diff --git a/sig-analytics/README.md b/sig-analytics/README.md index 39ffcfef..0b899dbf 100644 --- a/sig-analytics/README.md +++ b/sig-analytics/README.md @@ -27,8 +27,8 @@ Analytics Special Interest Group is dedicated to defining and building tools tha | #5 | Thursday, June 08, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/005-2023-06-08.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/005-2023-06-08.md#transcript) | [Link](https://vgq4z3pl2yzp66ubgyz4e6fm6yqh6shzdo22wkk6tucodjy2n6tq.arweave.net/qaHM7evWMv96gTYzwnis9iB_SPkbtaspXp0E4acab6c) | #6 | Thursday, July 13, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/006-2023-07-12.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/006-2023-07-12.md#transcript) | [Link](https://gf7f7walagqjm3o6iojm7scckok44sulmjm7k77n2ank3bjsbzyq.arweave.net/MX5f2AsBoJZt3kOSz8hCU5XOSotiWfV_7dAarYUyDnE) | | #7 | Thursday, August 10, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/007-2023-08-11.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/007-2023-08-11.md#transcript) |[Link](https://kqbknw24m7hpcjg4hfd2dtg4ozhiqsi4zbjdtjycxw6omyhzvfka.arweave.net/VAKm21xnzvEk3DlHoczcdk6ISRzIUjmnAr285mD5qVQ) -| #8 | Thursday, September 14, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #9 | Thursday, October 12, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #8 | Thursday, September 14, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/008-2023-09-14.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/008-2023-09-14.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://t5tmhypnhybd3jpbk3amizf6m2pl66msvvbhlqjyqnynouil4ksa.arweave.net/n2bD4e0-Aj2l4VbAxGS-Zp6_eZKtQnXBOINw11EL4qQ) +| #9 | Thursday, October 12, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/009-2023-10-12.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-analytics/meetings/009-2023-10-12.md#transcript) | [Link](https://v5ixigio4enkf7qhvlmzfptnlx6zkdite2skrznyil2d3xih6ana.arweave.net/r1F0GQ7hGqL-B6rZkr5tXf2VDRMmpKjluEL0Pd0H8Bo) | #10 | Thursday, November 09, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | | #11 | Thursday, December 14, 2023 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | diff --git a/sig-analytics/meetings/008-2023-09-14.md b/sig-analytics/meetings/008-2023-09-14.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0b90086d --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-analytics/meetings/008-2023-09-14.md @@ -0,0 +1,267 @@ +# Akash Network - Analytics Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #8 +## Agenda +- Review of Recent Analytics Efforts +- Archive Node Activation Discussion +- Cloudmos Team's Open Source Initiatives +- Update on Cloudmos Team's Indexer Work +- PRD and Analytics Discussion + + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, September 14, 2023 +- Time: 9:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://t5tmhypnhybd3jpbk3amizf6m2pl66msvvbhlqjyqnynouil4ksa.arweave.net/n2bD4e0-Aj2l4VbAxGS-Zp6_eZKtQnXBOINw11EL4qQ) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Alani Kuye +- Davut Dayan +- Jin Lim +- Max +- Maxime Cyr +- Tyler Wright + + +## Meeting Notes +- Tyler outlined the ongoing efforts and the importance of open-source solutions for analytics in the Akash ecosystem. +- Tyler explained the historical need for an open-source indexer, acknowledging the Cloudmos team's contributions and their recent decision to open source their work. +- Tyler emphasized the community's focus on building and expanding upon the indexer provided by the Cloudmos team. +- Tyler mentioned that some community members have been discussing the activation of an archive node for various use cases. + +### Update on Cloudmos Team's Indexer Work +- Maxime Cyr confirmed that the indexer has already been switched over and is open source. +- Maxime Cyr shared a [link for accessing](https://github.com/akash-network/cloudmos/tree/main/indexer) the code and encouraged everyone to explore it. +- Max B discussed changes made to the indexer, focusing on GPU and USDC tracking. +- Max B mentioned the release of a new dashboard version that displays USDC and AKT spending separately and the total value spent over time. +- Max B noted the indexing of the sandbox for testing new features. +- Max B discussed plans for adding more information related to GPUs, including GPU counts and statistics on models offered and used. + +#### Database Access Discussion + - Jin mentioned working on queries to answer questions based on the Cloudmos database. + - Jin inquired about the possibility of connecting to the Cloudmos database. + - Jin Lim requested updating the database image on GitHub to reflect the changes in GPU stats. + - Maxime Cyr agreed to create a new snapshot for users to manually insert the necessary columns. + + ### PRD and Analytics Dashboard Discussion + - Davut Dayan introduced himself, expressing interest in the discussion and sharing his role as the co-founder of [Data Lenses](https://www.datalenses.zone/chain/osmosis), an interactive analytics platform. + - Davut inquired if there were any undisclosed insights from the PRD that could be useful and offered potential support through his platform. + - Tyler suggested that the PRD reflects the most current thought process discussed during analytics monthly meetings. + - Davut expressed his plans to explore and visualize the data with data lenses and possibly provide updates in future meetings. + - Max shared the link to the [GitHub repository](https://github.com/akash-network/cloudmos/), guiding Davut to the sections where he could find the code for front-end visualization. + +### Other Matters Discussed +- Davut discussed their vision for Data Lenses to become a sophisticated tool in the ecosystem. +- He shared plans to expand the platform to cover multiple app chains in the Cosmos ecosystem and potentially introduce revenue models in the long term. +- Tyler inquired if there was a fee associated with using Data Lenses, and Davut explained that grants initially covered costs, but their goal is to provide the service to the community for free. + +## Action Items +- Jin Lim to explore the GitHub repository for the code used in the indexer and possibly contribute to front-end visualization. +- Max to create a new snapshot of the database image to reflect changes in GPU stats. +- Maxime Cyr to ensure the availability of the new snapshot for those wanting to update the database image themselves. +- Group to be available to assist Davut with any questions or support related to the analytics and front-end development. +- Davut to explore the Cloudmos GitHub repository and provide updates in the next meeting. + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Tyler Wright: All Welcome everybody. To during these monthly meeting around the analytics, the group gets together and talks about everything related to analytics on the Akash network pools, any solution. + +Tyler Wright: I know that there's been a fair amount of work that's gone into analytics, a couple of months, there's been a number of teams in the community that have talked about analytics and need for an indexer and open source indexer on the Akash network cloud and working on a indexer, for some time that they've been using and out of the last analytics. + +Tyler Wright: And as a result, the cloud most team is in the process of open urcing. a number of their tools. I know that the Web app has already been open source and a lot of their work that the max have done over the last couple of years is now open source. And again there's a path. + +Tyler Wright: To open sourcing. The indexer Jin. Who on this call, has been working closely with the cloud. Most team has been looking at the index for some time. So again, I just wanted to shout out to the work of Jin and the Max's, for all the work that they've done, I know there's some other folks in the community that have been talking about activating and archive node and again, leveraging and archived. No for a number of different use cases but again the focus for today's conversation is just to get a quick update on the work that the cloud most team has been doing around their indexer. And if there's any updates from Jin, we can get any updates from Jin. I know he's been doing a number of things. And then, we can open up for any general discussion after that. + +Tyler Wright: So I know one Max might be right back but I want to pass the floor to maybe Max see if he's still here to just give us an update on all the work that they've been doing around the indexer and making that available to the community. + +Maxime Cyr: Yeah sure let's start with Max B is away and so as you said we certain moving every posteries to the Cash Network GITHUB organization. And the indexer is already switched over and is open source. So if anyone wants to go look at the code and try it for themselves, they can. I'll post The link in the chat. + +Maxime Cyr: Max, are you back? + +Max: Yes. + +Maxime Cyr: All And you want to go ahead with the minute. 6 changes. We did. + +Max: Sure related to the elixir or just in general. + +Maxime Cyr: Changes with the indexer. I guess. + +Max: So yeah, we added the usdc and GPU tracking in the indexer. And just play or yesterday we released a new version of the dashboard that displays the usdc. and Akt spent separately and also the usdc values of the total of the two assets spent over time, which is a great chart to Have a very understanding of the amount of dollars or a dollar value spent over time. + +Max: And we were indexing the sandbox as well. right now, it's just + +Max: The sandbox is used to test some features that are new the minute. + +Max: What else? + +Max: I think that's mostly it. all revolves around the GPUs and… + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Max: the usdc mostly + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I know that again, the cloud Most team has been working on a number of things related to against supporting Akash JS. Cloud, most changes as it relates to the indexers or anything Max's on the horizon that you are thinking about, or going to be working on next. + +00:05:00 + +Max: Yeah, we're going to be adding more information relating, the GPUs, and it's mostly like it just counts or the amounts of GPUs and we want to add more stats related to the models that are being offered and used. It's a bit more complex than it might look. Yeah. That's one of the things that will work on in the near future. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Is there anything? + +Tyler Wright: Anyone have any questions about anything that is related to the indexer while again? The creators of it are here right now. + +Tyler Wright: I know that you might be on the road, so again you can put in chat if you can't talk, but I know that you've been working with indexer for some time. Is there anything from your work that you want to share with the group? + +Jin Lim: So I'm back in the States Fully online back from today, but I've been largely in active recently. I had to take care of some family issues, but otherwise I've been working on quarries to answer questions then, based off of the Cloud Moss. Database, but I was wondering if it was possible to connect to The Cloud, mass database instance, that your team is running Either Max, can allude to that. + +Max: Yeah, for We can. Talk about the details on the private DMS, but yeah, for sure. + +Jin Lim: Yeah, that's awesome. And then another thing is maybe just updating the database image that you guys have up on GitHub, just reflect the changes with your GPU stats because I'm pretty sure the one that's up right now is before those changes. So anyone would have to manually insert those columns. + +Maxime Cyr: Yeah, we'll create a new snapchat for people, wanting to when it themself. + +Jin Lim: And that's it for me. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. + +Max: So you've been able to query most of the stuff that you need, I assume or not. Okay. + +Jin Lim: Yeah, I've been having it. No issues. + +Max: There's something that you'd like to have added or + +Max: Or everything's fine. + +Jin Lim: Not at the moment, regarding the things, the PRD. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Thank you, Jin. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you Max for answering those questions as well. I want to leave some time for open discussion. Is there anything related to analytics the indexer? I know there's a PRD. The Jin's mentioned, Is there This is open discussion time. So does anyone have any questions? Comments? Concern At this time about anything analytics related. + +Davut Dayan: Hey, maybe just a few words introduce myself. I haven't been in this round before. first of all, it's cool that I just were able to hop in and listen to this discussions about indexing and the other topics. Yeah so maybe just for some context. My name is Davut and I'm like the co-founder of Data Lenses which is a public interactive analytics platform that we're currently rolling out for several chains. New customer ecosystem, it is so far based on the indexing, work of numia, The project itself is incubated at lumia, but the platform is quite agnostic to wherever the data is coming from. It is a pliable and it delivers some cool insights for communities for users. + +00:10:00 + +Davut Dayan: For providers depending on the app chain business model. And I think that's kind of the Focus point of our analytics topics that we really want to highlight the application specific data insights. And I came across the PRD in the GITHUB, which was about the analytics needs and the requirements just better analytics and the Akashi ecosystem. And that's basically why I hopped in. I texted you Tyler little message before and I just saw that you have this call. So yeah. Basically I was just wondering if they're + +Davut Dayan: From this period that was on GitHub. If there are any specific metrics and topics that are not yet publicly visible, some kind of insights that are missing which could help users communities providers to meet better grasp. What is going on chain? That's basically my question and I just wanted to have that open discussion if there any points where we might be able to support maybe with the last platform or with whatever else which goes into that analytics direction. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent double. Can you put some more information in the chat about the organization? + +Davut Dayan: So linear data is basically like… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Davut Dayan: where we are incubated so I'm working closely with the new near team. they're basically the M The guys you provide me with the endpoints for the platform. So, I'll just type in your data in here. I think that's Looking clear in a minute or xyzed us there H and all pages called data lenses thought. + +Davut Dayan: Sound, which means like that. + +Davut Dayan: Either access to the recognized as a neural here in the chat. Yes, it does. And so we were initially funded by the Osmosis Grants program for the MVP that we've loung Exactly, eight weeks ago and For them. For instance, it was important to have an inside about the revenue flow with the new photograph module with the swap fees with the transaction fees just to make the revenue tangible for the community. It was for the customer stop quite important to have an insight which illustrates the revenues associated with the new replicated security, or ICS business model. So these, + +Davut Dayan: the focus points that I mentioned, which are really interested in. So instead of generalizing the insights, we want to, see what is the specific use case of an app change and build the dashboard stand. On top of that business models, So That's maybe a little bit more of the context company. if you want to have a company standing behind it and the name of it, it would be like today in your data. We're not spinning off yet, but that's future plan. But we're working so close currently and that's, basically why you could think of one company for now and table ends as being one product of linear. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Tyler Wright: I think to answer your question and Jin and the Max's, feel free to jump in at any point. I think that PRD at this point is the most up-to-date thought process through these analytics monthly meetings that happen across a number of different themes related to the cost network. Obviously, this one being specific to analytics folks, from teams when they have availability, I know a number of people have day jobs and families but we come together both in discord. And during these monthly meetings to talk about specific subjects and how to push, again development of the specific topics forward with analytics. One of the most important things that's been an issue for a long time, is having an index. + +00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Has been important for that indexer to be open source as so that everybody in the community can use it historically. The Cloud most team which has done an amazing work over a long period of time. Has had some tools that they've been able that they built, but those tools weren't all open source. but some of them weren't and that was their decision to be made most recently the community and Overclock Labs came together. Basically make all the work to the cloud Most team has done over the last couple of years open source. So that's where you see the indexer that Max C mentioned at the top of this call. + +Tyler Wright: There are a number of other proposals that have gone out since then, from members of the community that have also wanted to see an open source indexer built, There's some discussions that you can kind of follow on Github for some other tools that are being built by. I think, so the community members, Super Fish, and there's another team that had a discussion out to build an indexer that had a number of different tools. So, again, a number of folks in the community are thinking about this index. Don't think about the analytics now that the Cloud most sition proposal went through. because the Maxi has already built something that works, as Jin is already mentioned, there's no issues with it. We've decided to move forward with the community as being able to use this tool and build off of it lever. + +Tyler Wright: That PRD. So I think as time moves forward there's going to be more concerted effort in this again analytics. During these monthly meetings to continue to push forward, some of the work in that PRD again with the most important being around an open source solution. that everybody in the community can use, So that's just a little bit of background on where we are and I think a lot of time has been spent on trying to figure out what solution we could leverage so that, we can find we can use and query historical data on the network. But now that's I believe. We're moving forward with the indexer from the cloud most team again. We'll just be building off of it by adding new features and new columns and new stats based on that PRD. + +Davut Dayan: It's cool to hear that on the indexing side, that it seems like there's a solution found and everything works fine. And I think it's great. And I wouldn't so much talk about the indexing side of the analytics part. But rather about the front end, and about user interfaces, and about the, interactivity that users could have to see what on the one side, we have all the data then in the back end, but to make it really tangible, we need some kind of good front and this is the part that I focusing on, and the part that I wanted to mention, which we could bring to the table. Also, as complementary piece for the analytics topic in general, and then there's one important piece in between. So if we have the wind Ind, + +Davut Dayan: In general and the Big Data sets wherever they are sitting, usually we're using some kind of specific web tool like endpoints in between which have that the queries built in to extract only the data that they actually need for the front end which also have some kind of individual or capabilities to customize the data that's coming from the endpoints or for instance, like varying, the data range, or the time range, or just selecting a few columns out of that loss of data set. So this is the part that + +Davut Dayan: We are currently working on the piece in between and the front end. And as mentioned initially, we're quite agnostic for where the data was you originally ingested and indexed? So yeah, that's totally fine, totally great. That a cache is moving forward with CLOUDMUS and that this works fine. I just were well wondering if for instance, I found the cloudmoss analytics over a few page Which actually is quite interesting. there was five minutes before. The meeting was I was just checking for what kind of work was done already to actually make that data available in the front end. I'm not sure if it's already based on the indexing work, or if you pull the data somewhere else. But this is basically. + +00:20:00 + +Davut Dayan: The part of the analytics topics that I would say where we could support with the data lenses project not so much the numia and indexing part I got that but more about the front end and the way to interact with the data and to visualize it so if there is a need or if there's some kind of room collaboration or something, I'm totally open for that and that's all I wanted to mention basically. + +Max: To answer your question. So yeah that we pulled the data from our custom API which pulls the data from the database that is indexed with our indexer. So Like Tyler said, all the code is open source. So if you want to look at it and see how it's + +Max: I would surrender and we use the next Gs and A bunch of react libraries and stuff so it's fairly easy to read. If you're a developer, but yeah, if you want to pull the data, all the instructions Are on the github repo. If you want to run your own indexer and you're on database, and all that data from there and render your own dashboards, and do your own queries and stuff. You can do all of that right now without Theoretically, the help of anyone who we're here to help of obviously,… + +Davut Dayan: Okay. Yeah. Okay. + +Max: but just the fact that it's open source, it's all available there. And so yeah, if you have questions about how to do stuff, kind of also ask us available + +Davut Dayan: That's great. That's awesome. which guitar repo would it be which is it in the analytics section, where could I find the actual code from the moment where an xjs on both? Hey, that's basically the part of interested in, or where I could just hop on and try to visualize the data a little bit with our libraries and play around. That would be the starting point if you have a link for me. you have one. Is that the one? + +Max: Yeah, I think it's a,… + +Davut Dayan: Yes, awesome. + +Max: the mono repo and There's the indexer the API that the Web front and… + +Davut Dayan: Okay. + +Max: it's all under some folders and from there, if … + +Davut Dayan: All right. + +Max: how a front end works, I believe you do and dig in and look at the components and stuff. + +Davut Dayan: That sounds great Alright great, thank you for the hint, with the repo. And yeah that's cool to hear. I'll have a look and see if we can set up something and how it runs and how it looks. And maybe next month, I'll have a little update, how we were able to visualize the data if we achieve to do. So, + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I would think that would be a great next step if you want. I was thinking about if you had an example that you could show of kind of that front end visualization. That would also be great. But maybe you can again just walk us through at a future meeting or in discord share links so that we could take a look at what you're thinking about. + +Davut Dayan: Yeah, yeah, you can basically click on the link. It's the last one in the chat. data lenses,… + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. + +Davut Dayan: but zone and that's The work of the past. Weeks for US. Nurses and for the cosmos up with initially a created set of insights and depending on what the community wants which is adding more and more insights and just widgets so we call them Yeah, that's basically how it could look like. + +Max: That's pretty neat, that I lenses. + +Max: Yeah, great job. + +Davut Dayan: Thanks. + +00:25:00 + +Davut Dayan: Alright, so from my side was cool to get to know y'all to better understand what,… + +Tyler Wright: Possibly. + +Davut Dayan: what this group is for, to send other takes group, particularly, and how you progress, how you work together, the open source, ethos as became quite apparent to me, too. So yeah. It's cool to see that and I'm looking forward to next month to Getting for you. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, absolutely. Again I was just gonna say I'm happy that you joined and feel free to ask any questions over the next month. And again Olympics, if you have any questions I know that the Max is Jin and other folks can help you if you have any questions and then we would love for you to continue to join meetings. + +Tyler Wright: Is there just for context,… + +Davut Dayan: Awesome. + +Tyler Wright: is there a fee associated with using data lens? + +Davut Dayan: The brand programs that we applied basically pay for the costs that we have. Because for these two dashboards obviously at the end indexing and building the actual widgets that was some work that had to be done so they paid for that but it's just kind of a one-time payment. So we subsidized the maintenance and whatever we'll keep it running as it is version. That is there now which the grand programs paid for both the atomic accelerator and those musgrant program, this will be available forever for free for the community. Yeah and we try to + +Davut Dayan: with the other revenues that we have at numia, we try to pay for all the costs mostly, but it's always valuable if there's some kind of funding or some kind of community grand which helps to initially, set it up. And then for the maintenance, we try to get the money from somewhere else. It's can change at a certain point and to have 40 bigger vision or long term vision for lenses, it would be cool if it becomes really sophisticated. + +Davut Dayan: Fix tool which in other ecosystems would be called something like Nanson or anyone like Archam intelligence where you really have that kind of intelligence marketplace. And then at that point when you can set custom alerts for specific movements or specific wallets, I would say more to trader thing than we could imagine to charge for that and whatever business model later on. But for now the plan is basically just to expand in the ecosystem to have a dashboard for most of the larger app chains and the cosmos. So that when a user visits the page, he really can access intelligence, insights information of all the chains and so far we try to Keep the costs slow and can get some grants and support, basically from the community pools. + +Tyler Wright: Without me having to do too much searching and you tell me how much we got from osmosis + +Davut Dayan: Yeah, from osmosis for the MVP, they paid 30,000 US dollars. And from the customer stop, we got 40,000. + +Tyler Wright: Awesome. + +Davut Dayan: Yes. + +Davut Dayan: Right. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, that's the only questions I had again. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to anybody on this call. I see another people's champ Alani here. Did anyone else have any questions about anything analytics related before we jump off? + +Tyler Wright: If not got to have you back stateside again? We'll talk in between meetings and this again analytics discord channel, but it's great discussion. Thank you for the updates Max's David thank you for joining. I hope I'm not mispronounce your name but again everyone have a great rest of the day and we'll talk. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. All. + +Davut Dayan: Thank you. See you guys. + +Meeting ended after 00:29:48 👋 + diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/004-2023-05-9.md b/sig-community/meetings/004-2023-05-9.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..eecf60c2 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/004-2023-05-9.md @@ -0,0 +1,310 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #4 + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, May 09, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://rfjancfiutbtyzyeejxwwqjx7blgeiqqlnjzcw7soszajp7nx7ra.arweave.net/iVIGiKikwzxnBCJva0E3-FZiIhBbU5Fb8nSyBL_tv-I) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) +- +# Agenda +- Working group updates, with a focus on wg-2023-events and wg-Akash-hackathons +- Overview and discussion of the community proposal live on GitHub +- Updates and feedback on note-taking efforts for various calls and meetings + +## Participants +- Adam Wozney +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- George Pro +- Joao Luna +- Julius Haus +- Robert Del Rey +- Russell From +- Scott Hewitson +- cheechyo +- Damir Simpovic +- Denis Lelic +- Pavlo Dereniuk +- Rodrigo Rochin +- Tyler Wright + + + +## Meeting Notes + +### Note-taking efforts for various calls and meetings. +- Adam Wozney emphasized the importance of note-taking during calls to provide quick reviews of topics and talking points discussed in the meetings. +- Note-takers are individuals actively participating in calls, taking notes, and posting them on the website for easy access by others in the community. +- Tyler Wright, responsible for coordinating note-taking efforts, expressed satisfaction with the current progress, thanking George and other community members for their consistent contributions. +- He suggested that any action items discussed between meetings be posted on Discord to ensure they are tracked and added to the agenda for future meetings. +- Tyler shared his efforts to optimize Readme files for each SIG, making it easier for people to track meeting schedules without having to download entire calendars. +- The goal is for all notes across SIGs and working groups to be community-owned as the community grows. + +### Discussion of the community proposal live on GitHub. +- Adam introduced the topic of the community proposal currently live on GitHub. +- The proposal involves funding for Akash vanguards, Akash Insiders, and specific bounty programs to support community development. +- The proposal was posted two to three weeks ago and is intended for funding throughout the rest of the year as part of the insiders or vanguard's program. +- Adam urged community members to visit the provided [link](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/165) in the chat, share their thoughts, and provide feedback, whether positive or negative. +- Over the next few weeks, the proposal will be updated based on feedback and eventually pushed out for a vote. + +### Working groups(wgs) updates, with a focus on wg-events and wg-Akash-Hackathon. +- - #### wg-Akash-hackathon Updates. +- The HACKATHON proposal has been approved, and roles like Community Manager and Marketing Manager have been selected to support it. +- Subsequent discussion will involve timelines, next steps, and action items for the HACKATHON. +- Adam noted that selecting the tracks is crucial before setting a firm launch date for the HACKATHON. +- Adam mentioned that initially, there were three support roles, but he will handle the HACKATHON manager role, saving budget. The unused budget will be reallocated to add one more Community Manager and Marketing Managers. +- Adam invited those interested in the HACKATHON to join the HACKATHON Discord channel on the Akash Discord server. + +- - #### wg-Events-2023 Updates. +- A proposal for 2023 events was put together to secure funding from the community pool for a presence at important events throughout the year. +- The proposal is split into quarters, with the current request for Q2 events and another for Q3 events to be submitted shortly. +- Adam stressed the need for community members to represent Akash at these events by speaking on stage. +- Adam shared a Community Event Participation [form](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSca0NL_KdebSUOgoS5MYSWofp1R2B_2pXKOKILUKHcBeig3pw/viewform) for interested individuals to apply and outlined the criteria for selection. +- Adam emphasized that the selected representatives would have their expenses covered to attend these valuable events. +- Adam Wozney continued discussing the roles required for event representation, which included Event Manager, Speaker, BD Partnerships, and Community Representative. + +- - #### Discussion on wg-Events-2023 Update. +- Joao Luna emphasized the importance of representing Akash at events and shared his experience of the positive impact events can have. +- Rodrigo Rochin expressed his interest in attending events but not speaking on stage. He mentioned he would be comfortable setting up booths or helping out at booths. +- Damir Simpovic expressed his willingness to help but was unsure if his non-developer background was suitable for the events. +- Adam outlined how the application process would work and expressed that even just attending and wearing an Akash T-shirt could be valuable. +- Adam emphasized that this initiative is an experiment to refine the process for future events. +- Adam emphasized the importance of community members attending events to network, find new members, and contribute meaningfully to the project. +- Adam encouraged community members to go ahead and apply for the Paris events (ETHCC, AwesomeWasm, osmocon) even if they weren't sure if they could contribute meaningfully. + +## Action Items +- Tyler to optimize Readme files for each SIG for easy meeting schedule access. +- Adam to review and select attendees for events. +- Community members to provide feedback and comments on the community proposal on GitHub. +- Adam to continue monitoring and updating the [proposal](https://docs.google.com/document/d/16sjm4WpXfp4zZTQMJBKHQu3ySMQvENLoL9GzbmnJlfc/edit) based on feedback. +- Akash Insiders interested in representing Akash at events should fill out the application form. + + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Adam Wozney: Cool. So welcome everyone. To today's community special interest group call. This is part of our monthly calls that we have. I have a handful of updates to cover today. But before we get into any of those things, I wanted to see if there is any agenda items folks wanted to cover as a part of our agenda today. The things that I'll be covering are I'm gonna give some working group updates. The biggest part of that is probably events which I think some of you should be excited about because it's opportunity for you actually go to some of these events and represent Akash. So we'll spend probably most of our time talking about that. I want to talk a briefly about the community proposal, that is live on Github up for feedback and review. + +Adam Wozney: And then I wanted, Oh, Tyler's here, perfect. And I wanted to see if Tyler had any very brief note-taking updates as you guys all know. There's a handful of special interest group calls working group calls and I just wanted to see if there is any support needed. In terms of note taking, I think we've had a couple folks that have been supportive and taking notes and all these calls. What I just wanted to make sure that we're all up to speed on those things. So those are kind of the big three things I wanted to cover today. But any other agenda items or things people wanted to discuss on today's community special interest group call? + +Adam Wozney: All right, Cool. + +Adam Wozney: Oh, Tyler could go first, great. So, yeah. So, very quickly as a refresher for folks that might be new to this call or haven't been one in for a while. Basically, the purpose of these calls are to discuss support and manage akash community initiatives, talking about all the different ways that community members are contributing to akash and finding ways for all of us to support one another and helping Akash become the de facto cloud compute resource of Web 3. So I mentioned the rough agenda, but I wanted to maybe kick it off because it sounds like Tyler has to leave. I wanted to see if there is any updates or any support needed in terms of note-taking. So as I mentioned, there's what like maybe 15 or so of these working group, special interest group calls that take place. A lot of times they happen when people can't be around because it's just different time zones. So the idea behind this is besides just recording these videos taking + +Adam Wozney: Notes. So people can quickly kind of add a glance review. Some of the topic topics and talking points of these, these calls that are taking place. So, um, note takers are folks that are actually in these calls taking notes and then putting them on our website for folks to quickly review. We've had folks that have been supportive but I haven't really gotten any pushback or feedback on note. Taking is successful or if there needs any updates to it. So I thought we could maybe very quickly kind of see if there is any kind of quick updates from Tyler who's been helping kind of support all the note takers and and all that. So Tyler any note taking updates + +Tyler Wright: Um I think the note taking is gone very well thus far. I wanted I do want to give a shout out to George envy. There's some other members of the community that have volunteered and consistently show up to meetings and basically own the notes over time. I would like for all the notes to be across all the six and working groups to be community owned, obviously like Overclock is just making sure that it's managed as we get off the ground. But hopefully as it can two community continues to grow, you know, there's other opportunities for folks to take notes again. I, I just want to shout out, George again and others who do a great job. One thing I do want to call out, is if anybody has any action items that they want to, + +Tyler Wright: Talk about between meetings, I would just ask that you throw those in discord because I can or whoever is in, no taker for that meeting can track those things and add them to the agenda and make sure that they're talked about. I know there's some conversation that happened between meetings, and then sometimes it gets lost because folks aren't actively saying like, Hey, I want to talk about this, as the next SIG meeting, which is a great opportunity, obviously like typing and chatting on discord is great, but these calls are really for, you know, voice to voice and kind of making decisions in a more timely fashion. But all in all things have been going. Well, again, I would ask that if anybody here is like recording or transcribing. And this goes for future meetings, whether it's crew three or anything else, just make sure to hit the transcribe button because I have had to again. Shout out George again, take the video and like, reverse transcribe it because we always haven't had to transcript. So George your champ for that one. Um, but again, if anybody wants to take notes, feel free, + +Tyler Wright: Our current notetakers have done a great job of like saying, Hey I can't make this meeting. Can you cover for me? And that's all I need and I appreciate that. I'll do is I'll take the notes for that meeting, like, in real time and then the note taker can edit them and optimize them based upon the video. So, again, I'm very happy with where things are right now. I would just if anybody else wants to get involved, It's like a quick and easy way to get involved with the six and working groups and be like a leader, a secretary inside those groups. So again, if anybody wants to support Please. + +00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: I'm also trying to sorry. + +Adam Wozney: Cool. Thank you, Tyler. + +Tyler Wright: I'm also trying to optimize the Readme's so that I know that some folks in the past that don't want to download the entire calendar to their calendar or be like, I only want to go to SIG community. I've been trying to make it so that you can track every meeting inside of every readme for every SIG. So you don't have to like, add a calendar and you just know when future meeting are. So if anybody has any more thoughts about how to optimize it, so people don't miss meetings and they know where things are, please let me know. + +Adam Wozney: Cool, thank you so much. Tyler, any questions on anything Tyler to discussed or on note taking in general? + +Adam Wozney: You know, all right, cool. So I'm going to switch up the order of the agenda. I want to spend the most on working group updates, but the next thing I want to chat about quickly was the community proposal that is live in Github right now. I just put a link in the chat. Basically, this is a community proposal for funding the Akash vanguards, a caution ciders, and specific bounty programs, as a part of support for community development. + +Adam Wozney: I put this up this proposal up about two or three weeks ago, planning on keeping it up there a little bit longer because this is kind of a larger initiative for funding throughout the rest of the year for support within the community as a part of the insiders or vanguard's program. If you have any questions about that proposal you have any feedback on it go and put your feedback in that discussion going on and github right now. There's no timeline on when this proposal will go live. So I'm trying to keep it open for as long as possible for community members to leave their feedback and thoughts so that way we can get it really dialed in. So once it is up live for a proposal, there will be no issues in terms of the request that's being put out there. So go check out that link. I just put in the chat, leave your feedback, thoughts notes, good or bad. And then over the next few weeks, we'll update that proposal where it makes sense and push it out there for a vote. + +Adam Wozney: So any questions on the community proposal? Before we get into working group updates, which is I think it'll take maybe a majority of the time today here. + +Adam Wozney: Cool. All right. So there's really two working group, working group updates or conversations. I want to have today, they're around previous funding proposals for our HACKATHON and for 2023 akash events. So the first one is on the HACKATHON, so updates for the hack and this is basically something for that. People that aren't familiar with is something that we put up for governance about a month or two ago. And the idea is for us to put together our first ever Akash community-owned, HACKATHON focused on building and contributing things to the network that makes it easier for other people to engage or develop things for Akash or on top of Akash. + +Adam Wozney: Um, in terms of where we're at right now with the HACKATHON proposal has been approved, so we have budget for it now, we're to the point where we're selecting roles, which yesterday we had a HACKATHON working group call, which you guys can review, which should be on GITHUB soon. Where we selected individuals to have supportive roles as a part of this HACKATHON, and those two roles are Community Manager. So, helping set up events workshops as a part of the HACKATHON and also providing support inside of a, yet to be launched discord, channel, specifically for HACKATHON, participants, and marketing manager. And that role is going to be focused on promotion into other communities of the HACKATHON, and then potentially finding other cosmos projects to have sponsored tracks for people to build things that connect Akash to those other cosmos projects. + +Adam Wozney: So we've selected, those individuals to do. Those roles tomorrow is going to be our first call with those individuals to start talking about next steps in preparation for the HACKATHON. + +Adam Wozney: Tomorrow, I'm also going to be we're also going to be discussing timeline. I put together a rough kind of timeline for when this will all go live for anyone who's participated in hackathons before either organizing or just as a attendee. Yeah. You probably know there's a lot of upfront work that goes into building out these hackathons from marketing materials to HACKATHON tools to promotion to all the different kind of tracks prizes. There's a lot of stuff that kind of goes into this. So tomorrow, we're going to be sitting down with the community support rules and discussing timelines, and some of the next steps and action items for the HACKATHON. The next Working Group call will probably be next week or early the following week. And that working group call again is open to anyone inside of the community to join. And I think the main focus of that working group call will be on hackath. + +00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: Tracks. So discussing, what are the things that we want to put bounties and prizes on for individuals to build to make Akash that much better of a place to kind of develop their projects on. So that'll be a very important one. Because once those hackathons on tracks are decided, that's kind of the big print stuff that needs to be discovered before, we can actually start working on a very hard and fast timeline to launch this HACKATHON. So those are the big two kind of updates in terms of next calls that are gonna be taking place. So tomorrow will be called just for the folks that have been selected to be supportive roles and then next week or the week after early the week after we'll have a call on HACKATHON tracks where we're gonna invite the community to come and say We think that these you know, XYZ things are what we want people to build because it'll make my life as a developer. Or is it just a general community matter that much better being a part of the Akashi Ecos? + +Adam Wozney: Them. So that's kind of where the HACKATHON lies right now. Oh, last thing I was gonna say, so initially in the proposal we had two roles, two support roles as a part of the HACKATHON, one is actually three roles. Technically one is like a event kind of or the HACKATHON manager which I'll be taking care of. And then two other roles are community manager and marketing manager because I'm gonna be actually managing the HACKATHON from kind of the leadership aspect and kind of making sure the trains are running on time because I've done plenty of hackathons in the past. We don't need to take the budget that was for that role to me, because I'm already working at Overclock lab, so I don't need to do that. So we're putting that. And we're also going to be putting a HACKATHON tool budget towards bringing on to additional roles. So, it'll be two community managers and two marketing managers, which I think is great. We're still going to be under budget because the HACKATHON tool budget that we requested isn't gonna be needed at all, because we're gonna use door hacks, and they're for free. + +Adam Wozney: We can use their platform for free for this for people submitting projects. So we're putting that budget towards adding two new roles, so it'll be two community managers, two marketing managers. And I think that's just gonna be better because we'll be able to do a lot more with more people. So we should have more updates as things progress. If you're interested in learning more about the HACKATHON you have ideas or feedback or comments, head over to the HACKATHON discord channel inside of the cash discord and we'll get you guys involved. So any general questions about the HACKATHON before I move on to my most important kind of agenda item today, 2023 Akash events. + +Adam Wozney: No cool cool. So the last thing I want to discuss and this is a big one for folks on this call are events. So similarly to the HACKATHON proposal that we put out there, we put together a rough 2023 akash events proposal and basically the idea behind this proposal was to get funding from the community pool to have a cost presence at significant events of importance throughout the calendar year. The first proposal that we put out was specifically for the total budget, but we're all we're only requesting budget for Q2 events. + +Adam Wozney: The next upcoming events and proposal that we're gonna put out is for Q3. So there will be a updated request for funding from the community pool for Q3 as a part of that overall budget proposal. That's been proposed and approved. So within the next week or two you can look forward to seeing a new governance proposal going live for a vote for Q3 events. I don't see that proposal not passing because it should be under budget and aligned with what already has been approved. As a part of our signaling and our overall governance proposal and Q2 + +Adam Wozney: So, because of that, I've already started to work on finding opportunities at some of these upcoming Q3 events, the most priority, one is about two months away, it's going to be a series of events that are happening in Paris and in Berlin, July 11th, through July 25th. So about a week, and a half two weeks worth of activities in those cities. Paris in Berlin, will kind of be the hub of all crypto event culture, this July and there's a handful of events that are taking place both cosmos ethereum and beyond. So, right now I'm currently at the stage of understanding what we can do in terms of sponsorship for those individual events. + +00:15:00 + +Adam Wozney: We have a small 10K sponsorship, a lot of to those activities. So I've connected with a handful of the events that are taking place there, the event to organizers, and I'm trying to find ways to plug a cache in to speaking opportunities panel opportunities, moderating panel events that are taking place at these events. And in order to do that, we need to have people that are comfortable getting up on stage from the community. So, folks, in this call, getting up on stage and talking about akash in different talking about a caution different ways, both technical and non-technical. So to run this down. + +Adam Wozney: So, for folks on this call are trying to figure out like what it makes sense for me to kind of potentially be at this these events and represent Akash over this time period. The way I'm kind of breaking it down. Is right now we have about six events that are taking place in those cities over that week and a half long period. There is Adam Berlin which is taking place as being put on by the folks from Cosmo verse. There's awesome wasm which is being put on by confio with support from the Cosmos hub, the SHIFAI which is a women's educational crypto community + +Adam Wozney: There's ECC, which is essentially the East Denver If you guys are familiar with East Denver of Europe, it's a community organized ethereum conference and HACKATHON there's osmocon which is gonna be put on by osmosis. It'll be the second one they're doing. And then the final leg of this long journey is Nebular Summit, which is a Cosmo specific conference focused on technical aspects of Cosmos. + +Adam Wozney: Um, each of those events I'm trying to get three opportunities for Akash to be involved in either through sponsorship or just raising. Her hand saying We want to get involved. One is moderating a panel. One is participating in a panel and one is giving some form of a talk. That talk could be a nakash demo, it could be just a high level. What is cloud doing within the Web 3 space? It could be a lightning. Talk could be five to 15 to 20 minutes, who knows? So I'm working with all those different organizers to plug in a cache. Having a cost representation at those events. + +Adam Wozney: After speaking with folks at Overclock Labs, we really want folks from the community to represent Akash at these upcoming events, which means we need folks on this call and people watching this call to raise their hands saying that they want to get involved in these activities. So the way that's working right now and I think a majority of you folks in this call have already seen this or maybe been interested in trying to figure out how to get involved in these events is through this community support form, which I just put in the chat. So this community support form. Basically it is lists out the prerequisites and requirements and kind of filters. Of course, selecting who from the community can go and represent akash and attend these events, all expenses paid to represent Akash at these events. + +Adam Wozney: So within this, it kind of gives you the framework for how people will be selected the requirements. The different roles that are listed as a part of these events and how much people will get paid in terms of support for attending these events mostly paid through and I don't say paid as in like you're gonna get like an hourly wage your salary for doing these things but it's basically an all expenses, paid trip to represent akash and go to these different activities, very important events that the community has deemed value valuable to have a cost to have representation at + +Adam Wozney: Um In order to get involved in this, we put together a very simple application form that asks like simple questions like What's your name where you located are you in a caution Cider? Are you technical non-technical, have you participated in an event before all these kind of things that we need the community to kind of like, help decide whether or not folks would make sense for them to go to these particular activities. + +00:20:00 + +Adam Wozney: So I'm currently in talks with all of these different events, trying to plug in ways for cost to get involved, but I need to know who from the community wants to go to these events. Have their their flights and hotels and food and travel costs, totally covered by the the budget. That's been approved and no understanding who exactly will be the folks that can go to these events. And then I can plug them in to these particular activations at these events. + +Adam Wozney: So this is the week that I'm working on that, I'm hoping to get this wrapped up by the end of the week. This form has been live for a couple weeks now. So I'm gonna be promoting this today. Probably tomorrow, and then hopefully by Thursday or Friday, I will be able to look through all these different applications, put in the put into the community, and the Events Working Group discord channels. With my recommendations on who should go. And then, once we lock in those individuals, it's gonna be working with the event organizers, to plug them into those different activities for folks, to go and represent Akash as really a core contributor to the network. Some people fill out the form already. Thank you to those who have, but if you are interested in going to Berlin, going to Paris, representing Akash getting involved in some of these activities, fill out that form. And that because that's the first leg of the journey, + +Adam Wozney: Um, currently right now, there's I think five or six people that have applied to go to different events. Some are upcoming that aren't even until this fall or this winter, but the priority events right now are happening in Berlin and in Paris, because that's two months away. And for anyone, that's organized events. Before the more time, we have to kind of plan out what our activities will be there. The more time we'll actually have to get involved and contribute to the different activities that are happening at these these these community events so That's kind of where we're at. So, really the action items before I open up to any, any questions we have, as + +Adam Wozney: actually items is go to that form that I shared in this in the chat or head over to the discord. Events, Working group channel, ask your questions in there, go fill out that form because over the next couple days, I'll be sharing with the community different folks that have applied to attend. These events that are happening in July in Berlin and Paris. And then from there, we'll hopefully make a decision by the end of the week. Because I need to know who actually is able and interested in going and representing Akash at these at these events. So any questions and that's really the big things for the day, the agenda for today, but I want to see if there is any questions in regards to getting involved in these upcoming events in July and it looks like Mr. Luna's, the first one up. + +Joao Luna: Yeah. Hi regarding these events in July. What, how heavy will be? The Overclock Club presence there? I think, at least speaking from me, if I was like, chosen for talk for as a speaker or something, I would feel like not safer, but more comfortable to have like presents heavier presence of a cash there of Overclock labs there. I think it makes sense like and of the Creators Bootstrappers of all this. I think it's expected for you to have, like, a heavy presence there, but I'm just wondering how heavy will that presents? + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. + +Joao Luna: Be? If, if from yours from Overclock slab Overclock lab side will more people will go that are not like not from the community budget, but from overclock's budget will like so + +Adam Wozney: Totally so right now. So I spoke with folks from Overclock yesterday and I started kind of planting the seeds of interest for folks from Overclock to attend. And there are other priority items that are on most everyone at overclock's, plates that they want to focus their attention on namely GPU test nets updates to the Akash console, a handful of other items. So because of that right now, I would be the only one going and attending alongside the community members which I think can actually be pretty interesting because it's a, we are really it. Really showcases, like what we're trying to do with the events budget, we want community members to go and… + +Joao Luna: Yeah. From yeah. That makes sense. + +Adam Wozney: represent like Akash contributors and or supportive elements of what we're building at Akash. So right now it would be me my role there. Besides kind of sherpa in all the different activities that we can get involved in myself and community members at not only the main events that I mentioned. But there's always side events that happen in the peripheral of these activities and these different cities. So plugging into those activities as well. so right now, it would be, you know, + +00:25:00 + +Adam Wozney: Let's say you Mr. Luna, it's like you say, you want to go people in the community agree. I plug you into a panel event at Osmo, Con, maybe a five minute lightning talk at awesome Wazum. And then, from there, now that I know that you're going, I find side events inside activities that we can either just to go to attend and represent Akash and introduce ourselves or even plug into other speaking opportunities panels, moderating panels demos, whatever that might be. Um, I can't do that. Second part like the side events until I know who's gonna be attending the main stuff. + +Joao Luna: Mm-hmm. + +Adam Wozney: So that's kind of why it's a priority to figure out who from the community would like to go and represent Akash and and get involved in these activities. So so right now, there's four roles that are potentially open as a part of this, as a part of this event Manager, role speaker, BD partnerships, kind of role and a community representative. + +Adam Wozney: Um, I'm for seeing the need for three people total. I see the need of an event manager, which probably would be me at the end of the day. I'm the most involved in like what's going on and all these activities a speaker that's probably the priority one and then tertiary, if we can find a third person to be a community representative, they would be somebody that would go and potentially co-host a meet up with myself that I could put on or with other organizers through these side events. Also participate in some of the activities that are taking place. I want to host some Twitter spaces live from these events and that's something that they would help kind of form and organize. So perfect case scenario it would be myself a speaker and a community rep to help with like all the different activities that are taking place at these events bare bones. It would be myself and a speaker going to represent akash at all these different activities that are taking place over the course of that week. + +Adam Wozney: Off in Berlin and Paris. So that's kind of how it's being figured out right now. + +Joao Luna: Okay. I was just wondering as well. Like, so the BD person partnerships, it's kind of a key person and a very, very specific role. That seems kind of hard to find. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. + +Joao Luna: I was just wondering like has to be someone within the in the inside. + +Adam Wozney: Within the community. I yeah. + +Joao Luna: There's like the the closer community can be a little bit hard to find, maybe some some key player on like on the whole ecosystem. Yeah, sounds like a hard world to find. If you had any any applications for such a role? + +Adam Wozney: I know, I, I agree. I so, so the um, I don't know, I haven't looked, I don't think so. I think most the applications are coming in as speaker or community representative, which makes sense. My goal is to find individuals within the community that have kind of those sales partnerships business development shops and start working with them more frequently. It's more of a visionary role than it is that things that I'll find from within the community. + +Adam Wozney: At the end of the day, I think in the short term if anyone, what would represent that role? It'd probably be someone from Overclock Labs, either boss who you guys know, potentially Scott Carruthers, who heads up support, it'd be those individuals, but that probably won't happen until fall or winter events figuring that out. So for these role for upcoming in July, I foresee either three people from Akash representing or two people, and those roles would either be event manager, which should be myself, BD or sorry speaker, or potentially community representative. + +Adam Wozney: Um, it could turn out depending on applications that come in and people how they want to get involved and potentially represent akash of these things. That would just be myself and a community rep which is totally fine. We're trying to keep things somewhat of a lightweight presence, but we need to have a presence of these events because otherwise people in the community will wonder what what it cost is doing. And there's so much added benefit to attending these events besides just going and representing you connect with individuals, there's partnership opportunities that come up. There's new community members that want to join your community. There's relationships that are developed. So there's a lot of benefit from attending events that you really can't quantify in like hard data. Besides just the activities that we'll be doing there. So go ahead, Mr. Luna + +Joao Luna: Yeah. And that's like to add like we don't actually, we underestimate how great it is, what we are kind of building here. So you kind of get like, Okay, we are building something really cool like I'll talk from a technical perspective, like, at kubecon. Everyone went like, they stopped everything in wanted to listen, they they saved, they bookmark, the website, they called colleagues. Just to heroes to hear me. Talk about like the decentralized cloud. What we do it, how we use Kubernetes to, like, to what we do. So, and it's at those conferences, when you talk people to people face to face that, you really understand, like, okay, But we are building is really cool, people really like it and I think that's important. + +00:30:00 + +Adam Wozney: Yep. + +Joao Luna: Even if it's like one person at like a big conference all alone, it can still work out as it worked with Kubecon. + +Adam Wozney: Yep, I completely agree. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah, I 100% agree with that. There's there's a lot of intangible benefits to representing an organization at these events that you really can't quantify. It's not as simple as you host. An event people attend it and people you know maybe deploy or start using your product. There's all these like peripheral things that happen around events that you have to kind of like show and not are yet to tell and not show if that makes sense. Um so right now, if I look I just opened up the where is it? I just opened up the responses. and I'm looking at events that people have applied to And right now, it looks like there's the there's two two applications for ECC in Paris and awesome wasm. + +Adam Wozney: the way I'm actually thinking about this is, if somebody applies to one particular event, say just osmocon I want to see if they can actually go to all the events because the idea of saying four people, apply for four different events happening over that, that we can have long period and then four different people coming in and going doesn't make sense to me. It's gonna cost more to me harder to manage the logistics. It's just gonna be more difficult. So really what I want to do is once people apply for these, these particular roles, like say someone applies to just osmocon. I would reach out to them and say, Are you willing to do all of the events over this week and a half long period and represent Akash at all of these events and if no then that kind of eliminates them from the competition? + +Adam Wozney: It all. It's really going to come down to what applications come in for folks that want to represent akash and then reviewing it and then reaching out to individuals saying Like are you interested in going to these events and doing the entire gamut from the 11th really or the 10th or 11th until the 25th of July both in Berlin and Paris? + +Adam Wozney: So, there's even logistics involved, there's gonna be figuring out, like, what people can actually support and do if push comes to shove and only one person's available for maybe two of the events and the other folks that have applied to attend, just don't add up. Then that one person would come out for those two events and then they'd leave and that'd be it. So it really just comes down to what we see in terms of people applying for the role. And right now, it looks like only a couple people have applied. So I don't know if people aren't interested in going to represent Akash. I don't know. People are don't like the idea that they're getting a free trip to go. To go to these events. + +Joao Luna: And it's it's kind of a responsibility,… + +Adam Wozney: I'm actually + +Joao Luna: right? It's kind of representing a whole community,… + +Adam Wozney: It is. + +Joao Luna: you either have to speak. So I kind of understand like people that don't really jump straight away. + +Adam Wozney: Don't jump into it. I yeah, I agree. I think, I think to if people aren't comfortable with like talks or getting up on stage and giving a demo or being on a panel, I think if I'm able to go up and like moderate events and having some community people in the background, where, after I moderate say, if you have technical questions of Akash, you'll meet my colleague over there, Robert or go meet my my colleague over there from the community Damir. Um, you know, they're working on different aspects of a caution they can kind of help answer some questions you might have. So even having that as a support system for me, getting up on stage and, you know, moderating a panel or even giving a Web 3 community building workshop, I think could be beneficial. + +Adam Wozney: So like the lowest hanging like simplest way for us to do this is basically having myself and one of their person. But if enough people apply and they want to represent a caution some shape and fashion, I think having three people go would be perfect. I don't think we're gonna have four people, there's no need and that's great because we can take that extra budget and put it towards the community pool for future events and getting plugged into different things. So, Who is first? Let's go Rodrigo. + +00:35:00 + +Rodrigo Rochin: Hey guys, so I would be interested in going to some of these events, but not speaking of stage with every some events that would set up boots, or Something I would I would feel comfortable receiving people or helping out at Booth but not thinking of stage. + +Adam Wozney: Totally. Yeah, totally, so for anyone who was actually participate in expo booths or tables at events, you probably know that that is a role that you need to have a large contingency of members from that project to support. Best example I can give you is that consensus for example in Austin. So I've done this numerous times and I've learned from my mistakes, but that way I'll also just participated from different roles I've had in the past, but when you actually set up an expo booth, you unless you have other people that are there to support it, you need to be at that booth from doors open. At 8 am until Doris close at 6 pm and it's non-stop people coming up asking questions about your project. + +Adam Wozney: So having a contingency of members from your project to be there in order to have different times of day that they're on site. So basically having 10 people and having those 10 people say the I'll take the morning shift, I'll take the afternoon shift, I'll take the evening shift so it's basically like four hours since Is the best way to do it. Otherwise you will burn out you because you're getting hundreds of people coming up to you consistently. Just talking talking and it's it's awesome but over the course of a really a 10 hour day you unless you have people that you can leave. + +Rodrigo Rochin: You know. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. And you don't want to leave the table. Empty. It doesn't look good. So you kind of need a lot of people to do it. So Expo, tables are really at this stage of where we are out of the question. But I still think having community members go and representing akash and going to networking events. Introducing themselves to different community members trying to find. And I think the real goal of this is trying to find new community members to include in the insiders program. Our vanguards program getting involved in our hackathons other future events diving into our telegram. Our discord is really beneficial overall. + +Adam Wozney: So so yeah, so I mean for me it's really just getting more applications in there for anyone that wants to contribute in any way. So people just want to be a community representative applies. A community representative, and we can figure it out if someone feels comfortable with talking on stage or being on a panel event, which is actually much easier than talking by yourself because you just have other people that are kind of up there chatting with you, it's a lot easier apply for for that type of opportunity. So yeah, so I'm really gonna go off of what people put into the application form, and for people that apply, they're going to be considered for people that don't apply. They're basically out of the runnings. So that's kind of how I'm thinking about it right now. + +Adam Wozney: Cool. and let me for folks that don't have it, let me This is the application form. I'll put it in here for everyone's in the call. Give me or go ahead. + +Damir Simpovic: Hi sorry, I'm out so but I was listening and yeah, I not sure if I mean, I'll help you, I'll gladly help you with whatever you need if you need my help. + +Damir Simpovic: But I wasn't sure if I could actually conceive it because I'm not a developer and you know, I'm more like a system engineer. So Not sure if I can actually help you. So that's why I was keeping silent. So anyway, yeah, That's… + +Adam Wozney: I so yeah,… + +Damir Simpovic: what I had to say. + +Adam Wozney: I and I think and thank you. I think there's a handful of folks probably either watching this call, or in the call right now that are like I would love to go but I just don't know if there's a way for me to contribute meaningfully. I would suggest going into the application form and filling it out with all the different things. So and if you actually go and review the application form, the questions are pretty straightforward and has put a link in the chat. There's, which events are you applying to attend? Like, which ones are you interested in going to? What role would you kind of like to have at this event? And to catch all roll is really community representative. Asks what city or country you live in that just helps with cost. Keeping costs down the closer audio event, the cheaper, it'll be for travel. Whether or not you're in a caution cider. And that's one of the requirements you have to be in a caution cider to be to be invited to go to these events. + +Adam Wozney: And then there's the one question Tell the community. Why you believe you'd be a good fit for participating in this event and this is basically where you can say. Like I think I could help out here These are things that I'm interested in. I'm not a speaker but you know, I do have some caution understanding you just kind of fill in the blank for how you'd like to potentially get involved. And then there is a How, how can you contribute to the event? Just like a checklist. There's I can speak technically about Akash. I could help manage in Akash Meetup. And you'd be working with me or whoever would be working with me on that. So I can help help lead that demoing akash on stage. Like I'm very comfortable like being able to just demo of what it cautious doing, how to deploy, how to provide compute, whatever that might be. + +00:40:00 + +Adam Wozney: And then I do have support Akash network Expo, booth at a conference and that's more for I just want to see if there's folks that have attended events before and kind of just have a general understanding of what it takes to kind of be at an event and represent an organization. And then I have an other like other ways that people can contribute So I feel like going off of those questions, it'll be fairly simple for for myself and eventually, the community to kind of review and say, Yes, it makes sense. I think for this person to go + +Adam Wozney: So, yeah, that's kind of how I'm seeing it. So, like, for you, for Damir, if you're like, I want to help out Akash. I want to like, it'd be great for me to attend this event to learn more about what's going on. In the ecosystem. I'm happy to wear an akash T-shirt. As I walk around, that could be a perfect role for you. I think there could be value in that. So, I would say, just go and apply going and apply. And from there, we can kind of see where it makes sense. For folks, to contribute. + +Adam Wozney: And if anything else it's a it's a Free All expenses, paid trip to Berlin and Paris to connect with other crypto professionals. I think everyone that would go to. These events are gonna learn something that they can take back and contribute back to the Akash community. Like I want to do retro report. I want to have people highlight people, they talked with I think there's a lot of benefits from from going and attending these things. So I'm + +Adam Wozney: Number one thing is just, that's the action item for today. Go to that dock there, go and apply. If you think you'd like to contribute, I'm gonna make some posts, getting people to apply. And then, I would say, I think, in that, within the next 48 to 36 hours, we're gonna start reviewing and then buy this Friday. I want to start reaching out to individuals saying, Hey, would you like to go to this thing and start working with them? And this will be the first time we're doing it. So I'm expecting some roadblocks, some expecting, some issues and that's totally fine. The more we do this type of activity, the more seamless it'll become for future activities, and future events. So we get a lot more out of it. So, really, this is kind of an experiment if people go and just represent akash and walk around an event that can work. We can see where we can kind of go from there. So, Um main action on for today is go and apply. If you are interested in going to Berlin and Paris for these events. + +Adam Wozney: Any other questions before wrap things up? Andrew? Go ahead. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah, so guys, I'm gonna be a little quieter. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: It's late here. So my question in my question is, let's say I want to help but I'm unable to like right now to move from like to go about right now you get the war so I can't. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: But but um, let's say that I know a lot of stuff that happened around like in different blockchains. Right. And I say that, let's say that after like sweet sweet days after the burning Berlin and conference. There is just just an assumptions always like meet up at salon, right? That would be great for cash to work through and I can get the tickets for that. Right. Where do I? Well do I make the suggestions for that and like how do we get what applications? Look for example there was a speaker that talks on in the in the conference of the Baron Wright + +Adam Wozney: Hmm. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: And I would love for him. Like, did you or just ask him if he would, if he willing to go to another conference for son or near, or maybe some other project, that is like making some additional conference, like three days after the main, the main one. + +Adam Wozney: Got it. So I think we'll have to take those things case by case I would say there's a couple things one is if there are side events that are happening in the same city And within the same timeline of these other main events that are taking place highlight those opportunities and the 2023 events working group channel and discord. So if you find an event Andrew and say it's a Solano meetup, that's happening over that same time, period in Paris. And you know, that you could potentially get Akash either free tickets to go to this event or potentially, even like a panel slot or a speaking slot. Just highlight those in the discord working group channel, Because we don't at the end of the day, I can't say for certain who could actually go to these things until I know who from the community will be going to these events. + +00:45:00 + +Adam Wozney: So for now, I think the best place to highlight those opportunities is in that channel because I have a spreadsheet that I'm tracking the dates, the times the potential activities for Akash that I'm using the track, all these potential opportunities and as soon as they get locked in, I'm kind of confirming them. So, by the time, the event actually happens, I'll have a full agenda of items that we can go and participate in ready to go, but all of it's being kind of built, you know, it's like they say they the plane or the ship is on the sea while it's being built, it's kind of the same idea. Like the all of this is being planned while we're actually on our way to the thing. + +Adam Wozney: So, any opportunity anyone sees just go into the events discord channel and say, Hey, there's this meetup event taking place over the same time in Paris. If you want to attend DME, or let me know and I can connect you to those individuals. I think that's the best way to go about it. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Got to think. Makes sense me. + +Adam Wozney: Yep. Cool. + +Adam Wozney: So any other questions about anything I discussed today, the events, the HACKATHON. What else did I mention? I forget there's something else note, taking Big thing is events though. So any questions on this before we wrap up today? + +Adam Wozney: Cool. So action items go and apply whether or not, you think you'd be a benefit to go to these events or not. We just need people to review. There's been five applications coming in so far go and apply for the Paris events. The ECC awesome wasm osmo con you could just put July events in Paris as the events you want to participating because it's a week and a half long all in the same area. So, go and apply. I'm gonna be having promotions, go out on discord, and on, maybe even on Twitter, even though this is really only open for insiders. So it's kind of a benefit of being in a caution cider. For folks, listening go and apply for that as well. But if you have any other questions comments, feed it back concerns. Send me a DM, message, the events Working Group channel, or the SIG community channel, and we'll kind of go from there, but unless there's anything else we'll wrap it up today. + +Adam Wozney: All right, cool. Well, thank you guys for joining again, if you have questions. DM, me. But hopefully you guys apply and hopefully I'll get to meet you face to face in Berlin or in Paris this July. So as I always wrap it up, I'll say it again and again, I'll see you guys in the Metaverse. See you guys later. + +Scott Hewitson: See. + +Meeting ended after 00:48:22 👋 diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/005-2023-06-13.md b/sig-community/meetings/005-2023-06-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..08f02b70 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/005-2023-06-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,217 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #5 + +## Agenda. +- Introduction of a new reward program for creating a comprehensive FAQ document about Akash. +- Discussion on the Akash GPU testnet launch Submission Review. +- Plans to involve more community members in reviewing applications and onboarding of new Akash Insiders. +- Updates on Upcoming Akash hackathon. +- Updates on Q3 events with tentative approvals and sponsorships. +- Discussions on Governance proposal for Q3 events. + +## Meeting Details. +- Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://myhqjm7ptqmwz7ul2yss6gjqz25ljc57zamuqdzfpcgweai64j4a.arweave.net/Zg8Es--cGWz-i9YlLxkwzrq0i7_IGUgPJXiNYgEe4ng) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants + +- Adam Wozney +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- Forex Guru +- George Pro +- Javier Suarez +- Joao Luna +- Julius Haus +- Kwangwei Sim +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodrigo Rochin +- Scott Hewitson + + +## Meeting Notes + +### Updates on Q3 Events +- Adam Wozney started with the first agenda item, which was related to events in Q3 (July, August, September). +- Adam explained that they had tentative approval for some upcoming events and were working on sponsorships and planning. +- Adam mentioned that they had budgeted well for Q2 events and had only used about 25% of the proposed budget. +- Adam Emphasized Akash's participation in various activities at these events, including hosting Twitter spaces, moderating panels, and more. +- Adam Shared a [link](https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSca0NL_KdebSUOgoS5MYSWofp1R2B_2pXKOKILUKHcBeig3pw/viewform) for community members to apply and explained the selection process. +- Adam announced the Q4 events: Cosmoverse in Istanbul and kubecon in Chicago, inviting interested individuals to apply. +- Joao Luna asked if they could start applying for Q4 events. +- Adam Wozney confirmed that applications for Q4 events could be submitted and encouraged early applications. + +### Updates on Governance Proposal for Q3 Events. +- Discussed the need for technical community funds governance approval for Q3 events and the purpose of updating the community on previous quarter's spending. +- Adam announced that a governance proposal for Q3 event funding would be put forward for a vote in the next week or two. +- Quarterly governance proposals aim to update the community on previous quarter spends and budget needs. +- Scott Hewitson added a new point regarding tax considerations and reimbursements for event attendees, explaining that they will include a tax section in the new proposal to cover tax liabilities and ensure that reimbursements are not taxed. + +### Public Tracker for Event Funding. +- Adam Mentioned the inclusion of a public tracker to show how funds were being used. +- The tracker will provide information on spending and the wallet used for funding. +- Scott offered to share the [dashboard](https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/0/reporting/c3273ae3-3749-46fe-8aae-4db6169cedf6/page/BIUND) in the chat for a sneak peek. +- Adam encouraged attendees to check out the dashboard to get an early look at event spending. +- The public tracker will enhance transparency regarding how community funds are utilized for events. + +### GPU Testnet and Submission Review +- Adam Wozney discussed the upcoming launch of the incentivized Akash GPU testnet, which will enable GPU deployments on the network. +- Announced the need for insiders to participate in submission reviews for the GPU testnet. +- Adam mentioned the incentive structure for submission reviews: $1,000 in AKT for insiders and an additional $500 in AKT for vanguard community members. +- Adam mentioned that more information would be shared in the insiders channel and via email for those interested in participating. + +### Akash FAQ Document and Rewards Program. +- Adam Wozney introduced a new rewards program focused on building a robust FAQ document about Akash. +- Adam explained that the goal is to answer as many questions as possible through documentation, targeting new insiders and community members. +- Adam mentioned that the rewards scheme includes $10 in AKT for 10 questions and their answers, $50 for 25, $125 for 50, and $300 for 100 questions and answers. +- Adam added that there might be bonus AKT for those who contribute more than 100 questions. +- Adam noted that the process is simple, with community members entering their questions, answers, and Discord names for tracking purposes. +- Adam Emphasized that participation is open to Akash insiders and invited interested individuals to apply to become Akash insiders and participate in the FAQ document initiative. + +### Akash HACKATHON Updates. +- Adam Wozney briefly discussed the HACKATHON and mentioned the working group formed around it, consisting of two community managers and two marketing managers. +- Adam announced the HACKATHON registration date, which is July 17th, with the official launch date for building projects starting on July 30th. +- Adam noted that the HACKATHON would conclude on September 9th, lasting about a month and a half. +- Adam mentioned the focus on HACKATHON tracks and the high-level theme, which is a "Deployathon", aimed at building tools and content to help others deploy on the Akash network +- Adam mentioned a rough budget of around a hundred thousand dollars (in AKT) for the HACKATHON. +- Adam encouraged attendees to join the HACKATHON working group calls for more details and opportunities to get involved. + +### Akash Insiders Program, onboarding of new members. +- Adam noted that they receive one or two applications per week and haven't had much time to review and onboard new insiders. +- Adam shared thoughts on getting more community members involved in reviewing applications and bringing in new insiders to help build the Akash network. +- Adam mentioned having about 11 applications to review and the need to streamline the vetting process. +- Adam emphasized the importance of the community and its role in the project's success. + +### Other matters discussed +- Forex Guru inquired about the Akash Insiders program and how to join. +- Adam provided a detailed explanation of Akash Insiders, highlighting their active involvement in the community, content creation, event participation, and representation at conferences. +- Adam shared a [link](https://akash.network/community/insiders/) for those interested in applying to become Akash Insiders. +- Participants discussed that technical background is preferred but not mandatory; passionate and engaged individuals are also welcome. + +## Action Items +- Adam Wozney to provide information on the GPU Testnet submission review process to insiders. +- Adam Wozney to share details and updates about the Akash FAQ document project in the insiders' channel. +- Adam Wozney to consider ways to involve more community members in reviewing Akash Insiders Program applications. +- Adam Wozney to share link to the previous proposal and spending details for Q2 events with the community for review. +- Adam Wozney to share information about the upcoming HACKATHON and its details in the wg-hackathon discord channel. +- All participant to Stay engaged in the Akash community and participate in upcoming initiatives, such as the HACKATHON and FAQ document project. + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Adam Wozney: All right. So, thank you guys for joining today's SIG community call as a reminder, that monthly calls all focused on you guys on the Akash community. For a quick definition. I like these at the beginning of each of these calls really the purpose of the Special Interest group around community at AKASH, is to discuss support and manage Akash network community initiatives. Some examples of those initiatives have really, you know, become working groups. So the HACKATHON events various activities involving you guys. So I would say the SIG community calls probably my favorite of all the sigs. So thank you guys for joining us. + +Adam Wozney: I have a number of things to cover today, I'm looking through the agenda. I put together, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, things to cover. So we got a lot to cover today. But, um, before I get into any of that, some of these things will be, I see a lot of faces. Some of these things will go, maybe just be quick, little mentions, but I'm some of these you want to cover a little bit more in depth, but um, before I get into, kind of my agenda, are there, anything is, or is there anything that you guys want to add to the agenda or would like to cover as a part of this call? + +Adam Wozney: Nope, excellent. Well, more than likely if you do have something you'd like to cover, I'll be covering it in my agenda. Um, cool. So the first thing I wanted to go over today was events related. So a handful of event activities. So the first one open the let someone in here second admit and admit cool. The first thing I wanted to cover was Q3 um event governance so Q3 is nice in July August. Is it? + +Adam Wozney: January February, March April May June July August and September. So July August is September events that have gone through a proposal that we actually put on chain. It was voted on an approved. We already have tentative approval for some upcoming events and we're already on in works, getting our sponsorships and who's attending and what we'll be doing at these events underway. But we haven't really gone through the technical kind of community funds governance approval for Q3 events. It's been it's been technically approved as a part of our first governance proposal. We put out a few months ago but we want to do this quarterly as a way to update the community on what we've spent in queue to or previous quarters to showcase what we've accomplished in previous quarters. And then to get kind of a final check mark in using community pool funds for having + +Adam Wozney: Present at events of significance. So myself and Scott who's on this, call has put together a governance proposal for funding, that will need to pull out of the community pool to attend some upcoming events that are taking place. We're ready well on underway in terms of planning for these events but um this is the final kind of check mark to get kind of community approval for some events that we want to attend. The good news is in Q2. We really only used about 25% of what the proposed budget was, that's due to who went to events, how much we spent at an event and mostly that was that consensus in Austin. That happened back in March, I believe or April and there was an event that was a part of that proposal that we actually didn't go and attend. So we can use that for Q3 funding which actually is a good thing. + +Adam Wozney: Um, as I've mentioned before events are not a perfect science. It's hard to know how much travel costs will be what sponsorships will be. There's negotiation that goes into it. Who's going to attend it, all that stuff. So they're not a perfect science but the idea behind these proposals are to get enough funding from the community pool. So we do have budget to do what we want to do at these events to get as much bang for our buck. So right now the proposal isn't live yet but we want to do is change for a vote probably within the next week or so I'm gonna be working with Scott on this. I'm not a CLI expert so I think Scott's gonna take Give it the Old College. Try to get this on chain for a vote, so hopefully within the next week or two we're gonna have another community governance proposal to go alive for fun for vote funding. + +Adam Wozney: Um, as mentioned, it's essentially technically approved already from our first governance vote. But this is something we want to do quarterly, just so we can update the community and what our previous quarter spends. Were how much money will actually need for this quarter and all that stuff. One cool thing that we're going to include in this governance proposal is there will be a public tracker. So you can actually go in and check out the the wallet that we're using for funding see how much we've actually spent see what those funds are used for and it's all gonna be public. So people can go check out what we've been spending on things. So this will be the second time we're doing this, so we're still learning. But I would say for where things stand today, in terms of funding events that are important for a cost to have a presence set, things are looking pretty good. I don't know if there's anything you want to cover Scott, but I think I kind of touched on everything. + +00:05:00 + +Scott Hewitson: Um, yeah. I mean I can do you want me to drop the the dashboard and chat I can. If you'd like, I mean, I know it's gonna come out when we put the proposal on If everyone wants to, Get a quick look at it if you're all right, with that. + +Scott Hewitson: Boss. + +Scott Hewitson: You there. + +Adam Wozney: Oh sorry, I was muted. Yeah, I think that's totally cool. This is all gonna be live soon anyways. So you guys because you joined this call, you're getting a little bit of Alpha. So it's just another reason to join these as security calls. So, if you want to see what we spent, what was proposed and and what are events, so far have looked like, in terms of what we've had to spend in terms of getting involved in these events. Go check out that link that Scott just put in the in the chat. Um cool. Any questions on the upcoming governance for Q3 events? Go ahead, Scott. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I just one more thing to add. So as we were kind of going through it, you know, we're because we had a couple questions from people. Attending events for like tax purposes, and reimbursements, and all that. So one thing that will be different and that'll it'll reflect in the new proposal is We're gonna we're putting in like a tax taxes, essentially, so that Overclock labs can have a cover tax liability. But with that, we're hoping that, you know, if we we cover it there, then any kind of reimbursements to anybody? It's just a covered reimbursement. So that nobody has to pay taxes on any tokens or any money that they get off of it. I mean, you know, we're kind of in Gray space So just trying to do the right thing, you know. So yeah, that'll be a part of it. + +Adam Wozney: Very cool. Thank you, Scott. Awesome. So any questions on the upcoming governance proposal? The document that Scott just shared any questions on that stuff. + +Adam Wozney: Okay cool. All right, so the next agenda item are is event related as well. It's the upcoming events that we have, so, I think most of you in this color are pretty familiar with what we have in store for Q3 events. The events that we're gonna be attending in this July are all happening in Berlin and in Paris, it's basically gonna be the hub of all crypto activity in the world over that time period. So, there's gonna be a small contingency of community members and this is another kind of exciting thing. It's the first time we're pulling in community members to represent akash at events, which I think is really powerful. It's showcases just the size and scope and abilities of our community. + +Adam Wozney: So we're gonna have two insiders, a caution ciders who are kind of community ambassadors at Akash attending with myself, Adam Berlin, awesome wasm. And hack wasm, which are all happening in Berlin. There's actually, I think one or two other events that are happening, and there's a lot of side events that are always taking place. So those are the big ones. So there will be side of an activities that I'm sure will be participating in. So I'm really excited about those events and then there's me two other Akash. Insiders attending a handful of events that are happening in Paris right after Berlin. So she file, which is kind of a women's education in Crypto Community Group ECC, which is kind of the largest community, run ethereum developer conference. There's also gonna be HACKATHON happening there. There's a small Cosmos Meetup which I've been in touch with a handful of Cosmos folks from secret and of most. And I think a few other projects injected, I think is on that list that will be participating in + +Adam Wozney: Um osmocon, which is the second osmosis conference that's being held this year in Paris. And then Nebular Summit, which is kind of a big cosmos related HACKATHON and Cosmos conference. + +Adam Wozney: So we're gonna be doing a lot of different things that we're going to be hosting Twitter spaces. We're gonna be moderating panels, we're gonna be on panels, besides, just attending these events. So I'm really excited to see what takes place at all these. Different activities in July, and there's about three and a half weeks away. So, thanks to everyone who's participated in this election of those events, who's participating in those events, and I wanted to mention. There are there's one other event coming up and Q3 that'll be part of this Q3 governance proposal. And that's a massari main net, which is happening in New York City. Um, if you're interested and I'm just starting to work on what a potential sponsorship looks like speaking opportunities. All that stuff for anyone that's interested in attending that event or upcoming events. I just put a link in the, in the chat, in the chat where you can apply + +00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: And basically applications for community members. Represent a cautious pretty straightforward. We've discussed this in the events working group call. So, if you haven't been in those calls, you're missing out. But the easiest way we decided to kind of do this is people apply. I'll review and look to who's closest geographically, who has the skill sets, who is the availability to help manage a meetup that we could potentially do or in stage and give a workshop and talk about cost technically. And from that, I'll pitch those individuals in the working group calls that we have and then lock people in and start getting people to represent Akash. Cool thing about this is you a you have to be in a caution cider to be eligible. Um and be if you're admitted, you're accepted. It's a free trip out to those cities to represent akash and connect with other crypto community members. So if you're interested go and apply, I'll be reviewing those things in a rolling basis and I think in the next events working group call, we'll dive a little bit more into that but + +Adam Wozney: Stay tuned for when that working group call is a plan. Last events related thing is the Q4 event. So as a part of our initial governance, proposals are two events that are happening this and Q4 this year, which is December November October, One is Cosmo verse in Istanbul and the other is kubecon in Chicago. So if you guys are interested in attending, those fill up that application. And then again on a rolling basis, we'll review those applications in the events working group calls. So, any questions on events getting involved upcoming, the governor's proposal, any of that stuff before I move on to my, my next few topics here at discuss. + +Adam Wozney: Go ahead, Mr. Luna + +Joao Luna: So, from our understood, we can already start applying for Q4 events. Is that correct? All right. + +Adam Wozney: Correct. Yep. I think the earlier by the better. That way. It'll just give us time to review who's available and… + +Joao Luna: Okay. + +Adam Wozney: all that stuff. + +Adam Wozney: One thing to note and I don't have my notes in front of me but there are requirements and expectations for attending events. + +Adam Wozney: Um Basically the whole purpose of the application form is to figure out who has the skill set to do different things at events from helping support a meetup, we would run to getting up on stage and and presenting akash technically a non-technically to other activities. In addition to that, there are requirements like I mentioned, you have to be in a caution cider. We are trying to make it as fair as possible for folks to attend. So, we want to look for folks that are probably geographically closer because that'll keep costs down in terms of travel. Um, geographically closer helps also helps with native speakers. So for, there's an event in say, I don't know in Korea and we have a caution cider who lives in Korea or nearby and speaks Korean that goes up a little bit higher in the, in the potential of attending and representing Akash at those events. So, + +Adam Wozney: That's the thing. Oh, and then the last thing to cover on that part is if someone has attended an event already that doesn't necessarily and they're cool. They live closer. That doesn't necessarily mean that they would be selected because we do want to make it even. So other insiders have the opportunity to attend and represent akash at these upcoming events. So it's not a perfect science but there is some thought that's gone into who's selected and why they're selected and all that stuff. So I just want to mention that as well. Cool. Any other final event questions before moving on to a couple other items. + +Adam Wozney: All right, cool. So yeah, so GPU testnet. So, I think everyone this call would have to have been living under a rock, not to know that Akash is putting GPUs on the network. Very exciting, it's gonna open up a whole world of different deployments and provider opportunities for folks that want to get involved in Akash. We're we're aiming to launch the incentivize a Cox GPU testnet next week and similarly to test nets. We've done in the past. We know there's gonna be a lot of submissions from the tasks and challenges that are put out to people from benchmarking challenges to just basic tasks to make sure that GPUs will work on the network once it goes live on our next mainnet grade. So, as a part of that, we're looking for insiders to participate in submission review. + +00:15:00 + +Adam Wozney: These submission reviews will also be incentivized and right now, they're rough math around getting involved in submission reviews and we'll have more information on this in. The insiders channel for folks that are insiders and if you're not insider on this call, which I'm looking most of you are go and apply to be admitted as an insider. And it gives you all this opportunity to get more involved and with rewards and other community members and so forth. But right now, the rough math is we're looking to provide a thousand USD paid an Akt for insiders and an additional 500 USD paid an Akt for our vanguard community to help us review tasks and some missions as a part of our GPU testnet. + +Adam Wozney: Um, this will probably run about two weeks and we're looking for folks to participate in that. So we'll have more information on that and the insiders channel I'm gonna put in an email for folks. So if you're interested in getting involved in submission review and I think a handful of you in this call up in a part of submission, reviews and previous. Testnets, it's pretty simple process. But You can get rewarded for helping support and build the AKASH network. So stay tuned for more information on the submission reviews but that should be going out this week with more information and to sign up and get involved and submission reviews for GPU testnet. Um, any questions on the testnet or the Submission Review, rewards? + +Adam Wozney: Cool. I think everyone's aware awesome. Um, next up is kind of another reward kind of program we're launching. So we're looking to build a more robust kind of question and answer like FAQ uh document about akash. The whole goal of that is for new insiders for people that are part of our community. We want to be able to answer as many questions as possible through documentation that exists either on our website or through the caution cider program, people answering community questions and support telegram. + +Adam Wozney: So we're looking to build a document that is very robust and when I say very robust, we're actually looking to get 500 questions and 500 answers within a certain time period. We're actually looking to build this up, so over the next few weeks and I'll be putting out more information on this and the insiders channel and I'll be talking about a little bit more in the office hours that we do on Thursday. But we're looking to get 500 high, quality questions, and 500 high quality answers all about Akash. + +Adam Wozney: Um, we have a rewards kind of schematic built off for this and I'll be sharing this as well on the insiders channel, but wanted to share this in the community call. Right now we're looking to give 10 USD all paid in Akt for 10 questions and their corresponding answers, if you're able to do 25, there's 50 USD. If you're able to do 50, there's a hundred and twenty five USD. And if you're able to do 100, there's 300 USD paid an Akt for questions and answers that will live inside this spreadsheet that we're building out. Um, if you add more than 100 questions, we'll throw in some bonus Akt for folks, that's yet to be determined. As I mentioned, this is only open to a caution siders that want to participate. So if you're interested in getting involved in this apply to be in a caution cider and we'll get you involved in our Akash FAQ document so, yeah, I wanted to mention that any questions about the Akash FAQ document, + +Adam Wozney: And the rewards incentives, all that stuff. Well blessing I'll mention is it's pretty simple process. So if people are interested, we're gonna share this document with insiders to review. They'll put in their question, they'll put in their answer and they'll type in their discord name. So we can track how many different questions have been created by members of the community so we can send off rewards. Once this is all done. We're looking to wrap up this kind of project at the end of Testnet so I believe in July early July. So I think this week we should be able to send off the details on this but um wanted to let you guys know in the community call and for folks that aren't any Saturday community in case they do want to join and participate in this rewards program. Cool. + +Adam Wozney: Um and then I have two more items to cover. So the first one is very briefly around the HACKATHON. So there is a working group formed around the HACKATHON. Right now, we have two community managers and two marketing managers that are part of the HACKATHON. In terms of building it out, supporting it and getting folks involved. Right now, we have the registration date, the HACKATHON kicking off July 17th. So, it's about a little bit actually. It's about a month away. Wow. Um, the official launch date of the HACKATHON where people can start building and we'll send out details, we'll be July 30th. We're looking to wrap up the HACKATHON, fully August 9th. So actually wait, July September July, August September, so sorry, September 9th, I gotta change my notes. September 9th. So that basically means the HACKATHON will last about a month and a half. + +00:20:00 + +Adam Wozney: In our previous HACKATHON working group calls we've we've kind of narrowed in our focus on HACKATHON tracks. Basically, what we want people to build as a part of this HACKATHON. + +Adam Wozney: And the high level theme for this first kind of community on HACKATHON is essentially a Deployathon we want to build tools, we want to build content that helps other people deploy onto the Akash network. So the high-level goals will be really, you know, if you build a project as a part of a HACKATHON track and you're able to get, you know, X amount of deployments that we can track through these two through your work, you'll win rewards. Um, right now, I think we have a rough budget around a hundred thousand dollars as a part of this or maybe a hundred thousand Akt at double check that. So there's a lot of Akt to win a lot of incentives. A lot of tracks that can build, but really it's focus on getting more folks on to the Akash network, we'll have more details in the HACKATHON working group calls. So, join those calls that are happening, probably weekly starting next week. So, feel free to jump in and learn more about the HACKATHON or potentially get involved. Any questions about the upcoming HACKATHON? + +Adam Wozney: Cool. Cool. And the last thing I just wanted to cover was around a caution sideways which I believe everyone on this call is um we're averaging about one or two applications per week, I haven't really had too much time to go in weekly and review these applications set up calls onboard new insiders. So I'm starting to think a little bit more about how I can get folks involved in reviewing applications getting more applicants to join. The insiders program because really insiders are the tip of the spear in terms of building out the akash network and making the ecosystem friendly and workable. So I'm starting to think a little bit more about and this is just for you guys to be aware and kind of letting you know what I'm up to. I'm starting to think a little bit more about how I can get other members of the community to vet on board and engage with potential new insiders to join the program. + +Adam Wozney: Because I think that's our real competitive mode at the end of the day is our community. If you look around a lot of other projects, they do not have what I would call a robust community and I think it cost does. That's all thanks to you guys. So I'm starting to think a little bit more about how we can kind of build out the insiders program. Get more people involved. You guys involved in vetting and applications so just wanted to mention that right now I have about 11 applications that are in that. I haven't had time to review, but it doesn't take too long, but I'm just thinking a little bit more about that. So I want to mention that Um, beyond that, that's really all I had today. So, this actually went a little bit quicker than I thought, we only need about 30 minutes. Any questions on anything I mentioned or any agenda items, you'd want to discuss or chat about. + +Adam Wozney: Go ahead, Forex. + +Adam Wozney: You're muted. If you're talking, + +Adam Wozney: Oh, maybe nothing. Oh, there you go. + +Forex Guru: Okay, just to be clear. When you say inside that, what you mean by insiders, who are the inside, doesn't how, how do you? Join the inside the inside and members. + +Adam Wozney: Absolutely. So I'll put in a link right now. It'll teach you a little bit more about the insider community and how to apply. But basically a caution Siders are really the tip of the Akash Community Sphere, they're folks who are actively monitoring and responding to community questions and discord or telegram. They're creating content about Akash from video, guides to technical content to blog posts and they're folks that are getting involved in events, both in person and online, either hosting events that are beneficial to the akashico system or crypto overall, or hosting their own events in person. In their local areas that I also includes folks at represent Akash at conferences. So the really folks that are highly engaged. They've raised their hands say They want to get more involved in Akash. I think most everyone on this call is in a caution cider which is great but to apply you just go to that that website. It is linked over to you. + +Adam Wozney: You what the Accountsiders are about. Sending your application and we can kind of go from there. One thing I wanted to mention is generally speaking. We try to onboard a caution ciders that are a little bit more technical so like developer folks. But there are folks that are non-technical that are maybe, let's say technical enough, that our super passionate about, we're doing looking to learn more looking to educate themselves about crypt and what a cautious doing and those those folks are taking into consideration as well. But generally speaking, we try to bring in technical folks but if folks are really passionate building and doing really cool things getting involved, we want to like work with those individuals and and help them out and be kind of contributing members of the Akash community. So that's the high level on the insiders program. + +00:25:00 + +Adam Wozney: Any questions on that? + +Forex Guru: It's fine. + +Adam Wozney: Well. Question. All right. Any other questions from everyone this call or anything? Anybody wants to discuss? + +Adam Wozney: Excellent. Well, thank you guys for joining today's state community. Call actually one lot quicker than I thought it would. As I mentioned, I'm gonna update the insiders channel folks that are insiders With information on the AKASH FAQ documents, the GPU Testnet Submission review for folks that want to apply and attend these upcoming conferences. I have that linked inside the calendar or inside the chat here. And if anybody wants to review our previous proposal and our spend from Q2 events, check that link out that Scott shared in the chat. But, um, beyond that, if you have any questions head over to the SIG community channel and discord and we'll talk ad hoc there. Other than that, we'll see you guys in a month in our next SIG call. And as I always do, say, I'll see you guys in the Metaverse. Thanks for joining everybody. + +Robert Del Rey: Adam. + +Julius Haus: Bye. + +Adam Wozney: So, you guys, + +Meeting ended after 00:37:42 👋 diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/007-2023-08-08.md b/sig-community/meetings/007-2023-08-08.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3cf9fa4e --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/007-2023-08-08.md @@ -0,0 +1,235 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #7 + +## Agenda +- Discussions on 2023 events approved via the community governance proposal. +- Discussions, updates and progress on the Akash Hackathon (Akash-a-thon). +- Brief overview of Akash Insiders Program and Vanguard's Program. + +## Participants +- Adam Wozney +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- Cheng Wang +- Dan +- George Pro +- Julius Haus +- Max +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodrigo Rochin + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://7zxtouwijc7m4syzoixc4ncvcas5hvm46mka44lzxyyr63zi3f6q.arweave.net/_m83UshIvs5LGXIuLjRVECXT1ZzzFA5xeb4xH28o2X0) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Meeting Notes + +### Update on Approved Events +- Adam mentioned that several events were approved as part of the community governance proposal earlier in the year. +* Adam announced that they would no longer be attending KubeCon this year and provided reasons for this decision: + + Budget constraints, as Kubecon is a more established and costly event. + + Challenges in securing speaking opportunities without substantial sponsorship + + Misalignment between the project's focus and the audience of Kubecon. + - Adam Wozney shared that they are considering participation in cloud-related Web2 events in 2024. + - Adam acknowledged the need for further discussions and working group calls to plan for 2024 events. + - Adam concluded the discussion on not attending KubeCon this year and highkighted that two other events were still in progress: + +#### 1. Massari Mainnet + - Event scheduled for September in New York. + - Adam currently working on documentation and sponsorship agreements. + - Adam explained that they will have a 15-second video ad played on 40 monitors every two minutes during Massari Mainnet. + - Adam mentioned additional sponsorship benefits, including hosting a 30-minute talk on the Expo floor. + - Discussed plans to create a community bounty for a unique 15-second ad and mentioned the upcoming posting of the bounty in the Discord channel. + - Mentioned Greg's participation in a panel at Massari Mainnet. + +#### 2. Cosmoverse +- Adam discussed Cosmoverse, a significant Cosmos-related conference and hackathon. +- Adam announced Greg's involvement in a panel at the conference (details to be determined). +- Adam mentioned Akash's participation in the Cosmoverse hackathon, "Hackmos." +- Adam mentioned the acquisition of a booth at Cosmoverse for Akash representatives. +- Adam mentioned ongoing efforts to identify attendees from the insiders community. +- Adam indicated that attendees from OverclockLabs and the insiders community would be attending these events. + +### Discussion on Akash Hackathon (Akashathon) +- Adam Wozney provided an update on the Akash Hackathon and mentioned that the registration period is ongoing. +- Adam explained the requirements for sponsored tracks, including workshop participation and community support. +- Adam Shared the goal of finalizing sponsors, judges, and workshops by the end of the week. +- Described the timeline, with the Hackathon running for about a month and a half until late September. +- Adam explained the judges' period for evaluation and the announcement of winners in early October. +- Cheng suggested involving outside members as judges as well as OCL (OverclockLabs) members. +- Adam invited Rodrigo Rochin, a member of the Hackathon team, to provide high-level updates. +- Adam nentioned three confirmed judges: Greg, Sarah, and Vladi and encouraged participants to visit DoraHacks for more information on the Hackathon. +- Rodrigo Rochin mentioned that some judges are yet to confirm, hoping for confirmation soon. + +### updates on Akash Insiders +- Adam mentioned that he has been occupied with event-related tasks but plans to review and onboard about eight to ten new insider. +- Participants discussed the importance of having active members from other communities join the Akash Insiders community. +- Adam encouraged participants to introduce potential Insiders or direct them to the website to apply. +#### Akash Insider Appreciation Day +- Adam introduced the concept of hosting an Akash Insider Appreciation Day, tentatively scheduled for December. +- Adam explained the purpose of the event, which is to highlight the contributions of Akash Insiders to the community. +- Adam invited participants to get involved in planning and contributing to the event. +- Adam Mentioned that there is ample time for preparation and encouraged interested individuals to message him on Discord to participate. + +### Other Matters Discussed +##### 1. Akash Zealy Initiative + - Robert Del Rey introduced the topic of the Akash Zealy Initiative. + - Robert Mentioned discussions with George and Oiclid aabout the Zealy Initiative. + - Encouraged participants to join the Zealy Working Group on Akash Discord. + - Adam Wozney expressed interest in getting involved and highlighted the importance of community building through such initiatives. + +##### 2. Discussion on Event Budgeting +Andrew Gnatyuk inquired about the possibility of exploring in-person events, such as hackathons or conferences, outside approved 2023 events. +- Adam Wozney explained that while the events budget approved through the governance proposal is specific to listed events, there is an overage budget for unforeseen opportunities. +- Adam suggested creating a standalone budget for events like these in the future. +- Adam mentioned the possibility of submitting governance proposals for both known events and community-highlighted opportunities. + +## Action Items +- Adam Wozney to lead planning for events in 2024 with a focus on cloud-related and web2 events. +- Adam to create a community bounty for a unique 15-second ad for Massari Mainnet. +- Hackathon team to secure additional judges, potentially from various Cosmos projects. +- Adam to identify attendees and representatives for Cosmoverse and other events. +- Insiders to plan and contribute to the Akash Insider Appreciation Day in December. +- Adam to Find a technical speaker for the 30-minute talk at Massari Mainnet. + +## **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Adam Wozney: All we're cool. So, thank you guys for joining today's community Sig call. I was mentioning in my previous recording before I forgot to click Start Transcribing. This is the first one we've done in a little while. And mostly that's because July and June were very busy, event months months, and a handful of insiders and community. Members, and myself were attending events that were taking place in Berlin, and Paris. So a handful of things to catch folks up on. But just to kind of level set, The point of these calls is to discuss support and manage akash community initiatives. Those initiatives can be numerous in nature and we'll cover some of those here in a minute, but if you guys have any questions, thoughts concerns just raise your hand and we'll get you involved. And I'm leaving time at the end for questions and answers and feedback folks that are watching the recording. Unfortunately, you can't leave any feedback so be sure to join these calls. + +Adam Wozney: So before I kick off, my agenda, is there anything that anybody wants to discuss or highlight before I kind of go sit through my agenda items for today? If not. We're totally cool. + +Adam Wozney: all right first up is So there's a handful of events that have been approved as a part of the community governance proposal we did earlier this year. I mean we have a few coming up this One of which I want to kind of give an update and I made an update in the the working Group channel inside of discord. We're no longer going to be attending and I'll kind of go over some general reasons for that in a second. I want to cover our HACKATHON, give you guys some updates on what's going on the HACKATHON. I was hoping some of our HACKATHON, participants some of the folks that are helping Could join to give some updates but that's totally cool. I can provide some updates talk briefly about the Akash insiders program and Vanguard's program. I want to highlight something cool that I'm working on that. Maybe some folks listening in, maybe want to participate in and insider or a caution cider Appreciation day, which I'll talk about in a second. + +Adam Wozney: And then at the end, leave some questions and answers and feedback. But first off as events, so kind of pulling the Band-Aid off folks, at Overclock Labs. And speaking with some community members, we've decided not to attend kubecon this year, even though it was approved as a part of community governance proposal. And the biggest reason is it's outside of our budget. Kubecon is a much more + +Adam Wozney: Established event. And a lot of the crypto events that we've been known to attend Cosmo verse Wozum East Denver, those types of events and being that it's a much more established events. They have much more processes. They have a lot more people that you work with on the Sponsorship Team for Kubecon is 12 deep. Whereas the events that I've worked with and putting on our sponsorships before in the past is two people and they're willing to negotiate. You can kind of get some things out of the event that you normally can't for these larger scale events like speakers for example they have a whole team dedicated just for content for kubecon. And sponsorships are completely separate from the speakers team. + +Adam Wozney: We put in an application to speak at kukan. It didn't go through. And the only way to get speaking opportunities. Stage time is actually sponsoring at over 100,000 US dollars, which is almost double what, our total sponsorship, budget was for kubecon. So that's kind of a learning for next time. So that's the biggest reason why we're not going to be sponsoring kubecon this year, in addition to that. There's a few things that the product probably needs to have. That would make it a little bit more appealing for attendees and the audience for kubecon being that we're kind of a crypto project and Ku Khan is really focused on Web2 folks, that's another kind of hurdle and being that we don't have some of the key features tools applications available. For a more web to audience. It just doesn't really make sense for us to attend kubecon this year. + +Adam Wozney: I know, Luna who is one of our insiders attended kubecon Europe and he got a lot of benefits from attending that he was able to connect with different organism, some of the organizers. He was able to + +Adam Wozney: going on inside of kubecon Europe, but even with that, it just doesn't really make sense for us to throw that amount of money behind getting involved in kubecon. However, we are thinking about and starting to plan on what 2024 looks like in terms of events for Akash, which really we want to get involved in a lot more. cloud-related, Web 2 events, which is exciting, but also scary because a lot of the events that we've attended in the past are Crypto related but grow as a community. We're not going to grow as an industry unless we start to play nice with web2 folks. So we are thinking about what 2024 looks like, not much to discuss they're quite yet because we need to hold some working group calls, some event calls with community members, to kind of start to digest and think through what 2024 looks like in terms of events for So that's the kind of quick, sad news that we won't be at Kubecon this year. However, there are two events that are very much moving. + +00:05:00 + +Adam Wozney: First one is Mainnet Massari, which is happening. The September in New York, we are working on our documentation. Right now, getting things paid, citing agreements as a part of the sponsorship. We're gonna get a 15 second video ad that plays at Massari Mainnet. So, sorry, minute is a huge event for folks that It used to be in New York at the Hilton of attended that one before. I don't think. And now I think it's moved to Austin. Is that right Cheng? You might remember, I can't remember. I'm pretty sure it's in Austin now and I have an attended the Austin one yet. no. Sorry. It's here. + +Adam Wozney: That's right. So last year was the first year that they moved from the Hilton which was in Times It's like four levels giant event to the seaport I believe last year was the first year that did that. I was unable to attend that one. So I'm not sure what it looks like this time, but this go around. It looks like I will be in attendance. So one of the things that we get, as a part of our sponsorship is a 15 second video ad, that is gonna be played on 40 different monitors throughout the duration of Sorry Mainnet, which is kind of exciting those ads play every two minutes. So that's basically every two minutes throughout the duration of massari, there will be some form of advertising of As a part of that I've actually started working on creating a bounty for the community to develop. + +Adam Wozney: A video ad that can play at Massari Mainnet. I'm putting the finishing touches on what that bounty looks like. Some of the requirements, the timeline, all that good stuff and I should be posting that probably in the discord channel. It cost escort here at some point this week before the week is over. But basically what we're looking for is the community to create a 15 second ad, That's super unique. There's a lot of noise at Massari Mainnet, There's a lot of attention going all over the place. So having an ad that really pops and gets people's attention and having a nice QR code that people can, scan to go and learn more about Akash, is gonna be really important. I'm super excited for this ad. I think this will be something that can be really unique and draw a lot of attention to So I'm kind of excited about it but as for that bounty I should be posting the bounty probably this week. I don't know before the end of the week. Right now I'm just kind of reviewing the copy that I put together. + +Adam Wozney: On top of that for sponsorship, we're also going to be able to host. It kind of an informal talk, believe it's about 30 minutes on the Expo floor is where all the different sponsors have booths. There's sponsors from all across the crypto spectrum that are going to be there and Massari is actually set up, kind of a smaller stage that's inside of that expo area, where we're gonna have 30 minutes to kind of informally introduce folks to I think we're gonna look for some technical person to come and give a talk tvd and who that'll be. But that is one additional thing that we're getting as a part of the sponsorship along with all the other nuts and bolts, branding on different printouts, email blasts, social media posts that Massari is doing. So I'm pretty excited about Massari Mainnet. + +Adam Wozney: What else? and one other edition is I was able to get in touch with someone who is one of the main content organizers from I mean that and we were able to get Greg on a panel. This is free of charge which I'm excited about and we also get a speaker ticket from it. So that'll give us some more tickets to attend the event. + +Adam Wozney: Greg will be on a cosmos panel. I don't know who the other cosmos folks are, I think, actually, they sent over information, but if you're interested in learning more about that panel, send me a DM and I can send you the details, but I don't have them in front of me right now. So, that's Masari Mainnet. The last event. That's kind of main focus is Cosmo, verse. That's the one that everyone's excited about. That's probably the biggest and largest Cosmos related kind of conference HACKATHON that's taking place this year. We're doing a bunch of stuff for Cosmo verse. So right now, they confirm things that we're gonna be doing are we're gonna be on a panel. I'm gonna be on a community panel, so at Cosmo versus median. Last year, I gave a kind of fireside chat with Demi, from Juno Network on kind of the business of community building. + +Adam Wozney: So that's one thing. We're gonna be doing. Another thing is Greg's gonna be on a panel tbd on, who's gonna be on that panel. What we're gonna be discussing or what he'll be discussing. But that's one other additional thing that we're gonna be doing at Cosmo Verse. We're also getting involved in the first ever Cosmo Cosmo verse hackathon called Hackmos and hack, most is basically just an opportunity for builders in the cosmos ecosystem to build cool things that, benefit to the ecosystem overall. So we have a Dev workshop that we're looking to give, that's gonna be about or 30 minutes to an hour. I think, where we can kind of introduce people to akash in kind of highlight, some things that people can build on top of the Akash network. and this is a thing that I didn't know where we're getting, but it's a very much a value add is we're gonna get a boost at hack. Most and that booth is gonna be a small little area where people that just want to learn more about Akash come up and talk about Akash with some Akash representatives, in terms of who's all attending and all that stuff. I'm still working out people. + +00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: Applied that are part of the insiders community to attend both Cosmos and Massari Mainnet. I think we have a pretty good lockdown on who from Overclock. Labs will be attending, but Tbd and I would say over the next week or two, I should be able to figure out exactly who are all the attendees and who can attend those different events and represent and the last thing I was going to mention on events before. if you guys have any questions is I mentioned this a minute ago but we are looking to get more involved in AI. Cloud kind of Web 2 events that are taking place. I have a pretty good understanding of all the crypto activities and web3 activities that are happening. The key events that cost you'd have a presence at, but as we grow, and, as I mentioned a minute ago, as we expand our community, we need to get more involved in these Web 2, ecosystems specifically around AI and Cloud. + +Adam Wozney: So, if you guys know of any interesting events that you think Akash should represent head over to the discord channel or Discourse Channel or sorry, discord discord channel, the Events Working Group and just throw in your ideas on this could be a good event for Akash to represent and we can start thinking about that for Q4 this year and leading into 2024. so, before I move on to the HACKATHON, any events related questions, + +Adam Wozney: All Moving on, Next up is the HACKATHON. So yes. We are a little over halfway through the registration period, for the first ever, kind of I guess community owned and supported Akash Hackathon called the Akashathon. + +Adam Wozney: We partnered with DoraHacks on this, they've been a fantastic partner, really excited to get involved them. They're getting very very much involved in the cosmos ecosystem, which I think is beneficial to Akash long term but we are in the registration period right now. The HACKATHON is due to kick off which essentially means submissions can be coming in by This coming Monday up until that time I've been working with four Akash insiders to find judges for reviewing HACKATHON submissions to lock in workshops. We're going to be doing weekly workshops introduce kosh and different aspects of Akash and then finally finding HACKATHON sponsored tracks and basically sponsored tracks are, for example, We're talking with archway and Archway wants to figure out a way to There's only a few requirements to be a HACKATHON Track one is, they have to be willing to get participating in one of the workshops that we're hosting. + +Adam Wozney: hello. Dan one. Is that to be willing to participate in the workshops that we're doing? As a part of the HACKATHON two is they have to come up with what that HACKATHON track looks like and it has to have some sort of connective tissue between a caution their project for people to build out. Two is they have to be willing to provide community support inside of The HACKATHON discord channels that are going to live soon. And then three is they have to be able to put up bounty for their HACKATHON track. So, we should be having all of that stuff locked in sponsored tracks judges and the workshops, by this Thursday. Because Fridays, when we're gonna do a big push to get more people to apply and register to the HACKATHON, which without any really promotion. So far, we have around 15 to 20, folks, who have registered. So I'm happy about that. But we want much more. + +Adam Wozney: As for the timelines. So yeah. HACKATHON kicks off next week. It's gonna run about a month and a half. So it's editing around end of September. There will be a long judges period where we send all the submissions from all the different HACKATHON tracks to our panel of judges to choose first. Second and third place. Their favorite ones, we're gonna tally up the votes and then in early, October, we're gonna announce the winners. And that's kind of it for the HACKATHON. I think. Do we have Rodrigo? I know you're part of the HACKATHON team. Do you have any other high level updates you'd like to give on the HACKATHON? Yeah, go ahead. + +00:15:00 + +Rodrigo Rochin: I'm still waiting on some judges to confirm, hopefully, they'll do it today or tomorrow. And since Cheng is here and he's also in the list, maybe we can confirm him right now. + +Adam Wozney: So yeah. we have Cheng's face so I had Cheng listed as a TBD. I want to keep him as a backup plan. In case we can't get additional judges which I'm not too worried about on my I spoke with Shade and there's someone from secret talking with Archway and then I think there's a few other Cosmos projects that Put me in coach that are potential judges for this HACKATHON. I'm hoping to get them locked in Thursday, but if it does take a little bit longer for a few other judges to confirm, that's fine because the hackathons going on for almost two months. But right now we have Greg for sure. I still need to tell him he's doing it, but he's doing it whether he wants to or not and we can have Cheng as a backup plan. So that's where Cheng's at right now. + +Rodrigo Rochin: We have all those human validators team and… + +Adam Wozney: I'll let you know Cheng. + +Adam Wozney: Yes. and… + +Rodrigo Rochin: There are two,… + +Rodrigo Rochin: they're confirmed. + +Adam Wozney: Sarah from Yeah, so we have three judges basically confirm Greg Sarah,… + +Rodrigo Rochin: Yes, and + +Adam Wozney: the CEO of Loom Network and Vladi from Post Human Validator. So those are the three confirmed judges right now, but we're looking to add up to 10 because I think the more the merrier and it'll just be benchworm for searching. I think it'll be beneficial for promotion having additional cosmos projects, kind of represent and judge the submissions So that's kind of it for any questions on the HACKATHON and to learn more? Just head over to door hacks, you can read alongside + +Adam Wozney: Cool. + +Adam Wozney: Only a couple other updates unless you guys have other things. The first one is a Akash Insiders, so I've been fairly occupied helping put together what our events look like, and who's gonna be going, sponsorships all of that stuff for the past few weeks. So I haven't had too much time in reviewing insider applications but we do have about, eight or ten that have applied that I need to review and reach out to and hopefully on board one is actually someone on this call's brother. So I'm excited to onboard them. They're basically whitelisted, but there are other insiders that have applied. If you guys know or see anyone who's actively involved in other communities outside of Akash that you guys on this call, or potentially watching this call, I think would be good candidates to join our insiders community, basically, ambassadors for Have them applied, just head over to the website, click on the community page and they can apply there. I want to try to get more + +Adam Wozney: Insiders as a part of this community because the more insiders, we have the stronger. The community will be and the more support Akash ambassadors can give to one another. So if you guys find anyone or know of anyone of interest, feel free to introduce them to me or just send them to the website to apply, because I'm trying to review those applications in a weekly basis. But I am a little behind given all the event related and HACKATHON related activities going on. So, I wanted to mention that last thing is something that I actually thought up about a month ago and I put together a kind of rough agenda on but I want to host a caution cider appreciation day, I'm thinking it'll be some time in December makes sense the holiday season and basically the idea behind the Akash insider appreciation days to highlight all the contributions being caution ciders, Basically the cream of the crop of the Akash community have given to Akash because really at the end of the day, if if it wasn't for Ambassador Community, the insiders the + +Adam Wozney: Cards. They're just wouldn't be a cost. It would be me and Cheng just messaging each other on slack and nothing happening. So I want to host Akash Insider Appreciation Day. If anyone on this call wants to get involved in the planning. doing the contributing for that to send me a DM on discord. We have plenty of time. It's not until I've had roughly scheduled for December before everyone's gone for the holidays, but if anyone wants to get involved in that activity, I think it's really Highlight our community members. So feel free to message me and we can kind of put that together. Other than that That's it. I wanted to see if you guys had any questions and any feedback any ideas anything you guys want to highlight as a part of this particular call feel free to raise your hand. Otherwise we might be able to wrap up 30 minutes early which is cool. + +Adam Wozney: maybe not cool. But I think it's cool. I think we went through a lot today. So any questions feedback or anything at all? Feel free to raise your hand. + +Adam Wozney: Got one from Go ahead. Robert. + +00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Hey guys, how's everybody doing? Okay? I see you. + +Adam Wozney: Mm-hmm + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, Adam thanks for putting this open. Thank you all for joining so I didn't want to add to what you were saying, I want to add another topic and it's about the cash silly initiative. I've been able to discuss with George and with Oakley. And at the moment, it's just a street, designing, the document and designing the campaign we chat last week and yesterday, we made good progress shaping up the campaign, again, And if you want to get involved passed by the Sealy Working group, we have on a cache discord, that's what I wanted to say. Thank you Adam. + +Adam Wozney: For And the zili, that's the Web 3 kind of community tool, right? + +Robert Del Rey: That's right. It used to be called Crew 3. Exactly crude tree. That was its name and they rebrand to zili. + +Adam Wozney: Got it. Very cool. Yeah. I've totally missed that working group. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, sir. + +Adam Wozney: I just opened it up right now that you guys have made a lot of progress. That's super exciting. Yeah, I would love to get involved in zelix. I feel like there's a lot of particularly cosmos projects that are involved and it's just a great way to community build. So I think it's really exciting that I would say That's the first time that anyone inside of the community is kind of formed a group started building things out. And we're to the point where we could potentially launch this bad boy. So that's exciting. So if there's anything I can do to help with that, just tag me in that channel and I'll try to get involved when things come up. But yeah, other than that, keep going, that's exciting. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, thanks. + +Adam Wozney: Cool. And Andrew. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah, hi guys. So I had one question. I'll do so Robert about the zili. I was talking to post human validators since they're our judges now. one of them right on HACKATHON so they have their own daily page. I guess with lots of followers because they like big validator and they were willing a month before I've talked to them and they were willing to put our challenges into their page. To use their community to horse dancing on a cash. If this would be helpful, I could just connect you guys or as them to Contact us on the discord with this stuff. + +Robert Del Rey: That sounds great, I'm happy to use all this pusher, I can get. So if you can put me in contact with this person and we can talk more about it. That'd be awesome, man. Thank you. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah, yeah, sure will do and So I know it's not an hour budget for HACKATHON but some guilty funny near a pack region called a row to be a few days ago and said they are looking for projects and sponsors so the HACKATHON and in epic region and ask if we are willing to do that. I didn't reply yet because I don't know if we still like out of budget or we still should consider Should I like forward? Sure to you, something like that. I know. + +Adam Wozney: So this is something I'm seeing come up a little bit more frequently basically community members such as yourself saying here's an opportunity for Akash to get involved in this in-person event an XYZ region, it could be a HACKATHON, it could be a conference, could be whatever. Technically the events budget that was approved through the governance proposal early, this year, our specific to those particular events that were on it. However, we do have overage budget for events that we just didn't know about that. We want to get involved in. + +Adam Wozney: I think it's worth reviewing these opportunities and then kind of taking them case by case right now not guaranteeing that we can get involved but at least opening up for a discussion because at the end of the day it's not just me deciding, I want community members to be like this seems good. Let's move forward or This is no bueno, you know what I mean? So, I think when these types of opportunities come up taking a route similar to what George has done and the events channel, the working group channel, and discord posted in there, + +Adam Wozney: All the information you have about it and what you think the benefit to Akash would be and then the We all as a community can start to review it and be like, Yes, this sounds bad. And it seems like it's a good thing to move forward on. We can see if there's budget from the proposed budget that we have. That's been approved already to sponsor those types of events. But I think it's something that maybe going into 2024. We may want to put together a standalone budget for events that we aren't familiar with. So, basically, that would mean creating two governance proposals for events, one would be for events. We know we want to be at and having allocation for that. And then one would be just a bucket. Basically, x amount of finances set aside for these types of community opportunities where community members can highlight. Here's an event that we should sponsor participate, in whatever having the community decide kind of ad hoc whether or not, we should attend those events. And then the + +00:25:00 + +Adam Wozney: We take those funds and then put them into those events. You know what I mean? So for now I would just say throw it in the events discord channel and we can kind of review it from there. Does that make sense? + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Definitely totally. Thanks. + +Adam Wozney: Tight, for Any other questions concerns thoughts feedback? + +Adam Wozney: Nope, cool. Then I think that's going to be it for this next month community sig call. I don't know when it will happen because I believe I may be out of office for a little while. Thumb up some of you guys, probably know what that is but I won't say it. but if you guys are interested in potentially even hosting some of these communities like calls, I know handful of folks have actually offered to host insider office hours, which I'm super appreciative about. But if anyone from the community is interested in hosting these calls in the future, I think we can work with some OCL members to kind of put together an agenda and then have folks host these calls, because at the end of the day, this is your community, get involved. But other than that, I want to thank you guys for joining this. Month's community, Call the recording, should go live on the website soon and I'll see you in the Metaverse. So, you guys later, + +Andrew Gnatyuk: You guys, bye. Thanks for the + +Robert Del Rey: Stay safe, everybody. + +Max: You guys. Thanks. Adam. + +Adam Wozney: You guys. + +Julius Haus: Bye. + +Meeting ended after 00:26:56 👋 + + diff --git a/sig-design/meetings/010-2023-10-11.md b/sig-design/meetings/010-2023-10-11.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..649414ef --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-design/meetings/010-2023-10-11.md @@ -0,0 +1,175 @@ + +# Akash Network - Design Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #10 + + +## Agenda + +- Previous initiatives brought up by community members +- High-level overview of initiatives and past accomplishments +- Inviting community members to revive initiatives and draft proposals +- Updates on the Akash website +- Discussion on design assets and mascot +- Support for content creation and long-term content ideas +- Open discussion and sharing of ideas +- Presentation of a prototype for a mature Akash Console +- Feedback and suggestions on the prototype + + +## Meeting details + +- Date: October 12, 2023 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://lpgpnhvzo3h4wr6vc7qy5rggghi2qztpqj6krjuzlevcmcypf63q.arweave.net/W8z2nrl2z8tH1RfhjsTGMdGoZm-CfKimmVkqJgsPL7c) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + + +## Participants + +- Denis Lelic +- Tyler Wright +- Zach Horn + + +## Notes + +- Tyler talked about wg-akash-website and gave a recap of all of the work that Piyush and his team have been working on. +- Denis and Zach talked about some videos that are being made for how to deploy on Akash Console and Cloudmos. +- Denis and Zach have been working on videos for Automatic1111 and other AI models deployed on Akash Console and Cloudmos. +- Youtube videos will be embedded on the website. +- Overclock going to make a decision about how to display Console and Cloudmos for the Getting Started page. + +## Action Items + +- Zach will upload videos to Youtube. +- Zach will provide copy. +- Denis to work on Github images. + + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Tyler Wright: All… + +Zach Horn: All right. + +Tyler Wright: Welcome to Stick design monthly meeting number 10. During these design, special interest group meetings. The group talks about everything related to + +Tyler Wright: visual communications and just general communications on the akash network. This is a place where anybody that wants to contribute to developing content, potentially blogs, animations, graphic design. Again, anything design related or communications related, this is the group that's open to the public meets monthly. On Wednesdays there's a calendar invite that everybody can sign up for as well. As again the discord events are available to all inside discord and you can feel free to Add yourself as one to be notified about the SIG design. + +Tyler Wright: One of the working groups of the SIG design is monitoring. It's a working group for their cash website. There was a proposal that was accepted. I believe a little bit under a month ago for website, revamp to have an open source website. That's accomplishes all the things that folks in the sick, design, one from early, touch points for all those that are trying to interact with the cost network, I know a number of folks, whether it be through social media efforts of Zach, or just general awareness land on the Akash network websites. And again, being able to point people in the right direction, if they want to be contributor, or if they're a user, want to understand. What next steps. A website, revamp it will improve the communication and improve the design and ux, as well as again, allow for more open source contributions. + +Tyler Wright: Folks, like Denis and Zach have been leading efforts with Piyush and his team that have accepted the work to do The working group for the website to meet every Against the next meeting is Thursday. At 6:30 am Pacific time. So if anybody wants to support with anything relates to website again there's videos going on the website of fair amount of design or happening in Figma and elsewhere. Again Zach has been hands-on with Developing Copy on all the various pages. If anybody wants to contribute, you can feel good to the website, specifically feel free to join that working group session. But again, there's a number of other things happening in stick design. + +Tyler Wright: most recently, there's been a number of events that the Akash network has participated in that have called upon SIG design to deliver graphics for T-shirts graphics for + +Tyler Wright: Stickers graphics for banners that have gone in the back of displays at some of these events. shout out to Denis and other members of the team that have been leading those efforts. So again, there's been a fair amount of work that's been coming out of SIG design. There is a shop for folks that want to wear and show off their cost network, love the apparel and other products, believe the link for that is shop data cost.network. And again, it's being added to the footer, the website. So if you want to contribute to developing new swag or if you just want to get your own swag again, I think that's swag is being sold at cost, just for folks, to be able to have it, where it show it off and increase awareness. + +Tyler Wright: With that, I'll hand it over to Dennis, to see if there's anything else he wants to cover outside of a quick recap of again, all the things that SIG design has been covering and overseas as a SIG. + +Denis Lelic: Here, thanks, you pretty much cover, everything except the videos. We got a couple of video tutorials in the making me and Zach were working on automatic 1111 where screen recorded his deployment of the Sdxl, if I'm not mistaken and we got that. + +Denis Lelic: Almost ready. It's 90%. Ready? We used aivate voiceover for the tutorial because Democus doesn't speak English. I believe. + +Denis Lelic: Another one in the making is this one was done for console and we have another one in the making for cloudmose. + +00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: I think that's it. Zach, you do have any input for the videos because you were part of it. + +Zach Horn: Yeah. the one video we were working on is pretty close to done. I think the only thing it needs at this point is maybe a little bit more like filler copy just to fill in some of the gaps but otherwise I think it's just about there so that's on me to get you that copy Denis and then I guess we can throw that into 11 labs and finish it up just on that note we want to produce more of an intro outside of what you already have? Where are you thinking? We'll just do a simple interest and simple outro just clean up the audio and that ship it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, for the first one, I would keep it simple. And later on,… + +Zach Horn: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: when we add new stuff, we can play around with it and it's for sure, gonna get better and so on. So I would three three the treat these as an MVP video. + +Zach Horn: Yeah, makes sense. And these are gonna live on the website, And that section, we were looking at on the deploy page. + +Denis Lelic: I would actually have them on YouTube Akash network channel. And we can just link there. + +Zach Horn: Got it. Are they gonna be embedded? Or is it just gonna be like a link? + +Denis Lelic: We can about embed them or provide the link, not really sure what works better. Yes. I Okay. + +Tyler Wright: I vote in bed, if we can't. + +Zach Horn: I thought that as well. Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: I do think that they should live on YouTube and that should be where the source lives, but for the sake of website, I think we should look to have some more videos that are again hosted on YouTube that are embedded on the site. + +Denis Lelic: Okay. Yeah,… + +Zach Horn: Sounds good. + +Denis Lelic: I know. Arthur made a PR for this. product page where we present power modes and console, and I can just add Actually one sec. + +Denis Lelic: Previously, we had the capacity and the space to embed and now we're having two of those products on one page and are not really sure where to put I'll just show my screen so you know what I'm talking about? + +Denis Lelic: So previously we had Two pages, one for cloud models, and we had much more space to Whatever we wanted. And now we have one page where we present both of these products. And I'm not really sure if we can embed in this area here. + +Tyler Wright: Got you? Maybe this is something that we could talk about as an Overclock Labs, internal team and… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: then we can make a decision there. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I'll just leave it at that for now. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, So when we make the decision I'm just gonna let Arthur know about it and I mean, it's embedded so it's quite probably easy to implement. + +Denis Lelic: Okay Yeah. Did we cover everything for this page and the videos or do you want to add something else? + +Zach Horn: I think that's it for these. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, so, Zach, whenever you're ready, just let me know and I'll add The additional voice over you mentioned and Then we can publish it. I'm not really sure who's taking care of the YouTube channel. + +Zach Horn: That's me, so it's not just give me the file and… + +Denis Lelic: okay. + +Zach Horn: I'll get it uploaded. + +Denis Lelic: Okay Yeah, that's it. Regarding the videos. there are a couple of minor things happening, + +Denis Lelic: Github images, I know you've requested this couple of times, and every time I start working on it, something else pops in. But I got them almost ready. So hopefully, today tomorrow you'll get them. + +Denis Lelic: So we can update the Github pages. + +Tyler Wright: No rush. And yeah, if tomorrow is fine, tomorrow's time. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, cool. + +00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: That's about it. I think for this week, father, Tyler, you are I can fight The right word cohesive is that You mentioned pretty much everything. So, + +Denis Lelic: Just haven't quit quick. + +Tyler Wright: I'll take it. + +Denis Lelic: Look if we missed anything going through notes, but I think we could cover pretty much everything. So cool. + +Tyler Wright: Cool. + +Denis Lelic: We can wrap it up for today. A bit shorter meeting? No community participation. So yeah, we'll talk in the next one. and tomorrow, of course during the working group for the Akash website, Brandon Others. Join fish. George Arthur and so on. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Yeah, I think Robert's traveling. I think so. A lot of people are just moving around. So it's a little bit hectic this week, but I'm trying to get more people from the general community that want to contribute. So, All right. We'll figure it over time but much appreciate you both. I'll follow up with notes, the transcripts of the recording shortly. But again, if anybody wants to join the working group around the website, feel free to join tomorrow or feel free to reach out between meetings on specific things that you would like to add to stick design. Whether it be again, drawings, animations, videos, etc, There are bounties available to those, that want to support creating content that further creates awareness around the Akash network and… + +Denis Lelic: + +Tyler Wright: makes it easier for people to use it. So, Yeah, reach out to Zach myself or Denis if you have any more questions about potential bounties but again everyone have a great rest of the day and we'll certainly talk between meetings online. Thank you both. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you time. It's like, bye-bye. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you both. + +Zach Horn: Thanks guys. Thank you. + +Meeting ended after 00:12:11 👋 + + + + + diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/008-2023-08-10.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/008-2023-08-10.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..2db45ee0 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/008-2023-08-10.md @@ -0,0 +1,530 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #8 + +## Agenda +- Discussions on Piyush's team's interest in implementing and designing new changes and features on the Akash website +- Discussion on website GitHub Issues +- Presentation and Discussion + - Piyush presentation on the exploration of Akash network, issues faced, suggestions, and GitHub issues. + - Code Inspection and Cleaning + - Website Redesign and Improvements + + +## Participants +- Abdul Al Numan +- Cheng Wang +- Denis Lelic +- Emmanuel Arthur +- George Pro +- Piyush +- Safayet Adib +- Tyler Wright +- Zach Horn + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, August 10, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://s4xeygkmhljsn4hntjfy3iwouyso2x5doxxvvlhvyjfraudrv4aa.arweave.net/ly5MGUw60ybw7ZpLjaLOpiTtX6N171qs9cJLEFBxrwA) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Meeting Notes + + +### Piyush and HoomanHQ Team Introduction +- Piyush introduces himself as the founder and CEO of HoomanHQ. +- Describes the services offered by HoomanHQ +- Mentions their AI/ML products +- Highlights previous projects and grants from other Blockchain projects + +### Piyush presentation on the exploration of Akash network +- Piyush shares his screen begins discussing the [issue](https://github.com/akash-network/website/issues/218) they have raised on github related to the Akash network website. +- Piyush Mentions dividing the issue into multiple parts. +- Describes the parts: Code Inspection, Planning, Landing Page Improvement, Community page, and blog page design improvements +- Piyush references a Figma design file shared with the group on discord. + +### Code Inspection and Cleaning: +- Piyush discusses issues related to code inspection and cleaning. +- Piyush points out unused classes in the code. +- Piyush talks about maintaining a proper comment structure in the code. +- Piyush suggests adding guidelines for code contributors, including commenting practices. +- Arthur encourages collaboration with Piyush and his team. +- Arthur explains that the code is not in its optimal state and is being constantly improved +- Arthur mentions the transition to Tailwind CSS for future contributions. +- Tyler expresses interest in collaborating on setting guidelines and structures for contributors. +- Tyler asks about the estimated time and cost for code cleanup. +- Tyler proposes discussing the approval of the code inspection issue and bounty. +- Piyush added that they have focused on cleaning and improving code but can implement Tailwind CSS if needed + +### Website Redesign: + +- Piyush suggests canceling the [community page issue for now](https://github.com/akash-network/website/issues/214). +- Piyush mentions improvements made to the [landing page](https://github.com/akash-network/website/pull/211) regarding margin and responsiveness. +- Arthur suggests focusing the team's energy on areas that need improvement rather than redesigning pages that are already well-designed. +- Piyush clarifies that their work on the landing page was about improving design, not a complete redesign. +- Piyush presented a new blog page design and proposed prioritizing its implementation. + +### Discussions on Transition to Tailwind CSS: + +- The group discussed the need to migrate the code to Tailwind CSS. +- Denis expressed support for using Tailwind CSS for consistency across all products. +- The group made decision to structure everything in Tailwind CSS moving forward. +- George expressed concern about moving to Tailwind CSS and the potential impact on fast development. +- Piyush acknowledged that moving to Tailwind CSS might take time and stated that the team would work on making it faster. +- Arthur and George suggested continuing with Bootstrap temporarily to avoid delays. +- Tyler emphasized the importance of migrating to Tailwind CSS for consistency and future development. + +### Website Improvements: + +- Tyler suggests designing new pages or redesigning existing ones and quickly moving to implementation and testing +- Tyler emphasizes the need to ensure the blog is in a state ready for the mainnet upgrade launch. +- Tyler encourages creating an issue for the blog page design and implementation +- Denis discusses plans to create separate issues for different website improvements +- Denis mentions the addition of a "Get Started" button and proposes a decision tree for user guidance +- The importance of the ["Get Started" page](https://github.com/akash-network/website/issues/215) was emphasized, and it was suggested to seek community feedback before implementation. + +### Other Matters Discussed: + +- Piyush proposed using a public Notion page to track issues, contributors, and timelines. +- Tyler agreed with the idea of a Notion page but discussed the possibility of achieving similar tracking in GitHub. +- Tyler proposed weekly meetings on Thursdays at 6:30 am Pacific time. + +## Action Items: + +- Piyush to work on code inspection and cleaning +- Piyush to explore implementing Tailwind CSS for code improvements +- The team to prioritize implementing the proposed blog page design. +- Denis to create separate Github issues for different website improvements. +- Denis to finalize changes on the open issue and coordinate with Piyush for merging. +- Group to seek community feedback on the "Get Started" Page. +- Tyler will schedule weekly meetings on Thursdays at 6:30 am Pacific time. + +# **Transcript** + +_This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created._ + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody. To the most recent Akash website, working group session happening on the 10th of August 2023. + +Tyler Wright: During the working group for the ecosh website, folks from the community and various teams come together to talk about ways, to improve and advance. The posh Dot network website, make a better user experience for new and existing akash community members that are trying to learn more about a car. They're trying to deploy on a cash. I kind of become providers on the Validators etc. So, again, with the cost on network website being such a major touch point for a number of folks trying to interact and… + +Denis Lelic: Alright. + +Tyler Wright: understand their caution network. It's working group is essential in defining. What the next steps are. For the website and implementing changes in the web to the website. As we continue to again, improve that experience. + +Tyler Wright: I know that. During this session, we want to have it as an agenda item for Piyush and his team. I think online He goes by Ox, Bold Panther, but they have sent in an issue related to the home page and have had talks both in The discord working group channel as well as privately about the desire of pyerson his team to work on the network website and help again with implementing and designing a new changes, new features. + +Tyler Wright: So with that said, I do want to pass it over to Piyush. I know committed, some other action items on the agenda but I do want to pass over to Piyush. I would love and I apologize if I'm pronouncing your name wrong but I do want to have you talk a little bit about yourself, your team, the capabilities, and then again from there we can ask any questions and you all can ask any questions about designs implementation. Etc. Dennis, is that sound like a good agenda? + +Denis Lelic: Sounds good. I would only add after piyush. Finishes his part, we can go through the rest of the issues that we might have to tackle in the near future. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. all right, + +Piyush: Okay, thank you so much, Tyler and Danish for such a warm, welcome and introduction. Before moving forward, I would like to introduce myself and the team members that are in the meeting. So I'm piyush found in CEO of Women's Installer. We basically runs this company as a team to provide services related to design, website development, Workshe services, to economics, etc. We also build a products related to Aiml, but that is not related to the service industry. We build our own products In past I found it some of the great projects in the matter was industry. Got some excellent grants from Blockchain. such as near Portugal and all + +Piyush: So this was a little introduction of myself and professionally, I'm a computer science engineer. I've just graduated from college two to three months back and after that, I just started this company and running it very wisely. So today as India is very clear, we would like to explain what we have explored about Akash network but issues, we have faced while building on Akash network website and how that can be improved a little bit of suggestions and also the issues that we have raised in the github issues. So if you guys love, can I present my screen? + +Tyler Wright: Absolutely. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Piyush: Is my screen visible. + +Tyler Wright: Yes. + +Piyush: Right. So, before starting with the + +00:05:00 + +Piyush: Thing. And this is the issue that released which was basically overall structure that we have found on the website that we proposed. But ultimately we got the guidance from the leaders such as Denis and Tyler to Part, this issue separately. So we could have a great track of timeline as well as budget. So in this issue, we raised four to five parts. the Code Inspection and Planning landing Page Improvement Community page and blog designing block page design improvements. As you can see, + +Piyush: And we have also designed the thing in the figma file that I did shared with the team in the discord as well. This was the ultimate design file that we did on basically related to the existing page. But as I can see Denis has taste a lot of issues recently on the GitHub, which makes it very clear how we should move forward with the token, paste design. So before using this issues, as we are very new, we have just walked on the landing page till now. So before speaking about the landing page, I would like to speak about the issue that Denis raised about code inspection cleaning. This was one of the issues that we used in in our issue. So, here are Denis. + +Piyush: Limits here then give me two minutes, okay? + +Tyler Wright: No. + +Tyler Wright: I think while we wait for Piyush. Again, you can kind of track these issues inside of the website repo in the Akash Network organization, that's where everything related to the website lives again, all in one clean place. + +Tyler Wright: Piyushing the same. Also submitted a PR that I believe is Trackable PR number two, 11. I'll + +Tyler Wright: The teammates and changes to the website landing page. + +Tyler Wright: If anybody has any issues that they want to talk about maybe that come out of meetings or come out of just basic audit of the website, please feel free to throw those issues inside. Again, the cost network website, repo on those issue column, and there's a template that folks can fill out. And then, we could talk about these issues in the weekly cost website, working group sessions, And then decide on implementation path to sign on Design Path copy. If there needs to be any copy… + +Piyush: He? + +Tyler Wright: if it's a new page or updating copy and then again continue to move forward from there. + +Piyush: So, sorry for the disturbance guys are so. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. + +Piyush: So this is the issue That was a part of The whole issues it was related to the code inspection and cleaning, and Denis are some of the questions in this issues and accordingly. We created a draft explaining the issues here, So there were some points mentioned there are classes which are being used in the code but there is no style that exist, basically behind that class which means that class is unused and is not necessary in the code. + +Piyush: And second issue is this inline CSS files. We have found some places where the class and inline CSS files are being used which is considered not being the best practice. Because when a new developers comes and he's observing, let's say a component and he finds some of the CSS file in the Global CSS base CSS folder all file and some of the CSS file in line. what will create? It will create some confusions. It might create some confusion to the developer who is developing. And secondly, we find that the important tag is used, overused in the code This should be minimized. This is because using hornet, call code means, we are overriding the existing CSS files and trying to implement or push. + +Piyush: Something that we want to be displayed and it's called as a temporary solution. What issue that it can create is Let's say I'm a new developer and I want to build on a cache and if I find the important egg is used, if I try to change the CSS file, let's say I change the CSS file. what it will do is the CSS file that is behind the scene which important tag was all writing. It will create a conflict, it might create a conflict and make Creator can consequences on the overall design, and then we find the issue related to the the media query, you seconds + +00:10:00 + +Piyush: I can explain from here. So we find that there are some places where the decimals are used, which means what happens is, media queries are mostly used to keep the design, highly responsive. we through media queries, we try to predict effectively like how the website should be displayed in a particular. Let's say X is screen size. But here, what we found is there are some decimals used which should not be used because there are different types of screens, right. We have to adjust the things. According I will share this draft and dropping this drop in the chat. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Let me pause for one second. Arthur. Did you have a question or comment as your hand raised? + +Tyler Wright: Arthur, you might be a mute if you're talking. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, maybe I can't really hear you. So if you want to type it in the chat you can again I think your mic is on mute. + +Emmanuel Arthur: I sorry. … + +Tyler Wright: They're fine. + +Emmanuel Arthur: there's something that I want to comment about. It could be that. Pronounce is I don't know if I mentioned your name correctly. Currently what's your observing, isn't it? The code is not in an optimistic and it's important to know that this is the final question. You work out throughout the development process, I've been contemplating to transition the parent CSS to transition the Hood's house to kill means. Yes. + +Emmanuel Arthur: For brother contributions. And recently, Denis also mentioned to me. That naturally, we would like to move the code base to them parents. And I think that was the best episode, the code that you are seeing now. It's not the final result as I'm currently constantly working on changing the bootstrap. So, right now, all this are moving to bootstrap and those scss files are not needed if you want more people to contribute and if we want to move the development faster, so we decided to move the code to Parents CSS. + +Emmanuel Arthur: So the code that you are seeing now is not in the optimal state, I would say. But in the future or within some next week or something, we will just published a new code. This is just for the frontend side and I'm the only one working on it. So I just missed some few changes but the code would be optimized maybe in the week coming or so. So it's good to see you guys quite bringing out this issues and I'm happy to collaborate with you guys on how best we can contribute to improve this code base and work on other feature issues. Yes. So I'll be glad to… + +Piyush: Yes. Yeah. That's + +Emmanuel Arthur: the day. I'll be glad to see how they could clean out to go and how you guys will set up the bar. For other developers who are willing to contribute in the future,… + +Piyush: Yeah, I agree. + +Emmanuel Arthur: you guys, welcome and I said that maybe we can move since you have been any cleanup and you want to go for? Maybe. Yeah. You want to go for other? Highlights. I suggest that since we are planning to move to parents CSS For easy, abduction. I suggest that you guys will move to parents yesterday so that the development will be much more easier. Maybe when you take one for you,… + +Piyush: Yep. + +Emmanuel Arthur: just move the whole far and you don't have to navigate to other starships. You don't have to understand for development. + +Piyush: Yep. + +Emmanuel Arthur: We can just do all the development in the Indus So the code that you are observing. Now, it's not the final food that we are willing to use it. For development. this is just we are constantly improving it as you guys coming soon. + +Piyush: Yep, So yeah, that's a great point. Although we will definitely be collaborating. So these are some of the general issues that we are pointing out. And there are some guidelines that also needs to be defined from now onwards because it's just a suggestion from our side. As I can see. Till now what Akash was doing is there was a proper guideline folder designers but when it comes to the design but when it comes to the development, there is on the one guideline it is to check the pages, paid on Google it is scoring hundred or not. So, but if you ask me generally, it's going 100 plus 100% is a good move, can be achieved, but when it comes to the clean code, right? How there are some components that we have found the code reputations. I agree. it's not a final product. We will definitely be collaborating. That's why we are coming into play and we will definitely be called a building to keep it easier for the new developers. we found the + +00:15:00 + +Piyush: And structure is also not maintained properly in the code. And what does I mean by comment structures means If I'm a new bike Let's say I'm a new bike and I just open the akash code in My vs. Code extension. let's say there are five components on the landing page, we should have a proper comment structure like This is component. A, let's say we can call it a header, then component, be community page and the corresponding CSS file should be maintained through proper classes that it directing to the CSS folder. We define the proper CSS files, where we also maintain the proper command. + +Piyush: For example, let's say there is a footer. So we should maintain the proper commands and we should also follow the proper UX practices or What should I say, the proper code coding practices. So I think we can add this as a community. We can add this guideline. Also, whenever someone is creating a PR, we should always tell them, mention proper comments in the code, maintain high quality structure besides all testing the hundred percent score on Google Page state. So this is this doctor I will copy paste in the code inspection and cleaning issue that Denis says. So it has some screenshots as well that you can go through. If anyone has questions, you guys can point it out to us and also We found one issues like we have seen. We saw that in the global CSS file. We saw there are + +Piyush: CSS attached to the tags H2S th4 at 6. what issues that it can arise for the future or even the present contributors let's say H1 tag is basically used for maintaining the size of the text which similarly as to these are very common tags. + +Piyush: And let's say we have a design with five components, right? In design, one we are using H1 tag in design 2. We are using actual as to tag but the design positions are little bit different. what will happen is, if H1 tag is used in five components and we are not maintaining the components CSS file through classes but instead of x that CSS, that is attached, the tag will get applied to the components and it will affect the design and also the responsive and the media queries are very important when it comes to the responsiveness. this is the small example that we did. So our agenda is very clear and also the last thing that we pointed out in code, inspection cleaning is variables, + +Piyush: I can see there were variables that were there from the start only So it was little hard to maintain the variable things. I agree in that and what we will do be doing is when it comes to the variables we have to define what variables component using + +Piyush: is used is for what, So we found some of the components where there are lots of variables, but as a developer, if I say, it's not that clear, where the variable is getting used. If the proper comment is getting me. If we can maintain the proper command structure, we can easily say this, code belongs to this, and if I change this, this is what it will happen. and lastly, the conclusion is why this is important. It's because we want to maintain a long-term sustainability for the car and as we all know that the website is a central structure for any of the organization + +Piyush: and as it's a community initiative, we have to maintain it because if the new contributors comes, it will make it harder. We do not maintain for them to understand What code is getting used for the proper command structure, and the proper high quality practices. So this was something through code inspection cleaning. We were also be looking forward to establish these guidelines with the leaders, so we can have a proper smooth process going forward. so this was related to the code inspection and cleaning that there is and this was the proper whole issues that it is in this as I can see, some of the issues that we can cancel because + +00:20:00 + +Piyush: The community pays issue can be canceled for now because as I can see, Denis raised the community-based issues in which it was a broader part of something that we want to achieve. So we all can plan things accordingly for the community base. Similarly, for the token page we can do as a block page. So as the block is lacks, There is no designer block, basic structure. It was also raised by the Arthur. It would be nice if you can contribute to the block page if you want. And also We improve the landing page paddings. We saw there were a lot of issues when it comes to the margin and proper responsiveness. When we were opening the previous website in the tablet versions, it was creating it was getting Compressed the container was getting too little as compared to the screen size. So in the medium device is also. So we saw this and we improved, + +Piyush: Whole landing page accordingly. Firstly, what we did is we created the design and the figma This is our process and this is how we do. So what we do is we create a design even if the image is provided the try to keep that thing in a sigma so we can have a proper structure called defining in the binding and margin. So both mobile and extra versions are being created here. So as you can see, we created things accordingly and then we implemented it on the website of the landing page. And this is how it is looking right now. And there are some issues that then it's pointed out. So we will fix them. And I would now want to transfer it to Tyler, and it's over. And you are ask some questions and so, yeah, we will continue recording. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much for that, explanation of the code cleaning. And then again, that you all put in PR 2111, which is in the chat. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I know that you've been putting all of the work Inside the working group of Prakash website and letting folks know the changes that you're making, I really do appreciate that in terms of the code cleaning and the kind of structuring, as they continue to add more contributors. I would love to collaborate with you and set some guidelines and structures for what's expected of folks that are going to be contributing to the website. So that's something that we would love to again collaborate on work on together and add to GitHub. So everybody moving forward is working under the same sort of structures and guidelines. I think that makes a lot of sense. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I know that you all have a number of changes that you have want to make. do you have An understanding of how many hours the code cleanup and this first couple of phases, how long that will take you and how much you take that'll cost so that we Start to figure out what a budget looks like and how we can activate you as a team. And frankly, I'm a separate note. I know that you mentioned at the top of this that you all are working on an AI ML project. I know that's not related to this but I know that I would love to learn more about that because I know that's something that Akash is really leaning into and obviously with the main net upgrade coming up in GPUs being accessible on the Akash network,… + +Piyush: Yep. + +Tyler Wright: I would love to hear more about that kind of project, but that could be a separate conversation. + +Piyush: Yep, So the IML project is kind of something related to the infrastructure and tooling that our cost can adopt in a better way. Because if I give you a general structure, let's say we have a documentation, So it's all text but the documentation cannot answer, All the custom issues that the user space or the developer space, So On a general note, what we will be building as I think first check current cooling kind of thing that can resolve any kind of issues of the community. It can be related to the coding. It can be deleted to understand it. what's going on in the cars? kind of a central hub for the cost network. So that's all. I just want to say in this mate and I would love to have a separate meet for that with you. whenever you are free, + +Piyush: So that's what I was speaking and the code inspection cleaning. As you said, Yeah, it's very much needed. So we will definitely be giving our suggestions to stretch out the guidelines because writing proper code is very important as I suggested because when it comes to long-term sustainability, as more developers will come in, they will try to understand what's going on in the code. So if the code is not properly maintains who comments and through proper structures, it might take them a lot of time to understand what's going on and it will create a resistance for more number of contributors. And as the long-term visions suggest we should be giving out the guidelines. and also + +00:25:00 + +Piyush: I would love if we can maintain a design file as well and I know, Denis is maintaining everything related to the design, so as I suggested last time, we should maintain a property design file. So we can have a proper margin and padding as a developers, what will happen is we have to define the Dextrope as well as mobile version and rest we can take care of from the code, but if Dextrocon mobile version design is clear. For example, if I show you + +Piyush: This is So this is the page. The design that we did. And here we can measure the margins and all. So this is the blog page design that we did. And This is the mobile version of this blog page. So these little difference, So this cannot be predicted. So, It will be better if we can maintain our design file with desktop and mobile version. So for developers, it will be easier to implement the exact structure. So, yeah, that's what I want to say for now. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, excellent. + +Tyler Wright: on this group, I would like to. Talk about moving forward with the code inspection. I know that Arthur is working on demand page. I know that again. Tyson is team, I put an issue that is being reviewed and I think we'll talk about merging sometimes soon as an indicator of the work that they are capable of. Obviously walking us through their process and what they want to add to the working group they've done. So, on this call, I would love to + +Tyler Wright: Talking this call about approving the code inspection issue and bounty and getting a timeline on when that could be implemented, does anyone have any thoughts or objection to Pierson's team working on code inspection and implementing changes where they see fit? + +Tyler Wright: Prices are a dollar amount in that bounty. I'll go ahead. Arthur. + +Emmanuel Arthur: Actually with the coding inspection and cleaning, as they have issued that they have read about the coding inspection area. When you go to your first issues that they will regarding the whole landing page, improving the whole land into it and everything. And you shouldn't presentation. It seems, they have two issues regarding code, especially and clean up. + +Piyush: Okay, so I can see you are talking about the redesigning of the learning page. So first of all, I want to point out, give me two minutes, let me open our issues. + +Piyush: First I want to point out like we have never said,… + +Emmanuel Arthur: M. + +Piyush: We are going to redesign the landing page. We said improving the design of the landing page and accordingly. What we did is we created a sigma file and implemented the things As you can see on the website why we did this is first of all, this is done by us. + +Emmanuel Arthur: M. + +Piyush: We have not changed anything, we are just changed the structure and the little improvements, therefore, very important for the website that we did. So I just want to make this clear that we have now. We are not saying that We are going to redesign the whole landing page. So this was to put out to improve the landing page. why we did this is there were some issues related to padding and margins. even if we open this, Wait Cantones. + +00:30:00 + +Piyush: So in this screen, as you can see what happens is here, the block part gets scattered, so the margin and padding were not clear and we were very skeptical. there is a scope of improving a little bit of things that can make a lot of great things happen. So, we have expand as you can see in this, and as you can see this, that we improved. So this was related to the improvement that we paste. It was never related to the redesigning, so we accordingly improved the things. As you can see, we little bit improve the desire as well. The animations we implemented, we will remove that because I think as for Denis, that is not in the scope of the design. So This is what we implemented as I'm sharing the link. This is how it looks like. + +Piyush: So, as you said, we should not waste time. It was Not a part of giving a lot, but it was part of proving us as a team like what we can do. And so yeah, this was related to improving The padding marching the responsiveness, and to showcase our skills. And in implement the missing components, like the footer connect with community and improve header, a little bit. So yeah, that's all we wanted to. Saying that. So if you have got any more question, + +Emmanuel Arthur: + +Emmanuel Arthur: I'm at that, that's And that's really a good contribution to drive Arthur's development and another level. And there's one thing that I would ADD regarding the taking page, Denis designed the cooking page, not to learn to win. I transform the design. It's good. Actually regarding the taking page. I didn't see anything. Wrong with the design that Denis built. + +Piyush: No, I am not. + +Piyush: I just said, in the code structure we just saw the scope of little bit of margin and padding and we accordingly implemented. So it was all Denis who were guiding us. So I'm not saying that it was a bad design. I'm just saying there was a little bit of scope that we thought, it can be improved and we did. So and Denis was the one who was guiding us so far. And I think I joined on. If talk I got in the group, I like fifth of July like us. I asked questions How can we contribute and you might look aside website group and accordingly. I try to understand it was old and it's who I did us and we saw a little bit of chance of improvements and as a community member we just did our part. So it was not at all saying the design was bad or something. + +Emmanuel Arthur: but + +Emmanuel Arthur: I tell you didn't get my point. I wasn't seeing. The design was bad and you guys want to improve it. I was seeing the taking place design was done not too long ago,… + +Piyush: He? + +Emmanuel Arthur: and I'm actually referring to the cooking page design that Taking place design was done not too long ago when we implemented and actually, the technically designed us some implementing, I see that the complete Denis is more impressive and actually gives every information that I need that page. And is that? instead of redesigning and improving that taking page, in the team things, if they didn't believe that taking page would like to improve then I guess that would be the best happened… + +Piyush: Yep. + +Emmanuel Arthur: but I don't think the thing has raised any issue about it. did taking business to improve so probably I was sudden that maybe when we are improving the other pages or we channel the energy to other places that become weapon. + +Tyler Wright: I think George had his hand up before, Dennis, so George you go and then we'll have Denis follow up. + +Denis Lelic: I think George just finished. So + +George Pro: I'll actually speak about the code is presentation. I had a mentioned that. Denis said They want to rewrite everything. He came in CSS. So I was asking if the team is going to kind of write everything in TV, CSS audio just going to do cleaning and everything, just cleaning and then we're writing this code or they're going to put it in clearance. Yes. + +Piyush: So if you ask us about the learning page, we have done the cleaning part and also improve the whole series file. we will definitely take care of the tailwind CSS. If you guys want us. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Denis. Go ahead. Did you ever hand up? + +00:35:00 + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. Thanks everyone. Loved the discussion. That's going on. Love that this is a growing group. so, Also, I have to give appreciation to Piyush and his team for the first contribution. And as we talk, I talked. In the previous days I think starting off with a separate issue for code, expansion is going to be a good one. I know Greg mentioned a couple of times like some issues regarding the code. So when this issue is prepared, I'm going to copy all of the stuff you've mentioned and sharing in the doc put it in the Github and share with Greg as well. And to see if that + +Denis Lelic: Thing is going to ve. His concerns. And also I got to give I know, Greg George mentioned I did not get the website. I started contributing later just the rest of the crew here. but as you'll see in the issues posted today, for the last couple of weeks I've been gathering feedback from different core team members, and Stuff. They're missing the one I have. On the website, things they want to improve. So there was a lot of conversation going on in the background and + +Denis Lelic: there was going to be some changes. I'm trying to capture everything in a separate issue. For each of the topics today. I just posted one for the community page redesign and it's the issue. Number two, one, four. So, if you have a look, it looks like we have + +Denis Lelic: The community page getting overcrowded with different topics and it's a key just keeps getting bigger and bigger and I'm afraid there's gonna be a big information overload happening over there. So in the last couple of days I was working and talking with bars and Different team members where they said they want to add new things and I propose a solution where with splits, the community section into two parts, one would focus Mostly around the community. + +Denis Lelic: So about akash insiders events community contributions, cash education. So pure community stuff and on the other hand, I don't have a name for it. I just called it Network Vision and Development and we could have two sections. They are one with focus on the general information for sh and network activity stats pricing stuff like that. I'm sure that's gonna happen quite soon. I know Boss is working on some sort of a presentation and we would like to include that on the website. So I'm just making some space and real estate to put all of those things there. + +Denis Lelic: And on the other side, also part of the vision a network vision and development. There's product strategy, community groups, roadmap current projects, there was several times people ask me Where can I find the current projects that are ongoing at the moment? And honestly at the moment they're quite buried into community and there's a drop down under community groups and you have to kind of look through it. So having that more visual and accessible might increase, our change chances of people getting involved in different working groups, projects six, Yeah. So that was one thing on the And another issue get started. + +Denis Lelic: also a concern for brought up by some community members that a button get started is kind of Not doing justice for other. Projects that are currently On akash such as Prater and Cloud Nose. But At the end of the day there's so many ways to get started on a cash either. You can become a provider, you can deploy your own app and you can join the community. Just hang around. You can read about it in the docs. + +00:40:00 + +Denis Lelic: So totally depends what the user wants, but on our hand, we have to kind of guide the user. + +Denis Lelic: I think having some sort of a decision tree. for example, if you want to deploy here options for deployment, if you want to become a provider here at options, and also there's in this issue. And thanks Piyush for sharing your screen. I just realized I'm not so + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, there are also a couple of options nothing here is finished, so it's always open for the debate. I know Piyush mentioned the mobile version and stuff like that. At this point, I would encourage everyone just to Easy Share Our desktop version of your idea. Don't need to go into too much depth, so we can discuss it and stuff like that. So yeah, there's gonna be a couple of more issues coming up, hopefully today and tomorrow. Based on the cover conversations, I had with different community members. + +Denis Lelic: Different team members. So I'm just trying to capture all of that into an issue form, an argument for the change and provide a solution and based on that issue and everything that's in it, we can start a discussion. everyone is welcome to put their feedback in and I'm just looking forward to making a past or progress with the changes. So it took a certain time to get used to the whole thing like open sourcing and different community members coming leaving and it took me as well, sometime to + +Denis Lelic: Get in touch with different community members to gather feedback what they think about it. Also there's some feedback on the messaging Zach I'll share that as well. But yeah. That's it from my side and if she issues I've created today, Yeah, I go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: As Denis has mentioned, I really like the conversation that's happening here. I think they were at the point where again we can really start to or continue momentum. I know that Arthur being one of the first contributors from the community to + +Tyler Wright: support developing new pages that were live on the website. We really appreciate that. And now we have continued momentum to again, continue playing tuning the structure, and work, significantly faster. I know that some of these pages are in discussion. I would like to propose we change a cadence of the working group of cost website instead of weekly, we do the weekly meetings, what I would like to happen over next couple of weeks is as Denis and how you should mentioned. We want to keep one figma file. We want to design new pages for that new or redesign pages based upon again, the tailwind or whatever structure we decide on as a group and then I would like to move faster in talking about those designs as a group making modifications to do designs and then moving and implementation test. + +Tyler Wright: Process where we can leverage Piyush and his team and we can leverage Arthur to implement these designs in the short term. And obviously, we agreed to a bounties at that point, to make sure that folks are getting properly paid for their efforts. And I want to make those decisions much faster than I get weekly In the short term. I know that as we move towards the main, net upgrade launch. I'm of the belief that the blog needs to be in a state that when we put out again, a mainnet method on that blog that potentially gets picked up by many media outlets, our blog is in the state that we feel comfortable in. So I believe that is the most pressing item right now because that may end up great to be coming in two weeks. So, at that blog design is anywhere near, + +00:45:00 + +Tyler Wright: A state where we can talk about. Again, I know that the demand page is something that Arthur's working on and There's already about here around so I know Art Arthur's working on that page specifically that needs to be implemented. Maybe we could create an issue for the blog page and have a final design that we can either talk about today. But the last 10 minutes or talk about async and have somebody start to implement that potentially as soon as next week and then again, I would like to approve or talk about what the group are proving ability around the 30 or 40 hours for the + +Tyler Wright: code inspection. Once that issue has been recreated so that we can just continue to push forward and move forward with those efforts. + +Piyush: + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead. + +Piyush: So yeah that. So as I got to know assembly, so we have to migrate the code completely to tell till now what we did is when we were coding on the block on the landing page, we improved the CSS files in the current structures and wherever possible, we have done, the margin and padding issues. Also right now, if you visit out All the landing page that there is highly responsive it adjusts to any of the designs with proper design and margin problems. But when it comes to code inspections and cleaning, if you guys want us to migrate the code to tell when CSS. So we would like to say here, that will take a little more time as compared to what we have, put it in our issues. So accordingly, I would like after a discussions as a team according in the time + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, did you mention you would like to move to Tailwind? So you're saying, leave. + +Piyush: I just want to know from. + +Tyler Wright: but, + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I was about,… + +Piyush: where, + +Denis Lelic: I was about to say, Suggesting we leave the bootstrap thing behind us and use Tailwind. + +Piyush: Yeah, so I just got to know that recently from Arthur and George that we are moving to the wind. So when we will be doing the code inspection and cleaning if The team wants us to convert the things all this files to tell and as well, while doing the board inspections and cleaning with proper command structure, then it will take more time than we have put out in our issues and accordingly as a team. We will update the timing in the issues. If you guys want us to move the things to tell when CSS. + +Tyler Wright: I think, first of all players, I think that makes clear sense to me. I think Arthur and George. We're making a suggestion on doing that, which I think is a good suggest. I think Denis to talk about that. I would like to make a firm decision on that with this group. I think we have enough stakeholders here. Do we want to structure, everything and tell? What does anyone have any objections to, tailwind css? + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead, Denis. + +Denis Lelic: I don't have an objection but I know Greg likes tailwinds and we're moving with the rest of the products. On tailwind. So just having this consistency across Different touch points such as website and console. And so on having the same library is gonna be helpful and it's gonna bring the sense of connectivity between all of those touch points. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. So I think that's a,… + +Piyush: Next. + +Tyler Wright: that's a firm decision. Has been made by a number of stakeholders across their cost community. That we're going to structure everything in tailwind. CSS, moving forward and that'll be one of the again, guidelines for any new developers that are going to be contributing to the website that they have to follow that structure. I know that again, it sounds like Denis has an action item of it. Sounds like cleaning up this issue or maybe making a new issue based upon the conversations we've had today. And then piyushen team will readjust their hours for the cold clean based upon knowing that we have to make some changes and update everything to tailwind. Does that sound accurate Cool. + +Piyush: And also I want more serations as the things as we all know, the things are getting tracked in Discord Server and on the Github issues page, I think we should also make an option page where we can have a public notion page where let's say there is issue one on which we are working and then there is a shibu on Abdul is working. So it will keep track of things and we should also define the proper timeline before this, it will be completed. So as a contributors, we will try to give the Proper or the accurate timelines. But sometimes has been + +00:50:00 + +Piyush: All are doing as a contribute as we all are contributing. So some contributors might face relay so that is a sub people, but we can have a guidelines in the notion as well because it may become hard go to issue issue different issues and see who is working on what is working on? What? So in a week if you guys want us we can structure notion page so it will be easier to drag things. It will not take much time, I think it's not more than late. It will be little easier to things like… + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Piyush: if we track things from notion instead of in this world. And so what will happen is we can have in announcement, the notion base. So you just contract this, only issue this lives working on this issue, the size of one. So yeah, accordingly, we can do that. + +Tyler Wright: I like using notion and an overclock uses notion internally. so I'm a fan of that tool. I wonder And we could talk about this a little bit more, but I wonder if we can't do all the things that you're trying to do and just github, I know that it should not living discord discourse. Should just be for conversation and just tracking things in Github. But in terms of tracking timelines, for specific issues and some of those other things, again I'm not against I think, notions is a great tool. I just wonder how many folks from the community may access it versus just looking github and maybe we can do a better job of assigning issues to individuals and then having into the template to track hours and progress towards that ours. But again, that's something that we can talk about offline. Highest. I think it's a great idea. Go ahead, George + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: George, you might be on mute. + +George Pro: Yeah. Yeah, I was still going to talk about the TV. I asked about the terrorists here, but I'm also thinking they are some downside concern using TV series, Is it right now? We are kind of looking for fast development and if new pages are coming, then we have to wait for the team to Do a finish with a team in CSS before new development can go. And from my little understanding, I know about development, I know that is going to take a lot of time and then this means that development on other page is going to delay. + +George Pro: So if we kind of want to move forward then I think we have to leave the website on bootstrap and then continue development and waiting for long time for the team to finish with the terrain before other pages can be added because right now, if someone want to build a page and you're going to use bootstrap, you can't do that because we are waiting for the other team to finish with tearing before you can use tearing as To this my small understanding grievance I have about moving to doing and I don't know how the whole team here, kind of understand the whole thing and… + +Piyush: Yeah, I agree. + +George Pro: how to go. + +Piyush: Yeah, I live in George, if we move forward with the television, it can be a little bit of process. There is one solution if we really want to move forward with the tailwind. What we can do is we can start to development in parallel and get in sync, in the parallel space, they two works going on. So as we catch up, the thing, can be implemented into the official website. So this is how that can be done, but as I agree with George, we move forward with the telvin, so the code inspection filling part might take little bit of time if we convert the whole CSS into development, but we will find ways to make it faster and then only give the right timelines after as a team can have internal discussions with my team. So + +Piyush: That's all I just want to say I agree with George. it might take a little time and my delay other pages development. + +Emmanuel Arthur: And I tell I would like to add one thing regarding the website that we have now we have more than in check. + +Tyler Wright: Absolutely. + +Emmanuel Arthur: We have more than eight pages on the website and I do agree changing everything to pay me CSS. Now will cause much more time and we can't start any development unless they finished their migration. So maybe we can just continue to strap for now. Yes, that's what that would happen. + +00:55:00 + +Tyler Wright: I might push back on that a little bit because I hear what you're saying, but I think as Denis as talked, about developing a number of new pages where the burden is just gonna grow over time. I think that I would love and I know that we're running upon time, I'm going to have his action item to add another meeting. Does this time work for everybody that we can do Thursdays around this time? 6:30, am Pacific, is this work for you piyush on a Thursday just for you Arthur and George. + +Tyler Wright: It looks like it does so I'll start to set up weeklies on Thursday at this time for the Akash website but I would love for us again to make decisions on this prior. It's time of the belief that we should continue trying to move the eight pages over to tailwind to figure out and… + +Piyush: Yep. + +Tyler Wright: determine after prices talk to a team internally. What that effort will look like from a time perspective. And the only page that I think is a higher priority that we might have to re migrate later if we decide to develop it now is the blog page. go ahead. + +Piyush: So, I just speaking about the block page, if Denis has made the design, we can implement that, but if the blockage design is not ready. So we have structured some of the design for the block page that you guys can look after. So, this is how the + +Piyush: So this is how the current block looks like and upheld. We were observing the block base Also, there's not much CSS involved of course because there is no design. So we designed after a little bit of brainstorm with the team. So this is how the next version will look like. As you can see, on the screen, it will be much easier if I can open the prototype, + +Piyush: I think there is some Internet we should so yeah, I'm explaining on the big mall only. So this is how the block looks like. If you say it's a Dexter version, this will have and then we have a cards. And then here we will have a tag and we will have additional functionality thought by you. And this is the Dexter version of and then we created a mobile version. + +Piyush: So this is how the mobile version look like. So we will have a heading and all the text will be in the horizontal row which will be scrollable. Then we will have a sort by here. Then this is the design of the card that will look like this. Once the user click on this card, they will be taken to this page, which is basically a blog description. And then we have a related post and put as already implemented on the landing page. So we will just make some changes I just suggested by Denis, so if you guys are fine, We can move forward with this design of the block page. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think this looks good. I would love to continue to track this over the next day or so. If we can prioritize, again this blog page implementation, if anybody on after this call piyush, while you guys are working, while you as a team are trying to figure out the code cleanup, can you put any information related to the blog In discord. And then I'll have Denis, make a new issue around the blog page, and we can have a finalized design in there, and then we could just put again, a bounce here around that. And we can just estimate hours over next couple of days. Again, that's a page that if I'm permits, we would love to live at some point in middle next week, if possible. + +Piyush: Yes, just say I will definitely take care of this, we get assigned. So that's not an issue. we just want all the community members to come forward and I think we will be able to sort of the things within we get on meeting for next few weeks. So we can create a momentum altogether as a community members. So yeah. And looking for + +01:00:00 + +Tyler Wright: So am I. I know we're a little bit over on time. I really appreciate everyone taking extra time. again, I would ask if anybody has any other questions or comments, let's throw them in discord. I know that everyone here is in discord and is pretty active. So feel free to continue some of these conversations discord. I'm going to add a meeting again. Starting next for weekly, Thursday meetings is 6:30, am Pacific time. And again, if we can track, if Patience,… + +Piyush: He? + +Tyler Wright: team can track work, around the code, clean up. I know, Dennis has some action items there as well. And then if we can really track on what the next steps are, for the blog on design and then implementation as a group. I really love to track there. So I'd much appreciate everyone's time and… + +Piyush: He? + +Tyler Wright: discussion today. It's been a Great conversation. Thank you again Arthur for your initial contributions and being The original, the OG. And again, highest Thank you for participating in the discord for coming to working group meetings and special interest group meetings and to your team for showing an interest. It's really,… + +Piyush: E. + +Tyler Wright: really excited for what we got going on the future and piyush. I'm gonna set up some time for you and I to have a one-on-one to talk about the AI ML stuff. And just some other things we talked about,… + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: Relate to Hugo, and Some other initiatives. + +Piyush: Yeah, I have one Last question, further Denis. So he,… + +Tyler Wright: Absolutely. + +Piyush: as he pointed out some of the issues in the previous that we created related to the landing page yesterday, so I just want to ask some of the issues I got to know one as a fish, that icon is looking heavier. So it's that and in this Earth line, so what we can do is we can have a breakpoint so the purpose will for public utility can come in. Second Line. So what do you think about distance? + +Denis Lelic: Sounds good. + +Piyush: And then what we can do is here, we can remove this complete line open source as it's already in the future. And I just want to ask you pointed out these two functions have said same functionalities. So since we don't have the design right now, all the implementations right now, I suggested by you in the separate issue. for temporary purpose. What do you mean? Where can be directed this? Let's start. + +Denis Lelic: I suggest if you have time, of course you and I can talk tomorrow during the day. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Just let me know when you have time. I'm pretty much available. In the morning. + +Piyush: Yeah, sure. + +Denis Lelic: So, we can go through this in detail. I wouldn't take other people time, because we're kind of like + +Tyler Wright: Denis, just for the record sake. Are you thinking about having patient's team implement that get started pages? You're talking about with the multiple ways to get started? + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I created the issue… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: but I was hoping to provide to get some feedback from either team members or community members. there was mostly I think Julius Arthur, And Piyush just commented that it's good idea, a good approach. So if they're there's not gonna be any Not negative feedback,… + +Piyush: just, + +Denis Lelic: but just providing feedback for changes. I think we could move forward. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think that pages vital especially at this pay at this point so if we could throw the design in there so we can get feedback from the community on what needs to be added subtracted. If anything, then you can continue those conversation with players tomorrow. We can look to implement that as well with this new design. + +Tyler Wright: So It's just one more thing. Before I let everyone go, the open issue. You're gonna make some changes before it gets merged, It doesn't need to be merged quite yet. I know it's being reviewed right now, okay? + +Piyush: Yeah, Yeah. as tennis point girl, there are some issues so we will pick source. I just need to have some discussion regarding this. If we direct those buttons and for the rest of issues, it's pretty much clear. And once we've said, you guys can merge that sorry. + +Tyler Wright: Alright, again, I appreciate everybody's time and efforts today. I'll add some stuff to the calendar. If anybody here wants to be added directly to the calendar. Inviting Google. I know it lived in discord but if anybody wants the absolute calendar but just ping me and send me your email and I'll do so. But again, I hope everyone has a great day there. Should be notes, the transcription recording available soon for this meeting, but we'll definitely be talking on discord in real time very soon. And then I'll see you all next week. + +01:05:00 + +Piyush: You guys are for you, + +Tyler Wright: All right. Thank you. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you, everyone. Bye-bye. + +Tyler Wright: Goodbye, you took. + +Piyush: Have a good day. + +Safayet Adib: Thank you, Bye-bye. + +Denis Lelic: Hey Cheng. + +Cheng Wang: It is. + +Denis Lelic: I'm not sure if you just joined or + +Cheng Wang: No, I joined towards the middle. seven minutes in. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: okay, that's good. you're up early. + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. I wanted to join some Tyler asked to just kind of see what's going on. + +Denis Lelic: Man. + +Cheng Wang: Really a lot of stuff. This is probably one of the most active sigs + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, it's getting crazy. Yeah. + +Cheng Wang: incredible. All right, dude, I'll see you tonight. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Bye-bye. + +Cheng Wang: Bye-bye. Thanks. + +Meeting ended after 01:06:37 👋