogs on a dedicated page, which will be distinct from official Akash blog content. + - Action items include refining PR templates for easier community participation and making contribution links more visible. + +- **GitHub Deployment Feature** + - Piyush shared a new feature in development, enabling users to deploy applications directly from GitHub to the Akash network, eliminating the need for extensive technical setup. + - This feature is currently in testing and will be limited to Python-based applications initially. + - Denis suggested adding information on the development page to guide users to this feature, especially for projects compatible with Vercel or Render. + +-**Closing Remarks** +- Denis thanked participants for their ongoing contributions to the Akash website and highlighted the importance of enhancing usability for both new and returning users. +- The next meeting is scheduled for two weeks from today, with ongoing discussions to be continued in the Discord and GitHub repositories. + +## Action Items +- **Denis** + - Finalize menu navigation, ensuring dropdowns and external links function as expected. + - Highlight community contribution guides on the website and link to GitHub PR templates. + - Add resources and call-to-action buttons to the development page to improve accessibility for new users. + +- **Piyush** + - Complete the provider page updates, including network capacity details and dedicated resources. + - Integrate video examples for working group calls within the community tab to provide greater context for prospective contributors. + - Finalize testing and prepare the GitHub deployment feature for release, with a focus on documentation and onboarding for users. + +- **Robert** + - Work with Denis and Piyush to create video content for the working group calls to support community onboarding and understanding of different roles. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey, everyone, and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website before we get started. Can you hear me? You probably do, Okay, that's great. So + +Denis Lelic: As usual, I suggest we have a look at the current state of the website and the issues. That are living in our github repo. I'll share it in the chat section, so you can follow along. + +Denis Lelic: I'm gonna share this tab as well. So, Several things. Were solved in the previous, two weeks. So updating Akashi Ecosystem page with the latest relevant projects. There's a bunch of new projects that are currently available to have a look at in the Ecosystem page. So, if you have a look, Just click on the eco Page on the network and here you can already see Where we got the Venice AI Prime intellect and so And so, on, all of these were added Not too long ago, so I believe. In the previous week. So, It's good. + +Denis Lelic: I'm gonna drop a comment here so We can just close this issue. We have three issues that were combined into one. They're good one PR. So I'm looking at Main and nav and secondary, nap redesign, and the second one is going to be case studies. And the third one is going to be + +Denis Lelic: share this step as So main NAV review design and the secondary as well. So, adding case studies page and also, Reorganizing The two main network provider pages. + +Denis Lelic: So, we're going to have Some of the work that was done by Piyush and Human Age. Queued team. So, the new menu experience kind of looks like this. So we're introducing dropdowns previously. + +Denis Lelic: Users would have to click on each of these pages. And then in the next page, kind of select. What exactly do they want? But now we got these options and also on the secondary level. We are including these external links for Akash stats, Swag, shop product and engineering roadmap. + +Denis Lelic: it kind of looks like this, so users can just click through. We got the Akash Network Providers page which is new as well, just the dedicated page for providers. Which two options. So Users can switch between network capacity and cache providers. So, in the capacity page, we can see all the resource that are currently offered. We have this map as well. And providers is basically just a list of all the providers that are currently on the network. So yeah, this is the secondary NAV. and this is, The new main nav where drop downs are introduced. So kind of works. + +Denis Lelic: Like this. + +Denis Lelic: And we got the case studies as well. + +Denis Lelic: So if you go to the ecosystem page, there are three options which are showcase tools deployed on We Got and case studies are + +Denis Lelic: It's already open. So we got case studies as well, and these are taking users to a Blog section where we have this tag with case studies and all of these are basically case studies. Per fold from the block section. Okay. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: so, Currently this issue the PR is gonna combine three issues. The first one as I said is going to be the menu, second one is going to be the case studies and the third one is going to be providers just like a dedicated page or providers, but in the previous week or two weeks ago, there was Pricing and Earnings A new page that was introduced. It's reachable through the main menu right here so you click on it and then users are offered. This is a staging link I might as well. Through the live pricing and earnings. and we have a slightly redesigned GPU pricing page with + +Denis Lelic: all the chipsets, we got this new thing here, which is kind of indicating how many available on Website chipsets are on the network. We got the pricing which is taking users to the console where they can directly. Run the GPU. So we got the second option here is Pricing Calculator. Users can hear use the slider + +Denis Lelic: kind of play around with it and How much? + +Denis Lelic: What it cost based on the selected resources here and the price here is provided. So at the same time, what are we doing? We're offering as well. Price comparison. with the Avs, Google and Microsoft. So we can see here as well. A percentage, how much Akash would be cheaper if we would go? + +Denis Lelic: Akash basically. Yeah, so a call to Action to deploy now, which takes users to the console + +Denis Lelic: So there's the third option as Well. Provider Earn Calculator. There's another slider where any user, who's basically interested in providing compute to the network. Can Play around with these sliders and see how much would they earn? if they decide to provide resources, To the network. So basically becoming a provider on the cash. So, There's the Total Monthly Earnings section. And it's also providing the same value in A Users can use the 30 day average price for Akt. So it's kind of change changes and we got the estimated breakdown How much would + +Denis Lelic: A provider earn on a specific resource, so such as memory storage and so on and so on. so yeah, this is kind of new addition to the website and there's plenty of + +Denis Lelic: issues. As you can see here, that needs to be solved and hopefully we're gonna improve their experience. We cover a week and month after month. So we're adding new things where we will be adding A new pages, new sections and so on and so on and so on. So yeah, that's about it for covering what's been done? In previous, So in the next two weeks, there's A couple of issues that are as well. I would like to solve one would be, of course, the issue we just talked about. So, the main NAV providers and the third one was + +Denis Lelic: Case Studies. So I would like to merge that as soon as possible so we can build on top of that. So I'm thinking we should have a look at the developers page. In kind of look for ways to enhance. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: On the whole experience there. So I'm talking about this page, so development, We're standing off with open source community getting started, and so on, and on, and a calendar as well. It's quite heavy with + +Denis Lelic: With text. So I was just thinking What can we do to make sure this page is kind of a bit more inviting. So we're kind of splitting all of this content into different Shapes and forms sections and so on. So it's kind of easier to digest and we are leading the user. + +Denis Lelic: With information would call the action and so on and so on. So you basically already have an issue created for this and think it's was the first one that was created by Tyler, but it kind of evolve over time. So as you see here, I've added some ideas. + +Denis Lelic: maybe we start here. So we're kind of looked like We would just split all of that text and provide different resources. I got to share So I was just thinking about, Distributing that content into smaller digestible pieces. So users could consume that in which more visual appealing way. + +Denis Lelic: Along with that, I think we can include a community calendar, a bit more prominently, and we would basically create a sticky button and If we use it as high as to click on it, it's going to just pop up and open up all the meetings that are happening today. But it is also an option to switch between monthly daily view, and so on and so on. + +Denis Lelic: And I think we have another. + +Denis Lelic: this one is talking about community groups. Again, we have this new menu experience here, but the community groups are kind of presented this way are often three switches between six working groups and steering committee. And this can just play around. And visit all of these groups have a What's happening in Github discord when the meaning is happening. basically information for the specific group, Let's see, what else do we have here. So we have the first page of the development. So get involved. I was thinking if we could + +Denis Lelic: offer some of the resources that are currently living either in Akash network support discussions like Github docs all as the Kind of like they go to deployment tool, external links for how to contribute code of conduct. We can also showcase some of these + +Denis Lelic: Akash network GitHub, a repose. And there are open source so we can highlight some of those again community groups. As I said the six working groups and Extreme Committee maybe we can showcase some of the popular deployment templates as well. So, this is just the draft, it's still working in progress, so, Hopefully, we're gonna reach the stage where we're gonna say, it's ready for implementation, send it out to any takers who are willing to work on this. If someone is interested, please drop a comment here and I'll make sure to review it. We're gonna plan it and so on and so on. + +Denis Lelic: yeah. I think we kind of covered what happened in the past was gonna happen in the future. So if you guys have any questions, feel free. + +Denis Lelic: to ask, of course, + +Denis Lelic: or if you find something and you think we need a new feature, we need a new addition. On the website. You can always create an issue in the website. Keep Github repo and you can discuss it over there. Yeah. Robert go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Denis, first of all a great job. Only what you actually doing here, it looks. Really. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: Is it just me? But I can't hear you. Maybe it's my + +Robert Del Rey: But once. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Robert. Can you try again? I just unplug my headphones. maybe I'll be able to hear as I saw your hand went up but I'm not sure. + +Robert Del Rey: What about now? + +Robert Del Rey: Still. + +Denis Lelic: I can't hear you, sorry. + +Denis Lelic: But I hope all of you guys can hear me. So, I hope that all of that chitchatum went to nothing. + +Denis Lelic: And I say, peers just joins so Piyush is one of the main contributors to the Akash website. But I guess I'm having some speaker issues piyush. If you want to talk and the rest of the crew can hear you go ahead. We just covered some of the issues that are + +Denis Lelic: That were solved and some of the issues that you worked on such as the new menu Experience and Case Studies, and Providers page. We had a look at the interview pricing page as well, which is live already. I think The issue. You have any words feel free to speak otherwise if you're not currently, can't speak if you're traveling or anything. We can always talk on discord as well. + +Piyush: Yeah, so I think most of the issues have already been covered by So instantly as we all know, we have revamped the whole pricing page, which is already on the website. But integrations of GPU pricing uses calculator as well as the provider and calculated. And the next issue that we are going to resolve is the completely wampbox the Navigations. So, as the number of pages are going, it is very important to event how the navigation is being updated, moving forward to provide an easier access to all the pages that is coming in. So I think that's pretty much it. + +Piyush: we were also working on providers integrations The providers page is expected across under the ecosystem. what we'll be doing is we'll just launch a dedicated provider page. We're integrate all the resources related to the providers. Yeah, that's very much from my side. + +shiny dev: Thanks for your + +Denis Lelic: But I have no idea of anyone is talking. I see Piyush, I see. Robert is not muted as well, so just please let me know in the comment section when you guys finish. Sorry. + +shiny dev: That's okay. + +Robert Del Rey: Can you guys hear me now? + +Piyush: Yeah, we can hear. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, you both hear me? Denis, I don't know if you don't hear me. That's totally fine. Let me say what I want to say. First of all, the Web page is coming up. Really good. Thank you for this effort, guys. I want to go to the Community tab. Denis, mentioned That if we have ideas, For making this page more welcoming to the community, which is shared them, and I believe the calendar. It's a great first step. I would think about, + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: About the cold recordings they call recordings. We're gonna upload them on YouTube. So I guess instead of letting people know that we have these calls which should show them that we have these scores and they have it. And how we have it. So, for example, in this section that's this working groups. Maybe we can add a video for the Syrian Working Group call and that can be a good example for people who want to get more information about the city calls and the working group calls, but that was the quick feedback. Maybe. Videos about the working group calls so people can see right away what they are about instead of really about them. Hopefully, that makes sense. and yeah so far it looks pretty good. + +Robert Del Rey: Another common that I would say. It's about community contributions. + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know if you ever thought about making it easier for people to Click on something. And have a PR ready for them to fill it up and submit the community contribution staff. I remember it was suggested a while ago. And the goal for that was to let the same community member of load, the things they do on a cache onto the Akash website so it's still possible, right? + +Robert Del Rey: But it's not as clear or as easy as it could be, in my honest opinion. So maybe that's something that you can consider. Those are the two main points I can share it over. and besides that, everything looks really, really cool. I especially like the pricing a page and how the GPUs look when you look for them. And since I happened, Mike, let me say the secret word for In case somebody it's interested. Remember it's w W or Word Y Web. And that was my Ted talk. Thank you guys. + +Piyush: Yeah. Thanks Robert. I think that's a great suggestion. So we'll definitely look into it. So, special issues that are open. I think we already have a plan. To make it easier for the committee members to contribute to the website. There will be extending the community contributions from shark to also allow them to write the blocks right now. What are contributions the community wants to make in terms of blog, they go to the blog page but moving forward will probably integrate the block functionality to the Community Contributions page. So the contributions made by community space, when the community contributions and the official things stays on the block. So yeah, that's the plan and hopefully, Will be able to recommend it very soon. Thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks Piyush. I just dropped out of this meeting and rejoined so I can hear you guys Robert in the chat section. I've shared A link to the github repo of the cash website. So, if you just scroll down a little bit Piyush, did a great job and + +Denis Lelic: there's a section how to contribute to Akash website, I'll drop the link here. So it says, how to contribute to the Akash website? there's a detailed guide, how to write a blog, how to add new events, edu, how to contribute to the community contributions, how to add projects to the ecosystem and so on and so on and on. So everything is there. But yeah maybe we just need to highlight that somewhere on the website. so, + +Denis Lelic: Maybe we'll provide a link in the section of community contributions and just link to that thing that I've shared in the chat section. And of course, as Piyush said, We're going to introduce a complete new section for the community can be contributions where a Britain blog post could live and of course, many different things. So sorry again, for I couldn't hear you previously. So, I had to drop out of this call and rejoin. And it works if I turn on my VPN somehow. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: It's Google. Don't want you to use VPNs as a reason. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: And thanks The instructions actually look really clear. + +Piyush: He? + +Robert Del Rey: I just didn't know this existed. So thanks again for sharing. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, no worries. Yes Piyush. + +Piyush: Also like to highlight that. + +Denis Lelic: Go ahead. + +Piyush: So for the past few months, we were working on a solution that would allow the users to deploy their application directly from GitHub on the docs network. So we were testing the feature internally and it's performing really well. So, hopefully within the next few days or probably weeks to be weeks, it will live on the official console site. We have also received a community grand for the same, so, + +Piyush: I hope this feature will bring in a lot of users, both because it will just eliminate the needs for the users to know how to write an SDL, how to create a Docker knowledge. they just can connect their GitHub. the first three, they want to deploy and just hit the block button on with Akash console. So The feature is limited to how Python applications. We can say, whatever is deployable on versa or random will be deployable in akashed through this picture. So yeah, that's all for myself. It's a little bit out of context but yeah, a little bit from our side. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I think that's Of course, a great addition to the Council, but on the other hand, we can think how can we help and support and make that new feature visible on the website? + +Denis Lelic: we were talking about the development page, maybe there's a section there that's going to be Talking about that, maybe we're showcasing some templates where maybe just guiding traffic through the website. To the console and highlighting that feature. So, everything is connected. so, No worries about, That not being the topic today. So everything is kind of connected one way or another. + +Piyush: Yeah, for sure. + +Denis Lelic: So I think I pretty much covered anything everything that I planned today. So, a lot of work to do will make sure we're always making progress. + +Denis Lelic: And of course, guys, if you need any design support, any questions that I can answer, I'll be happy to answer, Feel free to the enemy on discord. We always drop any thoughts and working group for the website on discord as well. So if you guys have anything else to cover, we still have some time. Otherwise, we can wrap it up for today. + +Denis Lelic: I see a thumbs Thanks again for joining I think we'll see each other again in two weeks. But in the meantime, let's keep the momentum live on Discord and Github. + +Denis Lelic: you soon. Take care. Have a good day. Bye. + +Piyush: And I was able, but + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for this place that guys. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:38:41 👋 From 3c7e8a605a7e19000ae090fbe6b34bf3e96a84a2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 15:08:09 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 09/19] Create meeting notes for wg-website #34 (#712) * Create meeting notes for wg-website #34 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 034-2024-08-22.md added transcript and recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md | 430 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 430 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..65e77191 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md @@ -0,0 +1,430 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #34 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Akash ecosystem page and front homepage section +- Menu restructuring and UI/UX improvements +- Pricing page improvements, including GPU pricing calculator +- Case study page development +- Provider-specific page and network capacity integration +- Development page content restructuring and community group integration +- Planning for upcoming event season updates +- Review of action items and timelines + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Friday, August 22, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://olyxusqhsnl4q7wepmpawt6ly3peluwjdivqxpy2fzjcbipnznra.arweave.net/cvF6SgeTV8h-xHseC0_Lxt5F0skaKwu_Gi5SIKHty2I) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Denis Lelic +- B S +- Hiroyuki +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Ecosystem Page and Front Homepage Section** + - Denis reviewed the recent updates made to the ecosystem page, mentioning that the order of listed projects needs to be fixed for better organization. + - Suggested updating the front section of the homepage to feature new and relevant projects regularly. + - Denis will DM Zach to provide feedback on these updates. + +- **Menu Restructuring and UI/UX Enhancements** + - Piyush demonstrated the newly designed dropdown menu, which introduces a secondary navigation bar to improve user experience, especially on mobile. + - Denis highlighted that the vertical navigation will be removed in favor of a streamlined horizontal layout. + - Tyler requested the menu to have additional hover states and UI polishing to enhance accessibility. + - Denis suggested that the new menu design could solve multiple issues, including easier access to events and community resources. + +- **Pricing Page Enhancements** + - Denis discussed the ongoing work on the GPU pricing calculator and provider earnings calculator. + - The aim is to create a unified experience with an updated menu structure that would display the average price, minimum and maximum values, and allow users to compare Akash Network pricing with AWS, GCP, and Microsoft. + - The team will await Hiro’s updates on the current draft for the pricing page. + +- **Case Study Page Development** + - The team proposed adding a dedicated case study page to the Akash website. + - Content for case studies, such as blogs and project success stories, will be sourced from existing material and integrated under the ecosystem page. + - Tyler stressed the importance of completing this update before the upcoming event season. + +- **Provider Page and Network Capacity Integration** + - Denis presented a plan to create a dedicated page for providers, showing global provider capacity, uptime, GPU resources, and other specifics. + - Tyler and Denis agreed to consolidate this content from the ecosystem section into a dedicated provider section. + - Piyush will work on implementing this feature with a menu integration. + +- **Development Page Content Restructuring** + - Denis proposed content restructuring for the development page, including key links to GitHub, deployment tools, and templates. + - Tyler suggested adding a permanent link to the community calendar on this page for better accessibility. + - A section will also be added to connect users with blogs on community group activities, enhancing community engagement. + +- **Event Season Planning and Action Items** + - Tyler emphasized the need to complete all website updates, including the menu redesign, by September to streamline user experience for new visitors during the busy event season. + - Denis committed to aligning all team members on priorities, with feedback from Zach and Greg expected on the new menu. + +- **Closing Remarks** +- Denis thanked everyone for their contributions and highlighted the importance of these updates for the Akash website’s user experience. +- Tyler emphasized completing tasks within the next ten days to ensure readiness for the event season and ease of access for new users. +- The team agreed to reconvene on Discord to monitor progress and coordinate on finalizing action items. + +## Action Items + +- **Denis** + - Reach out to Zach and Greg for feedback on the ecosystem page order and project prioritization. + - Share the final provider screens with Piyush and add details under the provider issue. + - Provide required links and final feedback for the new menu experience. + - Follow up on any pending items related to the community calendar and add links to community blogs. + +- **Piyush** + - Complete the menu restructuring, including adding hover states and removing redundant vertical navigation bars. + - Work on implementing the dedicated provider page with the latest screens provided by Denis. + - Start updates on the case study page, incorporating content from the ecosystem section. + - Conduct an audit of all page links, especially those related to the product and engineering roadmap. + +- **Tyler** + - Push for prompt feedback from team members to ensure the completion of menu updates and case studies before the event season. + - Ensure the addition of links to community group blogs and maintain oversight on the completion of these tasks. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website. I suggest we just get started maybe with the latest issues. I'm just gonna have a look if There are any new issues? + +Denis Lelic: The last one was this updating the Akash ecosystem page with the latest relevant projects. This one I believe is done. We just have to fix the order of the + +Denis Lelic: projects listed so + +Denis Lelic: so the ecosystem page and the projects that are currently deployed on So these are all new Pro projects. That have been added I believe yesterday. + +Denis Lelic: So I think just the order of the project needs to be fixed. And then this issue could be closed. one more thing I suggested and that is while we do that we could also update the front section of the homepage right this one here, so I believe we could. + +Denis Lelic: feature some of the latest projects that are a bit more relevant than these here nothing wrong with these but We could just switch it every once in a while and showcase some of the others so. I think ice just maybe Vep deaf news news research. Maybe that could work. But yeah, Zach's not around here. I'll pay him privately just have a look and provide some of the feedback on this issue. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, they're looking for you pretty much stays the same as we Have it now maybe an issue we can. Focus on in the future main this is the issue that was taken. By piyush so what this issue is going to do is gonna provide a better overview of the website better. It's gonna offer better. user experience or users could reach + +Denis Lelic: some of the pages faster so I have a demo here a preview a peer sent. So this is how it looks so basically we're introducing dropdowns. And there's going to be a secondary nav, for example, let's try one events. And we're going to get rid of this. vertical nav and just have the + +Denis Lelic: horizontal and it's going to work much better on the mobile because it's just a slider and you can just switch between these pages. + +Denis Lelic: Pretty much everywhere. The same logic is used. So Let's see. Yeah, only thing here. I know we just have to do some UI polishing. So as you see there, there's no hover States at the moment. + +Denis Lelic: And that's about it and getting rid of this. additional Navbar, that's not going to be in use anymore. okay. + +Denis Lelic: There is another issue. We're currently working on. Just trying to Improve pricing page so the GPU pricing and the pricing calculator and the overall visibility and experience. + +Denis Lelic: while one thing this new menu is going to solve is also the + +Denis Lelic: just this visibility and easy to reach some of the pages because I think let's say events previously were harder to find there's another issue for that as well. And I believe this menu is gonna solve that as well. So if you go to the community, you're gonna see right there's events there and it's just you can reach it right away. But if you have a look on The existing menu you have to go to the community and then you have to go to the events, but maybe it's easier for us that are familiar with the website to find things. But it just imagine if someone is dropping in for the first time and they want to learn about the event. So basically they have to go. Okay Network. There's a drop down here. It's not here. Maybe it's development. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Then you have to go through this community. here it is. But kind of tricky to find yeah. + +Tyler Wright: as the menu issue available for somebody to take on sorry if you said + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, piyush is already working on it. So there's also a demo here that's already functional. We just need to do some UI polishing and do the hover States and then it's good to go. But when you're working on a menu It's kind of touches a lot of issues. So there are several issues that are involved in this as well. So for example + +Denis Lelic: and development page we have The first page that we're created that was created by you Tyler, so I dropped. a draft here that includes the new menu, but it also talks about + +Denis Lelic: some of the content that needs to be restructured a little bit maybe. Some content here is a bit outdated especially here. in this + +Denis Lelic: current groups and project projects. So I wanted to make sure for example here that we have a call to action that is visible enough that it's gonna lead to product and Engineering roadmap on GitHub. So yeah, I accidentally. + +Denis Lelic: Let's start shooting. share Yeah, so maybe if you have a look at this issue leave some thoughts here in the comment section and hopefully we can move. This issue into the next stage. + +Tyler Wright: Is there a timeline for the menu? + +Denis Lelic: There is no timeline. I still have to check with Zach Greg as well just to see what are their thoughts. I've tagged Zack a couple of times here in this issue, but he didn't respond. Yeah, probably because we're traveling and everything he did in the last couple of weeks. yeah, but + +Denis Lelic: When we all align, I think this menu can go live quite fast. but next to the menu in this PR, I would like to bring in Maybe additional page or two. That's kind of also work well with the next one update the events page. So this was updated and also + +Denis Lelic: the menu is gonna solve this issue as well. So Zach here stated that the events page. It's hard to find then we had a hero here dropping some ideas. it could be a drop-down and an additional menu item So that issue is going to be solved through the menu as well. + +Denis Lelic: There's another one I wanted to talk about. going back to this one. So I improving pricing page visibility and experience. There was some back and forth here in the comments section. So what we meet upon was to have + +Denis Lelic: a bit of unified experience for the usage pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. So it's gonna be one. Yeah. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: Not sorry. Yeah, I forgot to switch to that. So yeah, I'll just drop. a comment here + +Denis Lelic: in the comment section. I dropped the link for this issue. So what we're trying to solve here is just to provide a unified experience for all things. Pricing related so we have an overview of usage pricing calculator and provider earn calculator. So this is how it looks the GPU pricing is slightly redesigned. So we have this small chart here. That's + +Denis Lelic: talking about availability of each of the chipset then we have the average price and Very in a subtle way. We're also on mentioning the minimum and the maximum price and we have a call to action right now. And all these are just functioning through these tabs here or switches and users can just switch from GPU pricing to use pricing calculator. Play around with these sliders and they're gonna get a number and this number is going to be. + +Denis Lelic: actually, the number they're gonna get in they're gonna get is the pricing for all of the resources on the right but below that there's also a price compare for AVS gcp and Microsoft And the third tab is going to be earned calculator. So if any of the users is looking to provide compute instead of deploy or looking for both. They can also play around with these sliders here and they're gonna find out how much would they earn either in you akt or USD? So yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe here's a better View So we got the pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. So I keep closing the tabs. Sorry about that. + +Denis Lelic: So we got a looks good to me by Greg as well and I think hero already worked on it a little bit. We're Just waiting for him to share the latest update on this. So hopefully we're gonna push this live soon and close the ship. I'll try doing really have any information from Hiro. + +Denis Lelic: Uki's, so we're just gonna wait a while and What the pr brings and I'll keep an eye on it provide some feedback if it's necessary. I think piyush is going to be there as well. So + +Denis Lelic: that's how I look at issues again. + +Denis Lelic: And there are several issues. I think we could. easily Close adding a case study page wouldn't take long. We kind of have the structure in the background and + +Denis Lelic: all of the latest additions to the ecosystem page like the van Sai practice log, IO all of these projects that also have some sort of a case study already written that all that lives in the blog section. So we could just pull that content to a dedicated page just for the case studies and that could live in the menu for example So we have the ecosystem page and then we have case studies pretty users can have a look at all of them or we can just highlight two of them here. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: But that's something as well that I'm waiting for Zach to provide some feedback and leave his thoughts right here. Okay, I think I covered the issues covered and everything that's currently being worked on. So if you guys want to talk about anything bring another issue up. Yeah, please go ahead. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, Robert. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert. Tyler anything else You think we should mention? + +Tyler Wright: Not at this time again for those that are listening later you feel free to introduce yourselves inside the Discord Channel. I know there's a number of people looking to take on some of these issues. So please continue to look at the website. Hoping to get a number of these things merged as soon as possible. Thank you for all people's contributions and looking forward to + +Denis Lelic: Yes, I Feel free to me as well. Add me on Discord. I'm Denis core team. So if you need anything design related, I'm here to support you another issue that came up that I just remembered and could be solved again with the menu is a dedicated page just for providers. So we have + +Denis Lelic: we have three pages here that are talking about providers one would be like a general. page where we + +Denis Lelic: talk about how you become Akash cloud provider what that means how to do it provides and call to actions. The second one would be showcasing the network capacity and all the active providers across the globe and the first sorry third one would be just display all of the providers. + +Denis Lelic: And their details for example, the screen in the middle. So we have basic information about each of the providers where we can show their uptime their gpus resources and the rest of the resources and so on and so on and a call to action to view it on Console as well. So I just realized there's a I'm just gonna put a note here. There's one. Newer version of these screens. I'm just going to drop it here in this issue as well. So + +Tyler Wright: So you're saying that somebody can work on this separate from the menu or do you have to wait for the menu to be created to work? + +Denis Lelic: On this page is already So we have Network and then we have providers so We also have all of the content already. So we just need some restructuring around it. Basically, we would need to introduce. + +Denis Lelic: On I just give me one second so I can find that. + +Denis Lelic: the latest big mud drawing + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, all of this content is already there living in the website. This list of providers is currently under the page ecosystem. So we're just bring it to a dedicated page for providers only and we would need to introduce network capacity and cash providers switch. So users are either interested in viewing. The resources are currently being offered or they can just switch to Akash providers and then they have a whole list of providers here and they can just hit this if you want console and they can find it there as well with additional provider attributes So if they want to deploy on it they can and so on. So, yeah, I think it wouldn't take + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: much effort to tackle this issue as well and bring it. + +Denis Lelic: To the of the new menu experience. So I'll drop a comment and I'll drop a comment under the menu issue and just say these are the pages that we could Live with the same PR it's gonna help with the menu and it's going to solve some other issues that are currently opened. + +Tyler Wright: So basically peers would do that PR. + +Denis Lelic: So yeah over you have this provide new providers page case studies page and… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: if you have time, you can also have a look at the development page + +Denis Lelic: because It's not just a user experience. It's more like restructuring some of the content on the development page. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, the reason why I'm pushing is because I think we have a number of new contributors in the ecosystem and frankly. Some of these changes are significant improvements in my opinion. And so I would like to have them done before we get into a busy event season. … + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Tyler Wright: and if you go into September and October and new people are clicking on the cost Network website. It's easier for them to find information. There's more information readily available. I think that would be perfect timing. So I would really like to push on these things getting done and… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: then the next. 10 days if possible And… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Tyler Wright: if we need to bring another people we can but if you could push on peers to see these stupendous. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, Peters already showed interest in some of these issues but on the other side, I still haven't received any feedback from Zach I got a pink rag about it, so just to keep them. in the loop and they're aware of the changes that are about to happen or what are we talking about in this working group and so on and so on but yeah, I think piyush could handle all these I think two or three issues and just create one PR and it's gonna + +Denis Lelic: hopefully create a barrier better experience for the users. + +Denis Lelic: Anyone else Okay,… + +Tyler Wright: For No appreciate all the hard work. + +Denis Lelic: sounds good. + +Denis Lelic: And here's piyush. We're just about the Finish. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, no worries. We were just talking about several issues. I showed the menu you've shared with me and we talked about. if you're going to handle some of the other issues, that could be Broad to life with the menu PR I believe we talked about the providers page case studies page. + +Denis Lelic: And another one. That I can remember at the moment yet. I go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: Just a couple things for your peers for the menus and the draft Road looks good. I was just for talk about the providers page is and also the development page. I'm hoping that those pages can be done. By September 1 prior to Korean blockchain week. So that going into a busy event season when people are navigating the experience. I think these + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: Marinade, but I just wanted to see about that and then the second question I had for I have not forgotten so it'll come back to you soon. yes. I've now remembered the ecosystem page Denis. + +Piyush: with + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: It didn't go there. I dropped in there a preferred order. Do you have the capability on your end to switch up that order? Is that something that? somebody from the community can do. + +Piyush: Yeah, so basically okay, I think I already was the pr for I'll take a look. today I must appear God we mentioned. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, there's a DM in Discord, and I think Tyler shared the preferred list. Of projects just basically like a sorting issue. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: So Zach provided a list of projects that should be listed first and in that or maybe I can just share that with you here. + +Piyush: So basically it's a little deployed on akashness, right? + +Denis Lelic: I just tagged doing in this course so you can have a look on the ordering issue. + +Piyush: And what are the pages are the priorities? So one of the issue that I speak? I think it's a simple combine all the provide related stuff in personal page as for the issue of State. + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Denis Lelic: That's And I would like to bring that with the menu PR. So when you go to the network and you hit providers is just going to show this page here dedicated for providers. I have the figma already there and I know Zach wanted this issue solved. So I'm just gonna DM him and tell him it's ready have a look and hopefully we're good to go. I think the next 10 days Tyler's use as you've mentioned all of these issues could be doable but piyush is here to Get a better. + +Piyush: And also as I already mentioned in your DMs, so when you're changing go many ways, so we have this for people now and got extra version. So what's happening here is up to implementing the moon as we have now Secondly. Let's see the second here. you can create basically design and share it so we can just remove the vertical maps on the pages. + +Denis Lelic: I do hear at the end. Sorry, maybe it's not my connection. + +Piyush: and yes, I'm just saying when we are implementing the new network, so we have the nothing What's Happening Here is of in case of secondary we now have two Nan's pizzas English when it's the vertical map and one is the secondary now, I think from some of the pages we can move the vertical map. if you could write from which means you want that to be removed it would be better. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, I'll provide all the information. I think it pretty much in every page. It could be removed because it serves it's going to replace that now, but I'm not sure if it's gonna work if I do this. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, it works. + +Piyush: first + +Denis Lelic: So it's gonna work in the menu as much better than the current map. So you can just click through these and you're gonna find things much faster. So community events and then this thing is here just because of the test. I'm viewing this in the desktop, but in the menu experience, you're just gonna have a slider where you can + +Denis Lelic: Slide and switch to pages and so on. and there's also … + +Piyush: And and what do you think about that? + + +### 00:30:00 + +Denis Lelic: I just + +Piyush: This one. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: I preferred this one because it's so much easier to navigate because here you have This one and then it's open another menu, but you can also go to this one. That's kind of have these anchor links. Then you have to go up and it's a bit confusing experience with what this Navigation here,… + +Piyush: What so basically yes. + +Denis Lelic: I think this one is much much smoother. + +Piyush: So significant just remove that second thing. Yes. Sorry. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Piyush: and so in case of issues, so the provider speed is going first then we have + +Piyush: And what's the thesis that one of the issue there is on parabies menu even. Second is I would say provider speech and third. + +Denis Lelic: The next one would be actually starting first. We're waiting to hear from hero today and to share the latest. From him it's actually the pricing page. So it's this one? Where we have GPU pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. That's the first one and the pipeline that should be done. Then we have the menu experience. You are almost already have it solved and the next one would be. + +Piyush: Case studies I guess. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah case study studies maybe even provider a screen. + +Piyush: Yeah. Why do some case study so? + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Piyush: you have + +Tyler Wright: Providers and maybe development page or as a development page done. + +Denis Lelic: No for the development page, maybe you have a look at this issue here. There are some design drafts I dropped but again, I think it's gonna offer much better overview of the things that we're currently working on. just from starting at the top having a product and Engineering roadmap link a bit more visible and users can just hit that and it's gonna open up and GitHub then even again, the menu experience is gonna have help but then here I was doing a draft where we could restructure some of the content and provide. + +Denis Lelic: Some important links right at the start. So what kind of deployment tools we have? We have console view the docs. You can go to the GitHub discussions. Then we can talk about how Akash is the open source cloud and we can just have overview of all the open source code bases on GitHub. Then we have Community groups. So basically how Akash is structured how everything is Community Driven and again we can just play around with content here offer popular deployment templates link again to either GitHub or console. + +Denis Lelic: And the latest that I've dropped is this one so for the community calendar we can also do some sort of a sticky button that's going to be always in the bottom right corner and you just hit that and it's gonna open up menu a calendar with all the Meetings happening on that day or… + +Tyler Wright: But I've given a thumbs up already. This is great. + +Denis Lelic: this month and… + +Tyler Wright: The only thing I would change update is on the community groups on this tab right here the screen that you have visible… + +Denis Lelic: so on and so on so that's the draft. Maybe tie have a look at it drop. + +Tyler Wright: if you could add the calendar here as well. So that is always linkable from every page related to the community groups. That would be I know you have it here as a sticky… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: but on that page or if it's the same page, it's just a different area just as long as it's sticky that would be great. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: And then the only thing that I would maybe add is if you can create a little section that links to the blog I think we talked about this but one of the things that BS is going to help do is create + +Tyler Wright: weekly or monthly blogs around the community groups. So here's what's happened last couple months. Here's how you get involved all that kind of stuff like just a quick blurb for each and I would love to be able to link to that so that people can have the notes the transcripts the videos and then if they just want to read the quick blog and be like, This is a cool thing to the website working group is doing and I think I can help there. They have an easy access to that content. So everything else looks beautiful. And I would love for this to be started to start working on this or have somebody start working on this. + + +### 00:35:00 + +Denis Lelic: Sure. + +Denis Lelic: So the next action item? from me would be To get everyone aligned so bring in Zach we can show some of the issues to Greg as well. So he's aware what's going on? + +Denis Lelic: I'll drop provider screens. So the latest provider screens. And under the provider issue. + +Denis Lelic: And I still have to provide feedback for the menu experience piyush worked on so it's pretty much there. I think it's 19995% there piyusha adjustment like we could add some hover States. + +Piyush: yeah, and also there's some links that can fix for example product and… + +Denis Lelic: And… + +Piyush: Engineering orders right now don't have the proper league so we can just Audit all the links that have been implemented in now and… + +Denis Lelic: it's good to go. + +Piyush: then yeah. + +Piyush: Was removal of vertical maps and that third nav in the mobile speed. as a + +Denis Lelic: It lists. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Where is it? Did I just so this link here from the development product and Engineering roadmap is just gonna lead here. So I'll provide all of the links so + +Piyush: we answered. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I'll put it together and send it over to you and maybe for our next session. It would be great if we have a look at the swag shop. + +Piyush: Yes for sure. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: swag shop some sort of a facelift or… + +Piyush: Just as per the internet implementation plan,… + +Denis Lelic: new design + +Piyush: The more thing that is going live very soon. + +Denis Lelic: so yeah, it's + +Piyush: I mean today the order on and Your ordering of the projects that are listed on the system page second cases issue number 16, which is the provided speech which we will get started working on just hear me the figma file like them take a look and… + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Piyush: thirdly the menu. I think it's almost done. We'll just change. That's why just share the proper idea about… + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Piyush: how to remove the vertical Maps, or maybe you want to know. Or something like that. + +Piyush: Thirdly pricing and case studies here is already working on them. So let's wait for them to respond if he has done otherwise, I will ask donates and hope with that because our last three development paid. So this will get started working on the development website side by side. And if not instantly we'll have some progress on that as well over time. + +Piyush: Right. Yeah. Thank you. + +Denis Lelic: That sounds good. And thanks for joining. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, thank you piyush. I've added some comments to those issues. So again much appreciated everything. I'm going to continue to push on folks over next couple of days slash a week to see where we are. Make sure that these things kind of live because again, I'd much appreciate these are I think big improvements to the experience make it easier for people to access information and use that information. So really looking forward to this kind of stuff being alive. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, same here. so I suggest we just wrap it up for today. We talked enough. We know what to do next. So we'll talk in Discord and Other channels we have so thanks again for joining and looking forward to all of the progress and the work that can be done in the next week. + +Denis Lelic: Have a good day, bye-bye. + +Denis Lelic: hang up + + +### 00:40:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:40:13 👋 From 148015fb89895734fab82897bc3bbb5351716dfd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:28:42 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 10/19] sig-economics Update README.md added meeting details for meeting 21. 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Leadership ### Project Leads -* Greg Osuri, CEO Overclock Labs -* Adam Bozanich, CTO Overclock Labs +* Scott Hewitson, Director of Finance Overclock Labs * Cheng Wang, CFO Overclock Labs ## Contact From 9f4c146adf4050de2c2c25f93fa82a482eb531b6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2024 23:47:54 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 11/19] sig-economics Update README.md update meeting details for Dec 2024 and Jan 2025 Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --- sig-economics/README.md | 4 ++-- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/sig-economics/README.md b/sig-economics/README.md index cce28142..d6c09b76 100644 --- a/sig-economics/README.md +++ b/sig-economics/README.md @@ -33,8 +33,8 @@ Meetings happen every [First Wednesday of the Month](https://calendar.google.com | #19| August 07, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/018-2024-08-07.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/018-2024-08-07.md#transcript) |[Link](https://qextbwdkzexp6rjoxd43vbxe4gmojck4wartnjykb3lsjbwtoemq.arweave.net/gS8w2GrJLv9FLrj5uobk4ZjkiVywIzanCg7XJIbTcRk) | #20| October 09, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/020-2024-10-09.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/020-2024-10-09.md#transcript) |[Link](https://heto6ceypzwojxh56rfumjss6fsa3rhjrkrany22ap37qvorf6ba.arweave.net/OSbvCJh-bOTc_fRLRiZS8WQNxOmKogbjWgP3-FXRL4I) | #21| November 6th, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/021-2024-11-06.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-economics/meetings/021-2024-11-06.md#transcript) |[Link](https://spb2lgjfo22rkltiontajya63on7vc5jg4i77hnsngjdj5xyfkra.arweave.net/k8OlmSV2tRUuaHNmBOAe25v6i6k3Ef-dsmmSNPb4KqI) -| #22| December, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #23| January, 2025 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #22| December 2nd, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #23| January 8th, 2025 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | ## Leadership From 7741eb9c28692678afbfe46214dce173efd4d03a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Drinkwater Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2024 22:16:33 -0500 Subject: [PATCH 12/19] steering committee Update README.md updated meeting table for Next few months. 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Example events include ETH Denver and NVIDIA Conference. + - **Tier Two**: Moderate sponsorships with speaking engagements and smaller booths. + - **Tier Three**: Low-budget attendance with speaking opportunities but no sponsorships. +- Budget concentration for tier-one events aims to maximize impact without significant budget increase. + +### Event Calendar Overview +#### Quarter One +- ETH Denver and NVIDIA in California, both categorized as tier-one events. +- Plans include larger booths, side events, and professional content creation (videography/photography). + +#### Quarter Two +- Token 2049 Dubai, Permissionless in Brooklyn, and Super AI Singapore. +- Introduction of "Akash Accelerate" in New York City leading up to Permissionless. + +#### Quarter Three +- ICML Vancouver (AI-focused), ETHCC in France, and Korea Blockchain Week. + +#### Quarter Four +- Token 2049 Singapore, NeurIPS (AI), KubeCon, Masari Mainnet, and Cosmoverse. +- Additional budget reserved for last-minute, high-value opportunities. + +### Community Engagement and Feedback +- Encouraged feedback on the event plan before finalizing in December. +- Robert Del Rey suggested including the Consensus event, which was noted for consideration. +- Discussed involving Akash insiders and community members in events. + +### Logistics and Merchandise +- Emphasis on maintaining the "Akash is everywhere" sentiment at events. +- Plans for new merchandise ideas, including themed items for booths and community giveaways. + +### Budget + - Total budget aligns closely with 2024. + - Strategic focus on high-impact events while maintaining visibility at smaller conferences. + - Unused funds to return to the community pool. + +### Closing Remarks +- Amanda Keay expressed enthusiasm for 2025 and gratitude to participants for their contributions. +- Highlighted the importance of collaboration in maintaining Akash's visibility and impact at events. +- Encouraged ongoing feedback through GitHub, Telegram, or direct messages. + +## Action Items +- **Amanda Keay**: + - Finalize event tiers and calendar post-feedback. + - Coordinate with community members and stakeholders on merchandise ideas. + - Ensure budget alignment with planned activities. +- **Zach Horn**: + - Draft GitHub discussions for community input by end of November. + - Prepare Q1 proposals for on-chain approval. +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Provide additional details for the Consensus event for evaluation. +- **All Participants**: + - Share feedback on the proposed events and any new event suggestions. + - Suggest creative merchandise or booth ideas. + +# **Transcript** + +Amanda Keay: All right, welcome everyone to our 2024 working events working group. I wanted to just come on here today as we're wrapping up 2024 events and talking about 2025. wanted to just come on here give a little update of what we have done and what I've worked with passing things up from Adam to me and to moving on into the next year. that's kind of where I wanted to begin. + +Amanda Keay: So, I kind of came on really May, I guess when Adam went on paternity leave in June. and we kind of did a whole slew of events. I think we hit a total of 13 different main conference events in 2024. it was a really big success from so many of you that were able to come as insiders as well as just community support on Twitter and Discord. we had a lot of really good conversations. We were able to sponsor booths. I think we had six or seven different booths in the past year. and all those conversations, we went really big on 2024, hitting everything. pretty much having a budget that was equal to each of those events. + +Amanda Keay: And post 2024, we wanted to take all those things that we learned from those conferences and adjust the budgets accordingly to conferences that we thought meant a lot more to the team. we had a lot really good conversations based on attendance and on. So 2025 we have I guess three different tiers of budgets that we're going to be working with. tier one is going to be our biggest one. We're planning on bringing the most amount of people to those conferences. we're going to be sponsoring the main conference, having an extended and bigger booth usually. we've been doing 10 by10 booths and it's been really good. It's been packed, but we're getting to the point of needing to expand a little bit. so we're trying to go to a larger booth, have a bigger presence at some of these tier 2 events are also going to be sponsored. + +Amanda Keay: So, we're going to have speaking engagements, sponsorships, booths, side events, the whole shebang. roughly looking between five people to attend those conferences. And then lastly, our tier three event is going to be no sponsorship. We're going to come and take those conferences, apply for speaking engagements, but, kind of just attending the events instead of the ones sponsoring. So, we're going to be using those smaller events, the ones that are close to New York City or some of them in Europe and things that are close to use those opportunities to just have a smaller presence. not as much budget not as much overhead is going to be needed for those events. So, that's kind of what Zach and I along with some more of the core team have put together as far as our tiers for moving into 2024. + +Amanda Keay: I'm going to share my screen in a second so that I can share which events we plan on hitting into 2025. But while I do that, Zach, do you have anything to add before + +Zach Horn: No, I think that was a great overview. I mean, that's generally the high level strategy and I think what as you're pulling up the document, you'll see how we've broken these things out. by far the largest, tier two coming in much lower than that, and then tier three is really tertiary, very small. + +Amanda Keay: They're not in order of when we're attending. + +Zach Horn: The general idea is that, this year we did this huge range of events. We did everything right. But what we felt like going into next year is that we can concentrate the budget that we have towards these larger tier one events that we know are really high value and then take some budget away from some of these smaller events that are worth attending but maybe not having a huge presence. So let's jump right into the doc and just I would run through all the events we're going to go through Amanda and then we can jump into the tiers as well. + +Amanda Keay: I started off the first quarter. So we're going to be attending ETH Denver and Nvidia Denver is obviously in Denver. Nvidia is going to be in California. both of those are going to be in the first quarter. They're our largest tier. So we're doing a bigger booth sponsorship bringing out a bunch of people. + +Amanda Keay: We're going to have speaking engagements. insiders are obviously coming out as well. We're going to be doing side events and all of that. So, the budget for tier one, as you can see, is 283 roughly around there. with bigger booths, it comes more money. With spending more people also, it's just naturally you're going to be spending a little bit more. we also have budget in there that for some of these side events or an official summit in a correlation to a big conference. We'd like to have an AV team come and shoot some really good content. so we have that in the budget as well. I'm not saying we're going to do it for every conference and of course those funds will be returned back to the community pool if we don't use them. So, those are the first two events for quarter 1. I guess I can go to quarter two. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Amanda Keay: It's kind of out of order. Sorry guys. Token 2049 Dubai is going to be in quarter 2. Permissionless. Super AI Singapore, those are all quarter 2 events. I think Permissionless is going to be in Brooklyn this year. So, that's exciting. We're planning on also for those of you who attended or heard about Akos accelerate, we are going to be doing AOS accelerate in New York City in correlation or just leading up to permissionless. So that's really exciting. So looking to do that in June. The dates are not set yet, but that'll be a totally different proposal. + +Amanda Keay: moving on to quarter three, if I can see, ICML Vancouver, that is an AI conference similar to what we're going to be doing, in just a few weeks, with Nurips. it's going to be a very academic developer focused AI event. So, we're planning on hitting that one in quarter 3. ETHC, which is going to be in France this year, and Korea Blockchain Week. So those are the main conferences for quarter 3. And then for quarter four we have the two big moving back to the top. We have token 2049 Singapore which was really good this past year. So we wanted to expend our budget a little bit for that as well as nurups. that's the other AI conference that we're going to be attending. And then CubeCon, Masari mainet and Cosmoverse. I'm not exactly sure when Cosmoverse is going to be this year. + +Amanda Keay: So, I have it in quarter four, but that's just based on the last few years. It's been roughly around the end of quarter 3, quarter four. and then at the end, you can see in line item 15, we have an overage amount. That's going to be kind of up to community and core team members to decide if there are any conferences or anything that we would like to attend. so often things get presented to us last minute. So it's not something that we can plan for if a Stanford blockchain week we wanted to go out there we have those funds in order to do So we have a little bit of budget there to bring community members out to attend hackathons. yeah the one-off conferences that are maybe in SF or Austin or New York City that we feel like would be a really good thing to attend but it's just not presented to us with months in advance. + +Amanda Keay: I guess after that I will take a little break and see if anyone has any questions based on this. And also please raise your hand if there's a conference on here that you would like to potentially see us going to. this is a working document. We're not planning on putting anything on chain until after Thanksgiving for the US holidays. So we have some time to work through this and would love to get your feedback for those of you who attended or community members who are joined us today. I see thumbs up, which is good. anyone have any vocal opinions? I love talking, but okay, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, the list is very solid. like you say, I guess it's better to focus on those big events and those events that the audience can have a bigger impact for a cashache as far as reach goes and also a cash can have a bigger impact on those events since they are crypto and AI. I just noticed that on the list you don't have a consensus added. + +Amanda Keay: + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know if they're going to do that in 2025, but yeah, overall it looks really solid. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah, thank you. + +Amanda Keay: We don't have consensus on the list. I know that was one that It was based in Austin in the last few years. It's moving up to Toronto this year. Let me actually check. I'm not sure what's the date on that. it might be. But I will write that down. and if it's one that it's May 14th through 16th. but I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thank you, Robert. Does anyone else have anything? No. Zach, do you have anything to add? + + +### 00:10:00 + +Zach Horn: Yeah, I would say the one point that's worth highlighting here is you see that the total budget that we're looking at for next year is roughly in line of our budget for this year. It's a little bit more but not an order of magnitude bigger or anything like that. what essentially we're getting out of this is because we're concentrating budget towards these tier one events, our presence when we go to Denver, when we go to GTC, right, is going to be significantly larger. we're bumping up to a whole different sponsorship tier. We're going to have a much larger booth. + +Zach Horn: We're going to have professional videography and photography and all those things, So, basically what we're doing is we're concentrating the budget, right, without pushing the total budget significantly. So, we're essentially doing more with roughly the same amount of funds, which one I think is going to be great for the community. + +Amanda Keay: + +Zach Horn: And then as Amanda was saying, this budget just gives us room to do a lot more of the things we need to be doing, but for whatever reason we end up short of the budget, all of that goes back to the community full. So, there's nothing no wasted funds. + +Amanda Keay: One other thing,… + +Amanda Keay: if you look over onto the event mix, one of our goals for 2025 was to try to get to a more even split of blockchain conferences and AI conferences. Right now we're at 33 and 60%. So it's getting close. we are planning on this weekend we're sponsoring a hackathon with Meta and Cerebral Valley. So that would kind of fall under the AI sort of events. So we'd like to try to keep that split a little bit more even rather than just solely focusing on blockchain conferences. + +Amanda Keay: that's why we're planning on attending and doing the larger tier events for Nurups, for NVIDIA and all the ones that are listed here. as well as trying to build out our presence a little bit more, in SF and trying to get connected there with AI developers and some hackathons. So I know Adam is working with the community and with hackathons. So, we've been talking and we're going to continue to, be aligned on that and try to make our budgets stretch as far as we can. I know a lot from the community when I've been attending the conferences, people from the community have come to me and said it's a cautious everywhere, which I love to hear. So, we want to continue that. I don't want to ever scale back that and now it looks like we're not attending. So, that's why we have pretty much the same roughly the similar budget. + +Amanda Keay: + +Amanda Keay: We're attending 14 conferences with potentials in between with that overage funds. So We still want to have that sentiment of everywhere we look a cautious there without wasting money and focusing our efforts we want on the ones that we think will be the best for the company. So that is where we are at right now. not really sure how to end this. + +Amanda Keay: If + +Zach Horn: Just real real quick,… + +Zach Horn: Amanda, I saw maybe someone else just joined. we were talking a little bit earlier if there was any feedback or any other events you think we should attend. So, not to put you on the spot, Julius, but if you have any questions, comments, happy to hear them. I'll take one emoji. I'll take that. by the way, Julius, not to derail this meeting, but the AOSGen roll out was fantastic. So, I'll give you a little public shout out even though it's not on topic for this meeting. Tyler, go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think we got great feedback or at least opportunity for people to give feedback. I think there'll be a discussion that will go up so people can provide additional feedback. the only thing I'll remind people is typical those that want to go to these events, can go through the cash insiders program and then from there again there will be signups throughout the year for those that want to participate in these events. So, just a reminder to folks, that maybe joined sick community call yesterday,… + +Amanda Keay: Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: and heard the plan from Adam about the community efforts for 2025 and just how folks can get more involved in events like this,… + +Tyler Wright: etc. So, amazing work, sorry, not guys and gal. All y'all. + +Zach Horn: Yeah. Yeah. + +Zach Horn: What's the plural of All y'all. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, exactly. + +Zach Horn: That's That's right. in terms of timeline, what we're thinking at this point is that we're going to wait to get through Thanksgiving, then we're going to put this on GitHub discussions. So there's going to be a chance to drop in notes or feedback or anything else async if you want to do that on GitHub. That'll be up for a month through the end of the year or so. And then I think the last plan I heard was Huie is that we're going to do the Q1 prop on chain. So that'll be next year. But look, we'll make sure you guys have the link once it's on GitHub. And if you want to drop any feedback there, definitely feel free. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Amanda Keay: + +Tyler Wright: And otherwise we can end early. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah. No,… + +Amanda Keay: thanks, Zach. does anyone else have anything to add? + +Tyler Wright: That's all we wanted to cover is just like the plan and then folks can see the discussion and give their feedback live, get their feedback via the discussion and then we can move forward. + +Amanda Keay: Yep. Awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate it. + +Amanda Keay: Thank you everyone who showed up today. and looking forward to killing it in 2025. I'm super excited. I have a lot of great ideas for events for next year and it brings me a lot of joy. and I like meeting all of you, too. So, yes, I do have Okay, hold on. We're not that is happening. I know this is recorded. I used to hate on Crocs. Sorry about this, guys. + +Amanda Keay: I own three pair and I'm going to get a fourth and then get the little aos things to go on it. So yes, that's the plan. Thank you Luna for bringing that up. We got to have the koozies too for Adam. I know it's ridiculous, but got to bring those out. so love the community ideas, too. So keep them drop them to me if you think of anything that's cool that you'd like to see at the booth or for swag. that's a whole other discussion that falls under the merchandise side of things, which we're planning on doing a lot of really cool things moving into next year as well. So if there's anything that you guys want to add, please u my DMs are open both on Twitter and Telegram and everywhere. So thanks for coming everyone and look forward to seeing some of you guys soon. + +Zach Horn: Awesome. Thanks,… + +Rodri R: Thank you guys. Bye. + +Zach Horn: guys. Take care. + +Tyler Wright: That + +Joao Luna: Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you. 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Providers Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #23 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Akash Console 2.0 development +- Provider stability and dangling leases discussion +- API updates and their impact on providers +- Cosmos SDK upgrade roadmap +- Open floor for provider-related issues or questions + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://mla7nunhtbjx4escdlbbz2smfjxbbn4p34d72rgom7cjaf3vwaxa.arweave.net/YsH20aeYU34SQhrCHOpMKm4Qt4_fB_1EzmfEkBd1sC4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Jigar Patel +- Deval Patel +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrey Arapov +- Damir Simpovic +- Nathan Ward +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Forbes Analos +- Rodri R +- Vigneshwar Viswanathan +- B S +- Vontario Taylor + +## Meeting Notes + +### Updates on Akash Console 2.0 +- **Jigar Patel** + - Added new features to the Provider Console Beta: + - Deployment page and detailed deployment view. + - Pricing and attribute update functionality. + - Persistent storage integration, enhancing control machine access. + - Capability to reconnect OpenForm machines. + - Settings for restarting providers. + - Logs integration: + - Efforts underway to capture logs for all provider-related actions. + - Ongoing collaboration between Jigar, Deval, and Maxime Beauchamp to finalize this feature. + - A full functionality demo is expected in the next SIG Providers meeting. + - Reminder: Ongoing updates can be tracked in the Akash Network community repo on GitHub. + +### Provider Stability and Dangling Leases +- Discussion on issues related to dangling leases and provider experience stability. +- Core engineering team actively working on solutions: + - Addressing lease closure behavior and improving user experience. + - Internal tests ongoing with community members and engineering team. + +### API Updates +- **Tyler Wright** + - Updates to the API for provider-related functionalities: + - Improvements to the indexer, benefiting the provider side. + - Enhancements being utilized by the Console 2.0 development team. + - Pending changes to be implemented soon. + +### Cosmos SDK Upgrade Roadmap +- Transition from Cosmos SDK 45 to 47 in progress. +- Key updates: + - Testnet CLI functionality has been tested for several weeks with community feedback. + - Upcoming testing phases for clients and providers. + - Network upgrade planned for January or early February 2025, pending successful testing. + +### Announcements +- Steering committee meeting moved to early December due to U.S. holidays. +- Community members encouraged to: + - Stay active in the Providers and Discord channels. + - Use the Praetor channel for issues related to the Praetor-to-Console transition. + - Report issues via the support repo, tagging appropriately for visibility. + +### Closing Remarks +- Tyler Wright thanked participants for their continued contributions. +- Encouragement to remain engaged in discussions and provide feedback. + + +## Action Items +- **Jigar Patel and Deval Patel** + - Continue development on Console 2.0, focusing on logs integration and feature finalization. + - Prepare for a full demo in the next SIG Providers meeting. + +- **Scott Carruthers** + - Collaborate with the community and core team on dangling lease improvements. + +- **Maxime Beauchamp** + - Finalize and roll out API updates for provider-side enhancements. + +- **Community Members** + - Participate in upcoming testing phases for Cosmos SDK 47. + - Report issues and provide feedback through appropriate channels. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG providers. It is November 27th, 2024. during this special interest group for providers, the group gets together and talks about all things related to the AOSH provider on the AOSH network. usually we get feedback from the Dval and Jigger who originally developed something called Ptor an easy way for people to build providers on the Akash network as of the last really six to eight months at this point. the Prador team has joined the overclock labs team and they are working on the Akash console 2.0 + +Tyler Wright: 0 which will include the provider side of the console and open source experience. We get updates from Jigger and Deval on all things related to their work there. so that's how we'll start off our agenda. After that we'll talk about see if there's anybody else that has any issues related to provider that they want to discuss. I know that there's been some work happening from the overclock labs core team around provider stability and some things that have been discussed in six support and elsewhere. So again, there might be some updates there, but I do want to see before we hop into updates from Jigger and Deval if there's anything that anybody wants to discuss on the provider side here, feel free to drop it in the chat and we can make sure we discuss it here. Cool. + +Tyler Wright: again, feel free to drop in any agenda items during the course of the meeting, but at this point, I do want to kick it over to Jigger and Dval. At last month, at the last sick providers meeting, we got a demo from Jigger and Dval on the work they've been doing around console. and that was quite exciting. That demo is again available on GitHub. You can go inside the SIG providers inside the community repo, and just look at the notes and the transcript and video from last month. But I'll hand it over to Jigger and Dval to see if there's an update from all the work that they've been working on this past month. + +Jigar Patel: So I want to start with the features that we have added into our console beta since the last length. We have added a deployments page and deployments details page. we also added pricing and attributes update features as well. So now can update the pricing and accurates for their provider. we've also added a pers storage which is a huge thing considering the functionality that actually taps into and all these things the functionality depends on the control machine access. + +Jigar Patel: So we also added a functionality where you can reconnect your openform machines if not connected. and then everything is obviously restored in the browser and everything. So no there's no data stored on our site anything. and then we also added a settings where you can restart your provider. And next thing that we are currently working on getting the logs into those actions. So all these update pricing attributes person storage or any provider build. so everything is a action that happens on the provider side. + +Jigar Patel: so we are actually working on getting all the logs related to those actions and based on that you'll able to see those logs as well. So we are actually currently working on it. some of the k are already merged and some of that is in the review right now. we are obviously going back and forth me the wall Maxaro and then yeah based on basically we're constantly working on that hoping to give a demo on the next meeting with the full functionality everything that I already mentioned here and more. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Again, there's a repo inside the AOS network organization where you can track all the work from Jigger and al. and again, there please feel free to use the sick providers channel or the providers channel inside Discord to ask any technical questions. and I believe there still is the ecosystem prair channel for folks that have prator issues that they're currently facing. Again the transition and plans around how things will transition from pritor to akos console will be made available soon. So yeah anyone have any questions specifically on the work from Jigger and Cool. All right. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: one other thing that I just wanted to bring up very quickly is again around there's been some people in the community that on the provider side that have brought up some issues around dangling leases around just the provider experience in general. I know that the core engineering team over the last couple of months has been looking into looking to solve some of these issues with a couple of upgrades and provider upgrades that have happened. But again, the core team has been spending some cycles along with everything else you see on the pro product and engineering roadmap around just basic provider stability in general. why some leases are closing at specific times and the behavior around that. + +Tyler Wright: that behavior is expected behavior as designed, but again, there's some talk and some work being done to potentially change that behavior for the betterment of the user experience of the provider. So, again, there's been some tests that have been going on internally with the core engineering team and some members of the community. but that might be something that gets talked about at the steering committee or the next SIG provider meeting or SIG support around again some of those improvements to the provider experience. so again, if you're a provider, please look out for what could be some potential upgrades coming soon or at least again some changes that should improve the provider experience. + +Tyler Wright: I know that Andre is quite active and does a great job of making announcements in various channels related to provider. Over the last month since our last provider meeting, there's been some announcements going out as it pertains to certain behaviors. Again, many of those behaviors we talked about in other SIGs and have been updated. I just want to see if there's again anything else with active providers coming out of the provider announcements channel or anywhere else that anybody wants to discuss or get more clarity All right. + +Tyler Wright: The last thing that I was going to touch on and Max, keep me honest here and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's been some updates to the API that have had a positive impact on just the provider side and I think these are things that are being leveraged by Jigger and Deval as they're continuing to build out console 2.0. So, I know that Max C, and others have been again working on some again API changes to the indexer and continuing to improve the indexer, especially on the provider side. So, I know that I believe there have been some updates there. If they're not live yet, they should live soon, but I just wanted to call out again some additional efforts from members of the core team around the provider. + +Tyler Wright: All is there anything else that anybody wants to share right now? I know there's a number of other efforts being done by community members and members of the core team, but I just want to see if there's anything on the provider side that anybody wants to discuss, ask questions about, or get more clarity around here today. If not, then again, feel free to use the providers channel in Discord. there's provider builds channel for folks that are looking to again build kind of bare metal resources that they're going to bring on to the Akos network. Again, there's a number of channels and number of folks active in those channels. So, shout out to everybody that gives feedback helps other people in those channels. Much appreciated. + +Tyler Wright: feel free to use the ecosystem praor channel if you have any questions related to prator. and then looking forward to our next s providers meeting where we'll get another demo on all the work that the praor team has been doing around akos console 2.0. I'm sure there'll be additional updates around some of the provider stability work and pod stability work that the core team has been doing. and then we'll start to outline next steps on the provider side as we look towards a Cosmos SDK47 upgrade. Again, for folks not in the know, there was a massive upgrade that the core engineering team has been working on as it pertains to migrating from Cosmos SDK 45 to 47. Should be a whole big unlock for a number of things. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: the test net of testing CLI functionality has been going on for the last three or four weeks in both internally and with members of the community. That testing is almost complete. We've gotten a great deal of feedback and implementing some changes there. And then next part of the test net will be clients testing and providers testing of the Cosmos SDK 47 or SDK 47. So again, we'll probably call upon some people from the community to help out with that testing when the time is right as we look to plan for the network upgrade happening in January or early February depending on testing and how that goes. Cool. If there's nothing else then again I urge people to stay involved in providers channels and Discord. thank you to everybody for joining today. + +Tyler Wright: if anybody has anything that they want to talk about, please feel free to drop a message in Discord. If anybody has any issues that they want to discuss, feel free to again talk to members of the community. There's always vanguards and other folks in the community that can help you get questions answered from there. If there's a specific issue, then it could be escalated and folks can open up issues inside the support repo, which is where everything related to the core Akos network lives, So again you can see tags by provider, you can see tags by node repo etc. so again please if you want to get involved with specific provider issues or if you have see an issue please know where you can report it. Thank you all for joining today. + +Tyler Wright: Again, the steering committee is going to be moved to the beginning of December because of some holidays in America, but I look forward to seeing you all at the next SIG providers getting again another demo from Jigger and Deval. and again, we can just discuss anything else in between. Hope everyone has a great rest of their day and again thank you all for your constant contributions and support. Appreciate y'all. Bye-bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:17 👋 + From d8c8cf56fbfa29cd12f0f63a1c87aec16bd9a123 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 01:38:50 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 16/19] Create meeting notes for wg-website #37 (#745) * Create meeting notes for wg-website #37 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 037-2024-10-24.md added transcript CHORE: add recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater * Update 037-2024-10-24.md added recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md | 200 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 200 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..924c9139 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md @@ -0,0 +1,200 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #37 + +## Agenda +- Review of tasks completed in the past two weeks. +- Updates and ongoing discussions on open issues. +- Suggestions for new issues and task assignments. +- Improvements for the Akash website, including UX updates and community engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, October 24, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://5vfonw66kuy62zkslvyzffz2y3vr2p36aegwzd632vfshxheyyia.arweave.net/7Urm295VMe1lUl1xkpc6xusdP34BDWyP29VLI9zkxhA) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Benjamin B +- Deathless +- Denis Lelic +- Hiroyuki's Notetaker +- M R +- Piyush +- Rodri R +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes +### Completed Tasks +- **Logo Update:** + - The Akash logo was updated to align with other initiatives like Chat API. + - Task completed by Benjamin or Piber Dev. + +- **Events Page UX Updates:** + - Reorganized event listings chronologically, removing month filters. + - Adjusted tile graphics for consistency in size and layout. + - Minor design improvements completed to improve the visual experience. + +- **Calendar UI Discussion:** + - Observed inconsistency in calendar views due to ongoing Google updates. + - Decided to keep the issue open until November 4 to allow updates to settle. + +### Open Issues +- **Global Search Feature:** + - Suggested by Piyush and his team to enable global search functionality across the website. + - Awaiting further expansion and detailed UI ideas in the comments section. + +- **GPU Resource Enablement Page:** + - Assigned to Piyush, awaiting updates regarding provider directions. + - Task progress pending confirmation from external contributor Andrey. + +- **Community Page Overhaul:** + - Recognized the need for redesign and additional content for the community page. + - Adam to provide new content ideas, with mock-ups to be created by Denis. + - Focus areas include better visuals, content on community contributions, and integrations. + +- **Calendar Accessibility:** + - Suggested making the calendar more visible via a sticky button or header link. + - Issue to remain open for implementation based on content updates. + +### Contributor Coordination +- **Transparency in Contributions:** + - Tyler emphasized the importance of tracking contributions publicly for community visibility. + - Contributors are to log hours and PRs against bounty tickets for transparency. + - Monthly contributor rewards to be processed based on logged hours and contributions. + +### Miscellaneous Updates +- **Community Engagement:** + - Encouraged increased participation in issue creation and implementation from community members. + - Plans to feature community activities and photos on the redesigned community page. + +- **Upcoming Meetings:** + - Denis to take time off in the next two weeks; Tyler will coordinate meetings and provide updates. + - Future meetings to focus on addressing high-priority issues and ongoing projects. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis thanked participants and encouraged continued discussions on Discord. +- Meetings to proceed as planned, with recordings reviewed for updates in Denis's absence. + +## Action Items +- **Denis Lelic:** + - Create mock-ups for the community page redesign. + - Monitor calendar UI updates and share progress on Discord. + +- **Piyush:** + - Provide updates on the GPU Resource Enablement page. + - Expand on the global search feature issue with detailed implementation plans. + +- **Tyler Wright:** + - Track and manage contributor submissions for hours and PRs. + - Coordinate meetings during Denis's absence and provide updates. + +- **Adam:** + - Share additional content ideas for the community page overhaul. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website. For those of you who are joining here for the first time or those that might be listening to the recording these meetings happen, every 14 days, what we meet and discuss everything website related. We usually go through the issues that We fixed in the previous two weeks and then we try to either create or discuss new ones that we're going to tackle in the next two weeks. So I'm just gonna get us going. issues. In the last two weeks. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, it's probably this one because we skipped last meeting, we moved it today. So, This one replace logo as the Excel on with Akash Sdxl. I think this was done, not really sure by who, but it's done. So it's basically this style here. it says Akash sdxl, it's kind of + +Denis Lelic: Aligned with all the other initiatives and products like Akash, Chat API, and so on and so on. so, + +Denis Lelic: So if this icon was distorted kind of compressed a little bit I think Benjamin or Fiber Dev fixed this one. So thank you. I think you're on this call, right? + +Denis Lelic: And then we had advanced Page UX updates. This is a little bit bigger issue. So we've Removed. Some of the functionality here, and The page looks Now, So we have all the events listed we skipped months and we just list all of the events that are happening in. + +Denis Lelic: I don't know, chronological order. So we got a headline here. And tiles and so on. and there's a button to see all the past events. So, This thing here, changes and all of the events are listed here. Yes. And there was a minor change after we did this. It was basically just a line. All of the Images sort of their kind of in the same size and it's not breaking the layout and so on. So this was the issue. + +Denis Lelic: Purify size of the graphics. So that was done as well. Okay, so there's a big discussion happening here around this calendar UI. So basically, there's All right, two views that are happening. Occasionally the first one happens in the majority of times when users view the calendar. And this one happens from time to time, I guess Google was testing at this new calendar and I believe we see + +Denis Lelic: Leon Kurt Master set, a Google assistant process of fully launching this new eye, according to this blog post expert expected to be fully launched by November 4th. So I suggest we just keep this issue open for the next 10 days and we'll see if it's updated but thanks to all of you who joined this discussion. And we're just trying to figure out why this thing is happening. Hopefully, in 10 days, we'll have this issue, fixed and close. + +Denis Lelic: I'm just gonna have anything else happened. And if any other comments happened here around other issues, this issue was brought up by human HQ so Piyush and his team and it was just asking a global search across the whole website. + +Denis Lelic: So Peter and his team, they're gonna expand this issue and provide more details, whenever they find time, I guess. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: I'm just reading the chat here. So here, she's saying we have a live example here. + +Denis Lelic: So it's arbit from Hub.io and Piyush. And his team were suggesting to create this kind of Functionality. I know. Let's try something. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, sounds good. Maybe we can just expand a little bit, the whole idea and everything behind This idea and how the UI would look like here and the issue section in the comment sections. + +Denis Lelic: Some of these issues are a bit. maybe outdated this one for adding FAQ space which is gonna go through these a bit late and see you what can we close + +Denis Lelic: This one has created a while ago. I'm just gonna revisit this one quickly. GPU Resource Enablement page, should contain directions to provider feature. Okay, I see human age. You self assigned this two weeks ago. So piyush, if you can provide us an update, maybe you just drop it here in the comments section if you're not able to talk now. + +Denis Lelic: And this one of course that was created by Tyler a long time ago, and we should definitely work on this but from the Last drafts I shared here. We should definitely have a look at the content. We have to restructure the content a little bit. I talked to Zach about it but he's been working on different tasks and probably whenever he finds time. He's gonna have a look at this thing here and see what can we do. One thing I was talking about we should talk more about integrations here and also, + +Denis Lelic: Some sort of call to action or a section where we talk about startups, and how they can leverage Network and universities as well. So that's something we should add here as well. So I'm gonna create a new mock-up and just drop it here and in the section and when we have a green light for the content, then we can start working on the implementation here. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Piyush is saying for the last task. Relate To GPU text edition. We will do the PD to R pretty soon. Just need to get the confirmation from Andre. I have already paid him with the preview, Thank so these are the issues that are still currently open. and as usual, I'm gonna leave this part of the meeting open for discussions. If you guys want to talk about anything, maybe if you've seen a bug here, there you want to create a new issue, or you want to tackle some of these that are still open, just feel free to talk. yes, Benjamin + +Benjamin B: Hi, I just want to mention that. I'm jumping in a little for Robert now, for the silly secret code for Participating in this whole And a slow time. The code for this meeting will be www. As in worldwide web. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Yes, I + +Tyler Wright: I just want to see if there's issues created for the community page or any of those other pages that I know we want people to help contribute, I know we need to do some mock-ups for, I know that Adam is working on content for the community page. And again, I know we have a number of contributors in the ecosystem there looking to get more involved, but I just want to see if there's an issue for the community yet. If not, can we create one? + +Denis Lelic: Sure Which part of the community. Sorry. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: The end I think the entire community page needs an overhaul. I think right now it's very bare minimum to say the least and so I think the entire page needs a rework redesign and then this is a ton more content that Adam wants to add to it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. I think we're missing. Also something about + +Denis Lelic: A general page about community so we have. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, exactly. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, We have the insiders community contributions and validators. So Especially this page around insiders could tell more, it could be visually more. Engaging, I guess we can share some photos from the events as we discussed a couple of times already, but I'll get in touch, maybe with Adam to see, what are his ideas around it and we can just take it from there. I'll create a mock up. We'll do some iterations and for anyone's interested from the community to create this implemented. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of takers. I'm happy to see each issue has a bunch of people. + +Denis Lelic: Trying to work on themselves, but just great. That's something we were looking for basically, from the beginning of this Building in the open on how to call it, exactly. But I'm sure your guys are aware what I'm talking about. Yes. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I + +Tyler Wright: I just want to add to that for those that are contributing. Yeah, we talked about things, we assign project, if you can drop in just the hours. And I think many of folks are doing. But just as a reminder, if you could drop in the hours and then specific PR inside of the bounty ticket. This is just a way for us to track items in the public. Again, we have ways to contact you all to make sure that you all get paid end of each month for contributions that are approved on via this working group. But I just want to make sure that everybody is putting their contributions in the open because then that gets added to a transparent sheet so they can continue to improve the value of the community support proposal. And all the work that is being done by this group. So again, we try to be as transparent as possible for those that are contributing to the website or Please happy finishing item with the PR in there, just for visibility, and then the hours + +Tyler Wright: again if ours seem like erroneous the community will continue to check each other on that. But again, just put the hours and the prs and then we'll make sure that everyone gets proper rewards at the end of each month. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I I usually direct all contributors to do the same, so thanks time. + +Denis Lelic: So anything else you guys want to discuss? + +Tyler Wright: Real Quick. Can you go to the development page? Please. + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, doesn't seem like much of an issue here when I was on a browser, maybe I had a different size computer but the calendar wasn't visible and I was wondering because the calendar is so important. If there should be a link to it at the top in that second header, or if it doesn't matter as much. But right here on your browser, doesn't seem to be an issue, you can get right to it. So I was just really quickly want to see if there's any thoughts on that, but it seems like it's fine for now. So I'll leave it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, while we're at the calendar here, it's the I guess already updated UI. So sometimes I'm seeing the other one. Now it's this new one but for the + +Denis Lelic: Let me see. But issue is just threat, you've just raised a while ago, we talked about having community calendar, as a sticky button which would follow the scroll all the time. And + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, it would look like this. So when a user clicks on this, it's just gonna open up the whole calendar and it's gonna look something. In this manner. But as soon as we have, + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: Some updates regarding the content on this page. I'll give a green light here in this issue and I'll share down the discord as well if anyone wants to help with the implementation but yeah, I do agree Tyler with Calendar should be more permanent and In users face. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, cool. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, so We're kind of went quickly through the closed issues and mention all these that are still open and I'll create an issue for the community as well. So if you guys, Agree. We can wrap it up early today and next week and then week after that I'll be taking some time off but you guys are free to meet Tyler's gonna. I'm sure inform you if the meeting is going to move otherwise I'll Have a look at the recording, just to see where we at. + +Denis Lelic: thanks for joining everyone. Happy to see you here, and we'll talk on discord. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you all. Thank you, Denis. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:18:50 👋 + From 60f276fffa7ee94b165f5539856eef8442afcbed Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 01:40:16 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 17/19] Create meeting notes for wg-youtube #5 (#707) * Create meeting notes for wg-youtube #5 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 005-2024-08-20.md added transcript CHORE: add recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater * Update 005-2024-08-20.md added recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md | 200 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 200 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3e63a957 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md @@ -0,0 +1,200 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #5 + +## Agenda +- Review progress from last week’s meeting. +- Discuss uploading steering committee meetings to YouTube. +- Presentation of finalized YouTube shorts by Robert Del Rey. +- Addressing comments on the YouTube channel. +- Phase two of YouTube channel updates starting in September. +- Frequency of future calls and engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://33g64kf23glcf6lvownakezsu2y43cnrfammlnlxnxx3hxkskepa.arweave.net/3s3uKLrZliL5dXWaBRMyprHNibEoGMW1d23vs91SUR4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- Rodri R +- oo o +- B S +- musiclakshmikant + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Progress from Last Week**: + - Robert Del Rey has not yet uploaded the steering committee calls to YouTube as the graphic assets, including opening and closing screens, are still pending. + - YouTube does not allow post-upload edits for intro/outro screens, so the assets need to be finalized before uploading. + - Robert may take the lead in creating these assets if needed. + +- **YouTube Shorts Presentation**: + - Robert shared the final versions of three YouTube shorts, which are now ready for publishing. The feedback from the previous meeting was implemented, and the shorts have been improved in quality and presentation. + - The shorts are currently unlisted on YouTube, available only to those with the link. + - Robert shared one short during the meeting for feedback and confirmed that the other two will be uploaded soon. + +- **Comments on the YouTube Channel**: + - Robert noted that while comments on the YouTube channel are minimal (one to two per week), questions about becoming a provider on the Akash Network are common. + - A discussion followed about how to best respond to these comments. Rodri suggested keeping responses short and guiding people to the Akash Discord, where they can ask more detailed questions. + - Rodri also mentioned the existence of an earnings calculator for providers, which could be useful in responding to these questions. + +- **Phase Two of YouTube Updates**: + - Phase two of the YouTube channel revamp is set to begin in September, which will involve more frequent content uploads and community engagement. + - During this phase, the team will focus on repurposing and re-uploading videos, sharing content across platforms, and promoting it on Twitter and other social media. + - Robert encouraged everyone to be prepared for the increased activity during phase two. + +- **Future Call Frequency**: + - The frequency of the SIG calls will change from weekly to biweekly moving forward, as the current phase is focused on assessing the channel and preparing for more active content creation. + - Robert suggested that the call frequency may increase again once phase two begins in September. + +- **Omniflix TV**: + - Robert introduced the idea of using Omniflix TV, a platform in the Cosmos ecosystem, as an additional venue for posting Akash videos. It offers engagement features like tips and community interaction. + - He is considering uploading Akash videos to Omniflix TV alongside YouTube, as it wouldn’t require much additional effort. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Follow up with Dennis on the graphic assets for the steering committee call videos. If no progress, create the assets personally. + - Upload the finalized YouTube shorts once ready. + - Attend the design working group meeting to discuss branding and graphic assets. + - Once assets are available, upload steering committee call recordings with intro/outro screens and uniform thumbnails. + +- **General**: + - Continue keeping YouTube comment responses short and direct users to the Akash Discord for more detailed discussions. + - Prepare for phase two of the YouTube channel update starting in September, with more active content uploads and social media promotion. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: All right everybody. Thank you so much for joining these I cast YouTube working group on this call We discuss all things about a cash YouTube at the moment. The plan is to revamp the channel make it look better make it attract more people. And overall overall revamping their Cash YouTube channel and improves their content quality. So yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you for joining. So guys I don't have many topics for today as you can see Tyler's not joining Dennis. It's not joining either. We're still trying to figure out. the best time for this call So bear with us for a second. + +Robert Del Rey: yeah last week. + +Robert Del Rey: What did we do last week? Let me open up my agenda? + +Robert Del Rey: awesome All that's quick. I remember I show you some shorts that are gonna be available in the cash due to page. we had two items to follow up on this week. One of them was uploading the sitting comedy course YouTube. I gotta say I haven't uploaded them yet. Because I still don't have the graphics to upload them. so basically instead of just uploading the calls as they are. We want to edit the calls a little to Opening screen and add a closiness screen So until I get that I won't be able to upload. the video + +Robert Del Rey: Is it the tireless screen that we still needed when you say that Tyler's screen is youre Or you're referring to an intro S3 in the actual video. + +Robert Del Rey: that little intro that Tyler talked about I still haven't got those assets so. + +Robert Del Rey: I thought I could upload the videos to YouTube and then edit the videos. But that is not possible in YouTube. If we want to add something like that to the video, it has to be added before we upload you. So that's why I have an uploaded because I don't have the assets as soon as I get the assets. I will upload them. I believe I will end up doing them myself maybe who knows? But yeah, that. I can tell you though that the three YouTube shorts are ready for publishing after getting your feedback guys. This short look way better now, and I'm ready for posting. Let me go ahead and share my screen weekly with you so you can see it as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, this should be the ones. boasts one second guys + +Robert Del Rey: second + +Robert Del Rey: I had a pride. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, I will share my screen. Okay. Okay. What's your message? + +Robert Del Rey: Let me know if you can see it guys. + +Robert Del Rey: You said? Okay. Hey don't play with my man. you didn't see in the car. + +Robert Del Rey: on the environment another day alive All So let me show you guys I uploaded the three shorts. They are unlisted at the moment. So. Nobody can see them only people with the link. And yeah, let's see this one. The quality is a little bit better. also presentation + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I believe that so yeah guys that is one of the best shorts at the moment. I would only show you this one. The other two were fixed Which upload them soon? + +Robert Del Rey: But yeah, that's the thing. I want to share with you. Like I said, this call is going to be a little short today. There are some conflicting calls which are affecting the attendance, but That is one that those are the topics from last week the graphic assets, which we don't have yet in the YouTube short spinal versions. + +Robert Del Rey: Besides that another topic that I wanted to bring to the table. It's about comments and replies on the YouTube channel at the moment. We're not getting that many comments, but still we get one or two comments a week. + +Robert Del Rey: at the moment. Nobody's responding them. So let me show you one question. + +Robert Del Rey: That there is at the moment. for example Let me just share the screen again. + +Robert Del Rey: I'd say we'll just share this thing again. It's easier to explain that way. And you see the screen guys? + +Robert Del Rey: I see a thumbs Thanks, Rodney. So at the moment, for example, we got this month. We got these two comments. These one is three weeks ago. It says this video needs to be remade. I watched the video and I thought I agree the video looks a little blurry. And it's very hard to follow the instructions. So I do agree with this guy that the video will be uploaded again. Now the comment that I want to grieve to bring to your attention is usually most of the comments are related to this can I use a regular computer with a 360 and put it on the Akash Network? Usually most of the questions are in this line. how can I provide on a cash? What computer do I need to provide on my cash things like that? + +Robert Del Rey: So what I wanted to ask you a specifically rodri, I wanted to get your input on this. How do you believe it's the best way to respond to this questions because the answer can get too big in my opinion? For example, there are many angles that you can answer this question. For example. You can ask the guy if if they want to make money in a question Network. And you're gonna provide with just a regular laptop. It's gonna be harder for you because you're gonna be against people with the big equipments you see + +Robert Del Rey: But if you want to just send out a cash and just know the flow of it and how you use it. It's certainly fine. If you connect a regular computer, we have 30 60. Am I early? Am I getting it right? So what I wanted to confirm is how it should respond, Should we give the answer short? and guide people to other places in the community or should we respond with a big text giving them all the possible details that they might. and the third question Who should answer this comments in their Cash YouTube channel? So I'll leave it up to you in case you want to share something. If not, that's totally fine. + +Rodri R: I'm an opinion and keeping a short would be better. especially if you put a text and on the video then maybe gonna take a while to read what they're gonna have to posit or something. Maybe point someone to the Discord. But maybe mostly short answers I think would be better. And what he said, it's right. I mean if you want to earn akt and to become a provider. If you just have your normal computer laptop. It's gonna be hard to compete with the larger providers. Although they could do some kind of maybe mining or other stuff that could earn them to make by deploying akt by a normal laptop or + + +### 00:10:00 + +Rodri R: earning a kitty would be earning something else, but you would be deploying on a cash. Yeah, it's kind of hard to keep it short because like you said there's many ways that can be done. + +Robert Del Rey: alternative with you, man That maybe we should route them to. other places like this or in there they can chat and ask all the questions that they want And this score we'll have to recognize that this or a cash Discord is one of the most helpful and responsive discourse in the crypto Market in my opinion. So against that yeah, like you say rodri's will keep the answer shorts and Route people to Discord. it's gonna give us a great result in my opinion. as if there is a calculators to let people estimate their earnings. I don't know if there is a calculator for that. Maybe rodri can share some like yeah. + +Rodri R: Yeah, there's a calculator in prayer app. I think it's now in the console as well. Yeah, there's a culture. I don't have the link right now, but there is one. + +Robert Del Rey: more than moving Thank you. Rodri. Okay, okay. + +Robert Del Rey: You need one second guys and high Tyler. + +Rodri R: I'll share the link to calculator later, but I'm at a Burger King right now taking care of the child in the playground. + +Robert Del Rey: And that's looking fine. Thanks for sharing. + +Robert Del Rey: I wouldn't mind having a burger right now, honestly. although it's + +Rodri R: I agree one now playing. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay guys, so just a little recap. God. Okay. What was it? + +Robert Del Rey: can you say that again rodried? What kind of content you're referring to right now? + +Robert Del Rey: thank you so much at the moment. Were not uploading anything. + +Robert Del Rey: in this time, we're just assessing the channels what we can do. Right now we're focused on the formatting of the videos. We are focused on the titles what they say. We're focus on the descriptions on the videos what they will say and around September we're gonna start phase two and during phase two we're gonna be more active with content. So I believe that that's the time where you can contribute way more because we're gonna repurpose the video. We're gonna pre upload them. And we also going to share in Twitter and other areas. So yeah, this is gonna be a big game for guys. So yeah be ready because when we start we're really gonna start if that makes sense. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, I was gonna do a little recap for the people joining later. Basically we cover. + +Robert Del Rey: The last week items Facebook about the graphic assets. We will include in the videos to be of love with it. I just clarify that when you upload a video to YouTube. There are some minor things that you can edit. but you cannot do a big editing For example, if I upload a video and I decided I want to add a new Opening screen or a new closet screen. I won't be able to do that. I will need to delete the video and edit the video and we upload again. So just guys to be aware about that. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: so one of the shorts that we're doing to highlight those sites of information in the info regarding the page. At the moment I did three shorts with one of the correct thoughts. And yeah, you saw the final version. It's later on YouTube. It hasn't been uploaded yet. But And we spoke about how we will handle the comments and responses. I totally agree with you. + +Robert Del Rey: guys Sorry, I just got a message. Iteran agreed with you guys rodri. We should keep the answers short and and Route people Are shots in the shots, they will have more chances to ask more broader questions. I guess go ahead project. + +Robert Del Rey: totally alrighty + +Robert Del Rey: so those are all the topics that I had for today. I'm just gonna open it up. To that you in a session in case you guys have questions or ideas now, it's a good time to share them. But before that, let me advise you guys the frequency of these call. It's gonna be change. + +Robert Del Rey: As I was saying Oakley, at the moment we're just reviewing the channel assessing the things that we would do. However, we're going to be way more active in the phase two for September or around that day. So the frequency of this call is gonna be changed at the moment instead of being weekly as we were doing it. It's gonna be By weekly now, it's gonna be every other week Guess one week. No. Or every two weeks after it in all the ways that you can say it I guess so, yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe after this month or maybe when we start the next phase and we need to give more updates. Maybe we can increase the frequency. Maybe we leave it that way. Who knows? But yeah at the moment the frequency of this call is going to be changed to apply weekly. That is one note that I have to share with you now. Yeah, we can answer to the Q&A session. So let me know guys anything else you want to touch about the attached YouTube channel + +Robert Del Rey: All right. If there is not that thoroughly fine. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, yeah. another thing that I have in the back of my head, but I haven't would much effort into it is only flicks TV, on Netflix is an old partner of a cash and somewhat big in the cosmos ecosystem. They have business streaming platform. And projects can upload their videos and there is no a cash presence in that platform. So something I'm really considering. is that we should at least use it as an extra platform to post a cash on and if we publish a video on a cash YouTube, I don't see why not. We couldn't publish on Netflix TV as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, it's very engaging also people can give you tips. You can also convert your videos it gives you some other ways to engage with your community. So just dropping out the idea. It's not something like I'm serious seriously considering but something that It wouldn't require the X-ray for honestly, so that's why I'm sharing it And Yeah, the next working group called then it's gonna be on next month September the Third. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: and yeah, we already guys in the meantime. We have the cash YouTube this course Channel. And feel free to drop your questions or comments in there, too. Now I could see a question in the shed. Do you have a link to their hash style sheet I can try to make the tireless screen on camera if you want. Thank you so much for approaching b s i can well. + +Robert Del Rey: the guidelines I don't have the guidelines. We will need to talk with Dennis about that but I can send you the brand assets so you can get started doing some drop if you want to I have done some myself so I could share them with you so you can have an idea and I'm using the last designs as a guide. Let me give you a visual example. For example, I did one thumbnail and I got inspired by this. Brand design. These are for example if you see the last videos of a cache. the thumbnails I try to do I want to be in line with this. So maybe if you want to do something. + +Robert Del Rey: It can be something similar to this and then you can share it in the cash Discord Channel in the next call and we go from there. or maybe we could take this to the design working group called tomorrow. I don't know. It's your choice. I'll be there tomorrow as well. So. Yeah. that could be a good place to get a started. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for stepping up All So guys anything else you want to touch on before we leave these two experience? + +Robert Del Rey: If not, that's I will tell you my promises for the next two weeks. I will join the design working group called tomorrow to follow up on these designs. As soon as I have the designs. I will go ahead then and upload the steering Community calls the YouTube channel. A Tyler. Let me ask you my man, and you don't have to jump in if you don't want to maybe you can write the message. But besides the steering committee calls are there other call recordings you would like to upload Cash YouTube. + +Tyler Wright: I think that's a group decision. Eventually. I've thought about maybe all of them but I feel like that might get too cluttered. Maybe we just start with the steering committee and then we can make sure that it links to the community repo and go from there. But if anybody here thinks that we should be adding other more specific cigs, like sick providers get a lot of traction a lot of those things get a lot of traction so we could talk about it here for But steering committee. I thought was a great starting point because it's like a culmination of everything that goes on. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Tyler, and I Agree, we can. Start with that one and go from there. So yeah, let's do that. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, guys, let's talk into weeks the recording for this should be available soon. In the comments for these calls should be on Discord as well. I'm inviting you again to get involved in the conversation in their Cash YouTube. And again my DMs are open and see you sing in two weeks guys if not sooner. with that being said have a nice weekend and see you in the mirrors. All right. + +Robert Del Rey: my pleasure by + +oo o: You give them? + + +### Meeting ended after 00:24:49 👋 + From baf157372cd4ab4c5e783088e0d9102f247f2df1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 01:42:30 +0000 Subject: [PATCH 18/19] Create meeting notes for wg-youtube #4 (#706) * Create meeting notes for wg-youtube #4 Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> * Update 004-2024-08-16.md added transcript CHORE: add recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater * Update 004-2024-08-16.md added recording link Signed-off-by: Drinkwater --------- Signed-off-by: George Appiah <48031636+iamGeorgePro@users.noreply.github.com> Signed-off-by: Drinkwater Co-authored-by: Drinkwater --- wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/004-2024-08-16.md | 317 ++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 317 insertions(+) create mode 100644 wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/004-2024-08-16.md diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/004-2024-08-16.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/004-2024-08-16.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c215e65f --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/004-2024-08-16.md @@ -0,0 +1,317 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #4 + +## Agenda +- Recap of the previous week's topics. +- Presentation of YouTube shorts by Robert Del Rey. +- Discussion on YouTube content strategy, including disclaimers and playlist organization. +- Steering committee meeting videos: uploading, editing, and standardizing formats. +- Ideas and suggestions for the Akash YouTube channel content and engagement. +- Open feedback on YouTube shorts. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://2s3tsd4sgje2eejd73cobhnxqvxg3hbgakrz6arg5dxocbhzrcia.arweave.net/1Lc5D5IySaIRI_7E4J23hW5tnCYCo58CJuju4QT5iJA) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- Rodri R +- oo o + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Recap of Last Week’s Topics**: + - Robert Del Rey received admin access to the Akash YouTube channel. + - There was discussion on needing graphic assets such as thumbnails and opening/closing cards. + - Video descriptions were updated to include timestamps, links to Akash Network’s social media, Akash Console link, and disclaimers. The group agreed on including disclaimers for educational purposes or when presenting beta tools. + - A feature videos playlist with high-view-count videos was created, along with plans for adding community-driven content. + - Shorts are considered part of the content strategy, though none were posted yet. + +- **YouTube Content Strategy**: + - Tyler Wright emphasized the importance of creating deliverables from previous discussions, especially for steering committee meetings. + - He proposed uploading all past steering committee recordings and organizing them into a playlist with proper titles and descriptions, starting from historical content. + - There was agreement that while full recordings would be uploaded, a short branded intro/outro should be added for consistency, though minimal time would be spent editing. + +- **Presentation of Shorts**: + - Robert Del Rey presented three sample shorts, showcasing different styles and music. Due to technical issues, the audio could not initially be heard during the screen share, but Robert eventually uploaded them to YouTube as unlisted for the team to review. + - The shorts highlighted key features like Kubernetes integration and Akash’s original code being used by major companies. + - There was positive feedback from the group on the content and value of the shorts, but the animations were noted as being too fast, and subtitles were too large. + - Robert suggested using Premiere Pro's auto-ducking feature for better audio balance and noted that future edits could address these concerns. + +- **Feedback on Shorts**: + - Tyler and the others liked the shorts but suggested a smoother transition to a closing screen with Akash branding to avoid abrupt endings. Robert agreed and suggested waiting for the official graphic assets before finalizing the format. + - They also discussed adding more icons to maintain viewer engagement, especially given the short-form content’s nature. + +- **Community Engagement**: + - Tyler encouraged more public discussions in the Discord channels rather than private DMs to engage the broader community and activate participation. + - Robert emphasized that public activity on channels helps maintain interest and attract new members. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Finalize and upload all steering committee calls to the YouTube playlist with consistent naming conventions. + - Add a branded intro/outro to each video. + - Edit the presented shorts based on feedback: slow down animations, resize subtitles, and adjust audio using auto-ducking. + - Separate the three compiled shorts into individual videos and prepare them for publishing. + +- **Tyler Wright**: + - Coordinate with Robert on finalizing descriptions and content for the steering committee playlist. + - Promote the new YouTube content via marketing efforts. + +- **General**: + - Continue public discussions in the Akash YouTube working group Discord to increase visibility and encourage community participation. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: I think + +Robert Del Rey: Right everybody. Happy Tuesday. And welcome to this. Addition of the Akash YouTube working group, I believe this is the support call so far. + +Robert Del Rey: within making process planning brainstorming and forming this effort to rebound the Akash YouTube channel. So I like to start. By recapping the topics from last week. and then we can move on to the topics from this week this week I have + +Robert Del Rey: a sample presentation for you I made some shorts and I will share my screen to share those shorts with you so you can let me know what you think about them. + +Robert Del Rey: So before doing that last week, we confirm I got the admin access to the cash YouTube channel. We also briefly spoke about the graphic assets that we will need. to complement the videos some of those assets include thumbnails and opening and closing cards for the videos. + +Robert Del Rey: I didn't spoke with Dennis this week. So hopefully we would get an update on that soon. Moving on with the descriptions and tiles for the videos last week. We showed case. how the new description format will look we spoke about the description adding timestamps. Having the links to the different Akash Network social media channels. And also we added links to existing content along with discussing a disclaimer. + +Robert Del Rey: We can agree that having a not Financial advice disclaimer would give maybe the running impression, but we did agree on having a disclaimer on education beta for example, if we have a tool that we're presenting in a video and it's on better. We agreed that it would make sense to have a disclaimer saying hey this tool is even better. It might have errors at their own risk. Or if it's an educational video having a disclaimer saying that this information is for educational purposes. something along those lines what we added new to the description was the cash dot console link. + +Robert Del Rey: To make sure all the description can have that link and people have a quick access to the cash console. Which is the flagship tool let's say for my cash Network. So yeah, the study if you want to see the description entitles documents, you can find it in the Channel plan document I will send both links right now as I always do. + +Robert Del Rey: Next to that we went over the YouTube video playlist and the sections we discussed on ideas about the different topics. in the playlist We mainly spoke about deployments and tutorials. Also about other kinds of videos like Akash events participation. And yet cash community. For example the steering committee call. + +Robert Del Rey: We added a feature videos playlist with some of the highest view count videos about a cash. And we also spoke about the possibility of adding feature from trusted community members inside the cash YouTube channel + +Robert Del Rey: Lastly we also added the short section. We're going to talk about the YouTube shorts in a moment. at the moment, we don't have any shorts, but we do consider them as part of the content strategy that we are planning for a cash in the next coming months. So yeah, those were mainly the topics from last week. I want to stop for a brief second to hear if everybody has thoughts from last week, which they want to share now. Otherwise move on to the next topic. So I will give you a few seconds to think about the topics from last week. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Heads down with some other Sig design stuff and some console stuff. So I think you'll have some time to dedicate to the class YouTube channel later this week. in terms of I guess deliverables as we talk about last week, I would love to figure out to maybe we can get some additional support from somebody here, but I would love to start to maybe get + +Tyler Wright: the steering committee meetings on the YouTube channel of the playlist just so we can start to tease alright, there's a lot of work that's starting to get done around the YouTube channel to look out for here's how to access the steering committee a little easier to decide just to GitHub and look out for, get If you want to get involved in helping out the YouTube channel, just like a call to action that we can do on the marketing front so I would love to start to see some of things. We talked about turning to deliverables and I just want to see if anybody here has any time or bandwidth. I know Robert's working on some things as well. But I'm excited to see what's going on this week in the short side and what elsewhere so + +Robert Del Rey: Things where they had supplies, Go ahead. please. + +oo o: Yeah, a Tyler. I think you asking if anybody's will help us in. + +Tyler Wright: Sorry, yeah, I was on Yes. Yeah, I mean not really asking just talking about it. I know Robert has been leading this group. But again just like any of these six and working groups, anybody's open to participate, sometimes I participate as an overclock Labs member and we'll get some work done same with Dennis and others but if there's anybody else from the community that wants to participate whether it's just helping to write descriptions. Maybe it's a doc that didn't then it's copied over or helping, add specific steering committees, or we have a entire cost Community groups drive that's available to people in the community. And again just adding all the steering committee videos as an example with some content and maybe a link to the GitHub or a link to console whatever we agree upon us a group. + +Tyler Wright: I think we can move into that phase a little bit while we're also ideating on some things. I think for me and Robert correct me from wrong, but the goal is really to have. A number of efforts going on at the same time as we look to continue to manage and grow the YouTube channel. + +Robert Del Rey: Of course. Thank you so much We also have the cash YouTube working group open on Discord. So in case you don't have time to catch up the whole life. We can always resume the conversation and that these core Channel. Let me quickly ask you Tyler. I do have the link to the three Comedy Calls. so a few questions Would you like to upload all the files available there? I believe there are over 20 call recordings. Or if you prefer to have calls from a specific date until today. to be added + +Tyler Wright: And I think I would love to add all of them, you… + +Robert Del Rey: Okay. + +Tyler Wright: all of them historically with the same sort of naming convention. So Akash steering committee monthly meeting with the specific date, and then from there. We could figure out fine-tuning the descriptions or whatever, but I would love to at least start having them available there just as another reference point. They're always will live on are for whatever tool we end up using so that they have some web free home, but for easier access, I would like to make a playlist around them and then again kind of Market that playlist. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, let's do that. And the other quick question is. Do you want any kind of editing going on to those videos or do you prefer just to have the whole full call uploaded as it is in the recording? + +Tyler Wright: The only thing that I would want to do is potentially add an intro and an outro a short five seconds, branded a costume and then have a uniform thumbnail, but I don't want to spend too much time and energy editing those videos to be honest. I think there's could be better use of time and effort. But again,… + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: it's quite a lot. + +Tyler Wright: I would like to add if that's very easy. I would love to add a little short intro to each so that they at least look the same when you start, has the date the steering committee, maybe a General screen maybe who's on the steering committee? And then it just pops into the meeting from there? + +Robert Del Rey: Great, German we got it. + +Robert Del Rey: They can work on that this week. + +Robert Del Rey: one second guys + +Rodri R: No worries. + +Robert Del Rey: Hey rodri evidence didn't see you. Thanks for coming in. + +Robert Del Rey: So for next week, we should have the seating Community calls live into the community video playlist + +Robert Del Rey: we have to pay special attention for an intro screen. with a brief overview of the call and then we can start out the description and other kinds of elements of the video. One thing that can be done is that the videos can be uploaded? And they can be uploaded as unlisted so that way they will be on YouTube but people won't be able to find them onto we're ready to publish so. That's something that can be done in the meantime. + +Robert Del Rey: thank you so much today. let's go for the short samples. + +Robert Del Rey: Let me open this up. Usually when I share my screen. people cannot hear the audio from my end. So let's do a little test. I will take over your screen sharing now if you don't mind. + +Tyler Wright: Not at all. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, we have infinity mirror over there. I will playlist. Let me know if you can hear this video. + +Tyler Wright: I still see a number of infinity screen. you're playing it. No, I can't hear the audio. That's just me. + +Rodri R: me neither + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, okay. What? + +oo o: they recognize + +Robert Del Rey: I messed up sharing now. + +Robert Del Rey: Never been able to sort this out. It's because of the headsets. + +Robert Del Rey: mmm + +Robert Del Rey: When you shared your screen tight, you don't have to press on any other setting you just share the screen and you share the audio as well or is that a separate option? + +Tyler Wright: Sorry When I go to the share screen area and also says also share tab audio. And on the bottom that has a dongle that I can turn off and on. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I can see it. Thank you so much, man. Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, it says to share audio share at that instead. Okay, so I need to share that. + +Robert Del Rey: Wow, will this be possible? Let's see. Let me open up the period. + +Robert Del Rey: So these are three shorts together in one single video. + +Robert Del Rey: so that they have Some difference in a style also. The music for each is different which are with you. Hopefully you can hear it as well and through the share your feedbacks or let me know if this is something that you would like to have India cash Channel. We share. let's hear Eros here. You see the screen right? You see Greg and kubernetes. right + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Yes. + +Robert Del Rey: right Let me know if you can hear it. one second + +Robert Del Rey: Can you hear it? + +Rodri R: let me + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: Not me either. + +oo o: Not me either. + +Robert Del Rey: That's okay That's okay. I'm gonna be right back. + +Robert Del Rey: We're gonna try again in a few seconds. Let's see. + +Rodri R: If I'm not wrong, I think you're using OBS to share or just go Google here. + +Robert Del Rey: I'm using just Google right now. + +Rodri R: Okay, then now because when he started sharing your screen, we saw a mirror stuff. I thought you were using Obi. not sure at all. + +Robert Del Rey: That was because of the Google meet. I'm trying something else right now. Let's see. + +Robert Del Rey: We're gonna + +Robert Del Rey: I'm just uploading in YouTube. It's gonna be unlisted so nobody will be able to see it. Maybe that way I can share that sound with you. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah. Yes. Wait, just one minute. + +Robert Del Rey: 30 seconds left. All right. That's got the high speed internet. + +Robert Del Rey: Do you remember the days when we used to have dialogue? And you need to disconnect if somebody was going to make a phone call in the house. + +Robert Del Rey: We were all this. + +Rodri R: Remember that yeah. + +oo o: That's my current. + +Robert Del Rey: These kids today. + +oo o: That's correct my TV ringtone. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, today's have no idea and we had it before. + +Robert Del Rey: All right. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: I have to be there right now on YouTube. It's only listed so nobody else will be. + +Robert Del Rey: Great, I believe this is gonna work. Thanks for bearing with me guys. I will share the screen again right now. and also share that how you + +Robert Del Rey: let's go you see Greg, right? + +Robert Del Rey: you will hear Greg hopefully, okay, so I think + +Robert Del Rey's Presentation: look like again right after kubernetes found it kubernetes was launched in 2014. We were so fascinated by the technology. We wanted to make kubernetes a more production ready and fall tolerant and some of the origins things haven't changed the vision remain tag only the product and it came along quite a lot. We began the company in 2015 to make high performance Computing a possibility kubernetes had the foundational air and during the course of a development. We wrote quite a lot of code. In fact, there's a video here 2015 I talk to Akash the first black coaches written about nine years ago. + +Robert Del Rey: that was the first one. Doing a few seconds. The other one is going to start. They compiled it together. + +Robert Del Rey: I hope + +Robert Del Rey's Presentation: But more for the library these reports and… + +Robert Del Rey: okay Okay, here is it? + +Robert Del Rey's Presentation: delete these reports. + +Robert Del Rey's Presentation: But delete these reports in a network break our clothes that we wrote are deeply embedded in the kubernetes ecosystem at this point. I can see here as ranked number four for the libraries. We've written for a cash. I mean right in between Google and Mozilla and only human being on the list. I rank number 13 across the globe and the libraries are now used by funeral companies that you probably heard of these are the original Cash Source Code now, excuse me, Nvidia EMS, hash course, in fact media use, the cash libraries their Community drivers or network that uses kubernetes and Nvidia gpus effectively is a cautious source code. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: That's the second one like that one. In the fair one. here is just + +Robert Del Rey's Presentation: we found a coach originally when we found Akash, we didn't go down there decentralized. In fact, it was very centralized but a challenge with some class control plan. Is this fall tolerance, So when you have large clusters talk to a single control plane the chances of the control pain breaking down or causing Deadlocks is a combination if we quickly realize that you cannot scale to any level of high performance using a centralized control plane. The only way to massively scale is go back to the roots how internet was founded a decentralized network where instead of a single control plane can have a decent last control plane. There's no dependency on a single one of you + +Robert Del Rey: And there you go. That was it guys. So now it's the time any thoughts feedbacks. How do you feel about these shorts? + +Robert Del Rey: Absolutely. + +Robert Del Rey: This is the only listed link so people won't be able to find. the video on their own only with this link there will be able to see the videos just so + +Robert Del Rey: And I share it private. So yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: This one came from the first talk of the Akash accelerate. And yeah, it was really fun. I do agree with you that since shorts hard super shorts. maybe the best way to use these tool is by sharing these core values about a cash like this and presentation. As Craig was talking. And also a specific features the kubernetes stuff this one about the source code of a cash being used in all of these companies. + +Robert Del Rey: I believe that is a good piece of information that people can quickly cash right after they watch a quick 30 second shorts. That's why I believe these are so powerful. The long-form video are key. Honestly. It's proven on YouTube people look for long form content. But shorts they also have this space and I believe we can combine those two elements and come up with something really really nice for a cashew. So yeah, any other feedback maybe there's subtitles were a little big or maybe the animation was a little faster looking at it today with fresh ice. I can see they are a bit faster animations. It might be hard to read but I can go back to the editing tool and make sure that looks better for next time. + +Robert Del Rey: And also make sure the volume it's a little lower so we can hear Greg's. For editing I used to Adobe Premiere Pro. I've been using Adobe for almost two years now. I started with filmora. Being And then migrated to Adobe. I also use these AI tools that you hear lately. + +Robert Del Rey: These tools you can just upload the video and they basically edit the short video for you. I'll use a bunch of those six or seven. But at the moment, I believe they are not ready to do the job. for example, I'm the kind of person that I have to sit down and do this the best that I can do it right for me. This is not only content. it's valuable content for their cash Community, but it's also part of my work. That's why I like to take my timing doing this when I use the AI for example, that's a famous One. Sounding a lot recently. There are very limited in a sense that once the video is edited. You have not many options to + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: edit or to do a quick fix for example, usually these tools deliver the short and that is what you get. If that makes sense. So Premiere Pro has a built in vocal docking Fisher Boys. yes. I know about talking. I didn't use docking in this one. I just lower down the volume. But yeah, I believe talking might be more appropriate in this case just to give a little context talking basically if I'm talking la la when I've stopped talking the music automatically raise the volume and when I start talking again, the music automatically lowers the volume. That's the docking feature in Premiere. I don't want b s I will try it out for the outcome short. + +Robert Del Rey: Any other comments guys love all I did have a comment. I used to do shorts for two other companies one was blockstream. It's a big Bitcoin custodial. And the other one was Django exchange, you might not heard from her cosmos videos. and in the end of the short videos, we would add a closing screen with their so let's say Greg was talking la la and guard In the short answer it would transition to a closing screen. Let's say in a cash logo. The music volume goes up and that is a good closing for the shorts videos. That way they just don't stop so abruptly at the end. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, I like the touch of that. So that is something to consider. Maybe once we have the graphic assets we can play around more with that and try out if we want to have maybe the long form videos can have an intro and outro card and maybe the shorts can have an outro card. Just to make sure people. live with their cash run in their minds as soon as they finish watching our content. yeah. That's what I have for today. Honestly. I was so eager to show you this. I'm really happy that you like the initial idea. This is far from the final product. + +Robert Del Rey: That's why I like to Rocked round and once I get the feedback, then I sit down and fine-tune the shore to make sure it looks as Christina as possible. You will need to forgive me on the quality on the videos because two things this is an horizontal video. So when reframing to make sure it's portrait. It degrades the quality alegro. That's once. if I zoom in the video For example, great I needed to zoom in his talking window. I need to somebody. because of that you can lose a little bit of quality as well. So that is something to consider. For future shorts the quality. + +Robert Del Rey: Something that can be done as I work around. Maybe it's playing around with the movements. I don't know if you notice in the third shorts request was talking like this is our beginning. And the screen transition from him to the roadmap that they wrote a while back. + +Robert Del Rey: We could do more animations of that maybe to hide a little bit the quality of the videos, but other overall, they look good. They are readable. But yeah something to consider they're not going to look like super pristine because of the process behind of refraining and reframing and framing. people in the show So yeah, that's any candidates about these you have any questions guys or anything else you want to bring to the table? + + +### 00:30:00 + +Tyler Wright: The only thing that I would add if I hand it back to Robert is I've noticed so I would ask the people do this when there is conversation that is happening in Discord channels. I noticed this with Sig documentation Nate or others will leave comments and talk about the work that they've done in the Discord Channel. It gets other people that are just looking around to get more involved. So while I appreciate people dming each other and dming I think that's fine for specific things. I would love for people to start to talk to each other more in public channels because I think that gets other community members excited and activated. So just putting that out. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Simon. Yeah, I agree. Absolutely. The public way is the best way and like you say you put it perfectly usually people are just lurking around through the servers but they join a shot and they can see a sequence of messages and they can get a feel about how this channel is working or how the channel is going and that can motivate them to get involved. where you find a channel that is empty that is that silent. You can have to be opposite effect. That's the fastest way to get a people out of the community when they close to a few channels and they don't find any activity in the shots. It doesn't matter how look the GitHub looks or how many private messages we have. + +Robert Del Rey: If you go to a public Channel and this channel is silent. Yeah, the effect is gonna be something like This project is that I'm gonna get out of here and they will go ahead and find the next thing. So I really thought you were saying is along those lines die, right? + +Robert Del Rey: But yeah keep the conversation that's how we like it. Thank you so much. So yeah, so for next week, I just a little recap I will. + +Robert Del Rey: Dennis is working in other kinds of stuff. I will try to follow up with him to maybe get at least A sample nothing official but something to work on. and for next week I can have It's gonna depend on my internet, but I'm really confident that next week. I can have all the steering Community calls uploaded in the playlist. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, From shorts I will go ahead and use your feedbacks. I will fix these three improve the sound improve the quality of the subtitles and the animations maybe try to use more icons that helps to keep the lowest attention span and I will divide them right and Export them as individual videos just of the sakes perhap them ready in case you want to publish them soon another day. But yeah, those are the two things I will work on for this freaking deliver on the next working group call which is gonna happen next Tuesday. If I'm not mistake next to stay the 20th. Wow. I guess it's flying in my opinion. + +Robert Del Rey: But that's what I have for today guys. Thank you for the recording. and if anybody have any other questions feedbacks, feel free to drop them now in the next few seconds. Otherwise the cash YouTube channel. It's always okay 24/7. So feel free to go there and share your ideas. Thank you again b s Oakley rodri for taking the time to going these calls and yeah, let's do this guys. Let's do this. you see you in the miraburs. 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Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #38 + +## Agenda +- Review and discussion of newly created issues. +- Updates on Akash website features and content. +- Feedback on community contributions and engagement strategies. +- Discussion on meeting cadence and contributor coordination. +- Updates on event page templates and future usage. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, November 28, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://tdwhpg2g6vy4fvwkmud6bua3cvhqv7fdnlyaei6u2k2l56npzbfa.arweave.net/mOx3m0b1ccLWymUH4NAbFU8K_KNq8AIj1NK0vvmvyEo) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Participants +- Alex Pedersen +- Denis Lelic +- Fireflies.ai Notetaker Okhai +- Hiroyuki Kumazawa +- Hiroyuki's Notetaker +- Piyush +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes +### Issue Review +- **Image Replacement:** + - An issue was raised by Piber to replace a specific image on the website. + - Denis noted that Hiroyuki has volunteered to work on this, including creating a dark mode version of the image. + - Figma files will be shared for implementation. + +- **Text Readability:** + - Discussion on reducing line length for better readability post-navigation menu updates. + - Piyush suggested referencing OpenAI's design approach but noted its blog-focused narrowness. + - The community page margins were cited as an example of better text width. + +- **Community Page Update:** + - Content provided by Adam will be used to update all community pages. + - Mobile experience designs and icons for validators are included in the new Figma file. + +- **Funding Program Updates:** + - Updates to funding program details were discussed, including the addition of new images and more comprehensive text. + +### Contributor Coordination +- **Task Assignments:** + - Hiroyuki to estimate time and resources for assigned tasks. + - Contributors like Happy Tinker and Shiny Singtax were identified for specific issues. + - Tyler emphasized transparency in issue comments for clarity. + +- **Template Implementation:** + - Piyush highlighted issue #418 for introducing a new issue template. + - Denis agreed on separate workflow files to avoid breaking the site. + +### Community Engagement +- **Meeting Cadence:** + - Tyler suggested increasing meeting frequency to weekly for faster contributions. + - General agreement among attendees, with Tyler to update the calendar. + +- **Feedback Mechanisms:** + - Contributors were encouraged to provide comments and feedback directly on GitHub issues. + +### Event Page Updates +- **Template Standardization:** + - A new event page template was introduced for current and future events. + - Details include booth numbers, side events, and speaker information. + - Amanda will update the template for upcoming events like Denver. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis thanked attendees and encouraged ongoing communication via Discord, GitHub, and other channels. +- The meeting concluded with agreement to continue discussions on asynchronous platforms. + +## Action Items +- **Denis Lelic:** + - Share Figma files for ongoing issues. + - Coordinate with Amanda to update event page templates. +- **Hiroyuki Kumazawa:** + - Provide implementation plans and resource estimates for assigned tasks. + - Begin work on dark mode image replacement and other design tasks. +- **Piyush:** + - Share additional design feedback on GitHub. + - Assist in reviewing implementation strategies for issue templates. +- **Tyler Wright:** + - Update the meeting cadence in the team calendar. + - Coordinate with contributors to assign and track progress on issues. +- **Amanda** + - Finalize and update event page templates for 2025 events. + +# **Transcript** + +Piyush: This is I mean if hero joins Yeah, I think he joined + +Denis Lelic: Yes,… + +Denis Lelic: Hero joined. So I just started the recording. first of all, I want to welcome everybody to today's working group meeting for the Akash website. And I suggest we just kick it off and have a look at the latest issues that were created. So the first one was done by fiber. So he suggested that we should replace this image with correct information. So I have this file here. so if anyone's interested in replacing this I'll share the Figma file. + +Denis Lelic: I know Hiro has already said he's willing to work on it and… + +Piyush: Yeah. Sure. + +Denis Lelic: needs a dark mode version of the image as well. I think I only provided this one and I'm not sure P is this an image you've created the dark version as well. but if not I can just create it and I'll share sigma file here under so next issue is to reduce the line length on the website for better readability. so this is something that's happened when we updated the new menu. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: So if anyone here on the call can recall there's been a vertical nav on the left and since we replaced it and got this drop-down new experience and with this horizontal nav we have a much wider page which means that some of the texts here are quite long. So I think I've counted one around 180 characters. + +Piyush: Oops. So I have some examples. + +Denis Lelic: Which is way too long for kind of to have a normal experience while So optimal would be something around 80 characters per line. So, we could fix this by just adding margin left right increase that side number and the text is going to be kind of more narrow and easier to read. + +Piyush: So maybe what do you think if we take example from the open AI? So I shared the link in the chat. + +Denis Lelic: Let me see if you're referring to blog. I think it's way too narrow. and I even stated here the issue is not related to blog post… + +Piyush: + +Denis Lelic: because that's a different setting. so the examples follow here with these new pages. + +Piyush: But it would be great… + +Piyush: if we can have some example. not this. yeah. Mhm. + +Denis Lelic: So community page already has this thing which the margin on the left and right is way bigger than currently what we have on coming next is the issue to update all the community pages. So content came directly from Adam. he's not here. so I've just created this issue based on his texts and requests and so on. + +Denis Lelic: So I've got a Figma file with mobile experience as well and new graphics and yes that's about it. So anyone willing to one thing I have to add icons here in the responsibilities section this is for the validators. but when I'll share Figma with anyone who's willing to work on it these icons are going to be included in Figma file as well. So next issue is the funding programs. so let's see how it looks at the moment. So if we go to development funding programs we have governance proposal and a cash grants program. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: So, what we would like to do here is update it with newly prepared texts and be more detail about what are the ways of funding a project and on So possibilities are bounties governance proposals and delegations. So we got three new images as well and… + +Piyush: + +Denis Lelic: I think that's it for everything newly created. Yeah, that's it. So as usual I would like to keep the second half of this meeting open for any discussions. If you have any questions regarding any of these issues or you would like to propose a new one, feel free to + +Piyush: Great. So I think hero have already shown the interest to do some of the issues. + +Piyush: So it would be great if you can share the Figma hall with him and I would expect hero to comment also the number of hours and the estimated time that it will take for him to complete the issues. + +Piyush: And secondly if you want to say something you can and + +Denis Lelic: Yeah,… + +Denis Lelic: I already saw our hero posted some comments and showed interest interest in some of these issues. I know Tyler has been talking with lots of community members and first of all we need some sort of timeline and of course the resources need that are going to be needed for each of these issues. + +Piyush: + +Denis Lelic: So we need to clear that if both bodies agree then we can just move along and move to the next stage. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Piyush: And also I would like to highlight the issue. I think it was raised back in zoom adding a implemented functionality for the aash blog. I think it has been raised by Zach where he wants to filter the blocks based on the author. So I've also shared some of the Figma file already in the comments like how we can implement. + +Piyush: So I just want some feedback on whether they are looking good or not. so yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Yes,… + +Denis Lelic: that's something we got to ask Zach about because he's like the keeper of the blog section and this issue was raised by him. So I would just ask him directly just to take a couple of minutes of time and have a look at these proposals here design drafts and so we have a clear direction from him. Yes. Sounds good. Yeah. type. Go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: + +Piyush: Yeah. Yeah. I think + +Tyler Wright: Sorry. + +Tyler Wright: The only thing that I was going to add was I know that P and some others had talked about changing the cadence of this meeting to more frequently weekly so we can get more and faster contributions. I don't know if that was talked about in the first couple minutes before I joined. So, I apologize, but I just want to bring that up as an agenda item because I'm happy to meet weekly and I know there's a bunch of contributions or contributors in the ecosystem that ask questions weekly and want to get more involved. So, I think a weekly meeting wouldn't be a bad idea and it doesn't have to be the whole hour. It could be however long we need, but just throwing it out there. I try to catch off to you. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I mean if everyone agrees hi P Ho, I know you're attending these meetings on a regular basis and if you guys agree we can meet every week works for me as so Tyler I think you can change the cadence of these in the calendar. Just feel free to Okay, cool. Yeah. + +Piyush: + +Piyush: So there is one issue I think raised by himself. It's the issue number 418 introduce issue mp So I think the direction behind this template is great. basically what this issue will do is it will allow the contributors to have a template while creating if they are creating a PR to the documentation site or a website or whatever. So I think the direction is good. So I just want hero to provide some proper implementation plans and what are the files that will be changed while implementing this issue. I think there needs to be some changes in the workflow file. So I just want to make it clear that we don't want to make changes to the main workflow file that is estro. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: I think we had it + +Piyush: ML for the issue templates. + +Piyush: I suggest to have a separate workflow file to avoid breaking the site. So yeah, that's my feedback on this. + +Denis Lelic: a while ago and I know we used it for console. So, let me just see. Let's have a look at some of the older issues. But the thing is sometimes these templates just don' You're right. We changed the repo. So we had it there. but yeah sometimes these template issues just don't work. Just for example for if we have a look at the latest one updating the funding programs page it just means we got to update the text. + +Denis Lelic: But I like the idea of templates for bugs just because you have to state how to replicate the bug an error or something like that and what the pix would look like. + +Piyush: + +Denis Lelic: But for that that's great. I think I would use it in that manner. But for if we just have to update text or anything like that, I would just go just straightforward and update this text, replace it with this text, and that's it. + +Piyush: Yeah. Yeah,… + +Piyush: I agree on that point. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, sounds good. anything else you guys want to talk? I know you've been talking with different community members and who's willing to take some of these newly created issues. So can you maybe sync all of them and… + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: make sure there's one doing two issues or two people doing one issue and so on. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: I'm coordinating with some folks, but again, if we talked about doing an issue, if you can just put a comment under that specific issue, that'll be transparent for everybody in the community. But I think Happy Tinker is taking one. Shiny Singtax is taking another. so again yeah, just leave a comment under the one and then if I don't see a comment in next day or so, I might reassign to somebody else because I think we want to get both of these things updated as quickly as possible. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Sounds good. Okay. maybe we just talk about this thing really quickly. So there's one new thing that happened on the website and that's this event page. we're probably going to use this template for all the future events. in the next year probably because this one is the last one happening this year. so this is a dedicated page for a detail page for events. + +Denis Lelic: So anyone who's interested to meet the core team members at different events, there's going to be a detailed page where you can read all about it and you can also find side events hosted by if there's someone speaking from the community or core team, you're going to find information where there's also a booth number that's stated here and a little bit more about what it is. You can explore the ecosystem and find some latest news. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: So that's something that we introduced for neural IPS and we're probably just going to do use this temple template for all the future events. I think the next one might be not sure. + +Tyler Wright: I think it's for tier all the events where we'll have a very big presence in 2025. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. So I'll talk to Amanda. you just have to update all the events that are currently so I think Denver we have a date for that. So we can just easily create one of these that's about it for the updates that happened in the last two weeks and we went through the issues. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: So, if you guys want to talk about anything else, now is the time. Otherwise, we can just wrap it up and continue on Discord or all the different channels we have. So, thanks again everyone for joining. we'll see each other probably next week if these meetings are going to happen every week. So, looking forward to meeting you again. + +Piyush: + +Denis Lelic: And let's stay in touch on GitHub, Discord, X, Twitter, whatever you prefer. Have a good day. Bye-bye. + +Piyush: Hey, have a good day. + +Piyush: Hold on. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you all. Bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:20:07 👋 +