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Participants can share input via Discord or during the meeting. + - No immediate community feedback was brought up at the start of the session. + +- **Project Boards Review** + - Tyler reviewed the Akash project boards, including the product and engineering roadmap, community and marketing initiatives, and updates on Akash Console and other core projects. + - Emphasis was placed on transparency and keeping these boards public-facing for community engagement. + - Tyler noted that due to extensive travel by team members, certain SIGs and working groups had postponed updates but remain active. + +- **Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade Update** + - Artur Troian provided a technical update on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade, noting that significant testing and validation are underway. + - Highlighted current resource requirements for the upgrade, including increased RAM and CPU for validators. + - Estimated timeline for public testnet release shared, with pending internal testing completion. + - Artur addressed logistical issues regarding GitHub actions and resource management, and Tyler requested feedback or questions from the community. + +- **Console 2.0 Development** + - The product team is progressing on Console 2.0 with development updates discussed at the recent SIG Providers meeting. + - The team is working on trial wallet integration, fiat payments, and other features planned for community testing soon. + +- **Event Recaps and Insights** + - Amanda Keay recapped the team’s participation in recent global events, including a main stage presentation by Greg and several side events hosted by Akash. + - Notable highlights included: + - Over 200 attendees at a rooftop kickoff event and 100 at a Powered Summit. + - 2000+ merchandise items distributed across events. + - Successful community engagement with over 3000 email sign-ups from event attendees. + - Zach Horn added insights on Korea Blockchain Week and Token2049, noting differences in audience demographics and engagement levels. + +- **YouTube and Developer Onboarding Initiatives** + - Robert Del Rey updated on Akash’s YouTube content strategy, supported by community members like BS and Dennis. + - Community members are invited to contribute to content creation around Akash services and related workflows. + - Zealy, a developer onboarding program, concluded its second sprint with reviews ongoing, aiming to enhance engagement and transparency. + +- **Akash Chat API** + - Recent updates on the Akash Chat API were announced, including the release of Llama32, developed rapidly by Julius for community testing and feedback. + +- **Discussions on Community Contributions** + - Acknowledged ongoing contributions from community members, with special recognition for participants actively engaging in documentation, project boards, and SIG sessions. + +- **New Proposal from Alchemy** + - Kyle Walden of Alchemy introduced a potential collaboration, offering to support Akash in launching a chain and gathering product feedback. + - Tyler welcomed the proposal but suggested that Kyle follow up in a SIG working group or GitHub discussion to refine the collaboration's objectives. + +- **Closing Remarks** + - Tyler highlighted upcoming SIG meetings and encouraged community participation in project boards, GitHub discussions, and Discord channels. + - Cheng Wang reiterated the importance of community involvement, praising contributors who have grown to core team roles and encouraging new members to engage. + +## Action Items +- **Community Feedback Collection**: Tyler to gather additional community feedback via Discord or GitHub discussions. +- **Cosmos SDK 47 Testing**: Artur to complete final stages of internal testing and initiate public testnet, updating the community on progress and requirements. +- **Console 2.0 Testing**: Product team to begin community testing for Console 2.0 and provide further updates. +- **Event Recap Documentation**: Amanda to share a retrospective of recent events, with community members contributing to ongoing event planning. +- **YouTube Content Development**: Robert to continue expanding Akash’s YouTube content, inviting community members to contribute. +- **Developer Onboarding**: Robert and Piber to finalize the review of Zealy Sprint 2 and address feedback. +- **Alchemy Proposal Follow-Up**: Kyle and Tyler to coordinate next steps for the proposed partnership through SIG discussions. +- **Next Meeting Preparations**: Tyler to prepare the agenda and schedule for the upcoming SIG meetings and updates. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All Welcome everybody to the Cost Steering committee. I believe this is number 20. It is September 26th 2024. + +Tyler Wright: During the Akash Syrian Committee meetings, the Accostering committee in the community, go over an agenda that I will share on screen right now. Again, the agenda is in multiple parts. You can see past meetings, notes, transcripts and recordings available Get on GitHub inside. The community. Repo we start off by reviewing discussing and addressing any community feedback or even since our conflicts related to six working groups or anything else. Then we go into project boards Then we discuss any active github discussions. With a focus on github discussions, that have a lot of comments, a lot of people talking about it and then again see if there's anything else on the discuss inside. And then we open up the floor to see. There's any other questions from anybody on the call? + +Tyler Wright: Again, I don't have any active discussions slated for today, but I did want to see before I hop into the agenda. If there's any items that anybody wants to discuss towards the end of the call, Could drop them in chat. + +Tyler Wright: Alright, getting us going again. I just want to see if there was anything that anybody wanted to discussed or address, or any community feedback, relate to sigs, working groups or anything else on the Akash community side. + +Tyler Wright: Again, If anybody has any feedback, I know that people get feedback and discord or reach out to me in between meeting, but feel free to reach out to myself or anybody. And we can continue to improve and make adjustments. + +Tyler Wright: I see Kyle drop the message in a chat and we'll take some time for it at the end. Thank you, All Next up is a review of the cost projects boards. So as everybody knows there are a couple of project boards that are always public facing. There's a product and engineering roadmap and there's also a community and marketing initiatives project board. Again, these are project boards there are always transparent and forward facing related to things like Akash console, the core product on the product and engineering side as well as a number of other items and then the community side. Again, there's a number of efforts that are ongoing + +Tyler Wright: I know that there's been a great deal of progress that has been discussed in various CIGS and working groups. So I don't want to duplicate work and I know that those teams are actually been traveling a fair amount. And so, I know folks are less than a hundred percent and are on the move. + +Tyler Wright: I do want to pass it over to potentially Scott and Archer to talk a little bit about constant SDK, 47 upgrade because I know that there's been a significant amount of work that has been going on with again, the proposal just passing on chain to support all that work. And I believe we're in the final stages of internal testing by the core engineering team. And then again, there's a number of folks that have already reached out to that are looking to get involved in some more public testing. But I'll hand over to Archer Scott to maybe talk a little bit more about SDK upgrade to version zero.org. That's it. + +Artur Troian: Thanks, hi everyone. I think I do for some updates on this particular subject. as you probably know a great path to the Sdk47 is quite complicated and we have good base migration for chain, which done and a bunch of migrations and testings are passing. so that's pretty much a good science since I think again of the August, And we had a couple sort of internal things to prioritize on, and that's why maybe there will not that many movements on the educational to seven. However, I just want to show The + +Artur Troian: Keep going is the things we just don't always committee post one days. Anyways, this point, we pretty much preparing to lunch test. Now, there are one sort of blocker, this moment providing me from kite in the releases and that is related and to understanding on the actual mainnet state, So, just to give a picture of the upgrades, quite heavy and it will require a lot of resources from the validators. So think right now we just targeted for 128 gigs of RAM. And to run the tests, we need to have on the testnet through. What a daters. And that means, obviously, if you do the monthly, 384 gigs ram, that's it, just make sure the consensus is right, and so forth. And that takes quite a lot of time and sometimes machines, + + +### 00:05:00 + +Artur Troian: Moving on the github actions, don't provide many resources. So we have to source them ourselves and Keep an eye on the things, but hopefully by end of this week, we're gonna solve this particular hiccup that we have and start releasing cutting the better reasons and fire up test that. So we can start testing all the blockchain related transactions and make sure that no existing behavior patterns are broken and everything new in terms of the blockchain works. As soon as we confirm that that is the case. We started in boilers and the network and enhance dancing. So a thing that is pretty much it for my site. + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any questions again? There will be I think the SIG chain meeting for the month of September was postponed. As we get ready for again, a more public testnet with some insiders and just general members of the Akash community to test upgrade, There'll be some more public messaging shared There'll be a sick chain meeting where folks can ask questions we can talk about things a little bit more detail. So look out for that on the calendar upcoming. + +Tyler Wright: real quick, I'm just looking for the message right now and I dropped it in the validators announcements as well alluding to some of the stuff that Artur has been talking about. But just about the shared size of what this upgrade involves. I think I've mentioned it If anybody here is a validator or anybody listening to this call later as a validator, there is going to be a requirement for more RAM and CPU 128 gigs of RAM and eight cores CPU will be minimum requirements for this network upgrade. I know there's less than that and I'm a requirements for typical validators but because the nature of this upgrade, we're asking for folks to make sure that their resources are up to snuff so that we can have as smooth and upgrade as we have had, in the recent past on a number of vacations. + +Tyler Wright: Cool. + +Tyler Wright: Again I know that the product team has been working extremely hard on Console 2.0 a number of different phases. In the Sick Providers Meeting yesterday, are Jigar & Duvall talked at length, about some of the things that they've been doing on the provider side of the console console 2.0. I know in previous SIG clients meetings, we've heard from all a cost product team on updates to again trial. While it's fiat payments, which is going to be moved. So I think testing sometimes soon, I know this is something that members of core team and also members of the community. It's also been looking at events, which we'll talk about soon, but I just want to see outside of that. Is there anything from anybody from the product? Team, specifically wants to call out here to other community on the standard committee. Don't feel the blush. I know we have, again, six and working groups. And other times that we talk about, + +Tyler Wright: I just want to see if there's anything that anybody want to call out or discuss any further. On the track and engineering roadmap. + +Tyler Wright: If not, then again, we'll move along. I know that again. It's been a very busy time. Thank you to all the insiders that have been going to events. Thank you, to all, the members of the core team that have been traveling across the world attending events putting on events. There's just been a lot going on in that front. I did before we hop into a number of other items that are happening on the community and marketing side. I did want to hand it over to Amanda and potentially Zach and then other people that were maybe at these events can chime in. But I know there's have been a lot of events that have happened since our last steering committee meeting and then a number of events happening in the next couple of weeks as well. So, Amanda, maybe I could kick it over you to talk about, some of the things that have happened and what's up coming. + +Amanda Keay: So still trying to catch up on my sleep that flight from Singapore was horrible but it was a really good trip. We had four insiders that came and we had a main sponsorship for the booth was there. We had Greg was able to get a full-time speaking slot on stage instead of just the panel. So that was really great. I think Greg participated in eight or nine separate events Anil participated in four Zach participated in one panel. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Amanda Keay: And Akash itself posted three different events. One of them was a rooftop kind of kick off event in which we had over. 200 people show up which was really super successful and met a lot of really great people, had some good connections there, we also hosted an powered summit, which was similar to our Akash accelerate except just much shorter and smaller, but we had a two different panels and a couple really great presentation from partners that are using Akash. And we had about a hundred people show up for that. And then we did a VIP sort of yacht event which we invited some special guests to come on board, pun intended, and that was really, really good. So all together, + +Amanda Keay: Cheng did participate in a panel. Yes, it was not originally on the agenda but he got invited that week. So that was another great win. So we had four different people from our team participate in different panels and multiple media interviews and stuff. So that was really, really awesome. I just did a retro of the event so that will be I guess shared. I don't know how we're gonna do that but just showing all of our different leads and stuff. I think we were able to collect close to 3,000 emails from the events. And just had a really great time. Thank you. All the insiders who showed up and man the booth and gave out you have to ask Zach, I don't remember how many pieces of merch, I think it was somewhere around 1300 pieces of merch that we were able to give away. But yeah, it was really awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, And I know not to put Zach on the spot, but I know that Zach was at both Korea Blockchain week and talking 2049, I think he's trying to catch up on sleep himself or he's displaying time between America and Asia at this point. But Zach, is there anything particularly that you wanted to talk about in terms of career blockchain week? Because I know they were kind of two different audiences, talking 249 and career Blockchain week. + +Zach Horn: Yeah, jet lag is no joke. We Amanda and I are both still in the process of shifting back. Cheng is too. I guess the one thing I'll say from both events is that the insiders absolutely crushed it. I mean, we had two boots at both of the events. everyone did such a great job and it's not nothing to be at those booze, all day. + +Zach Horn: What jetlag what you like Cheng? it's not nothing to be at those booze all day and the insiders just did a really fantastic job. So, shout out to everyone that was there. Both of those events and coming up for for May not next week. The number on the merch, you were looking for Amanda's 2,000, we gave that over 2000 pieces of merch across both events, which we've been scaling up the merch that we've been taking to these things. And now, we're just at a totally different level that we were before and the Merch is really good. I mean, people really love it. You know what, we're giving it out. People will take it and put it right on so exactly what you want to see there, but overall it was great. And again, just the insiders absolutely amazing. What was the difference between Korean Singapore, Korea was a little bit more gosh. + +Zach Horn: Korea was a smaller event by a little bit of a margin token, was much much larger and obviously very investor heavy. Maybe slightly more deb heavy in Korea. that's what I felt like in terms of connections. But token was, I'd call it three times the size and, much more focused on obviously the token side of things, and investments, and DC funds, and all that. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you nda. Any other questions around events before we move on? + +Tyler Wright: I know that some folks aren't here, but we have a weekly working group around the Akash website and docs, I just want to call out all the people that come to that. it's a very active group. Some of those folks go on to contribute with the website, contribute to ducks, then help contribute to console. So it's a very, very active group. Shout out to, Dennis Zach obviously pierce from the community who helps to organize and helps with that group. But again, if anybody wants to get involved a little bit more with the website or any open bounties on the website Docs, feel free to join that group. Feel free to look at the issues inside the website, repo. That's another great way to get involved. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Do things that I want to make time for before I open up to see if there's anything else, anybody wants to discuss on the community and marketing side is, I know that Robert has been leading and pushing forward a couple of initiatives you can see updates that happen around working groups daily and we talk about it I think again there's a working group that happens every two weeks that you can join. There's a very, very active discord channel where you could talk where you can see what's going on Zeely, which is a developer onboarding program, Robert and Piper deaf from the community actively work on and lead those efforts. But I do want to call it. Some work that Robert has been leading alongside some other members of the core team and community, I'll call out B s as well who's also been a great support from the Net of Doubt team around the Akash YouTube. I know that again, this is something that has been looked at different points, obviously with the core team working on. So, + +Tyler Wright: Different initiatives is something. I think we want to get some community support for. So I do want to pass over to Robert for a minute or two just to talk about what's been going on in that group. And then just again continuing to invite people that maybe have some video chats or opinions about YouTube in general to again start joining those working group sessions and get involved. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Tyler. Yeah, I will quickly say that. + +Robert Del Rey: Where we bumping the cash YouTube, right? B, s, even outstanding support also Dennis with the graphic assets in their cash YouTube channel. We have All the steering committee called videos, all the 19 calls we got so far. This is the number 20 + +Robert Del Rey: But all the 19 calls we got so far on the steering committee. Call are uploaded in YouTube. At the moment, there are only listed so nobody can see them unless they have a link. We plan to go live really soon with the new pieces of content. So, like Heller was saying, If you have interest in YouTube, if you believe you have talents, you can use in the YouTube Working Group, feel free to pass by the YouTube Working Group channel, and we can take it from there next it's October 1st on next Tuesday. So, the next YouTube working group called It's Happening. Next Tuesday, the first for free to go there, so you can get a deeper route on the videos and what we're doing and how we progress into the next phase of. These are the moment we're uploading accordions for the different calls. + +Robert Del Rey: But we want to expand and upload other kinds of content and create all the kinds of content from zero. So yeah, if you like to get involved, Feel free to go there about Seeley. We're just wrapping up the sprint. Number two, still reviewing, lots of submissions still dealing with some bugs. Some people are trying to gain the system but Benji and I have been doing, I would say at this end job mitigating that we also get lots of feedback from the participants in how we can improve the process of doing the nations, which I'm really thankful for. And yeah, that's The two things I really wanted to cover in case you have any questions I'm here and also opening the DMS + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank ert. I just jumping back to the Akash YouTube effort. Again, the prompt is really Increasing just awareness on YouTube and exploration around There's certainly a number of videos around the token and Akt but creating more content at searchable around the open framework around the cost. What a cost does, how to use a cost console? How to build a caution to your workflow? Think creating? Those kinds of videos will go a long way and being able to again connect with different kinds of learners and maybe trying to use the crash network. So, feel free to get involved. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: Again, I know there's a number of efforts going on the community and marketing side. I know a cash chat API something that's been ongoing and there's continues to be a number of updates there. shout out other members of ZJ other folks that are working on that Zach. Feel free if you want to talk about that, if not, then again we can continue to move along. But I know there's a number of updates in a specific. There's some channels and discord or people can stay up to date and get connected. + +Zach Horn: The only thing I'll say is that we did launch a Llama32 yesterday, a couple hours after it came out. obviously shout out to Julius for turning that around about as quickly as you possibly could. If you test it out, you run into any issues, just let us know. It's always a work at progress but credit where it's due, Julius is absolutely crushing it. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Zach again. Adam Wozney head of community at a crashes, just getting back from some time away on the personal basis. He has been getting up to speed on everything from Akashi EDU to the insider program. Some other initiatives that will get added to this board. So again continue to look out for updates on the community of marketing side, as well as a product and engineering side and both these boards are available at the Akash Network Github or inside the projects area. So again if anybody has any questions that can leave them inside, specific issues or drop them in discord. Is there anything else that anybody wants to discuss on the committee and marketing side before we move on to other agenda items? + +Tyler Wright: All Next up on the agenda, we would typically go over discussions. I just want to remind folks that. Again, if you see discussions in there, please look to get involved, usually how the structure works. And there will be updates made to the structure, whether it be around governance proposals, or just in general. What we tried to do is have folks that have ideas, thoughts, etc. Get involved in discord and get involved in cigar working group at a live meetings. There's meetings that happening, they're happening across a number of different items etc, on a weekly basis. to You share your ideas with the community if you don't have time because you have a day job, then usually ask folks to create a github discussion, where they can talk about their idea a little bit more. Again, we have a number of different tags, including ideas where you can talk about integr. + +Tyler Wright: You could talk about collaborations etc as much detail as you can provide in these discussions, it goes a long way so that folks from the community don't have to ask questions again if you don't have enough detail, folks are just going to assume that you just don't understand what you're talking about and then the discussion may not get that much response but the more detail and the more specifics you can provide on the value, add to their cash network etc. Would go a long way in creating active discussions. the only thing that I will call out real quick is, + +Tyler Wright: And then I'll see if there's any other discussions. I know a member of the Akash insiders started talking about a car awesome Akash and meeting some improvements to the Readme file. Maybe the structure. This is something that has been talked about in SIG clients for some time and I know that Piper debt from the community did a version of a PR just like reorganizing it right now. This conversation is on hold because there are implications to Akash console and we want to make sure that we have a complete picture before we move forward with making updates to awesome Akash again. If there's anything new to anybody wants to act awesome across, or there is a foolproof structure in place for how PRs get merged. There's a number of reviewers that are involved in reviewing the PRS, but I know there's might be some technical debt, and some structural changes that might be in. + +Tyler Wright: But I just want to let people know that this is something that is being thought about, but again, because of a number of other efforts happening with consult 2.0 and beyond this is something that we are going to put on. Hold and discuss probably a little bit further at a future sick clients meeting. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: any questions there or does anyone have anything else that they want to? Have talked about here related to discussions. + +Tyler Wright: All right, moving along. Again, we usually try to have these sorts of conversations in a cigar working group before having them in a steering committee. But Kyle, I do appreciate you joining the meeting today and I think we're running a little bit of heads, get ahead of schedule. it would be great. I know that you had a topic that you wanted to Scott discuss at the pertain Sir Caution alchemy again, this steering committee is for efforts that benefit the Akash network. That's what the community and the steering Committee is focus on. So any initiative integrations etc would have to show that kind of benefit to the class network for folks add value. This is a very vocal community, both folks on this call and just generally in the community. So that's something that has been consistent since the beginning. So if you have maybe a 30 second pitch, that you want to talk about and then maybe we could take this to a cigar working group or you can create a discussion + +Tyler Wright: Do want to give you some time Kyle to talk on this call because you are here. So, the floor is yours to talk for a quick. Second about a caution alchemy. + +Kyle Walden: Yeah, appreciate it. And I was the reason why I joined today is I think I linked up with one of your colleagues on telegram and they said, maybe this would be an appropriate forum. But anyways, keeping it super short and tight. Here we at alchemy were helping a lot of AI projects and decentralized compute projects launched their own chains on EVM and I've been familiar with a kosh for a while and saw that there might be a strong fit. And so one just reach out and get feedback. Maybe there's some other gaps in our products that we need to build to be good for the AI and decentralized compute like industry, but we're playing on making some pretty big asymmetrical bit bets for teams like this and in the space. So So, a direct ass would be Hey maybe we help you launch a chain. The secondary ask would love to get feedback on what products we can build. That would be useful for projects that are similar to yours. + +Tyler Wright: All right, I can follow up not really sure who talked to but I will make sure to follow up with you online about potential. Next steps there, if any. But again,… + +Kyle Walden: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: again, sorry for if somebody misled you, we try to have a little bit more refined discussions at this part. But again, because you were here, I just wanted to give you some time to just talk for a second. + +Kyle Walden: Hey, I appreciate it. It was cool listening and I've never been a part of something like this. So it was cool to watch and learned a lot and thanks for letting me hang on and listen so I really appreciate it. + +Tyler Wright: Not much appreciate you and I'll follow up with you. I'm following this. + +Kyle Walden: Awesome. Thanks, Tyler. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Just want to see if there is any other topics that anybody wanted to discuss at this point. + +Tyler Wright: All right, looking ahead again I'm sure there will be a number of updates made from the Akash Console product. Team on all the work that they've been doing began update from Archer. And as we look forward, there will I know some testing. Again, if you want to get involved in that testing, please make your voice heard and sick chain. There'll be a sick chain meeting. I think happening in the week or two, we'll talk more in depth, as we get ready, for what will be a massive constant SDK upgrade to customers at the k47. Again, there's a number of events coming up including Ray Summit as well, and sorry, I mean, that's a number of other items happening in October. There's just a number of things happening across the entire Akash ecosystem. I just want to shout out everybody here for all their efforts. Thank you for taking the time here today. For getting involved for making your voices. Heard, thank you to all. Those are listening in and watching this later, feel free. + +Tyler Wright: To join a cigar working group, if you don't know which one to join, please just ask in general chatter, Ask an insider or myself. I'm about things that you're interested in and I know is again Console continues to mature. They'll be more opportunities to contribute there. I know there's again, a number of opportunities being created by SIG, design around the website, etc. So please look to get involved and we'll continue to again, appreciate those contributions. always the man with the last word. Go ahead Cheng. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Cheng Wang: Apologies, I come on, Andrew. Trying to wait for you, to finish up your beautiful, tie out. Now before I jump in here, but I definitely want to read Orade. The importance of the community here in the contributions. By everyone. mean just proof is in the pudding, and I want to put this in recording in and writing, and of course, everyone here to listen to live, So folks, obviously the maxes and the folks over, jigar in those and prayer to our kind of the og's, in the space, right? But just even recently, those who have contributed meaningfully to a caution like ZJ. Now, even his brother right are started off contributing in some light weight fashion that kind of continue to develop and now, essentially part of the core team, right? So that's been absolutely huge boon and then do me has been a huge moon and a find it in the community for us. And so, shout out to all of you guys there. and we're gonna probably work on something with a little bit more involvement with Domi as well, and so, + +Cheng Wang: Please do come in if you're willing to do stuff for a cost, there's a lot of room to grow. We are still very early in the kind of the stages of development here. So all the help and all the expertise, we can get from an extremely technical and capable of community is super welcome. And so thank you again for all and please don't. There is a path to getting more involved in doing a lot of awesome things here, on a car show with us in the court, the greater team. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much Cool. If there's nothing else. Then again, we can wrap up a little bit early. I know it's been a last meeting was quite long with all the active discussions, and now we're in a busy period with events. Thank you to Amanda in Zach, for all the updates, I gave on the events, hope you both get some rest along with Cheng, and Neil and others. And again, looking forward to a number of states and working groups as we look ahead. And please look to get involved. As have mentioned, as Cheng mentioned, if you need any help or support getting involved again, reach out to a member of the core team or an insider, we'll get you started, but much, appreciate all of you. I hope everyone has a great rest of their day, and I'm will continue to talk online and we'll see you in the middle verse + +Tyler Wright: All right, guys. Bye-bye. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you, Tyler. Bye. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you, everyone. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:33:22 diff --git a/sig-analytics/meetings/015-2024-10-17.md b/sig-analytics/meetings/015-2024-10-17.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ce0c1069 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-analytics/meetings/015-2024-10-17.md @@ -0,0 +1,97 @@ +# Akash Network - Analytics Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #15 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Indexer by Maxime Beauchamp +- Community Contributions to Analytics on Akash +- Open Discussion on Indexer Improvements and Analytics Needs +- Scheduling and Future Meetings + +## **Meeting Details** +- Date: Thursday, October 17th, 2024 +- Time: 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://r42dbtac4ccmnthbcyiziw5brtbvhu3bprmx4kbzgimwxti5af3q.arweave.net/jzQwzALghMbM4RYRlFuhjMNT02F8WX4oOTIZa80dAXc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- B S +- Fenil Modi +- Kiryl “mrbro” +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Maxime Cyr + +## Meeting Notes + +### Welcome and Introductions +- Tyler Wright welcomed attendees to the bi-monthly SIG Analytics meeting. +- Emphasized that the meeting is intended to cover analytics updates and community contributions on Akash Network. +- Mentioned that the SIG originally focused on creating an indexer for Akash analytics and continues to evolve in response to community needs. +- Shared that the indexer, initially developed by the Cloudmos team (acquired by OCL), is now open-source and available for community use, with the link shared in the Analytics Discord channel. + +### Updates on Indexer by Maxime Beauchamp +- Maxime Beauchamp provided updates on recent indexer improvements. + - A new pull request is in review, which aims to add endpoints that enhance data retrieval for the provider console. +- Highlighted recent updates allowing more customization on the Akash Network stats page: + - Users can now set custom date ranges on visualizations by adjusting the X-axis, adding flexibility for data analysis. + - These enhancements were implemented by a community member and are part of ongoing community-driven improvements. +- Tyler added that the recent changes were based on suggestions from community feedback, demonstrating active engagement and collaborative progress. + +### Community Contributions to Analytics on Akash +- Tyler Wright acknowledged a community member's contributions to enhancing data display on the Akash stats page. +- Noted that community members are encouraged to share feedback or suggestions related to analytics through the Analytics Discord channel or by creating issues in the website repository. + +### Open Discussion on Indexer Improvements and Analytics Needs +- Tyler opened the floor for additional suggestions or feedback on indexer functionality and the current analytics setup. +- Encouraged members to use the Analytics Discord channel for ongoing discussions between formal meetings, especially for suggestions on unrepresented stats or improvements in data visualization. +- Discussed the decreased need for frequent meetings due to the stability of the indexer but emphasized the importance of occasional check-ins to gather community insights and address emerging needs. + +### Scheduling and Future Meetings +- Tyler suggested postponing the next SIG Analytics meeting until January 2025 unless urgent topics arise, as there are no pressing updates anticipated for December. +- Encouraged participants to engage in other relevant Akash working groups, mentioning upcoming meetings for the Steering Committee, Providers SIG, Docs, and Clients. +- Invited members to reach out via Discord if they have questions or need guidance on analytics or other working groups. + +## Action Items +- Maxime Beauchamp: Finalize and merge the pull request adding new endpoints for provider console data retrieval. +- Community Members: Continue providing feedback on the analytics page via the Discord channel or the website repository. +- Tyler Wright: Update the community on the tentative scheduling of the next SIG Analytics meeting in January 2025, ensuring members are aware of other engagement opportunities within Akash working groups. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All Welcome everybody to Monthly meeting. During this special interest group for analytics. This group has historically been focused on things related to analytics on Akash as well as again. This specialist group came out of efforts to build an indexer as we've discussed at previous meetings. Cloud most team which was required by OCL. I think over a year ago at this point had built an index. So now that indexer again is open source, I've attached a link to it inside analytics discord channel. Just so folks have easy access to it. + +Tyler Wright: During these meetings, we get a quick update from the maxes on anything that's been going on related to the indexer over the last couple of months. Again, this is a meeting that meets every other month. Frankly, this is since the indexer has come into existence, folks used to discord, channel, to ask any questions, talk about any stats, or any information that they're looking for at the indexer. and this thing is historically, been quite straight to the point and everyone seems to agree. So the cadence to meet was changed from monthly to every other month. And over time, we might see how that continues to play out Before I handed over to the Maxis to talk about any recent updates of the index, I do want to see if there's anybody else that has any agenda items that they want to discuss here today. + +Tyler Wright: All right, I know since we last met, there's been some work happening around some of the stats being displayed on the cache network website, as well as just some back and changes. So be your maxi, I just didn't know if you had any updates that you wanted to provide on the index over the last couple of months or anything that you're thinking about that, you maybe want to share with the group. Or those that are listening later. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Much has been done from the indexer perspective. There's currently a PR then but by Maxi, that is the upper review to add some new endpoints APN points that will fetch and more data or the provider console. And I think that's pretty much it for her analytics. That regard the past month. + +Tyler Wright: I know that again. I think some people could contributed to some stat page updates and how information is displayed from the indexer. So I think thats also been a change. I think it was a change. I would suggested by a member of the community and changed by that same member of the community. So Again, if anybody's looking for… + +Maxime Beauchamp: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: where to find, you can always go to stats at a cost.network and see some of the visualizations from the indexer. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Yeah, it was actually a community member that did a PIs you update the child's on stats that I got a network. and previously we couldn't do custom range or date range. Now we can just By dragging the is the X-axis or both X's. You can customize the range. Of data. You want to see? Yeah, pretty cool. + +Tyler Wright: Again, if anybody has any other items that they wanted, suggestions or any other recommendations that there relates to stats page, how things are visualized or just the indexer in general. Again, we used to analytics discord channel as a place to talk about this, as well as the number of other channels and discord and then again people can make issues inside the website repo Talk to again the Max's about any questions related to the indexer and then continue to improve both how stats look and maybe if there's any stats that aren't being represented that somebody's looking for we discuss that in the analytics discord channel as well. + +Tyler Wright: Just tracking some again to some additional items at our last meeting. Again, we got some updates from the maxes on some of the changes that have been made to the Again that last meeting was August 15th. a couple of action items that I had were again continuing to get folks to get involved in this SIG again. I know that the indexer there isn't as much need for constant discussion. I think prior to the indexer being open source, there was a great deal of participation here, but now that the index is here working properly and, folks get quick responses and various channels from the Max's. I think there's less + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Conversation to be had at this specific Sig. Does anyone have anything else? They specifically want to talk about analytics related? + +Tyler Wright: Okay, if not then I would encourage folks. Again, I've dropped in Information related to the indexer maxi dropped in some pulls that are being worked on if anybody wants to get involved again, analytics discord channel as a place to get started. If anyone has any about structure about how decisions were made, etc? Again, feel free to use again, analytics channel in between these meetings, to have to continue conversations. I do appreciate Max B giving us a quick update on all the things that I've been happening over the last month. I know that the maxes are working a great deal on Console 2.0 and some of the work around there. So again, with the indexer and a really good place, it's really about just doing some slight maintenance. And again, continuing to improve as members of the community, provide feedback, thoughts, etc. + +Tyler Wright: If nobody has anything that they want to talk about, then I can certainly let y'all go a bit early again, Max, thank you for the quick update. I believe that we may just push this. The next meeting is supposed to be December. We may just push that to the New Year. Unless anybody has any specific items that come up between meetings? The next couple of months that needs to be talked about live? Again, I may just push up the next again. Analytics meeting to the New Year. + +Tyler Wright: feel free to get involved in a number of other states and working groups. There's a steering committee happening in two weeks. Next week, We have providers SIG docs, which is a monthly meeting as well and then Clients will be happening in November. So again, please look to get involved in a number of the special interest groups and working groups or just get involved in discord. Ask a number of questions and if you need anything for me, feel free to reach out to me and I can help you direct you to folks that you need to get in contact with. Again, much appreciated, everyone's time today. Thank you for the updates. We'll continue to talk everything indexer the analytics discord channel, but I hope everyone has a great rest of your day. Thank you all again. Talk to you soon. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, Tyler. The + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:08:45 👋 + diff --git a/sig-clients/README.md b/sig-clients/README.md index fd661f9a..b7a36046 100644 --- a/sig-clients/README.md +++ b/sig-clients/README.md @@ -49,9 +49,8 @@ The goal of this SIG is to foster a community around each of these clients that | #15| April 24th, 2024 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/015-2024-04-24.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/015-2024-04-24.md#transcript) |[Link](https://j3gehsinfdsmtozvozl7ne3dv2w255mnewbmwe3unblpiayao3ya.arweave.net/TsxDyQ0o5Mm7NXZX9pNjrq2u9Y0lgssTdGhW9AMAdvA) | #16| June 25th, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/016-2024-06-25.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/016-2024-06-25.md#transcript) |[Link](https://g4sync4igp5y56x5cxfhh45vo4elgdzmcptwja4z33gcjhzkkoqq.arweave.net/NyWGi4gz-476_RXKc_O1dwizDywT52SDmd7MJJ8qU6E) | #17| August 20th, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/017-2024-08-20.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/017-2024-08-20.md#transcript) |[Link](https://4mgemilgnadqtihidt2lpu7ocnkirkq4voj2pabf64hw5zdlqh3a.arweave.net/4wxGIWZoBwmg6Bz0t9PuE1SIqhyrk6eAJfcPbuRrgfY) -| #18| October 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #19| December, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #20| January, 2025 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #18| November 13th, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #19| January, 2025 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | ## Leadership diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md b/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e22e0958 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md @@ -0,0 +1,244 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #10 + +## Agenda +- Overview of current year activities and achievements +- Updates on upcoming events for early next year +- Discussion on the Akash Hackathon working group +- Governance proposal updates +- Akash EDU platform and curriculum progress +- Zealy platform engagement and updates +- Community project SDXL on Akash Network +- Open floor for additional questions or feedback + + +## Participants +- Adam Wozney +- Alani Kuye +- Erin Rivas +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodrigo Rochin +- Scott Hewitson +- Zach Ross + + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://xnsr63vwmgfobgaw47idb3zgimmhbtxdcpftyjbp6vwpeyle5d3a.arweave.net/u2UfbrZhiuCYFufQMO8mQxhwzuMTyzwkL_Vs8mFk6PY) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Meeting Notes + +### Opening Remarks +- Adam Wozney thanked attendees, noting that this is the last Community SIG call of the year. +- Brief reflection on the SIG and working group structure adopted this year, noting its success. +- Adam mentioned expectations for increased attendance in community calls after the new year due to holiday break. + +### Event Updates +- **EthDenver (February)**: Akash will sponsor and have a booth; selected Akash Insiders will assist with booth management. This event is a significant Ethereum-focused conference in the U.S., attracting around 15,000 attendees. + - **Cosmos Meetup**: Potential half-day or full-day event for Cosmos projects, allowing networking among various Cosmos ecosystems like Osmosis and Secret Network. +- **NVIDIA GTC**: High sponsorship costs precluded Akash’s official sponsorship, but selected insiders and community members will attend with a private, invite-only dinner. +- **KubeCon EU**: Scheduled sponsorship includes a booth; three Akash Insiders will represent Akash. Focus is on connecting with the KubeCon community and understanding further engagement opportunities. +- **Consensus (Q2)**: Akash aims to participate with AI-focused sessions, aligning with current AI developments in crypto. Additional details are pending budget approvals. + +### Akash Hackathon Working Group +- Formation of the working group to plan three proposed hackathons for the coming year. + - **Roles Needed**: Marketing Manager, Community Manager, and Event Manager. + - Each role has responsibilities for sponsorships, community support, and event logistics. +- Hackathon framework posted on GitHub for community feedback, with the proposal up for a governance vote soon. + +### Governance Proposal Updates +- **Community Support Proposal**: Focus on funding the Vanguards program and community bounties. The Vanguards program will reward community members providing technical assistance and content creation. +- GitHub discussions are open for feedback before formal funding proposals are put forth. + +### Akash EDU +- Akash EDU platform revamp planned, with improvements in sign-up flow and curriculum. + - New courses: Purchasing/Staking AKT, Deploying on Spheron, and Using Stable Diffusion on Akash. + - Community members are invited to contribute additional curriculum ideas in the SIG channel on Discord. + +### Zealy Platform +- Update on Zealy’s launch, led by Robert Del Rey and Andrew. Zealy provides missions for community engagement with rewards in AKT. + - Initial launch success with over 50 participants completing missions. + - Pilot extended into January to allow broader participation. + - Feedback on missions and tasks are encouraged in the Zealy Working Group channel on Discord. + +### Community Project: SDXL on Akash Network +- Highlight of the SDXL project that allows community members to generate AI images using the Akash network. + - Discussion of creating a Discord channel for sharing SDXL-generated images, potentially linking Twitter posts with SDXL-generated content. + - Adam confirmed the channel setup post-call. + +### Closing Remarks +- Final call of the year, with gratitude expressed for community contributions. +- Encouragement for feedback and ongoing participation through the Akash Discord SIG channels. +- Wishes for a happy new year and closing with thanks to all participants. + +## Action Items +- **Adam Wozney**: Set up a Discord channel for SDXL image sharing. +- **Hackathon Working Group**: Finalize GitHub discussions, prepare proposal for governance vote. +- **Community Members**: Review and provide feedback on governance proposals in GitHub. +- **Zealy Team**: Continue mission updates and engage community feedback in Discord. +- **SIG Participants**: Share ideas or new curriculum for Akash EDU in the SIG channel. + +# **Transcript** + +*This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created.* + +Adam Wozney: right cool, and I think we Thank you guys for joining today's Community Sig office hours working call special interest group Community event. This is the final Community Sig call of the Year. This is the first year that we've kind of done this sig and working group kind of strategy and framework. So I think it's been pretty good so far and we're definitely getting towards the end of the year. I said before this call started. + +Adam Wozney: We're about three weeks until 2024 and I've seen calls from different things that we're doing whether it's Twitter spaces or office hours with insiders or Sig calls getting less and getting more people are starting to check out for the new year. So I'm expecting a January 1st. All of the events to be super jam packed with people or standing remotely in these calls. So thank you guys for joining today's special interest group Community call just as a reminder just the level set the community Sig definition is really focused on discussing supporting and managing Akash Community initiatives those initiatives sometimes turn into working groups. Sometimes as initiatives are just one off things like bounties, but anything that you can think of in terms of what community members are doing to contribute to the network, this is kind of a good place to start for that. + +Adam Wozney: I only have a handful of agenda items today some of these things you guys might be aware of some of them you might not but I thought it'd be good just to kind of cover our bases so that way once we hit the ground running. We'll be ready to hit the ground running next year for our first Community call of the new year. But before I get into my agenda items I have one for you Robert I mentioned before this call started, but is there any agenda items you guys would like to cover anything that you guys are thinking about or interested in discussing? + +Adam Wozney: All right, yeah, so my gym is pretty straightforward. It's a lot of stuff that we've talked about in other calls. But first thing is events the governor's proposal for events have passed the signaling proposal. So I'm moving forward on the proposed events that were listed in the signaling proposal. Either before the end of the year or early next year. We're gonna put in our q1 budget request for events because the signaling proposal passed. I don't see any red flags or any issues with the three events that are listed in q1 that we're going to be participating in. + +Adam Wozney: but I want to kind of quickly cover where things are at. I'm already starting to get the ball rolling out what our sponsorships and attendance looks like the first big one that's coming up in the new year is East Denver that's happening in February. We are sponsoring that we are gonna have a booth there. We are gonna bring on a few Akash community members in the Insiders program to help manage that booth at East Denver is the largest kind of aetherium developer conference in the United States. It's sister event ECC. The absent in Paris is the European version of East Denver. It's the largest etherium developer conference in Europe, but because it's such a big conference and because there's so many attendees and crypto fans there other projects get involved. So it's a huge event like 15,000 people attend. So we are going to be doing a booth we are gonna have caution insiders represent Akash at that Booth. I'm really excited for that. I should have more updates as time progresses, but + +Adam Wozney: go to the events working group channel for more of the updates on East Denver. The next event that's coming up is NVIDIA GTC. We are not sponsoring that event. It was budgeted out that we could sponsor it but it is a huge event because of the AI boom and Nvidia kind of at the core of all AI talk really besides chat gbt. It's very expensive to participate sponsorship started way in July. And most of them has sold out. + +Adam Wozney: Some of the higher tier sponsorships are $350,000 and that only gets you a very short amount of time to get on stage and talk it gets you a booth but then you got to spend money on putting this boot together. So you're looking at if you want to pull out presents and Nvidia. You're probably looking at 400 to 500 thousand dollars. We are not there yet. We are not gonna do that. I don't think they even offer food like it's not all they do but you try to pay for it. It's a very + +Adam Wozney: high tier High Caliber event in a well-known space and a booming space. So instead of sponsoring we are going to be just attending. However, we are going to be doing kind of a private invite-only dinner. We're having a couple overclock members attend and I'm currently looking for some insiders that caution ciders to also represent Akash at the event. So probably three people in total go to Nvidia and that's gonna be just attending kind of getting a sense of what the conference is all about. Seeing how we can plug in a cost of maybe future conferences. so we'll see how that one goes. So we are first one we're attending so that one I'm working on. That's just attending so just paying for tickets no sponsorship. The next one that will be sponsoring is actually happening over the Nvidia time is kubecon in Europe. + +00:05:00 + +Adam Wozney: Some of our insiders attended that one before I think it's very relevant to We're gonna be sponsoring a booth there. It's a little over what the sponsorship dollars that we have. But I do have some wiggle room to cover the sponsorship for that. So we should still fall under budget for kukan EU. Because we are going to be sponsoring a booth. I've already connected with three insiders and I think we have the three insiders that will represent Akash at kukan and help out with that Booth representation. The goal for that is really better understanding how we can get involved in future kubecon activities because they do a side events. They do a lot of different things throughout the course of the year in different parts of the world. So I think we're gonna get a lot of good understanding of what we can do in the future with them on top of just generating leads for introducing cost to people that might not be familiar with it in the traditionally a web to space like kubecon that's happening in Paris and that's gonna happen over the same period of time is NVIDIA. So we're gonna have a couple different kind of event groups going to those things. + +Adam Wozney: And in the final event is consensus. That's the granddaddy of all crypto events been around the longest, 15 to 20,000 even more sometimes attend that event it's a week-long activity of all these different projects going there's investors and media and just all these different crypto projects that are going to be in tenants for consensus that's happening in Q2, but just to get the ball rolling assuming + +Adam Wozney: That the Q2 events governance proposal will pass because historically all of them have passed I can kind of move forward on potentially getting a sponsorship going there what it looks like we'll be doing is bringing a couple insiders along to help and a couple overclock team members to help put together a media that will be on site during consensus. And the cool thing about it is there is now a big push into crypto and Ai because we're kind of at the Forefront of that we will have our own dedicated AI track that's essentially a part of this so there will be no other AI meetups. It'll be basically Akash AI Meetup at consensus. So we're gonna be kind of one of the diamonds for AI out there and I think we need a lot out of that Meetup opportunity and then it goes with all the other bells of whistles of that sponsorship. It is a little bit over what our proposed budget is for sponsorships alone. But again, I do have some wiggle room for our other activities that we'll be + +Adam Wozney: In there, so I'm excited about the consensus event. That'll be happening in Q2 of this year. So still a lot to work out with that one, but we're putting that together. Last thing I was gonna mention before I move on from events or save you guys have questions about these for eat Denver. I'm also working on putting together a cosmos kind of either half day mini conference or potentially just a larger scale Meetup. I've connected with the folks Cosmo verse of connected with the folks at osmosis secret Network. Eve + +Adam Wozney: what else is polygon Labs a few other Cosmos projects and the goal behind this kind of event that we're proposing is introducing East Denver participants to different Cosmos projects and getting some cosmonauts together to kind of network and meet each other and kind of shake hands and kiss babies as it were so a lot will be happening for Denver and videos gonna be pretty lightweight just attending Kube Carnival of a booth and then consensus is still kind of being worked out but usually consensus a lot going on, so they'll be a lot going on for consensus, but that's not for another four months or so. + +Adam Wozney: that's it for in-person events that are part of the events working group because the last thing I was gonna say about that is if you want to get involved in all these event activities understand what we're doing how it's all working. Just go to the events working group Channel and our Discord and that's where all event activities in terms of us sponsoring or having a presence at owned events or not owned events. It's happening. Just go to that Discord Channel any questions on that before my quick next agenda item + +Adam Wozney: All next up is Not tomorrow, but this Thursday, we're gonna be doing our first ever public Insider office hours. So for folks that are either watching this recording or current or new or OG insiders that are in the call right now traditionally office hours have been exclusive to The Insider Community. It's an opportunity for insiders to share feedback ask for support. We give Community updates and then sometimes we'll even bring in guests for kind of project updates on things that they're working on exclusive to The Insider Community. We are going to be doing our first ever public office hours this Thursday at 10 am + +00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: We're gonna be hosting it on Zoom. Usually we just do these inside our office hours on Google Hangouts because it's private but because we want people to see what goes on in these office hours and potentially find new insiders to apply to join the program. This is gonna be our first ever public one. That's really the goal of this is to kind of introduce the Insiders program to a wider scope of people and see if we can get some new applications if it's successful. We'll do some more in the future. We might not host it on Zoom. I've heard there's privacy issues of Zoom. So I definitely want to be well understanding of that, but we just wanted to get one up really quickly. so that'll be happening this Thursday if it's successful and people really respond. maybe we'll do some more in the future. If not, we'll just kind of keep doing these + +Adam Wozney: Exclusively every week at Thursday at 10 am but that's gonna be happening. This Thursday live stream was just promoted on Twitter and go check that out. Feel free to promote that to your friends and colleagues, but that'll be happening this Thursday. that's it really for event related things any questions on any event related stuff before I move on to the next item here. See if there's anything in the chat. Nope. Yeah, cool. + +Adam Wozney: Next up is the hackathon working group. So the hackathon working group was kind of formed out of the community special interest group a smaller subset of individuals so they wanted to get involved in actually putting you on in a cash hackathon. So we ran our first one last year. There was some things that went really really well. There was something that didn't go. the first hackathon was really focused on just kind of understanding what we want to do in upcoming hackathons. what doesn't work just generally figuring out what we want to kind of contribute in terms of folks that would be interested in building on top of Akash. + +Adam Wozney: The hackathon working group was formed again for 2024 and currently the proposal is up on GitHub discussions for review it basically lists out three potential hackathons or three proposed hackathons for next year TBD and what we want people to build TBD and exact times but the general formula and the framework is now on GitHub disc. Questions for people's feedback. It's going to be open until next week Friday at that point. If there's any things that we want to change we'll change it. And from there. We'll put it up for a community governance vote on funding three hackathons for next year. + +Adam Wozney: We will be looking for three roles as a part of the hackathon. It'll be a marketing manager role there will be and that basically their function is confirming judges for The hackathon and then additionally finding sponsored tracks other Cosmos or other projects that are interested in participating in the hackathon and having their own sponsored Bounty track something that links to Akash with their own prize pool. That's something that worked pretty well for our last hackathon. So the marketing manager will be doing the community manager role will be basically answering questions and set up private or not private but a public Discord channel for the upcoming hackathons. So just basically Community Support there answering questions about the hackathon and then the event manager role will be helping organize workshops with members of the overclock lab team member of the Insiders community and members of the sponsored tracks basically answering and putting + +Adam Wozney: workshops on how developers can interact with their different protocols So those will be the three roles and those are paid roles. That's all listed in the hackathon working group are all in the hackathon GitHub discussion that's open right now. So go review that leave your feedback and then hopefully before the end of the year or early next year, we'll put it up for a governance vote to fund three hackathons for next year. + +Adam Wozney: Next up is the community support prop. So that is another proposal governance proposal to fund community activities and there's really two big kind of items on the community support prop. That is up for GitHub discussions. Right. Now. The first is funding the vanguards program, which is kind of our Elite community members who respond to Discord Community questions answer technical questions provide a feedback at Akash, and then there's kind of like Choose Your Own Adventure path for individuals that are building, different video curriculum or creating technical blog posts or putting together the framework for zealy a community kind of task manager building functionality for So that's for funding the vanguards those individuals that are highly engaged and very involved in ecosystem making a cash what it is and then the other kind of + +00:15:00 + +Adam Wozney: Adam is bounties and those will be basically kind of one-off opportunities for any Community member to build or do something that's beneficial to the ecosystem. So that proposal is up live right now on GitHub go review it leave your feedback and then hopefully before the end of the year or again early next year, we'll put it up for a funding prop and then we can move forward on all those things. That's it for the governance proposals. Any questions feedback thoughts on that before my maybe final two or three line items. Going Scott. + +Scott Hewitson: To bring that up and then let's get a bounty for it. So it's like if a bounty has the support of a Sig or working group that's 10 times more likely to, get put forward. I really just want to empower the community to be able to do that. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you Scott. And yeah, and if you want to get it more involved in that governance proposal or you have any questions or thoughts about that you can head over to the community Sig Channel leave your thoughts in there or head over to GitHub where the discussions taking place around the bounties and around the vanguards. So leave your thoughts in there. last couple things is Akash edu. So that is something that's been kind of Ebbs and flows throughout 2023. Basically the idea behind Akashi to you is to have a platform where + +Adam Wozney: a future community members can learn about It'll have everything from how to deploy a provider using pretor to deploying on the Akash network using CLI or Cloud most we launched our first curriculum middle of last year and we learned a lot from that but then it got kind of pushed by the wayside because there's other priority items that people had to work on but we're at the point where I think we can kind of revitalize the Akash edu platform. It's hosted on omniflex right now. They have a timeline of December 20th to update the sign up flow. That's one of the biggest hurdles people are having right now for Akashi to you is just getting access to the curriculum. + +Adam Wozney: In a meaningful easily automated way. So they're updating their signup flow. So all you have to do is basically sign up with Kepler and you have access to the platform and then once you go through the quizzes and watch the demos and understand how to do these things you're going to nft saying you've completed these courses. So they're updating that sign up flow and we're gonna be adding three new curriculums. two are actually created by the community and one was created by a member of overclock Labs one is for purchase and staking akt one is her deploying on spheron and the other is for interacting with stable diffusion on Akash. + +Adam Wozney: So those will be three new curriculums that we're adding we're looking at hopefully before the end of the year. It'd be good to give something to people while everyone's away on vacation and they want to get away from family. They can go take some courses on Akashi to you. But hopefully before the end of the year all these things will be live Akashi, you'll be updated and we kind of see how those things progress if you want to get involved in Akashi to you just head over again to the community Sig Channel and leave your thoughts in there. We're always looking for new curriculum to be created. So if you're interested in participating in that are getting involved heading the Sig Community Channel and Discord and let us know, final two things are first up is actually zeely. So one of our community members Insider and Vanguard who's on this call, actually thankfully Robert Del Rey him and actually one of our other insiders in vanguards. His name is Andre our Andrew you might have seen him in Discord or telegram they + +Adam Wozney: Busy working on zeely which is essentially kind of a Choose Your Own Adventure quiz and task kind of framework for teaching people about different aspects of Akash, and it's something they've been working on for a number of months and it launched a few weeks ago and so far it's been taking off really well so big shout out to those guys for creating it but since Robert you're on the call. I wanted to see if you had any updates or quick thoughts on zealy where things stand there. + +Robert Del Rey: Absolutely. Thank you Adam. Let me add the correct filter. + +00:20:00 + +Adam Wozney: There we go. Perfect. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah guys as you say I'm silly is kicking off really good. I'm so happy to see the feedback we got so far. And the last month we've been doing some updates called we've been talking with Benji also will be helping a lot reviewing the missions and yeah Just for the recording as you say Seeley is a Community Management tool. It helps Community Builders to engage with their community be a missions. The mission can depend. + +Robert Del Rey: How most projects use this is to create and Farm engagement, go to my Twitter retweet my stuff. But the way we're approaching silly on a cash is to make people build a stuff on a cash deploy this site on a cash or as for this talk in India cash test net and when they do that, we give them some experience point and some akt rewards. so that's a little context. We got a few phones to try this pilot. This Friday is gonna be two weeks since we started the pilot. + +Robert Del Rey: And since then over 51 people have tried to interact with a cash silly, which I find that to be a great number. I mean in less than two weeks we got 51 people trying this platform Benji run the calculations today and if we pay out all the rewards today, we would pay out around 430 akt which is 40% of our budget for this prices. So since we want more people to get involved, + +Robert Del Rey: We are going to extend this pilot. So this is an alpha your guys are getting for going in this meeting. We're actually extending this like you say Adam sometimes during the holidays people want to get away from their families. So in case you want to do that, you can step aside and do some silly missions. We're gonna extend this on for January fee. So it's gonna be three more weeks just so this way we can have more people try to build the stuff and earn more akd in their cash and next week have next Monday. We're gonna have our last working group call of the year in case you want to get involved or in case you want to know a bit more join that call. We'll share more updates over there. I will end it here, right? + +Robert Del Rey: Want to think much of your time Adam, but yeah, long story short Series going really good. We have got lots of feedbacks and it's just getting better from here. Alright. + +Adam Wozney: Very cool. Thank you for the update Robert. Yeah, there's a lot going on within zeely. I know you've been working on it for months and seeing it all actually coming together and launched as pretty cool and that's a completely community-owned kind of project. I remember when you kind of pitched the idea a number of months ago is called crew three at the time and I was like, this sounds awesome. I want to help out but there's a bunch going on but I think you got a handle it and to see you actually put it out there with help of other community members has been super cool so good job on that to get involved in the zealy working group. We have a zealy working group channel on Discord if you have thoughts feedback concerns head over there and that's where you can go for that. + +Adam Wozney: My final update is actually just a short one. So this was a project put on by one of our community members. This has live for a number of months. I just put in the chat. It's sdxl and This is basically so you can create imagery using AI all on the Akash Network first time that's ever happened in decentralized way. completely Community owned and operated and I just wanted to highlight that as a really cool project that's live for a while and put on by the community. So if you're looking to do things like this head over to the Sig Community Channel join some of the other sigs that are happening inside of the Discord. That's where Kind of get involved in these kind of activities and actually launch your own Community owned projects like zeli or xdxl and Akash. + +Adam Wozney: Beyond that that's really all I have for the day. Are there any other thoughts concerns agenda items you guys wanted to cover? + +Adam Wozney: honestly that kind of does it for most of the sigs and calls for the year? There's maybe a few more next week in the week after but I think there's maybe three and then it's the new year. So I'm pretty stoked how this first year went in terms of special interest groups and working groups. But yeah, it's been good. But yeah look so we got one from Alani go for it. + +00:25:00 + +Alani Kuye: Hey, what's going on guys? vertical question. Is there a channel on the Discord Some of us who are having fun with sdxl compose some of the cool images that we generated. + +Adam Wozney: That's actually a fun idea. I'm gonna make a note of that. There isn't right now, but I think that's actually a fun idea post images. I know a lot of Discord channels have meme channels where it's Show Your Meme highlight. I mean the reason why I haven't really actively pushed for that or thought about putting up that particular specific type of channel is a lot of memes are kind of moon boy related where it's like watch their token pump and… + +Alani Kuye: Yeah. + +Adam Wozney: the Discord is definitely not that but sdxl on Akash that could be a little cooler because it's not like we're saying posterior, akt moon boy meme on bringing the token but post a cool picture of something that Is about anything as long as it's like… + +Alani Kuye: That you sell. + +Adam Wozney: what an interesting image? we exactly + +Alani Kuye: Yeah that you just don't end up unstable diffusion, right? + +Adam Wozney: Yep, exactly. I actually really like that idea any thoughts on that. I mean I'm gonna do it right after this call. I'm gonna create a channel and I'll kind of put in your images of what xdxl here. Yeah, I think it's a great idea. + +Alani Kuye: That's a bit. + +Adam Wozney: I mean there's been I don't know the exact number Scott you may know I know it's like thousands of yeah,… + +Alani Kuye: 46,000 40 yeah Yeah. + +Adam Wozney: 36,000 images, right 46,000. So I mean that's a lot of images. So I think that's actually a good idea accelerize. It's just people are making them and we don't know about it and we definitely want to highlight that in a tweet or something, + +Alani Kuye: I think I did one yesterday on Twitter that I tagged a power show on. That kind of got some interesting reaction, which is kind of cool. That's where the idea came from. I wonder how many other people are doing the same thing and nobody knows about it, right? + +Adam Wozney: Exactly and I might even here's an idea. What if I label it when I create the channel I say, have you created a really cool image? You want to share from xdsl on Tweet about it and share the link to your Tweet in this channel. So that way it's goes to Twitter and then it also shows up in the Discord and then we can reshare it or do whatever we want with it. I like that tweet about cool. + +Alani Kuye: boom boom + +Adam Wozney: I'm glad you joined the call Alani. + +Alani Kuye: Hey, man, I'm always lurking. + +Robert Del Rey: happy to see + +Alani Kuye: Yeah, same to you. + +Rodrigo Rochin: I don't think the square allows showing Twitter images anymore. And the embedded new things… + +Adam Wozney: Really? interesting. + +Rodrigo Rochin: since it turned to X so we would just see the link. Or maybe it will be a better to upload the image,… + +Adam Wozney: I'll do some experimenting. We'll see I'll start a channel. Yeah, I'll do some short little experiments here to see… + +Rodrigo Rochin: but that would be real cool telling. + +Adam Wozney: If not, I'll put in some sort of lightweight directions. here's what you can do or… + +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, that's a great idea too… + +Adam Wozney: post here. + +Rodrigo Rochin: because they will get to promote their Twitter, too. + +Adam Wozney: Yep, exactly. So yeah, let me work on that beyond that anything else before we wrap up the final special interest group Community call of the year. + +Adam Wozney: No, as always thank you guys for joining the community at Akash wouldn't be the community if it wasn't for you guys. Otherwise, it'd just be me in a Google Hangout recording this message to myself. So thank you guys for participating in the Akashi Community. Thank you for making it what it is. If you have any thoughts feedback questions head over to the Akash Discord the Sig Community Channel or join this thing calls and kind of get involved in different aspects of Akash that way but as always do I want to say thank you for joining and happy New Year and we'll see you in the metaverse. All… + +Alani Kuye: All right. + +Adam Wozney: You guys. + +Robert Del Rey: Stay safe everybody. Thanks Adam. + +Meeting ended after 00:29:34 👋 + diff --git a/sig-design/meetings/022-2024-10-09.md b/sig-design/meetings/022-2024-10-09.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..5c75428e --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-design/meetings/022-2024-10-09.md @@ -0,0 +1,194 @@ +# Akash Network - Design Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #22 + +## Agenda +- Monthly design updates and project reviews. +- Discussion of recent and upcoming events. +- Website updates and working group progress. +- Branding direction and swag shop updates. +- Review of Akash YouTube and Zealy working group submissions. +- Open floor for participant questions and discussions. + +## Meeting details +- Date: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://7rym5lum2stjhqj4hpl76uucxinceiz4e4jfz5acixddrv2icwgq.arweave.net/_HDOrozUppPBPDvX_1KCuhoiIzwnElz0AkXGONdIFY0) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Denis Lelic +- Daniel Idache +- David Idache +- Daniel Ishaya +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes + +### Introduction by Denis Lelic +- Monthly design meeting to review accomplishments, share plans, and focus on design projects like branding, merchandise, video content, and the website. +- September was packed with events (Korean Blockchain Week, Token 249) where new design materials were created. Current events include Permissionless, Cosmoverse, and Neural IPS. + +### Website Updates +- Website working group has improved menu and navigation based on user feedback, making essential content more accessible. +- Continued efforts to enhance website areas with known user issues, with new tasks expected next week. +- Recently introduced a new serif font across presentations, social media posts, and events, aimed to unify Akash’s brand identity. +- Updating illustrations and overall brand identity across all media, including events, merchandise, and social platforms. + +### Swag Shop and Merchandise +- Swag shop improvements are ongoing; Denis expressed interest in accelerating the process, despite other priorities. +- The team aims to add new items to the swag shop but faces limitations as merchandise is not a core business focus. + +### Akash YouTube and Zealy Working Group Updates +- YouTube channel recently received updates, including new thumbnails. A banner redesign is underway to refresh the visual appeal. +- Next working group meeting is scheduled for next week to continue alignment on YouTube content and design. +- **Zealy Design Submissions:** Reviewing community-submitted designs for Akash merchandise: + - **Approval Process:** High-effort designs with Akash branding are considered; low-effort or generic designs are generally declined. + - **Popular Designs:** A few unique, Akash-themed designs (including graphics representing landmarks from Akash conference locations) were highlighted as top submissions. + - **Encouragement for Participation:** Community members are encouraged to submit original designs for potential inclusion in Akash’s merchandise. + +### Open Discussion +- New Members’ Introductions, Denis welcomed Daniel and David as new participants. Daniel clarified that he had attended a previous meeting. +- Design Submissions Scope: Discussion on design concepts, with Denis clarifying that designs should remain relevant to Akash's brand. Robert explained the broader range for Zealy submissions (e.g., hats, notepads, USBs) but noted that unrelated submissions, like home decor, may not be suitable. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis shared a link to Akash’s brand guidelines for those interested in creating designs aligned with the brand. +- Denis reviewed all agenda items and noted that the next monthly design meeting would occur as scheduled, while the next website-focused meeting would take place the following day. + +## Action Items +- Denis to create new issues for upcoming redesign tasks and user experience improvements. +- Robert to proceed with banner redesign and discuss the timeline for publishing committee videos in the next working group call. +- Community members encouraged to submit high-quality designs, with a reminder to avoid AI-generated or low-effort designs. +- Continued work toward adding new items and finalizing the swag shop redesign. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's sick design meeting. I see Daniel and David, I'm not sure if you guys are here for the first time, so just a short intro. And for others, as well, that might be listening to this recording, sick design, meets monthly to discuss all things design related. So, we're covering from branding merchandise, video website, product design. And if necessary we are forming working groups to focus on specific projects. So yeah. + +Denis Lelic: So basically, during these meetings, we reviewed you, what was accomplish in the past month, and share some plans, maybe for the month I had. So as probably everyone's aware September is always packed with events. So some community members and core team were attending Korean Blockchain, weak Token, 249 and I think it happened. Last week and we have permissionless now as we speak. So for each of these events we've designed and produced lots of new materials. From both designs merchandise, giveaways, presentation's, and so on and so on. So + +Denis Lelic: And this month as well, it's just as busy with cosmovers and neural iPS coming in. And of course, permissions as I said is happening as we speak. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe the next topic. A website just from a high level website. Also has a working groups. It's called Working Group, a college website and that group, we're always working to improve the user experience at a new content. Maybe redesigning some of the parts to make the user experience better smoother and So if you guys visited network recently, you'll notice some changes around the menu. So that's a new redesign experience where I believe we solve a couple of issues that were occurring to many users. And now, + +Denis Lelic: Some of the content is easier to find and it's basically resurfacing and we see other issues arising. So because people are aware of these pages now and then what I improve them so in the next week or so I'm just gonna create a bunch of new issues to update those pages redesign them maybe but yeah, plenty of work there in the working group for the website. So, yeah, maybe you've noticed a design direction. On the website. We have this new serif font, we've been using. + +Denis Lelic: Partially in some of the presentation and social media posts and in the events. So, we're Kind of decided to include that serif font and the website as well, and it's becoming this part of the brand Akash as a brand. And next to that there's a new fresh set of illustrations. So now we're gonna make sure to update this brand direction, across all this different touch points. We're having so from events and merge social media videos and so on and so on. And Get us started our work on updating the brand manual and sharing that in different channels and making sure there is the right package to download on the website as well. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe. Another thought, topic around the website. + +Denis Lelic: It's always on the list, So it's the Swag shop with planning to redesign it and add New items. There, I like to see that move into production as soon as possible, but I'm sure everyone is aware of. We are not in the business of creating commerce and swag. So it's kind of always there on the list, but we got other things to do. But yeah, personally, would love to see Dad move into production soon. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: so, I'm just gonna keep it very high level. there's a number of other design projects in the progress, especially around a cash console, which we'll see new experiences rolling out soon. However, I'm glad Robert is here, so maybe he can just share some of the updates From the working groups of Akash YouTube Channel and Zealy. So, maybe Robert you can just start off with YouTube, sharing the updates progress, any blockers. So, anything you feel is worth sharing. So, the stage is yours. + +Robert Del Rey: Absolutely. Thanks Yeah, about due to We had our last working group call a little over a week ago. it last week was quick in a day ago. And yeah, the biggest of the updates was that all the steering committee calls are uploaded with the thumbnail. We designed. Thanks BS. The item that I'm waiting. + +Robert Del Rey: is due to same as Facebook, YouTube lets you add a banner into your channel. So we agreed that the banner was looking a better a little bit dated. and yes, is supposed to send me a draft about an image, a new graphic. Or for that side of the channel. That's the only thing I'm working as far as design goes. + +Robert Del Rey: I was wondering when maybe this is a question for the YouTube working group, but I was wondering When can we go live with the sitting committee videos So yeah, that's mainly. What we have with Akash due to the next YouTube working group call. Should happen. + +Robert Del Rey: we didn't have it this week so next week is Every other week. So feel free to go in to get more involved in a cashew to efforts. I will stop real quick. In case someone has a question or comments about YouTube. Before going to see. + +Robert Del Rey: If not, that's a thoroughly, correct? We have many shots channels that you can jump into and ask your questions or share your comments. We have the attitude Working group, we have the SIG Design Working Group in a cascade and also, we have the Cash City working group. + +Robert Del Rey: Which is my next topic for this. I will share the screen real quick, then I hope you don't mind. I think over the screen. I wanted to share some of the s submissions we had. On ceiling. + +Robert Del Rey: All right. I see the infinite mirror. Let me know if you can see my screen over here. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah. These are some of the submissions that we have pending for review at the moment. + +Robert Del Rey: For a little context, on a cash slug designer mission. In this mission, we're inviting people to design appealing, merge for the cash community. We had some submissions, some of them are decent. Some of them are AI generated. Those submissions and low effort submissions. We are declining them but those look a little bit more appealing for me. Those past usually I ask myself Would I wear this? If the answer is, Yes, it's most likely that For example, this one I left it pending because I wanted to show you here. But this is something that I would for example, + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: As you can see, it has their cash logo. I mean, as reference to a cash but also, it has phone graphics. You can see a little crown here. You can see a cache in phone letters, So yeah, it looks pretty nice. Usually, most of the submissions are As a stamping, the cash logo in a shirt and that's it. And sometimes you have a very oversized, a cash logo in a shirt and that's their submission. I reject those but this one I'm very inclined to approve This one. Moving on, we have this one too. This one it's in a shirt as you can see here. + +Robert Del Rey: This is what I was talking about low effort, submissions, guys. Usually just add a graphic in urge into AMOKOP. Usually this get rejected. But I'm just going to show you so you can have a better idea how they look. The third one, we have current at the moment. This one is a bit more packed. As you can see, the logos are a bit funny. + +Robert Del Rey: But it's kind of different design that is what we're looking for. I guess you can see the school. Had you have this combination of clothing? At least this guy submitted, different designs ideas. Usually, most of the people, they only submit one or two images like this one. So yeah, I want to extend invitation to the audience in the Design working group call. so, if you feel kind of inspired feel free to pass by silly, And in virgin be able to submit your creation. Possibly, this can make it into the cash shop and in the cash community can benefit of their community submissions. That's the idea we have behind this mission. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah other design that I really like it's here. This is actually the content submission that we have here. We are adding the best admissions we have on Sealy. Here, you will find guides images threats in Twitter videos. But for example, this submission, I really like this design a lot. The person told me he wanted to have this in a shirt you can see a cache. It's the public super cloud. I asked him I didn't understand send it to Super Cloud. I don't know what it meant. + +Robert Del Rey: He has to explain me this. But something that I really like was in the bottom. He wanted to add different landmarks of different places that Cash is having conferences. This one is New York. As you can see, here is the current state. This one is the Empire State. This one is the Liberty Statue. and yeah, I mean, it looks Different, it looks good. So yeah, this one actually came from the designs of the previous sprint last month. so yeah, we actually liked this one out of all of the designs. This is the one that we like the most We approve four or five, but this is the only design that made it to taste. List of this document. And these are the ones that we have for the current sprint. + +Robert Del Rey: So, yeah, that is what I wanted to share with you, hopefully to like those designs and hopefully, inspire you to take part in Seeley and… + +Denis Lelic: Cool, thanks Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: the Design Working Group. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah I think we're pretty much aligned on all the submissions. last time we talked about not having any of those AI generated graphics, just because they're Not easy to do but it's like the lowest hanging fruit and It's very low rest. So it's kind of hard to produce that on graphic on a T-shirt and so So + +Denis Lelic: But I do agree at the last graphic, you've shown. Ai messes up the letters but I do agree with the last comment you had for the graphic. You just showed in the dark, you can actually tell someone but some effort there. Think about it, design it, it's readable. It has design elements, it has some sort of a story with This distributed network. So, yeah, I agree. That's probably one of the best entries we had. but I loved the progress you're making with really, and, of course, I'm available, if you need anything design, related all, so on the front for the + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: I got YouTube channel. So as usual, I always try to keep this meeting. Open. So we're covering different topics but a bit from a high level where we can dig deeper is these working groups. So, if anyone is interested, we have working groups for the Akash YouTube channel. We have working groups for working group for a cash website, if you're interested in and the website designing writing content. And so, on feel free to join. + +Denis Lelic: but, Yeah, Daniel David. I think you're here for the first time so we want to say something. Ask anything, feel free to but don't be obliged to speak. You can just listen in the background. Yes, Robert + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, that is. I quickly forgot to say the secret word for Seeley. in Silly, we have a mission about the Design Working Group trying to incentivize people to join this particular call and hopefully get them involved in design. So, I say a secret word, They submit this work in the City mission and they get some extra XP points. Which convert to akat prices. So the secret word for the design mission, it's going to be the same. As always swag swag. I'll send it in the shed for the record and it's swag as W. A G. + +Robert Del Rey: You can listen now or in the recording go to Siri and submit this secret word and you'll be able to earn some extra XP points. And yeah, that was it. Thanks then. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, thank you. Rob. Daniel I think your hand went up. if you want to talk, feel free to + +Denis Lelic: Okay, cool. + +daniel ishaya: He? + +daniel ishaya: Hello. + +Denis Lelic: Hello. + +daniel ishaya: Yeah, I just said my name mentioned and people joining the code for the first time I want to just call it that I was, but of the last call. That jersey. + +Denis Lelic: That's great. Sorry. + +daniel ishaya: Okay. Yeah. Me. + +Denis Lelic: Can you repeat that? + +daniel ishaya: Are there? + +Denis Lelic: Sorry, I couldn't. + +daniel ishaya: Hello. Yeah,… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I can hear you. + +daniel ishaya: I was part of the last call. I just want to correct the impression. This is not my first time or joining the code. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, sorry about Anything specific you want to talk about while you have the mic + +daniel ishaya: Yeah, no So designs and is he only including, or you can have another different concept on the design, because from what display is just majorly, including Can it be maybe car housing or anything? of that nature music including + +Denis Lelic: A car and… + +Robert Del Rey: I believe I can take this one Denis. + +Denis Lelic: a house. Yeah, maybe I'll just Leave one thought it should be somehow Akash related. So, I'm not really sure that the house and a car and a car goes with a cash. But, feel free to + +Denis Lelic: try things, share them and we'll discuss them later. Yeah, Robert. Sorry. Go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, you just want to quickly add that Daniel in case you are referring to the city mission. yeah, we are open to pretty much like any kind of merch you can see hats T-shirts, we even seen A six USB sticks. Notepads also logs. So yeah, feel free to be creative. Let me tell you, there was one person that submitted hurricanes Chord things and sheets and it was like a bedroom and a cash pin bedroom. Right? It was really funny. But ultimately, we're rejected it because + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I mean, as a cash community members like that is not super appealing for the community. Usually things are more developer oriented and not like houses thought, if you know what I mean. But yeah, just wanted to share some talks about it. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert shared Brazilian link. So Daniel David if you guys are interesting. Feel free to talk to Robert me or just clicking here on this. Link in the chat section and feel free to Whatever you think it's worth designing and it's kind of representing Akash and a good manner. So yeah, go for it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, just going quickly through my notes. I think we covered very much everything we had to cover. If you guys want to discuss anything else, feel free to otherwise I suggest we wrap it up. We meet tomorrow again, just for the purpose of the website, but this design meeting is happening every month. So Interested, feel free to join and we'll see each other next month. + +Robert Del Rey: Awesome, thank you so much Denis. Alright, stay safe everybody. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Robert YouTube have a good day. Bye-bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:22:22 👋 diff --git a/sig-economics/meetings/020-2024-10-09.md b/sig-economics/meetings/020-2024-10-09.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..dc0c83a8 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-economics/meetings/020-2024-10-09.md @@ -0,0 +1,317 @@ +# Akash Network - Economics Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #20 + +## Agenda +- Recap of the previous meeting and recent developments +- Updates on various proposals and initiatives +- Discussion on community contributions and funding mechanisms +- Open floor for ideas, feedback, and questions + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, October 09, 2024 +- Time: 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://heto6ceypzwojxh56rfumjss6fsa3rhjrkrany22ap37qvorf6ba.arweave.net/OSbvCJh-bOTc_fRLRiZS8WQNxOmKogbjWgP3-FXRL4I) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Scott Hewitson +- Cheng Wang +- Robert Del Rey +- Joao Luna +- +1 502-***-**15 +- B S +- Dominikus Brian +- James Kano +- Kaylem +- Robert Koschig +- Rodri R + +## Meeting Notes + + +### Recap and Updates +- **August Meeting Recap**: + - Previous meeting had low turnout, no full recording. Scott provided a summary of key points discussed in the August meeting. + - Topics included the Provider Incentives program and updates on the Zealy campaign. + +- **Provider Incentives**: + - [Dashboard shared](https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/1/reporting/f2f8fe80-97cd-45cd-bbd0-17826eab5ae5/page/BIUND) to track community pool spending and provider incentives. + - Scott highlighted transparency in community pool spending, noting the creation of [reporting areas](https://github.com/akash-network/community/tree/main/community-pool-spend-reporting) for community pool-funded projects. + +- **Recent Proposals**: + - **Cosmos SDK 47**: A key proposal that passed, enabling funds and efforts to upgrade to Cosmos SDK 47. + - **Community Support Funding**: Approved, with community bounties to encourage contributions. Noted as a recurring proposal now in its seventh quarter. + - **Console 2.0 Proposal**: + - Cheng provided a detailed update on Console 2.0, focusing on cloud deployment and Akash payment integration, including trial wallets and credit card payment features. + - Currently in closed beta, the Console 2.0 platform aims to improve UX and streamline operations. + - Testing ongoing, with an expected release within a month or two. + +### Key Discussion Points +- **Provider Incentives Program (PIP)**: + - PIP Zero-One Summary: Initial PIP successfully allocated funds to bring providers on board, with all funds allocated as per the initial proposal. + - PIP Zero-Two: The new PIP will consolidate phases, focusing on expanding resources. Estimated budget: $10 million. + +- **Community Engagement**: + - Community proposals continue to be a priority, ensuring funds and bounties remain available for contributors. + - Encouragement to community members to bring forward ideas for leveraging the community pool for Akash Network growth. + +- **Console 2.0 Features**: + - Integration of credit card payments and free trials to remove barriers for Web2 developers unfamiliar with blockchain onboarding. + - Aim to reduce the learning curve by minimizing complexities related to crypto and wallet setup. + - Positive beta feedback, with initial partners engaging with Console 2.0’s trial features. + +### Community Contributions +- **Zealy Campaign**: + - Robert discussed the success of the Zealy campaign to incentivize participation in Akash Network activities. + - Secret words provided to attendees for extra points on Zealy. + - Plan to continue expanding the Zealy campaign, with community feedback being gathered for future improvements. + +- **Community Growth and Strategic Expansion**: + - Cheng mentioned the need for native Korean speakers to support Akash's expansion in the Asia-Pacific region. + - Community pool funding is structured to enable pilot projects with Overclock Labs’ support, which may migrate to community-funded initiatives after proven success. + +### Open Floor and Q&A +- **Community Pool Health**: + - Joao Luna raised questions on metrics for evaluating community pool health, suggesting a focus on effective fund allocation rather than simply growing the pool size. + - Cheng proposed using clear indicators like network utilization and specific project performance metrics to track ROI for funded initiatives. + - Scott highlighted community pool inflow mechanisms and current tax parameters for supporting community pool growth. + +- **Stable Payments and Token Pools**: + - Joao Luna and Cheng discussed stable payment integration challenges and the need for a unified approach to token pool security. + - Proposal to document a common methodology for handling token buffers and secure payment processing across platforms using Akash. + - Cheng suggested potential collaboration to co-author a specification document. + +### Closing Remarks +- Scott thanked the attendees and encouraged ongoing feedback and contributions. +- Call to action for anyone interested in contributing or bringing forth ideas to utilize the community pool for Akash Network’s development. + +## Action Items +- **Scott Hewitson**: + - Continue monitoring and reporting on community pool spending. + - Share updates on Console 2.0 progress, including trial feedback and UX improvements. +- **Cheng Wang**: + - Collaborate with Joao Luna on a joint document to standardize stable payment solutions and secure token buffer management. + - Prepare a draft for PIP Zero-Two to outline funding allocations and strategic priorities. +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Gather feedback from the community on the Zealy campaign to iterate on future incentivization strategies. + +# **Transcript** + +Scott Hewitson: Alrighty, Welcome everybody. It's October 9th for this month's installment of Sick, Economics. I know last month we had A low turnout, a lot of things going on. And so we didn't end up doing a full meeting or recording. So I'll kind of give a recap of August call and anything that's transpired. Since I know, Cheng will be jumping on the call soon, if he's got any updates, and then we can open the floor up to ideas and concerns or anything that anyone wants to talk about. with that, Let's start with. So the August call talked a little bit about the Provider Incentives program. There was a zeely campaign update. I know Robert may speak on that a little bit. + +Scott Hewitson: One action item. I had was to share the pit dashboard which I've done and I'll drop it right here. This is for provider incentives. And this is also in the community's pool spending reporting that I'll drop the link to as well trying to have folk anytime folks are using community pool funds and want to show a dashboard or just how they're spending. There's an area to do it. Let's see, from the proposal side. Since August. So there was the inflation update which we had talked about the last recorded call. There's been A + +Scott Hewitson: There is a proposal that went up to reduce the take rate for Akt and Usdc and maybe can talk a little bit about that in a moment. Then we had the effort for Cosmos Sdk47 that hit on chain and passed. So funds received, it's a big effort from Overclock and some core members to upgrade the Cosmos Sdk47. And then finally one that passed last week is just a quarterly for community support and those proposals have been going on. for I think six quarter seven quarters now. So that's your vanguard's bounties. Just smaller dollars to unlock community for contributions. And let's see what else we got. + +Scott Hewitson: From the standpoint of new discussions. I know Cheng dropped in another funding proposal for Console 2.0 and that's kind of in the same format as the Cosmos Sdk47 funding request. So I'll let him Talk about that in a moment. And I think that's kind of all as far as a recap. Does anyone want to bring up anything? + +Scott Hewitson: As of right now otherwise I can turn it over to a chain to talk about Cosmos. Just give a high level on the Cosmos Sdk47 prop and then this console 2.0 prop Yeah. All right, doesn't look like there's any questions so Cheng if you don't mind, can you talk a little bit about Sdk47 cause her console 2.0 props that we put up? Or will. + +Cheng Wang: For sure, Scott, thank you always for running it and great introduction and coverage there for the Cosmos Sdk47 proposal, as well, as the console 2.0 for cost payment specifically. So, Console 2.0 is a massive endeavor. If you guys look on the Github board, as far as what it covers, The first component of console 2.0 was done a little while ago, in terms of integrating the cloud nose acquisition in their software and everything to create a cohesive singular deployment experience, right? And that's kind of the new console constant 2.0. The second component is the akash payments and embedded within cost payments are + +Cheng Wang: Trial wallets, right? The kind of account abstraction loosely, if you can call it that as well as credit card payment features. So those are already in kind of a closed beta scenario and it's accessible and stuff like that. You guys want to tink around and play with it. Let us know. We can drop a link right and we'll ultimately hopefully push that live within the next month or two. Is the idea here you want to, obviously there's some UX revamp that we need to do make things a little better cleaner and just look nicer and operation smoother obviously and a lot of internal testing is going into this as well. And yeah. So the sdk47 stuff is I believe + +Cheng Wang: Feature complete, if not extremely close, it's now getting ready. Toled up for testnet, which will be finding engage some of the more technical insiders to really give it a go. The core engineering team is getting ready for that state. So hopefully, that should come within a week or two and so please say Keep an eye out for that. So yeah, those are the two items thus far and looking down the + + +### 00:05:00 + +Cheng Wang: Looking down the road a little bit. We'll have pip zero two that will put out for discussion and github. Probably will definitely this week, so I'm excited to launch that. As you. Thank you, Scott again for putting together the dashboard on Pipzero one. As you guys can see, we've maxed out we've committed to a kind of all the budget that was originally allocated. And those providers have, this endeavor I think the original proposal, rather, we started in February, we committed to our first contract in March, I don't say end of March. So we're reconciling all the invoices and stuff like that and of course, we'll share that data publicly as soon as we kind of gather all that stuff together as promise in the reporting and transparency side of things and for zero two it's going to be a larger tranche. We're anticipating a 10 million dollar tranche the first one was five million and the first pit actually was ructured supposedly it was discuss into three phases phase. One was the committed pool phase two. + +Cheng Wang: another liquidity pool component and then phase three, I believe was R&D. So kind of the future Gen chips if you will. So we're going to essentially not do phases, two and three. And in the new PIP, Zero two rolled, the R&D portion just into the committed pool because we realized that's the best way to go forward to for a guarantee period of time. Have to be stable not have kind of supply coming in and out, And that's the reason why we're going to just do phase one again just bigger this time. In PIP, Zero two and for liquidity Pool, Comparch portion, we're not going to do that yet because again, the verify compute is important for + +Cheng Wang: Obviously reasons as you've seen another copycats in the space, Simple attacks and fraud is rampant. if you can improve what you own and what you have on the network. So that's really important to us. We've been here at a college doing things. the community has been doing things in a very measured and the methodical fashion. We don't want to straight away from that and kind of get the sugar high of bringing on resources if they're not real. Number one, and number two we don't want to bring on resources that are unreliable. What we mean is this, in the liquidity pool structure, if there are a bunch of people contributing resources, those resources are by nature. Extremely + +Cheng Wang: It's a mixed bag right, it's heterogeneous, So if I'm a AI company looking to come in and deploy on 180 age, 100 or whatever it is. And even if I can call it together, a big network of those things, there's no guarantee that each one is structured, it's gonna be structured a little differently. So it's gonna be very, very hard for large customers to come in and they have been knocking on our door too. + +Cheng Wang: To get started with akash rate. So that's one part of it. Two is because of the ephemeral nature of liquidity pools, people can jump in and out. And that's of course, if you're deploying production workloads, you don't want your machines to just jump in and out whenever, right? Because you depend on it for your livelihood. And so as a result, all those things which I'll clearly outline in the upcoming github discussion we'll be outlined there and then obviously feedback and engagement from the communities. always, welcome. So I'm looking forward to having those lively discussions once again. And this time there are a lot of learnings that we took from the first pit. We'll leverage into the second one and this is going to be, a bigger size reason that it's gonna be bigger is like I mentioned there are people who have come to the core team and ask for more resources than the network currently has specifically in H100 categories. Yeah. So that's what I got there. I mean, if + +Cheng Wang: Any questions? + +Scott Hewitson: That's great. Thank you Cheng, for all that color on it. One thing I do want to bring up on pit. one as well, so we requested funds, we're setting up contracts with folks, but I want to call out that all funds that these providers are making are being sent back to the community pool. So, as of right now, we've spent 2.1 million dollars, that's spent to date and we've returned a hundred and fourteen thousand Akt. So around 25,300 grand. So it is community pool funding and any money that those providers do make. We want to make sure it goes back to the community. we're not doing it to Overclock, it's not doing it to make money. We're doing it to ensure. There's resources on the network that people can deploy to and have good resources. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Scott Hewitson: yeah, that's it for from one other thing, I wanted to call out from the standpoint of the Cosmos SDK proposal that Overclock put up as well as the console 2.0. that will go up. Luna 10 million It's is the number as of right now. So, we've been putting in these on those props. We called out like a liquidity buffer, just because Akt is volatile asset. So, there was some excess funds requested because all we care about is a US dollar amount. + +Scott Hewitson: I will say from Cosmos Sdk47 so we use a couple market makers. Some folks to help liquidate things and in a way that's not going to affect markets. I think that the request for Sdk47 was around 377 Grand and we had a, liquidation strategy in place. It just so happened. That Akt pump like crazy. And so we were able to lick liquidate over 400,000 in Akt. I think the actual request, the funds that we wanted was around, 250 K. So we over liquidated some funds but it was all during a pump. So tvd what we want to do with those leftover funds, I think it's about 180,000 but Cheng and I spoke internally and I think an idea an option is to basically put return funds back to the + +Scott Hewitson: You pull a stables so there's a chunk of stables in the community pool that people can request. I know, For some of the smaller requests, people don't want the exposure, they just want to, get funding. So I think that might be a good avenue. I've thought about it before. And, I've thought about just putting up a proposal to get a couple hundred grand and then liquidate it and throw it right back in. the community pool is kind of the community's treasury. So we can diversify that you look at Adam and Osmosis they've got some stable coins in their community pool as So I think that would be, Not really a happy mistake but it's making lemonade out of lemons. + +Scott Hewitson: So I think that's a way forward. I'll probably drop a note on it somewhere, but if anyone has any concerns or questions on that, feel free to the hit me up or drop a note and see economics and discord. For Console 2.0. It does have the liquidity buffer as well, but we're gonna make sure that once we hit our fiat, number it stops, and then those funds will return as Akt. But I just wanted everyone to be kind of aware of that. I think it's net good for the community pool. let's see. What else do I wanted to talk about? Yeah, I think that's kind of all I have at the moment Cheng. Is there any other items you want to talk about? For now. Okay. + +Cheng Wang: yes, I do Actually some were related to Sega economics, but more of a slight tangent, but I would do want to say in terms of more + +Cheng Wang: People within the community have been working more closely with the project and with the core team over time, So obviously we have some community stalls here. Ryan Robert who's been with us forever and others I see and Don't me For example, I see him on the call, he's a new joiner as far as within the greater apparatus of the Akash ecosystem and working more closely with the core team and using more so of the community pool to fun, some of these operations and, of course, Overclock labs has, been very, I think, open with, bringing people in and testing them and then if it works we'll go to the community pool. So the structure is largely been if there's a pilot program or something we want to start, we'll often test it with overclock treasury and if there's very tangible at us value, add to the community will migrate that to the community pool and make it completely public and open, obviously taking the risk initially of running the pilot. + +Cheng Wang: Internally first, but a lot of people have been joining and I'm super bullish on that. And so if there are folks, whatever your level of expertise, and if you're engaged in a caution want to help out in any way shape or form from the, marketing side to, talking about a college representing, a caution in any way shape or form online or otherwise, please let us know. We definitely are expanding our footprint more so because, a couple of months ago, we were listed on up and hit them in Korea. And that's a very important market for us as well, So, if there are folks out there who are native, Korean speakers or Korean natives, whatever it is. If anyone wants to make a connection or encourage those folks, to help join the accost Community, 100% welcoming with open arms as we build out, kind of an apac Asia-Pacific right strategy there. So + + +### 00:15:00 + +Cheng Wang: that's what I'd say in regards that please keep the community contributions coming and thank you all for being a part of this. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you Cheng for that update. Yeah. I think just to kind of quickly add on that. I think something that Akash does well that, contributes to our success is. There's so many different avenues for funding. There's different ways for people to contribute and get funds. nties, we've got a delegations, there's community pool stuff. there's always ways to get money at, and I think our community is a good job of weeding out those that are not versus providing value, so please continue to do so and really appreciate everyone's efforts. It's, Overclock is a small team, the community just, we wouldn't be able to do anything without the community. So I really really appreciate everyone and the efforts they're doing there. + +Scott Hewitson: that's all I really had. Does anyone want to bring anything forward or talk about any programs or any ideas? Yeah, Robert go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Also, thank you for those words guys before talking about silly, I quickly want to say that. I feel very happy thankful and proud for being part of this community. Luna early b s is here China. geez already but also it's good seeing new people coming in and saying Hey I want to be here and be part of this, in the case of Tommy, for example, a cash alpha, it's another one he's in his call as well. And yeah, yeah, so big props to everybody, I guess. Let's keep up that heat, right? So, yeah, I wanted to quickly. Talk you tell you about the Seek, Economics, working group called Mission on Silly. This is one of the missions that we have in this campaign, hopefully to + +Robert Del Rey: A motivated people to get involved in the different initiatives in their cash, ecosystem. We have, Sega economics. We have yesterday the community monthly call tomorrow. We have their cash website. Those are calls that we are incentiviring people for joining if they join. I will say They can take that secret word, go to Sealy, and get some extra points, which is good, But the main goal of that is hopefully we can make people get more involved in the different campaigns or initiative that we have. so the secret word for six economics, if you're listening guys, it's gonna be talking Like a cash, token token, T, o, k E N. And as in November, I will leave it in the shot, you can + +Robert Del Rey: or listen in the recording. Go to silly and be able to earn some extra XP points. Yeah, thank you. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you Robert and really great effort on the zeely thing. that just for everyone's aware I said it started out as a little pilot program we used bounty dollars for they had some success and went to the community pool requested some more funds and then did it again. So it's kind of proof that no matter where you start there's funding avenues to get you going. And yeah I mean I know there's been some good folks that are coming out of that program so really appreciate that. Robert + +Scott Hewitson: All right. Let's see, does anyone else have anything that else they'd like to bring up or any ideas or concerns or just that kind of anything at all? It's a open floor. we love here and ideas, we love Getting feedback and I'm trying to make things go a little bit better. + +Scott Hewitson: nothing today, okay. + +Joao Luna: I do have some really fun tomorrow like curiosity so How are we measuring or… + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. + +Joao Luna: Would you measure the health of a community pool? So Hey I can see the base image swear. Let's like this hobby is how much you spend versus how mature? Getting it in the community pool but I will tracking this are we measuring the healthiness or just looking at the fun. So many are there and not really looking. It's spelled sure over time. And I mean this a forecast of what we can expect to have on the community pool. Do you have any insights on that? + + +### 00:20:00 + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I mean I'll say go ahead Cheng. + +Cheng Wang: yeah, over you can go for indoors to go after you. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, the community pool is filling at a rate, I think it's 40% tax right now, from inflation inflations currently at 13% so 40%, that's going to the community pool. It's continuously getting larger. for me, just kind of anecdotally. I look and see some of the other cosmos chains. I think caught or Adam has. Let's see what they have. They've got 43 million in that, we were sitting at 27 million osmosis that 38 million, because in theory, Overclock should just be one entity that is drawing from the community pool. We would love for many entities to be drawing from the community pool. And so it kind of hard from the standpoint of requesting or projecting. + +Scott Hewitson: I mean, we overclocked, we can kind of project what we're planning on asking, but as far as what anyone from the community comes up with, it'd be harder to get an idea on that I think, because we have parameter change proposals to, we can kind of turn the knobs. I mean, the community pool was not healthy at all, a year year and a half ago. we bumped up the tax and so now I'd say it's healthy right now. obviously there's a + +Joao Luna: I mean, when I say healthy, I don't mean it's getting bigger. And for me, Something that self is something that's being spent. Unlike useful stuff. As we are,… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. + +Joao Luna: the communities funds are being used in a smart way. + +Scott Hewitson: Like an ROI. + +Scott Hewitson: In Roi versus yeah. + +Joao Luna: Yeah, yeah,… + +Joao Luna: So that would be fun or… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. I, + +Joao Luna: interesting at least to have Some kind of metrics on these, we are spending at a rate where we can afford, through three years of continuous advanced in these specific areas. That's interesting to me. + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, I think if I can jump in quickly here, I see where you're going. And I think in order to do that, we're kind of doing this already and Scott's been doing all the heavy lifting behind this in terms of reporting where we're spending the money, So if you break it down into the different proposals the community and those OCL has been requesting for one part is. Let's just say + +Cheng Wang: Cosmos SDK a cost payments. Those are features, right? That are going to be released like Sdk47, maybe a little bit harder to judge, but let's just say, as far as, direct measurable impact. But, let's just say with s, the free trial, as well as the credit card payments, if it's successful over the next couple of quarters. Once it's launched, we should see utilization increased dramatically And so currently one of our hypotheses is that a lot of people who come into the network looking for compute, run into this big wall. I mean, I'm sure you guys all recall, Fondly or not. When we all got started in crypto, It was a little bit of a trial, He had to figure a lot of stuff out. I know. I have sent a random transaction or into the ether and just disappeared, I mean and made some mistakes. So, with a Web 2 developer, you can imagine, they don't want anything to do with crypto or they just don't want to engage in this mental. + +Cheng Wang: Exercise. You have to start a wall-e. Have to write down a seed phrase. What the hell is a seed phrase? Don't have to store this somewhere. what, all the stuff is super taxing for the person individual, right? Or people? And so if our hypothesis is correct, and this is a feature that works. then we should see utilization leases, as well as spend go up consistently over time. Once this feature is released, That's one part. I can say anecdotally since this is in beta and we've been testing it, the feedback has been quite good What it has enabled us to do is share the free trial link to partners who potentially want to use the caution they can literally get started. There's one person who am I met in New York and I'm sorry. May not want to get Dropping this thing and immediately was able to get the trial and get started and just start to play around with things without us coming to us. Hey set up a wallet. We'll send you some Akt but blah so it's already. I think paying some dividends but I think + + +### 00:25:00 + +Cheng Wang: R's, direct output. That's what we can expect to see from Another one out, and I'll just put a pin in from as an example. Is provider incentives, one, right? That was a big one. Five million bucks. Probably is one of the biggest things we ever done is Have we been able to successfully bring on a good bunch of GPUs onto network? I think we have Number two. How were they lize? So I think the a6000s are over 50% utilized. If not more on average, Quite consistently by one of a big partner, in neural that we were able to partner up with and deploy their workloads on the H100s via Venice, And others, I think those h100 are 75 if not 80 plus percent utilize there. So that's been really powerful and the 490s I think have been fluctuating a little bit, and the most expensive resource tier that we were able to get through this particular program on the network has been able to one baseline, get our GP. + +Cheng Wang: Count up, right? And those GPU accounts are unlike some other places anyway, I digress. and then the second of all the utilization has been quite good. Enabling us right to work with some partners that we wouldn't have been able to otherwise. And they've been able to, obviously drive network, spend up, obviously, fluctuates between three and five K, but it's been able to steadily ratchet up over time, if you look at the stats out of Koschigo proof point as far as the success there. It's not all woven together, but I think those are some examples and I can give and last one I know I said before but the two other ones would be cloud, most and prayer. So obviously the cloud most acquisition, we're able to integrate. The cloud, most experience with the cost experience to create one native console and I think that has paid dividends the console looks way better and way more functional than previously, we don't have two different places that people have to go to, which is a good thing that unlocks the ability to develop + +Cheng Wang: Payment solution, right? for constitute auto and I think that's great and preter as far as working on more features that will allow for better and more seamless. Provider management. lots of some stuff has come through that already I don't know who among you here are aware of it, but essentially enabling providers to set up a Kubernetes cluster much faster than they historically, or instead of taking hours, It takes minutes, right? So that's another thing. And hopefully, I mean, you guys, if you follow Github, There are As I think already out there. Hopefully they'll be merged into course soon and we'll have a truly. I think payments, it takes precedent, but once that's done, we'll be able to actually deliver. Hopefully, by before the end of the year, a truly cohesive console that has a tenant portal and a provider portal all in one place. So you can kind of move between the two and + +Cheng Wang: I think those are some good things, And that'll hopefully Let providers manage their stuff on a console versus right now. You have to do everything quite manually. So that'll be exciting. So those are my long-winded examples of I think What we've requested versus what the impact and the positive impacts are And obviously community events as well, but that's a little bit different. Hope that helps. + +Joao Luna: That made total sense. And that leaves was second question. Your example, at least after the first one you gave and let me know if it's out of scope for this special interest group perhaps can get a little bit technical. + +Joao Luna: the fiat payments that you have moment. must somehow used a pool of tokens to operate on powerful user. I have this idea we have implemented stable payments for the Akash network on our classroom as well. So we've been running through it and our implementation uses the pool of tokens that used Whenever user doesn't operation and there's this pullbacks the whole platform and abstract and it's abstracted by the stable payments. Is this pool on your side? Being funded? By the community pool. Somehow is Overclock Labs. Hosting these tokens and feeding the platform. How are you handling it? + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, great question. and the current way we're doing it is + +Cheng Wang: At least initially, while this is getting kicked off the ground. The fastest way is exactly how you illustrate. It is Overclock labs. We'll put a portion of his treasury towards enabling this to function. So that's going to mean number one like Akt tokens, right? and the Overclock Labs Organization will absorb any potential exchange differences, Because, when someone comes in and they buy a thousand dollars worth of credits that $1,000 can go up or down, in Akt terms, right? And so, if it moves against us, we'll eat that difference. If it goes the other way, great less Akt out the door. so that's going to be the bridge temporarily. So as far as how will migrate later on to, I would love to potentially migrate to, stable payments, right? Because still it creates back to Akt… + + +### 00:30:00 + +Joao Luna: Okay. Yeah. + +Cheng Wang: because of the take great. It'll just be a lot less volatility, Because a dollar is a dollar as a dollar unless there's + +Cheng Wang: Tag. And… + +Joao Luna: But then all the providers must support that, right? + +Cheng Wang: then we + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, I think we'll have to migrate towards a standard Maybe but I think the options are open there and of course, another thing that's like, down the pike potentially, I don't want to overstate for the core team. Don't let Archer hear this is pack your forwarding right? That wouldn't enable. Hopefully a more streamlined or seamless use of stable payments on Akash, Because certainly the usdc is kind of wonky, right? The to get it in the way to unwind it. It's kind of painful. but beyond that, I'd say, in the interim Overclock Labs Treasury is creating that exchange pool to enable credit card payments. And then, in the future, we'll have to think about different Mitigants potentially creating separate pools, using community funds to help create that, buffer, whatever the case of me, right? I think those are our future problems that future. + +Cheng Wang: Akash will solve, but right now is going to be this + +Joao Luna: I mean, I have a lot of interest on this topic, I'm not sure it's just fall around Have some kind of Blog posts are detailed specification of how this could be implemented. Because it was so yeti. Is that you've sold the problem? I've solved the problem. + +Cheng Wang: Good idea. + +Joao Luna: I'm pretty sure other platforms that use the Akash network and had stable payments solve this problem. Perhaps you can achieve a common specification on how this must be done. And for instance, if we are so to support usdc pools and application saying, providers must Have usdc support if they want to benefit from the staple payments and be more adopted on these third-party platforms. The idea is just to not lose efforts solving the same problems on different teams because these takes time,… + +Cheng Wang: That's fair. + +Joao Luna: it's not a difficult problem, but It takes expertise, and perhaps could be useful, just a proposal. To Do This document, + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if You down for a co-authoring, a piece Luna, let's do it. + +Joao Luna: I mean, sure that's let's talk and see. + +Cheng Wang: Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Great idea. I love it. I think we should do it. + +Scott Hewitson: And just to add on that. I mean, Once those that comes all that code will be open source. Correct Cheng or I mean, aside from the actual payment side because I know there's integration with stripe but everything leading up to a person's ID and… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. Yeah. + +Scott Hewitson: credit cards should be open, source and theory. + +Cheng Wang: That's Yeah, obviously the payment processing and stuff. That has to be private. Someone has to hold the final person to hold the hot potato. if someone does anything bad and we need to go pursue somebody, right Overclock Labs, holds the final potato. + +Joao Luna: Yeah, but I mean even the security of the keys to these pools and… + +Scott Hewitson: Right out. + +Joao Luna: buffers of tokens, perhaps that could be a specification on how you should secure, how I should handle this and be like a common on this broad platforms. + +Cheng Wang: Very point. Yeah, for Yeah. Because it's not trivial. Yeah. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, no. Thank you for that Luna and looking forward to seeing what you and Cheng come up with should be good. Does anyone else have anything or Luna? Do you want to talk anymore about that or anything else before we move… + +Joao Luna: So I'm good. + +Scott Hewitson: Okay, awesome. + +Joao Luna: Thank you. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you. As always, I mean, you're, an OG contributor and really appreciate everything you're doing, you're helping progress the space forward. So Much kudos to you. Alrighty. Is there anyone else that wants to up Call anything out. Tell me where I'm being done. Anything like that. The floor is open. + + +### 00:35:00 + +Scott Hewitson: I changed you have anything else you want to add? If not, we can cut, the call short, 20 minutes. + +Cheng Wang: I'm good. + +Scott Hewitson: Give everybody 20 minutes back. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you all. Thank you Scott. + +Scott Hewitson: Alrighty, appreciate everybody and yeah, let me know if you need anything, if you ever have any ideas or anything at all, please drop into SIG economics. I think I said it before, I'll say it again. we love good ideas. We love unblocking folks so they can build out their good ideas. So Yeah. With that. I hope everyone has a good day and we'll talk soon. + +Joao Luna: Thank… + +Cheng Wang: Take care, everyone. See you next time. + +Joao Luna: Have a good day and stay safe from the Hurricanes and… + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks. + +Cheng Wang: See everyone. Thank you. + +Joao Luna: all that. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:36:06 👋 diff --git a/sig-providers/README.md b/sig-providers/README.md index 31598339..df50672f 100644 --- a/sig-providers/README.md +++ b/sig-providers/README.md @@ -35,8 +35,8 @@ Provider SIG covers everything pertinent to Providers on Akash Network. 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Awaiting triage from the engineering team. + 2. **Discount Scheme:** Implemented a staking-based discount scheme for providers, allowing users to receive discounts based on their staked Akt. + - Suggested it could be highlighted in a blog for wider awareness. Tyler agreed to follow up on this. + +- **GPU Labeling & Scaling Concern (Andrew Mello):** + - Criticized the manual process of labeling GPUs, calling for automation using Nvidia APIs. + - Warned that the current approach could hinder scalability, especially as the provider network grows. + - Tyler acknowledged the concern and promised to follow up with the core engineering team for clarification and feedback on why the automated solution wasn’t pursued. + +- **Open Discussion:** + - Tyler reminded participants to check the provider announcements channel regularly for updates. + - Discussed a recent message about the “Kill zombie parent script” in the provider announcements channel. + +- **Closing Remarks by Tyler Wright:** + - Action items from the meeting will be followed up in subsequent SIG meetings or asynchronously in relevant channels. + - Thanked everyone for their participation and reminded them of the steering committee meeting happening the next day. + +## Action Items +- **Jigar & Deval:** Continue testing Akash Console 2.0 and provide updates to the provider channel as the beta phase approaches. +- **Tyler Wright:** Follow up with Andrew on the discount scheme blog post and ensure its wider publication. +- **Tyler Wright:** Provide clarification on the decision to avoid Nvidia API integration for GPU labeling. +- **Andrew Mello:** Reshare details of the staking-based discount scheme with Tyler for further review and publication. +- **All Providers:** Regularly check the provider announcements channel for important updates. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody. To providers monthly meeting for September. + +Tyler Wright: Over 25th 2024 during this special interest group for providers. The ecosh community, talked about anything related to their cost provider. Sometimes we talk about pooling upgrades the Previously again a team led by Jigarette Ball built a tool called Prater. that is now a part of Akash console. So they've given us updates on all the work that they've been doing great and again and now around to cost console and then be opened up to any conversations from anybody on the call in the community. I know that there's been some talk about provider configs for the cost, I work out. So again I'm not sure the person is not currently here, but that might be something that we talked about later on. But yeah, again all of the meetings are + +Tyler Wright: Hub under the providers subfolder in the community repo. But usually again I'll just hand it over to maybe Jigger and Deval to talk about how things are going with the provider portion of a cost console which they're working on. That's a part of their console 2.0 work. So Jigarette device kick it over to you to just give the community an update and all the things that you're got going on. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, so we are currently working on the process of becoming a provider in There is a working progress, PR that is across console Github. And currently where we are, testing internally of the whole new PCs process with the multi note and different personality around it. And we are confident that it's going in the right direction. And yeah, we'll meet us soon to test it out. + +Jigar Patel: And then, if that guy's successfully tested any boxes, books are fixed. Then we'll erase that to the public. But yeah, the progress is going good. And I'm thankful to Scott with his hair upon k3s scripts, the process become easier and we're like taking that itself bits and pieces of that script into our process on. That makes three years multinod. So that was the biggest change in our process where for multinodes we were using KAS, which was having process we had to do. + +Jigar Patel: A lot of installations and processes on the provider side, which now is okay. Here is much simpler and lightweight. And yeah, we're experimenting with that. Yeah, once that's in a beta, will put update into the ecosystem better and into the provider channel as well. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank you there. does anyone have any questions on update from Jigaron? Duval on the work? They're doing around the provider side of the cosh Council which again is currently pay to work. + +Tyler Wright: One question, I think you all have talked about this previously, jigar, but have you all started to think about a migration path. If there's one necessary from prey tour to their trash console, or people got to spin down resources and spin them back up. Yeah, the console, when it's in proud, + +Jigar Patel: so if they are already on a single node, that might be a way to Migrate them to the new console, but if there are no multinode or structure where Kate s is used then. Yes, there will They need to, take it down and I think everybody can add more on this topic. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Go ahead. Deval + +Deval Patel: In the migration path, there is nothing much to do because then what happens is that the behind the scene, they're providers running, right? And what we support after becoming, the provider is just adding the attributes and, changing a few things here and that we give the upgrade path as well. So that should not be any issue going forward, But yeah, I don't think so, we need to migrate them from CAs process to Kts, right? But behind the scene posts, both uses the Kubernetes, keep CDL. Right? So we can run commands, or we can upgrade the hand charts and do things by that, right? So yeah. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Go ahead. Jigar. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, so some of the functionality will be only Let's say adding a node or doing node, which is not available in predator right now, right? So for that, yes, they need to upgrade in a future, But to continue using the provider as it and current state, they don't need to because we were able to update the library's as long as they are on a helm chart. They were able to do Pretty much upgrading the provided self or restarting, the provider. So those functions will be intact and they will be able to use that into the new process as well. It just something that is Kubernetes related functionality. That will be added later on will not be available to them. + +Tyler Wright: All Thank you very much. Any other questions for jigarette Deval Before we move on. + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Hey guys, hope everybody is feeling. Okay. yeah, I have a question for the page or team cigar and deval + +Robert Del Rey: I'm pretty sure you're aware about where we're doing the Cash City Working Group. We have missions. We motivate people to test out the cash and we reward them. Anyway, in the working group, we were thinking about having a great information. And I wanted to ask you guys Are there any key features you want people to test out? And the reason why I asked that is specifically, it's because we can do a mission about go to Prater and do this and then write your feedback and we can add a form so we could get I guess some comments and some people testing later. So that's why I went to ask which key features, I don't know. They could test out + +Jigar Patel: Hey, thanks Robert. Yeah, absolutely. We are open to that but I wanted to just put it here that let's do testing on the new provider console that what we are working on, right? Because we will be stop working on the older printer provider, So most guys available in beta, I'll reach out to you for silly and I'll join the silly working group as well to discuss more on that. + +Robert Del Rey: Here, that's great. If you don't mind, I can also send you a message and… + +Jigar Patel: Absolutely absolutely. + +Robert Del Rey: we can take the Thank you so much in the next question is. I believe I can keep this question for later since you have plans on migrating to console. But I wanted to ask you if I were to do a video about greater What other things you would like to highlight about it? + +Jigar Patel: Are human like the functionality device. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. I mean, there are videos about how to become a provider using Prater. So I wanted to know if you have other ideas about other type of videos we could do about Prater. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, I think once we go live with the new console provider, I think that would be great because the process and the screens and will be changed. Then what we had in previously, right? So to presentation of the memories and to have a newer, information through videos, That would be great, So, yeah, I think once we have some kind of beta, you and me, what we can like to a meeting and then I'll show you how this works. And then you can make a video on it so the public how this whole process works. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Right, that sounds really cool. Thanks, That's all for me from now. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you Jigarette and Deval for the update, again, we'll look for more updates and Rider Praetor and other channel channels I'm sure as we get to the Beta phase. Cool. His ears must have been ringing because I know that Andrew, who's on the call today has been talking. The providers channel actually made some issues around some things. He talked about in the last six support meeting, but since again, made some issues around some of the behavior that he's seen. And again, I think the members of the core engineering team are going to do some continue testing. And then again, at the next six support meeting, if not prior it will get triage and there'll be some comments made. + +Tyler Wright: Andrew not to put you on the spot, but I know that your tend to be vocal. I just want to see if you want to talk about any stuff that you can talk about in the providers channel. or if there's anything else you want to talk about specifically? Because I think we had come to that part of the agenda for open discussion. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, hi everyone. Can you hear me? Okay, I'm on a different connection today. + +Tyler Wright: Yes. + +Andrew Mello: Okay, great. My first point of order was gonna be the support issue that is remaining open for providers. That basically any node in the cluster, that's tainted. As non-schedule is still bidding on the network. And again, that's still sitting there. I believe a waiting triage since last week, which would be one of my major concerns and then additional to that today. I don't have the ability to share this right now with you guys, but I did kind of want to bring this up on the call with everyone this week. I was able to implement for the first time, ever discounts for users on providers. And this is particular to the crypto and coffee providers. And the ones that I run + +Andrew Mello: Basically the scheme is going to be set up like this that by staking a specific amount of Akt on the crypto and coffee, validator, That is taking those coins. Will automatically receive discounts when deploying against the nine providers that I run. So I was actually looking for to let you guys know that that's coming, but be also a little bit of direction in terms of where we could publish that. I have a full page devoted to this that I just have yet to launch. And when I launched that page the page is basically the instructions. The tiers that, you get your discount for staking x amount of coin. this is a really nice potential. blog piece or for the homepage kind of thing because it really solves discounts. I mean, we've never been able to give away, + +Andrew Mello: Accounts, and things of that nature. So it's unique way to approach the problem. It's live right now and once I would love again, Tyler, just a little bit of guidance of where you think I should bring that to light and bring that out and make people aware because without awareness, it doesn't do much good. So, + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I can get some additional insights. I would say The blog makes the most sense because that'll be the most far-reaching. I think, on the website, there is a way to just make a blog or you can share with me or in a public channel, kind of like a DOC version of the blog and… + +Andrew Mello: Yes, it just Tyler. + +Tyler Wright: then we can work on getting it out to the site. + +Andrew Mello: Just for context. I did share that with you a few days ago, if you look back. So if you could just follow up with me on that, take a deeper look at it know that I am gonna publish that to Github and my website, they're gonna appear on both, but I want to get it into the hands of users, Because it's really pretty cool. Again, steak a few thousand Akt and you can get, double digit percentage discounts on the providers. So pretty, nice incentive for people to keep taking Akt. And also again, some of our larger holders are gonna have some really nice discounts on compute + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: That's Andrew. If you can just read a share that with me, I'm looking through our thread and not finding right now so if you can reshare that with me, I'll make sure that it gets looked at and shared more widely. + +Andrew Mello: I will. Yep. And again, just please don't forget. The providers are bidding when they should not and that is Pretty weird. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Any thoughts or questions about anything that Andrew was just talking about? + +Tyler Wright: All right I wanted to see if there's anything else on the provider side that anybody else wanted to discuss today. Just want to see if there's anything else that anybody wanted to bring up. + +Tyler Wright: If not, I would just remind everybody to always look at the provider announcements. Again, If you're an active provider on the cash marketplace, please look at the providers announcements channel. I think Andy and others share messages. So again, since our last meeting I think there was a message around the Kill zombie parents grip. So again, if you are an active provider again, please look at that channel or if you need access to that channel for whatever reason, please reach out to myself, Tyler Core team or any other members of the court team or cautious insiders to get a roll update. + +Tyler Wright: If there's nothing else, then you all can have some time back again. I'll follow up and look for that Doc from Andrew Mello. I'm sure the Core Engineering team will continue to follow up on some of those issues that are waiting. Triage again, we usually trust issues on a monthly basis but for some of these pressing issues, we can push along a little bit faster. again, please again, if you see anything on the network, continue to testing, bring insiders. And again, if there's an issue, we can escalate it and create an issue inside the support repo. + +Tyler Wright: Much appreciate bigger and deval for all the work that they've been doing in the updates that they provided around the work that they're doing on Console 2.0 Again. There will be some announcements made shortly across a number of different channels. Again, look out for announcements that Andrew has about some of the work that he's been doing and continues to work on. Go ahead, Andrew. + +Andrew Mello: Sorry for the delay here, but I actually did have one other point of order to bring up because it doesn't seem to be getting much movement attraction. Namely the major issue of manually labeling GPUs is something that again is + +Andrew Mello: Creating a demonstratively difficult situation as we continue to evolve here and the real, right way to do things is to use the Nvidia APIs that become available. Once the helm charts are deployed and just read from those API endpoints, the users GPU information and all of the details that already exist on cluster. And I'm just getting concerned that I am not seeing any effort direction motivation, or understanding really that this data that we're asking users to. + +Andrew Mello: manually collect and put together themselves and create the situation where we're basically slowing our expansion, unnecessarily and the real solve for this is to simply have the operator inventory, read the Nvidia, API endpoints that are available on the cluster. Now taking that to the next Level I have working solutions for this. I have working solutions. I have no where to go or implement this or see anyone kind of taking on how we're gonna do GPUs, right at scale. So I just wanted to kind of put that out there for the providers that Again if that there is a better way to add GPUs, the data is all available on cluster and + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: Where would I go to get this going in the right direction because again, the issues with manually adding GPUs are substantial and greatly outweigh the issues of simply reading the GPUs from, the API endpoints and using the existing NVIDIA validation and video validation software to verify that the GPUs is the thing we should be doing. So that is something that again has been a change since this spring that been resolved and not adequately addressed + +Tyler Wright: Thank you for sharing. What I can do is again, I know that there have been updates to the process on the manual process right now. I know that's not what you're looking for. I can share some feedback because again, the core engineering team had already looked into the solution that you're described and decided not to move forward with it. I can provide you in an appropriate providers or providers channel sometimes soon directly from record engineers. So why that is and then maybe you can provide a demo and we can talk async about some of the next steps. But again, there was a clear decision made not to move forward in that direction. I don't want to go into it right now but I'll make sure that you get the adequate information that you're looking for. + +Andrew Mello: Just to have it on the record here. It's very very Difficult now, to scale providers due to the way that GPUs are implemented. And I do not feel that this process is in any way made anything better for the provider or the user, and their ability to validate the GPU, is the GPU particularly because once again a special with new providers, who are inexperienced have Understanding of the complexity of the inventory operator, the inventory operator, that was is Quite simply puts a very disappointing this year of its function. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you Andrew, for that feedback. Again, I had an action item and we'll take some necessary steps between meetings and follow up in Next meeting with some at least updates from the community but much appreciate that. + +Andrew Mello: And just to put a bow on that to make sure everyone's very aware of why my concern is so high for this. scaling scaling Right. 50 providers is a drop in the bucket of kind of early startup days. But when we get to 500 providers, when we when we get to 50,000 providers, we cannot get there. Adding one GPU at a time. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Is there any other discussion topics that anybody wants to bring up here on the stick providers call? + +Tyler Wright: If not. Then, again, there's a number of action items that will handle continue push forward between meetings, much appreciate everybody's participation again. I'll see you all next month. There's a steering committee meeting happening tomorrow, I believe, but I get much appreciated. Everyone's opinions, thoughts, be back hard, work etc. Yeah. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day and we'll continue to work together and talk online. Appreciate you. + +Andrey Arapov: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:24:22 + diff --git a/sig-support/meetings/037-2024-09-18.md b/sig-support/meetings/037-2024-09-18.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c6b4c0b3 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-support/meetings/037-2024-09-18.md @@ -0,0 +1,251 @@ +# Akash Network - Support Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #37 + +## Agenda +- Opening Remarks and Overview +- Triage and Discussion on Akash Network Issues +- Console Issues Update +- Discussion on Bugs and Upcoming Issues +- Community and Discord Behavior Updates + +## Meeting Details +- Date: September 18, 2024 +- Time: 07:00 GMT-7 +- [Recording](https://evdg7ndlhwtfacwpgitrps3uw2lsgh5wz3vj4iiow5d5mewqya3a.arweave.net/JUZvtGs9plAKzzInF8t0tpcjH7bO6p4hDrdH1hLQwDY) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrew Mello +- Damir Simpovic +- Hiroyuki Kumazawa +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Rodri R + +### Opening Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** welcomed attendees to the Support Special Interest Group (SIG) meeting focused on Akash network support issues. +- Mentioned open invitation for any additional agenda items from participants, with a special focus on support and community interactions on Discord and other channels. + +### Triage and Discussion on Akash Network Issues +- **Scott Carruthers** presented a screen share, beginning with triaging current issues in the Akash Network support repository: + - **Internal Tracking Item:** Assigned to **Andy and Devolve** from the core team. Label updated for internal logging investigation; clarified it’s focused on internal workloads and Akash console. + - **Shell Access Issue:** Resolved the shell access issue related to the provider pod restart. Updated labels and clarified it doesn’t resolve the issue of lease events dropping over time, which needs further investigation. + - **UDP Protocol Misconception:** Issue raised by **Zeke** on UDP support availability for Akash deployments. After testing, it was confirmed that UDP is supported alongside TCP. Specific issue found with using the same port for both protocols in game server deployments, which requires further work on Kubernetes to support named field differentiation. + +### Console Issues Update +- **Tyler Wright** inquired if there were any significant console-related issues that needed discussion. + - **Maxime Beauchamp** mentioned minor issues but none urgent for the current meeting. + - **Andrew Mello** raised a discrepancy in the bit engine script’s calculations on Helm charts versus the Akash console, which affects deployment CLI versus console. + +### Discussion on Bugs and Upcoming Issues +- **Andrew Mello** introduced three critical bugs found during testing: + - **Timeout Limit for Large Containers:** Five-minute timeout for deployment completion may not be sufficient for large containers (e.g., AI models), particularly on high-speed connections. Clarified it might not be a network parameter; **Scott** and others to investigate further. + - **Control Plane Bidding Issue:** Control plane nodes are bidding when they shouldn’t, affecting deployment accuracy and network performance. Scott noted mechanisms to address node exclusion in inventory operators, but this needs further investigation. + - **CPU Parameter Rollback:** Observed rollback from **512 CPUs** to **384 CPUs**, possibly unintentional. Andrew plans to create an issue to revert this limit back. + +### Community and Discord Behavior Updates +- **Tyler Wright** opened the floor for community behavior issues, particularly around Discord spam and bot activity: + - **Damir Simpovic** observed spam behavior involving bots posting links after conversational exchanges. + - **Rodri R** reported recurring issues with new users creating spam-like chats, submitting tickets and support requests, and occasionally including screenshots. + - **Tyler Wright** confirmed action items for refining the blacklist of restricted words and addressing spam through moderator tools and the Akash Insiders program. + +**Closing Remarks:** +- **Tyler Wright** encouraged all participants to stay engaged in SIG activities, emphasizing collaboration through GitHub and Discord channels. +- Expressed gratitude for everyone’s contributions, especially in community support and repository management, and wished everyone a productive week. + +## Action Items +- **Andrew Mello**: Create formal issues for the bugs discussed, including timeout limits, CPU parameter rollback, and control plane bidding issues. +- **Scott Carruthers**: Investigate the feasibility of updating the Akash network’s SDL to support simultaneous TCP and UDP on the same port. +- **Tyler Wright**: Review and update Discord’s blacklist and moderation settings, based on the observed issues and participant feedback. +- All participants were encouraged to submit any additional insights or issues in Discord channels and GitHub between meetings. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: Hello, welcome everybody to SIG support. It is September 18th, 2024. The SIG support is a special interest group that focuses on all things on the cost. That's covers everything from Any issues related to the support repo. Some folks can talk about anything related to the console repo. I see there's a couple of representative from the console team here. And then again, we take some time towards the end to talk about support and discord and other channels. So if anybody has anything that they want to add as an agenda item, feel free to drop it in to the chat. We'll make sure we're discuss it at some point today. + +Tyler Wright: Right now, I'm gonna kick it over to Scott, who will get us started with triaching, any issues that are waiting trios and we can talk about anything and support repo. So Scott, I kick it over to you. + +Scott Carruthers: All right, thanks, Ty I will Share out my screen. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, so I think this is actually going to be a pretty quick triage process today. So if we look at the Current issues on the Akash network support repo. We could see during this and I'll open up for discussions as well. If anybody wants to talk about any other issues but we initially just go through and make sure that nothing is in waiting tree action assignment. So I reviewed These prior to our call. And I think this is going to be a pretty quick process. And again, we'll open it up for questions. Afterwards are all open up for questions as we go through each of these as so, Start from the bottom here. this is actually just an internal tracking item. That is already assigned to Andy and Devolve from the core team. So this is just simply a matter of it's not assigned any label so I'm gonna take the + +Scott Carruthers: Awaiting triage off. And I'll put this in the Provider o, label. so again pretty simple one and this was already assigned that this is already active investigation for logging options and some things that are internal team is doing. This isn't necessarily a logging solution for community providers. This is just a logging investigation for some internal workloads like a cash console and things that were investigating better logging options. So again, pretty simple one and basically just need to have the Correct. Label associated. + +Scott Carruthers: So, I'll go back to the List and bring up a waiting triage. This is a I'm gonna go out of order here a little bit because I'll discuss a little bit further. The other one I think is pretty simple. This is one that Max and I discuss weight last week. So recently, we have cells issues of the Shell access to a deployment breaking, if a provider pod is restarted. So that Disruption to Shell Access. It should be resolved and I think there was a belief that I was also going to solve lease events dropping off after time. + +Scott Carruthers: Which I don't think this is a necessarily associated with a provider pod restart, but for some reason, over time, Kubernetes events are no longer available through a class queries. So I thought that was solved again. When we investigated the shell break issues that this is still outstanding. So Max, open an issue. Myself and Archer to this issue. + +Scott Carruthers: And I will also put this one, take it out of a waiting triage and also put this one. And they. Repo Akash label. So I think this is a pretty straightforward issue that we're probably most are Already aware of. + +Scott Carruthers: Just reading this update that Andy put in as well. But anyways, so obviously this needs further investigation to find out why lease events are not available through a cash queries. After a period of time, any questions or does anybody want to discuss this further? + + +### 00:05:00 + +Scott Carruthers: So like I said pretty well known issue and then Lastly, there's a issues that I'm pretty familiar with. So this issue. + +Scott Carruthers: Right now. So Zeke brought this to my attention last week of there was an initial belief when he opened this issue that UDP support was not available for a cost deployments. So I walked through that was Zeke and prove that UDP is definitely available in a cost appointments by changing the defaults TCP protocol in the SDL. and then there was a belief that TCP and UDP were not supported simultaneously and I proved that that wasn't the case either and showed deployments that were using Both TCP and UDP protocols, that we're working perfectly fine. + +Scott Carruthers: So, we went through a little bit of testing for what is issues. He was actually encountering and the issue was that for a video game server. So this is kind of a unusual circumstance. So you have a poor which I believe in this case was a video game server like a Minecraft server or I don't think it's actually minecraft. It was a different video game server. The utilize port 777 both for UDP and TCP. So that's kind of unusual in an application that you would expose. the same port for both TCP and UDP, but for game servers, this somewhat prominent because you want to + +Scott Carruthers: Make the mental load on video game, users a little less. So if they have to put in a custom port, they only want to have to update a single port and that would update both the underlying poor usage of TCP and UDP on the back end. So again not something that we would typically encounter TCP and UDP being used on the same port number. But for video games, that can be someone prominent. So I did some testing of this and this is indeed an issue. If you try to Expose a TCP on UDP port. So again, if we use seven seven as an example on an SDL and try to expose that, be a TCP and UDP the Kubernetes node part will actually be created for TCP. So I did some testing of this And stuff. + +Scott Carruthers: Possible in Kubernetes simultaneously on a deployment, both TCP and UDP using the same port number. But when you do that and starting to get a little bit deep into this. But in case anyone is interested, if you do this via a Straight Kubernetes, deployments. Not a cost appointment, but just a straight Kubernetes deployment. You definitely can use the same port number for TCP and UDP. But to differentiate those for underlying IP tables and other Linux and Kubernetes artifacts is necessary to use a name fields within the service and currently a cost doesn't support that Name field. So Anyways, that's a long-witted explanation of it currently is an issue and it's not possible to expose the same pork via TCP and UDP and the cost deployment. And it looks like we would have to add + +Scott Carruthers: Something into the SDL, it's particularly under the service to allow a name differentiator, that then allows Kubernetes to create the underlying artifacts to support that. So, again, I don't think it's a very prominent issue of and again, went through full validation that it is actually in an issue. So I think a somewhat where use case but something that we certainly need to solve for as there are a number of video game developers that are interested in deploying on a cache. So, with all that being said, I'll take this out of a waiting triage. And this also goes into the provider repo, and I'll, again assign myself and Archer to this. + +Scott Carruthers: Any questions about my explanation of this issue on this matter? + +Scott Carruthers: okay, if not and we go back and look at a waiting triage, we now have engineering assignment for all issues and sound like there was any questions about those specific issues or the latest issues open and they repos in the support repository. So with that I'll open it up. Are there Any desired discussions about other issues that I haven't covered. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, maybe some will come up as we continue the conversation but with that, I think Triaging is complete tower. So I'll hand it back to you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much Scott, Again, if anybody has anything that they wanted to talk about specifically, feel free to drop in and chat. One of the things that we also like to do, I think Max is here as well. I just wanted to see if there's anything console related on the issues front. I don't know if there's any good first issues right now but try to put you on the spot Max. Is there anything that you see on console issues front? That is worth talking about during the six support call. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Maxime Beauchamp: The bunch of issues, but I don't think any issues were talking about here. unless someone else has an issues that they want to talk about, + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any issues that they want to talk about? That's pertains to the cash console. + +Tyler Wright: All I see a hand Go ahead, Andrew. + +Andrew Mello: So I was just looking here, One of my issues does cover the console so figured I'd bring it up now. So I was noticing when doing a cost mining testing at scale that I was digging into some of the numbers a little more specifically. And what I found was a discrepancy between the bit engine script on the helm charts and the Akash console + +Andrew Mello: For the specific value of the total amount of time in a month, when it came to, the calculation of uakt per block. So I didn't file this yet. The three bugs I'm going to talk about today. I haven't filed yet. I wanted to bring them up here a little bit in advance. So what this causes right is kind of a discrepancy between what a user would see when doing a deployment with the CLI versus what they're gonna see on the console. + +Andrew Mello: Since they don't use the same number. So in the bug that I filed Maxime, I'll point you at these two lines of code and basically someone needs to decide which one is going to be the right number. Because right now, console uses a number and the bit engine script uses a number. So one of them has to stay one of the best to go. So I think it's time to square that off because again, it creates a discrepancy from CLI to console. And again, as kind of misunderstood, why we're using different numbers for that. So that was my only little akash console thing that I found in my books for today + +Maxime Beauchamp: Did you create an issue? + +Tyler Wright: + +Andrew Mello: I said that the three bugs I'm going to mention today. I wanted to discuss here first before I made issues about,… + +Tyler Wright: I'm not yet,… + +Andrew Mello: so I was bringing them up. + +Tyler Wright: I think his next step is going to create an issue. Before I move on, because I think the last portion of the six support call on the agenda is we see if any insiders anybody in the community has anything that they've seen in discord elsewhere, Andrew, I know that you mentioned having two other bugs that you want to discuss here before you formally create issues. Do you want to take time now to talk about the other two before we jump into the support stuff? + +Andrew Mello: Sure let's knock it out. that's kind of a high level one here that I want to bring up because I don't know where the best place to address this. I think it's a network parameter but What I've noticed. And I'm sure all of you have probably noticed in the last six months or so since ai workloads have taken off, that these docker containers are really big. We're talking multiple gigabytes. + +Andrew Mello: Sometimes even approaching 10 gigabytes. And what I found on the providers is that our timeout of five minutes, for a deployment to go from pending to deployed before it gets killed by the provider, that is not enough time anymore on a gigabit connection. With one of these large AI images or, model that's baked into an image again, it's just not enough time to download it and have it running and extracted within that time limit. So I don't know if that's a network parameter, that we need to vote on chain about to just change from five minutes to 15 or if it's more fancy. Does anyone know? + + +### 00:15:00 + +Damir Simpovic: I'm pretty sure that some of the providers. That are Overfox managed. Sometimes the Model, download and the Image downloads takes 45 minutes and it doesn't get killed, not sure. + +Andrew Mello: No, we're talking about different issues. I'm talking about the size of containers and extra large containers and now with LMS and all kinds of + +Andrew Mello: Packages inside of these containers. They are growing very large. once they're running and pulling models. I'm talking about the containers themselves with the Nvidia CUDA with, all the other packaging. They're now multiple gigabytes and on providers that have a Gigabit connection, That can quickly surpass the five minutes. So, who should I inquire with about this? Because I feel like This is a network parameter thing, just like the limits on CPUs memory disk that kind of the thing. It's not provider specific I believe. So, again, that's why I'm bringing it up on the call wanted a little more direction before I file a bug about this So, if anybody knows, if not, I'll keep poking around to figure out the answer. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, so I haven't so yeah just go ahead and create the issues so I highly doubtful that this is a network parameter, but I would have to take a quick look. But I actually haven't,… + +Andrew Mello: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: yeah, yeah. Just go ahead and open the issue and we can investigate. I don't think that it's a network parameter. So I actually wasn't aware that there was a Restriction on. and the image download time, I + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, you got flight five minutes for the container to be running, right to go from pending to running before it turns out. it won't just sit on pending on a provider Ever. In the initial,… + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. + +Andrew Mello: look women. + +Scott Carruthers: Just Okay, yeah, I mean the bottom line is, we need to invest here. So the reason I think that's interesting is that and… + +Andrew Mello: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: so, Simply you might have some experience with us. I thought we've had experiences where we've had image downloads that. Take much longer than five minutes without Provoking initia. But + +Damir Simpovic: Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. We do. + +Andrew Mello: It's initial now. + +Scott Carruthers: yeah. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah so I'll document it and that also + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, what we have to get into some of the semantics or the best So that's the reason I want. So Andrew, I'm not at all like downplaying if you're encountering this YouTube. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah. + +Scott Carruthers: We'll definitely look into it. the interesting thing is shampa and others for some of the AI workloads that we've deployed and they've been in the weeds of this a little bit more than I. So, I wanted ship has experience, but I know that I've seen conversation around this where we've had images that take much longer than five minutes to download and it hasn't provoked an issue. So again, I'm not disputing that you've run into this, we just need to take the specifics because Again, we've had experiences where that hasn't provoked an issues. So we'll have to see what they Specific are behind it. + +Andrew Mello: Okay, I bring up the network parameter thing because another one had changed that nobody documented and I don't know why it was actually one of the ones that I had implemented, which was the 512 CPUs. And I'll actually be another bug. I'll add today because there's no reason we should have rolled that back to 384. I don't know why we support less CPUs now than we did before. And also it doesn't make sense because you can have two CPUs in a system, that are up to 512 threads easily. So I'm gonna take a look at both of those. See if it's a network parameter for the timing as well. We'll figure that out and then the final bug I had here was + +Andrew Mello: the one I mentioned to you Scott in private but just wanted to bring it public that the providers control planes are bidding on the network. So you can see this in the event logs, when you deploy to provider, that's full, they're control plane is bidding showing that they have resources available, your deployment gets, deployed on their provider. And then in the event logs, you see immediately that the node that, you're trying to deploy on is tainted and then the deployment fails at five minutes automatically. So, + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: that is a rather concerning one because that one actually has network performance impacts. It also has impacts of the inventory and availability of inventory being incorrect, right? We're showing when a provider is full, they're still bidding and they shouldn't be. So that I would say, out of all of my bugs, is the one with the highest priority. And then, I would say, Definitely I'm out on containers, spawning on gigabit connections. And then the last one there about + +Andrew Mello: the different values on the bit engine and the console and pointing Max to that. And again, I don't know. The reason I brought up the values today really was, because I don't know who makes the decision on that, because Akash has their value and their chart and you guys are gonna have yours. So you guys gotta decide which one to use their I would imagine it will be the bid engine one because then all the providers don't have to update. So that is my bug find for the last few weeks. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, and the control plane. So obviously we're talking about control planes that are Dedicated control plane nodes that aren't worker. Nodes are if they work. + +Andrew Mello: So if they followed the setup of Akash, right? you're setting control planes as tainted, As not supposed to be bidding and all of that but the provider is still seeing those as available. + +Scott Carruthers: So what I was going to say, so obviously this is a matter when the control point is not also serving as a worker node and they're at our mechanisms within the inventory operator to + +Scott Carruthers: The term is escaping out so I'll just say So I don't think that's actually what it is and they inventory, operator mechanics. But anyways, let's just say There's a mechanism with an operator to exclude nodes from inventory for this exact purpose. So if you have control plane only nodes, we should be able to when the in Operator, is deployed data specify nodes that we want to exclude from inventory. And when the inventory operator with Feature Discovery was first released, it was noticed that mechanism for exclusion was not working. So it's definitely a known issue. I don't believe that. There's actually an issue and the support repo. So for some new attention, Andrew, if you could open an issue so we can look at this on the latest version. So I think you're already intending to do that. But again, it's kind of a known issue but it hasn't got any attention recently. So, + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, and it's the kind of issue that would slip through the cracks until a provider is full. It's not something you notice until you're at edge cases, right? Because everything looks great until you're at, out of 90 CPUs available, and it's still bidding, but then you're deployments aren't working, right. The problem is it creates a full failure for the deployment. So, that's why it's kind of definitely one. We want to get some eyes on. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, okay, yeah, understood. So yeah, yeah, if you can open an issue for that. Then, yeah, that like I said, I don't believe this received any attention recently even though it's kind of a known issue. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, but besides that I mean those are the majors that I found after doing some pretty extensive heavy hitting testing with a cosh mining, filling up providers and again that that's stuck out like a sore thumb. So we'll get it going. Thank you again for the attention on it. + +Tyler Wright: Just again, as an action item, the issues that Andrew's brought up today, we kind of talked about over our last few minutes, Andrew will create formal issues. So that we continue to track those beyond this meeting. We can make comments in between six support meetings and kind of look to get these results to figure out what next steps are. But Andrew, thanks for bringing those up again, here on the call and looking forward to creating those issues and following up. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, we'll do. And glad you guys have some context now for them. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, much appreciated. All right. We've gone through the support repo we've gone through, talk about giving people opportunity to talk about anything at Cross Console related. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: Andrew brought up some issues or bugs rather than he's found that he's going to turn into issues. I'm following call. The only thing I wanted to talk about again, if anybody has anything else, they want to talk about, feel free to drop it in the chats. But usually, during these six support calls, I reach out to rodri or other members of the Akash insiders slash vanguards to see if there's anything in the community in discord and telegram and other channels that might be worth discussing, that might be worth talking about with again this group. So, anything related to user experience activity in discord, etc. Feel free to talk about this now, to me, I see your hand Feel free to go ahead. + +Damir Simpovic: I noticed that the ticket guys are back, so they might have figured out. A way to go around the filter. So yeah. That's something that we need to. that's all I have. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I've seen some people drop some suggestions and insiders and we continue to implement them. But go ahead. Roger + +Rodri R: The same. I was just gonna add that just this morning, there was this couple of new users, that started creating a chat between them. we all with the usually do and the mirror said, they dropped in several tickets and different support things, even one of them even created a screenshot and uploaded it. I banned the users, I thought that we wouldn't get that support ticket was already in the Blacklisted. Words, Word List. I'm not sure why they're going to. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I'll check on that and get back to you but thank you for bringing that up. + +Damir Simpovic: the results also a notice that somebody's using books, like, Two or three bots talking to each other on this course. kind of like a normal conversation. + +Damir Simpovic: Yeah. I timed one of them out. Then the other one continues talking. As if. The other one was still there. Was pretty funny, but why I'm bringing it up is because they + +Damir Simpovic: they occasionally drop links. they're relatively harmless to watch just the conversation but after 10, or 15 messages, they drop a link where they, I don't know, found a how to get 8,000 for free, just by clicking on it, stuff like that, people scans. So Yeah. Need to be aware of those. + +Tyler Wright: All If you all can continue to drop messages in the insiders channel again, because Insiders program is an application and acceptance program that is like a caution ambassadors. There's a sign up forum on the website but again I know Roger and Jamaica both insiders. If you can continue to share some of these messages in the chat Adam I and others can continue to look and refine the modification to a mod tools. Go ahead. Roger + +Tyler Wright: You might be unmuted if you're talking. + +Rodri R: I was just saying that there were also some airdrop messages last week and I believe yesterday too. I don't know if that word has also been that listed apparently not because they typed it. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, again I'll Look at the settings. I'm not really sure what changed because many of these words were blacklisted for a long time. So, let me see if something happened with discord or saw or elsewhere and we'll make sure that some of those basic words I've support ticket, airdrop etc, are blacklist. And then, feel free to drop in the other messages or tendencies that you see. And the cost insiders discord channel, we'll continue to refine the modules. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Rodri R: For sure and it was working because I once got banned from the server for Typing Support Ticket just when you all created the blacklist. So yeah, it used to work. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, that's what I figured and they were gone for a long time but we'll make sure I follow up. Is there anything else tendency wise or behavior wise, and discord or elsewhere? There might be worth noting here with a folks that get people support in various chats, as well as just members of the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: Is there anything else support related to anybody wants to talk about before I let y'all go. + +Tyler Wright: All right, we got a number of action items that will look out for some new issues. That'll be created again. I know the console team is going to continue to create some issues for folks in the community to contribute to. Again, there's a number of opportunities to get involved. Please look at the various repos, ask questions and individual issues, leave comments etc. Much appreciate everyone's time and energy much, appreciate Andrew for bringing these bugs to attention today. Again, we look for those issues coming real shortly. And again hope everyone has a great rest of your day Thanks as always for leading us through on the treehouse process. Hope everyone has a great day, feel free to drop any comments in various channels and discord. Six support. If you don't know where to drop, it related to any of these issues. And again, we'll continue working in between meetings and discord and github, etc. But thanks again for All your hard work, hope everyone has a great rest of the day and prayers for the week. + +Scott Carruthers: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:32:15 👋 diff --git a/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md b/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c5e82061 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ +# Akash Network - Support Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #38 + +## Agenda +- Welcome and Opening Remarks +- Triage of Support Repo Issues +- Community Discussion on Discord and Telegram Behaviors +- Open Floor for Additional Issues + +## Meeting Details + +- Date: Ocober 16, 2024 +- Time: 07:00 GMT-7 +- [Recording](https://y6maa325rxgqsjjluoracvtjrcxiq2bhxlyftdloyiiafyhatydq.arweave.net/x5gAb12NzQklK6OiAVZpiK6IaCe68FmNbsIQAuDgngc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrey Arapov +- Benjamin B +- B S +- Deathless +- M R + +## Meeting Notes + +### Welcome and Opening Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** welcomed everyone to the SIG Support monthly meeting, emphasizing the importance of triaging issues in the support repository and addressing Akash Network issues on GitHub. +- Outlined the meeting’s flow: triage support issues, address community concerns in Discord and Telegram, and conclude with open discussion. + +### Triage of Support Repo Issues +- **Scott Carruthers** reviewed issues awaiting triage in the support repo, detailing each one: + - **Pod Stability Issues**: Investigation ongoing to reduce out-of-memory (OOM) issues, particularly affecting GPU AI workloads. Core team is exploring the use of Kubernetes host swap files to alleviate these issues. Issue assigned a high priority (P1) and added to the engineering roadmap. + - **Coinbase Transaction Error**: User mistakenly sent AKT to a Coinbase source address. Tyler is investigating ways to return the small amount of AKT involved and will handle the follow-up. + - **Wallet Operation Error in Praetor App**: Jigar initially responded to clarify this user-reported error, which may stem from configuration issues. The team is awaiting further user input and feedback to investigate fully. + - **Authorized Spend Without Expiration**: An edge case where deploying a spend without an expiration date produces erroneous date outputs. Issue noted as potentially display-only, needing further testing to confirm. Assigned for additional testing by Scott. + - **Inconsistent Block Time Calculation**: Discrepancy found in average block time values between the Akash console and bid engine script, affecting deployment price estimates. Suggestion raised to use a shared value repository to avoid future inconsistencies. Scott will take this issue offline for further evaluation. + +### Community Discussion on Discord and Telegram Behaviors +- **Tyler Wright** invited feedback on observed behaviors or themes in support-related channels: +- **Community Spam and Bot Activity**: No specific issues were raised during this meeting, though Tyler emphasized using the SIG Support channel to report any suspicious activity. + +### Open Floor for Additional Issues +- Tyler opened the floor for further discussion on any issues, behaviors, or topics not covered in the formal agenda. +- No additional issues or behaviors were raised at this time. + +### Closing Remarks +- Tyler thanked all participants, especially Scott, for leading the triage session, and expressed appreciation for community contributions in support channels. +- Encouraged attendees to stay engaged in Discord and GitHub to help monitor and report issues between meetings. + +## Action Items +- **Scott Carruthers**: Investigate pod stability improvements using Kubernetes host swap files and continue testing the Authorized Spend Without Expiration edge case. +- **Tyler Wright**: Follow up on the Coinbase transaction error to return the small amount of AKT mistakenly sent by the user. +- **Scott Carruthers**: Resolve the block time calculation discrepancy by exploring a shared value repository for consistent pricing estimates across the console and bid engine script. +- **Core Team**: Coordinate testing for the Cosmos SDK v0.47 upgrade and reach out to community members experienced with validator setup for involvement in this testing group. +- **All Participants**: Use the SIG Support channel to report any spam, bot activity, or behavior issues observed in community channels (Discord, Telegram). + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, everybody. Welcome to the SIG Support monthly meeting during the Special Interest group. + +Tyler Wright: Support this group meets on a monthly basis. Led by members of the core engineering team to go over any issues that are awaiting triage in the support repo and the Akash Network Organization and GitHub is where all issues related to the Blockchain and just again, the Akash network as a whole live. There's another repo that sometimes we discuss more issues related to console live again. If anybody has any issues related, consolders a discord channel called Ecosystem Console. And again, there's also the console repo inside the car's network organization, where folks can create issues again. What we usually do is I hand it over to remember the core team to go for any issues that are waiting triage inside the support repo. + +Tyler Wright: Anybody can discuss any of those issues or bring anything up and folks aren't here live for the meeting. You have a question about a specific issue more than welcome to drop a comment inside that respected issue and the support repo from there after we triage any issues and we discuss any issues and support repo. I'll see if anybody in the community that wants to talk about any support as having a discord or any other behaviors or themes that need to be discussed. Anybody has anything that they want to talk about specifically related to support whether it be again, the support repo or just general support inside discord and other channels. Again, feel free to drop a message inside the chat. But without further ado, I'm going to hand it over to Scott and we'll see if there's any issues that are waiting triage and discuss them. + +Scott Carruthers: All Sounds good. Thanks proactively I got into the support repo and the issues that are awaiting triage and we have a few more that way. Did prior and in previous weeks but I think they're actually should be able to go through pretty quickly. So as you can see, we have five that are awaiting tree. I shall just go through these one at a time. So Tyler, this looks like you already have assigned. So this is an issue for + +Scott Carruthers: Pot, stability issues. So this is an investigation that we're doing internally to See how we can eliminate now that we can eliminate but try to reduce the occurrences out of memory issues as much as possible. So we've Been doing some internal investigation about using recently introduced Kubernetes. Host swap files and things of that nature to try to. Alleviate as much as possible, some of the GPU AI workloads that are encountering out of memory issues. So this is still under investigation and yesterday, Tyler created an issue for us. So again tower it looks like you've already done. Assignment. So I'll just take this out of a waiting triage and put it into the label with the provider label. And let's say it as a P1 as well. So that also good. + +Tyler Wright: And then I've also added this to the product and engineering roadmap because I know this is something that's a higher priority for the core engineering team, so I didn't want to triage it all the way and prioritize it. But I knew who was going to be working on it. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, that sounds Not true. Prior gives the ability to go through it during the section. So, yeah, that's probably a good call. Okay, so first one down. So we'll go back and go back to other. Issues that are awaiting triage. the first one so I did again, I went through some of these pretty quickly before. This session tower. I'm not sure if this is something that you want to handle. So if you read through this quickly, somebody opened a issues because they were going through a, quote, a Coinbase mission. And if you read through this, it sounds like during a portion of it, they accidentally sent akt to instead of their own address after, I think this is when the mission is completed, they send funds used during the mission to their + +Scott Carruthers: Back to their account and they sent it to I think a corn base source address instead of a destination address of their own wallet. So, If you look through this, we're only talking about three Akt. I believe this is all this user is concerned about. So I would think if it's truly only three Akt that we could probably facilitate given that three Akt back. I'm just talking it up as a Simple mistake. But anyways, this is something that you want me to take out a way in triage and I can assign it to yourself, Tyler. And you can Follow up, or + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. Yeah, That works. I saw this issues yesterday and I've already taken some steps behind the scenes to try to figure out how to address this. I don't know if the support repo was a proper place for this, but we'll just keep it here for the time being until it gets resolved. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. Yeah. I don't think probably was the proper place but at this point it's probably just easier to deal with it here and close it. And Try to do anything else. So yeah, that sounds good. I'm not sure. I guess I'll just do it as a P2. It's not really something that we would just sign that to otherwise for a label, but I'll set it as a little priority. P2 and assign it to you, Tyler. So, I think that's all this necessary for that. Go back and so that should bring us down to three items awaiting triage. So I saw this Issues of the Prater app, not working. + +Scott Carruthers: When a fresh wallet, operation is conducted in a couple. I didn't really go into the details of this. So it looks like there's a lot of information. So again, I don't looks like actually Jigars already responded and looked like he was confused about the issues. is not Prater but anyways, it looks like Jagar has already engaged on this, so I'll go up and take this out of The waiting triage, and I'll do it as a. P2 again and also the repos and Issues related to Prater or possibly not. But it only said, was they the thought? And if Garza day on this, I'll assign it to himself. + +Scott Carruthers: this again, isn't really an issue. I'm kind of just scrolling through this in real time. And the most consequential update here is from Jakar. And again, it looks like he believes that this is a couple or issue prater, any questions or any further discussion necessary on this. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, that's interesting. That's three weeks old and we should have encounter that during the last triage, possibly Got taken out of a waiting triage for a period time and then put back in it. But anyways, it's a sign now and it looks like currently we're just a waiting for they user to respond. To jakarta's update. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, so if we go back in and take a look at the remaining items and awaiting triage, that brings us down to two, So, these are again issues that I'm just really reviewing in real time. I remember especially the one from Ada Plug I remember coming up during The last session that we had couple ago, this support session from a couple weeks ago. And I'm not familiar with this. So I'm just gonna take a quick look, so I'll see for deployment deposit without expiration outputs, erroneous date. + +Scott Carruthers: That's interesting. I'm not sure that I have ever created Aussie or an authorized spend without a expiration. So possibly this is just a edge case that hasn't been tested or looked at prior so I will. + +Scott Carruthers: Sign our term myself to this. + +Scott Carruthers: And so this is Aussie issues. So I'll set this as a P2 and I will put it as + +Scott Carruthers: This is put it in the notary bow. So, I Get identical waiting triage. So again, this isn't something that I've looked at on. I can definitely do some testing of this myself. If anyone on the call is encountered this or anyone has any thoughts on this? I'll take a pause here. Please let us know otherwise. I'll try to reproduce it and again it probably is an edge case where rare to create an authorized spend without a expiration date. So it looks like when Max was testing this, he kind of found a edge case and I'm actually not even sure that this is a functionality issue or if it's just a display issue, I spend is created without an exploration date. If you were to query that, Authorized spend on chain. It might have the correct. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Scott Carruthers: Authorization date. But it's just, the CLI is output in incorrect date. Obviously that would have to be tested but any other Thoughts or questions or concerns on this? + +Scott Carruthers: And with that, that should bring us down to Single item awaiting triage. So I remember this being brought up and they support call last week or a couple weeks ago. So I'm just gonna refresh my memory. So inconsistent average block time values between the cost console and the bit scripts. There's an existent inconsistency and average time, use her caching block. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: so impact, while this discrepancy between those block times may appear minor signify affects pricing consistency, so I think the + +Scott Carruthers: I guess and so this is something that obviously I could take offline and think about Further. So I understand the ramification of the block size time when the pricing script is using it and calcula Average block time. For pricing consideration as a pricing calculations. not exactly sure what they ramification or the consequence of Different block time, being displayed within console would be sorry for that. And raise some, I'm gonna go back to go ahead. Andy. + +Andrey Arapov: Yeah, just like the big engine script, it uses this pricing equation. For making sure the amount of blocks it will give for the deployment. the smaller blocks, you getting a block. and if you are setting the bit pricing script to something that you expect to give one price and then on the console, you would see Okay, you're deployment Will Expire would say slightly northern slightly later if there is a scrupon sim between the pricing conversation so that's what he probably meant. And yeah,… + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: I think we should really use the same value there and there and probably The best case is probably to update our net repo the single source of truth + +Andrey Arapov: we have not repos mainnet and sandbox and maybe create a little file with block size. Maybe I'll put it there so that, the script and decide will just probably the same Just an idea. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, as you were beginning to speak. So I was trying to correlate. So what is the ramification of the console? Using a different block. So obviously, they + +Scott Carruthers: Main concern would be they block time and the price script calculation. So I was just trying. Why are we concerned about the? Block size calculation within Console. But as you say that, I think this is just a matter of when console plays estimated time, Of lifetime. Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: Yeah. Yeah that's the point. so there is a discrepancy then the provider would be reason. Let's say higher or lower. What is to digital element and on the console we would see It took quite slightly different. I mean if you are actually locating it manually, it's one thing. And the second thing is that some might be calculating something like an Excel sheet and using the Smarties for, we're kind of determining for how long they are deployment will run. but, + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: But yeah, it's + +Scott Carruthers: I definitely get at that, If no other consequence, it's lean into erroneous estimations within console of how long the deployment lifetime would be based on average block time and the amount of funds in escrow so yeah, yeah, I get it. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Scott Carruthers: So I have assigned that again to myself and our tour and put it as a P2 and they know repito Any other? Thoughts are discussion points on that issue. + +Scott Carruthers: With that usually at this point. So I'm just going to go back and send a check but that should complete our tree housing activities for this session. Usually, at this point, I also Just open the floor to anyone in the audience. Is there either an items that we just covered that? We now want to revisit? Or are there any issues that we didn't cover that were not a waving triage but just some other issues that there's interest in discussing this morning. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, if there's nothing else, I think we're done with treating Tower and I'll hand it back to you. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect, thank you very much. + +Tyler Wright: At this point, we usually see a perfect timing because we just added another insider vanguard during this part. after we + +Tyler Wright: Triage any issues, awaiting triage. Usually, we try to see if there's anything in discord telegram, or any other support related channels that should be discussed with this group or anybody listening later. I just want to see if there was anything in discord or telegram, that anybody has seen from new and existing users. That might be worth calling out here today. I know that, members of the core team as well, the community have seen some issues related to AI deployments and so, again some investigation is Scott mentioned is being done on Scott's stability related to those AI deployments. So that's something that we've seen from potential customers, especially in the AI space potential partners, rather. And so that's something that the core team is looking to, with high priority. I want to see if there's anything else anybody + +Tyler Wright: Seeing from a behavioral standpoint or just an in general going on and discord or other channels that might be worth calling out. + +Tyler Wright: If not, again, please feel like you can use a six support channel to talk about anything that you see in discord or other channels. That might be worth calling out talking in more detail, etc. + +Tyler Wright: I know there'll just had a couple of folks, just much appreciate you for joining. We have already gone through issues that are awaiting triage inside the support repo. We've talked about various issues in detail. We're now at the portion of the agenda where we're trying to see if there's anything themes or otherwise. And anybody is seen in discord telegram or other channels from a support standpoint, it should be called out. I know there's a number of folks here that are very active in discord and other channels. So again, I don't want to call anybody because I know the folks might be doing other things, but I just want to see if there's any Being behaviors. + +Tyler Wright: Kind of concepts that folks have seen regularly and discord or other channels that might be worth updating documentation or calling out or questions based upon again, things that anybody's seen from the community or potential partners. + +Tyler Wright: It's not then again I do want to call out the insiders vanguards and other members of the community that do it just a great job of just answering questions and providing support and telegram again Discord is where ers when many of the folks that are providing deploying on a class network, kind of ask specific questions, Get feedback. I do want to shout out the insiders again the vanguards and for all that they do providing almost 24 seven support again. There's some other folks that are on this call that I've just been a + +Tyler Wright: An extreme value add and just when somebody has provider specific questions or deployment specific questions, being able to answer them, Give guidance on providers setups, all that kind of stuff. So again those community efforts go a long way in keeping new people engaged and existing people engaged. So I know that the community as a whole appreciates those efforts But I just want to see if there's anything that anybody wants to discuss in more detail. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: If not then again, we've moved the SIG, clients meeting to next month, where I'm sure there'll be a number of updates related to cost console and some other items again. If anybody has any specific issues related to the console, there's an ecosystem console panel and discord as well as the console repo where you can create an issue that, the product team will continue to look at monitor. + +Tyler Wright: One other thing of note is again, as we prepare ourselves for the Cosmos SDK, 47 upgrade there is going to be some testing. We talked about this at the beginning of the month in SIG chain. But we're at the point where we're going to be calling upon some folks, from the community that have shown interest in helping to test out functionality related to Cosmos Institute K47 upgrade. So, please look out for announcements in discord and other channels again, if you want to get involved, feel free to reach out to me. But we're gonna put together a small contingent to folks that, are technical enough to understand the CLI set up a validator can do a number of tasks and again, we're gonna + +Tyler Wright: Create a place where folks can start to test out items related to Cosmos. Sdk47. So I'm just a couple of announcements related to again console and some other efforts, being done by the core team. Is there anything else that anybody wants to discuss right to support? + +Tyler Wright: At this time, any other outstanding issues and maybe have already been triage, anybody wants to discuss. + +Tyler Wright: If not, then I'll certainly let you all go a little bit early. If anybody has anything that they see in discord or any support related issues, again, feel free to reach out to an inside. Our vanguard that can help you with the potential solution is escalation path from there to get members of the core team involved. And again, we can feel free to create an issue that will be triage and can be commented on. If you already create an issue, please feel free to look back at that issue and see if there's comments that have been added, that might need again attention. But as I've said earlier, much appreciated, everybody's time today. Thank you, Scott for leading us through issues, awaiting triage, and support repo. And again, Thank you to all that, provide feedback, provide guidance inside of discord. It goes such a long way and I get messages all the time from people privately about, Hey I had no idea what I was doing. This person helped me really appreciate + +Tyler Wright: It goes a long way and a much, appreciate all those that are participating. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day again. feel free to let me know if you need anything but we'll continue to talk on discord and elsewhere. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, have a good day. + +Scott Carruthers: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Have a good week, everyone. + +Andrey Arapov: Say goodbye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:38 👋 diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ffd32ac7 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md @@ -0,0 +1,256 @@ + +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #6 + +## Agenda +- Progress updates from the last meeting. +- Uploading steering committee calls to YouTube. +- Graphic assets for thumbnails, intros, and closing cards. +- Automating video editing tasks. +- Creating a backlog for managing tasks. +- Omniflix TV updates. +- Handling YouTube comments and community engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://57ao2jjfdga5witta4xaimiflj3cnwrmdmvrtxwhsdckbzyxy2kq.arweave.net/78DtJSUZgdsicwcuBDEFWnYm2iwbKxnex5DEoOcXxpU) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Joann Woods +- oo o + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Steering Committee Call Uploads**: + - Robert confirmed that he now has access to download the steering committee calls. These videos will be uploaded to YouTube soon, after adding the necessary graphic assets. + - There are ongoing efforts to create the required thumbnails, intro cards, and closing cards, which will be used for all the videos. A community member is working on this, and Robert is waiting for their submission. + +- **Automating Video Edits**: + - A question was raised by oo o about automating the addition of intro and outro cards across multiple videos. Robert explained that currently, this needs to be done manually, as YouTube doesn’t allow post-upload edits of this nature. + - He encouraged the group to share any tools that might facilitate bulk editing but will proceed manually for now. + +- **Task Management and Backlog**: + - Robert proposed creating a backlog document to track future projects and ideas, ensuring that important tasks are not forgotten. + - He mentioned the possibility of using project management tools such as Asana or GitHub Projects. oo o suggested that GitHub Projects could be a suitable option, especially since Akash already uses GitHub for other purposes. + - The backlog will include tasks like YouTube collaborations and new video ideas, allowing the team to prioritize and execute them in the future. + +- **Omniflix TV Update**: + - Robert shared the good news that Akash Network now has an official channel on Omniflix TV, a streaming platform in the Cosmos ecosystem. + - All Akash videos uploaded to YouTube will also be posted on Omniflix TV, potentially increasing the channel's reach within the Cosmos community. + - This effort supports Omniflix, an old partner of Akash. + +- **YouTube Comments**: + - Robert addressed recent YouTube comments, including a frequently asked question about whether someone can use a regular computer with a 360 graphic card on the Akash network. + - A generic response was developed, encouraging everyone to provide what resources they have but also explaining that higher-capacity equipment offers better chances of earning AKT. + - Each response includes links to Akash documentation and an invitation to join the Akash Discord for further technical assistance. + +- **Call Frequency Update**: + - The group discussed the recent change in meeting frequency from weekly to biweekly. Robert confirmed that this change will be reflected on the Akash Discord to avoid confusion. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Continue working on uploading the steering committee call videos after receiving the required graphic assets. + - Update the Akash Discord to reflect the biweekly meeting schedule. + - Finalize a backlog document using GitHub Projects to organize future tasks for the Akash YouTube channel. + - Continue addressing YouTube comments and directing viewers to the Akash Discord for further engagement. + +- **oo o**: + - Share any available tools that may help automate the video editing process. + - Continue offering feedback on YouTube content and process improvements. + +- **General**: + - Monitor and engage with the Akash Omniflix TV channel as it develops. + - Prepare for additional video content and collaborations based on the backlog. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: It's been recorded and transcribed. Hello, everybody. And welcome to Hatch by weekly YouTube in this call, we discuss all things related to a cash due to We are on a mission on revamping the YouTube channel. We're focusing on improving the content quality, we want to increase the engagement and align the channel with a cash network score. Make it easier for people to find this channel and get educated about a cash. So yeah, today's agenda, it's a big short. I'm just gonna follow up on some islands from last week and some things that hopefully we will. In the following two weeks. Thank you everybody for joining. + +Robert Del Rey: This call right now, live. On September 3rd. And also thank you for those listening to the recording later. We appreciate you a lot in the cash community. So, at the moment, what we're doing, We want to upload the steering commit Working group calls, that's monthly call, that happens and most of the community gets involved. Most of the core team gets involved. Most of the occasion, cider skip involved. so, To start overloading new content to the Cash YouTube channel. We want to upload the city This theory community call. so, I haven't uploaded then yet so my bad, please forgive me. + +Robert Del Rey: But good news. I have access now to download those calls, I didn't have access, but now I have the access to download the files and we will Update them, in the coming days. another thing that is spending for me to get If the graphic assets at the moment, there are two people working in the graphic assets. Those are thumbnails. + +Robert Del Rey: Thumbnails and intro and closing cards for the videos. So, the thumbnail is the image you see before clicking on a video. Somebody from the community is working on that. And they will send that to me. + +Robert Del Rey: The intro and closing cards, It's like I don't know, Maybe you have seen a YouTube video before the person in the video, those a quick overview and then you get an in a TV channel, I don't know, an intro, right? So these persons working on an interview about a cash, so we can add that to all the videos. It's something simple. It's like a logo animation. That is going to be in all the videos. So yeah, I'm going in on those two graphic assets so that we can start uploading those Syrian community videos into their cash YouTube channel. That's the main stuff at the moment. Then we will move on to other videos, so I stay tuned for that. I will discover quickly in case. Somebody here has any question. + +Robert Del Rey: I see a hand. go ahead. + +oo o: So the intro and exit cards, When you're adding them, is it going to be automated? + +Robert Del Rey: What you mean automated? + +oo o: instead of having to do in manual one after the other is their way to do it in bulk you just select all the files and then from song so you add it to the beginning and then to the end of everything. + +Robert Del Rey: let me tell you, that'd be great And if you have a tool that can live, that can help me doing something like that, please share it. But at the moment I will need to do it one by one. I will need to download the video and manually, add the intro and outer part to all the ways. Then I need to export and then I need to upload to you. In there. Yeah. + +oo o: That's like a. + +Robert Del Rey: it's gonna be some work. Yeah. But we can do it. And, the only reason why we're doing it that way. It's because once you upload a video to YouTube, There is no way to edit the video, doing some heavy editing. There is no way you can do that. You can add subtitles, you can add Some other stuff, some atoms, right? But you cannot do like that kind of editing once you upload a video interview. So Looking forward to get those assets this weekend and start uploading those to the channel. one thing I wanted to ask Tyler suddenly he's not here, he's on vacation. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: But I would drop it here so we can be in the recording is that I believe it's necessary that we have a backlog document. because, at the moment right now, we're just Sharing ideas and brainstorming ideas. But nothing is on any document or future reference. So, just to avoid that, we forget about any important stuff that we want to do. I believe it's important to have a back in The backlog is a document. That you add all the things that you want to do. But you cannot do right? Because An example is that right now we are working in the city community called Videos, Right? But let's say we also want to do YouTube shortly. + +Robert Del Rey: And we also want to do collaboration with other YouTube. At the moment. We are not focusing on that but we understand that it's important for the channel. So, we're gonna add those items. so, once we're done with what we're doing right now, We can just go to the backlog and see what is the next thing that we should do to keep the channel? hopefully done next but yeah, I really having a vacuum of it. Yeah, you want to just turn it? + +oo o: so some of these are Just this project management software. + +Robert Del Rey: Come again. + +oo o: What do you call it? with cards for those, you have need to do + +Robert Del Rey: forget about your stuff or you're talking about asana, for example, + +oo o: Yeah, something like I think asana and get similar software like that should do with that. Or I don't know if Github has something similar But asana and… + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. + +oo o: if that sounds like something that you will be, the thing is. if they offer free option large enough use for a lot of people to Have access to. + +oo o: . + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. And I get it and Astana has a free option but it's only 30 days that you can use it. You have all the features… + +oo o: Yeah. Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: but it's only days after the 30 days you have to pay. But on github I send you to The projects used. + +oo o: Okay, that + +oo o: Okay okay. Yeah. Yeah. Data projects or something similar? Okay. Yes yes. + +Robert Del Rey: I believe we could use the Github projects. I mean, we're using it right now but maybe you could use it a little bit more and… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: get more advantage, a son because Applesana in the past and… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: it's really cool to stay updated and current with the past. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for the suggestion. So yeah, you can see in the Github board. You have items up next in progress and completed. For example, one thing I do after I'm done with the YouTube call, and the ceiling call is that I come here to this dashboard. I look for the YouTube card and I add the comments for example. Today, we have this call After this call is done, I would go to there and write something like, Hey, they had a call and we spoke about this and these and that. Yeah, and when I have a big update, I added their. So again, I believe we could use more peace or only to manage the products what you say. + +oo o: Yeah, that makes sense. And actually totally forgot about guitar projects. obviously is what I've not used that much up so it a cash. + +Robert Del Rey: In about Tyler. No wait. Wait. + +Robert Del Rey: You are Nate, right? but, Who's Oakley? Are you okay? Also or cleanse it someone else. I believe it's someone else. Right? + + +### 00:10:00 + +oo o: I play this meeting. Sorry, I did not know some mute likely this me rightly,… + +Robert Del Rey: Okay,… + +oo o: this, my handle + +Robert Del Rey: thank you for confirming men. So yeah, about Tyler, yeah, he's been on vacation… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: since last week. He's not fully away. I mean, he might respond to your messages but he should be back by the end of the week. + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: 100% by idea that week. you can send him a message and… + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: he might respond. + +oo o: All right. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, maybe we could talk to him about this project Is a project manager for clock. So yeah, He can definitely share some feedbacks with us. + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: All right. So yeah. Moving on. Let me share some brief updates that we Remember this call has been changed. In the past, we had it every week, it was up weekly calls but we decided to change that to my weekly said. So we are having this call. Every other week. guess one week. So yeah, that's the cost frequency for this community efforts just so I have any news. I already told you that I'm able to download them working group videos, that's progressed. but the other good news that I have, is that Cash network. Has an official channel in omniflex TV. + +Robert Del Rey: For those of you that don't know, only flix TB, it's like a streaming platform done by the people from the Omnitrix team. They are. A very old partner of a cash and We open up a channel in their platform. The mission. + +oo o: Mmm. + +Robert Del Rey: I mean the objective of that is basically uploading all the videos we have on YouTube. We want to upload them in public city hopefully that can get off some extra rich in the cosmos ecosystem. and yeah, we would support our omniflix partner So yeah, that's a good news there. And the reason why I say this is good news, It's because someone tried to do this in the past. + +Robert Del Rey: And they open an account and everything and they took the cash username. And I couldn't get it. So last week, I just spoke with a team. They did some things in the back end and we were able to get the cash official channel. So yeah, yeah. Something to celebrate. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. Yeah, pretty good. So those are the things that I have at the moment. Like I said,… + +oo o: That's great. + +Robert Del Rey: only flicks is gonna go single honestly, what has YouTube? We're going to upload all that we upload in YouTube. We are going to upload it only fixed. Hopefully we can get some support on the Twitter side of things, hopefully sack and help us sharing some things in Twitter. To get some extra rich. Hopefully, we can get the graphic assets so we can continue working in this channel. And yeah, I'm very excited. Neighborhood, you have your hand. What's up? + +oo o: Okay. yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Attached in the you is still there. + +oo o: What happened to the Omniplex the cash educational channel on only fix. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, you're gonna continue those efforts once. Adam is fully back on action,… + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: we're gonna resume the cash ad. there is something that we are planning to do supposedly. You can transfer information between Akash EDU and the cash only fixed channel. So the first It is very possible that the first videos of a cash channel in Omniflicts. Are about the cash give you videos, so it's very possible that we experiment with those first. But yeah, I actually view is still there as far as I remember And yeah, I remember Adam said before he left for parental leave. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: He said that he wanted to work on this when he gets back. So, let's see how that goes. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I saw that message, too. I was happy to see that. I haven't talked to him yet… + +oo o: All right, somebody said you notice them yesterday and… + +Robert Del Rey: but I'm waiting,… + +oo o: And discord. + +Robert Del Rey: I'm waiting for my moment. Maybe he's catching up with all of the messages and imagine you like having three months without responding to people. + +oo o: Yeah. Yeah. + +oo o: Yeah, that's gonna be like, Yeah, then I don't know who's in charge of events on discord. They need to edit the days for the YouTube working session meeting… + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for letting me know, okay? + +oo o: because it's still showing its weekly instead of weekly Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: I'll make sure that something thank Nice cash. + +Robert Del Rey: That happens, sometimes these core also acts up. yeah. Let me make sure it's reflecting by weekly calls instead of weekly. + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: One more thing I wanted to say before we go is that last week somebody left a comment in the YouTube channel. Let me share my screen with you real quick. You let me know, you can say. + +Robert Del Rey: I mean, if you should be able to see my screen now, right? + +oo o: Sorry, I keep on forget I muted. I can see your screen. + +Robert Del Rey: No worries So here, this is The last comment we got from this person. Basically, the question is, Can you use a regular computer with a 360 + +Robert Del Rey: Graphic card I guess and put it on the cash network. + +Robert Del Rey: So, that was the question and Instead of replying yes or no. This is the answer that we gave this person. This is gonna be the generic answer or these kind of questions, depending on the question, we're gonna have different answers both about installing equipment to provide to the network. This is the generic answer. We came up with and I will read it out loud. It says, Thanks for watching out. And we encourage everybody to provide whatever resources they have available on a cash. However, the capacity of your equipment, the better chances of you earning aka So this is like the answer so they understand. That. Yeah, you can connect any computer onto a cash. but, + +Robert Del Rey: That doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna get the man for your resources. If you're involved in the community, You can notice that I actually is very involved in getting high and equipment to provide to the network. But They can join. They can connect and they can learn what they have. So here we added the documentation. Here's how to get started. And lastly, an invitation to join the cash discord. their cash discovery is super focused on development so this is the best places to route people to answer their technical questions. So yeah, that's another update about the YouTube initiative. Slowly, we're gonna respond to all of the comments. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, hopefully more common score, And I will stop presenting. so yeah guys, that's all that I had for you today, I gave you an update in the graphic assets and the seating community called Videos, we'll spoke a leader about having a backlog. Using project managers tools against, I will need to chat with Tyler to see what he thinks about it. And I also gave you some good news, like the Cash on the Divisional. The access to download the working group called Videos, and the comments and replies into the Cash YouTube videos. So yeah, one thing I'm gonna take action on is making sure the setting on this core reflects this call as a weekly call instead of a weekly. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, hopefully we meet again in two weeks and that's gonna be Tuesday the 17th Hopefully, we have more updates and more stuff to show off here. Again, If you have any comments, thoughts feedbacks questions concerned, regrets feel free to share them in the YouTube working group channel in a caches discord. Or send me again. I'm always available. most of the time. So, yeah. With that being said, unless anybody else has any objection, I will end this call now. So yeah, thank you guys. Have a nice day. + + +### 00:20:00 + +oo o: Live long and prosper. + +Robert Del Rey: Leave London Prosper. All right, stay safe. Thanks that thanks John. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:21:16 👋 diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8262663c --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md @@ -0,0 +1,244 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #8 + +## Agenda +- Steering committee video update. +- Akash console and Praetor video plans. +- Discussions on funding and breaking down video tutorials. +- YouTube Partner Program eligibility and revenue plans. +- Backlog review for Akash YouTube content ideas. +- Updates to Featured Videos playlist. + + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, October 01, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://pdul7rir4hfznhgpmdrmuzxiourbbjkehk343j7ssvg2ei2ywjya.arweave.net/eOi_xRHhy5acz2DiymbodSIQpUQ6t82n8pVNoiNYsnA) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- B S +- Onaji Fortune +- shiny dev + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Steering Committee Video Update**: + - Robert presented the latest updates on the steering committee videos. A total of 19 steering committee videos have been edited, including trimming dead air at the beginning and end and adding an intro/outro animation. + - Periodic call-to-action reminders appear every five minutes to encourage subscriptions and interactions. These include reminders about following Akash on social media. + - Robert is awaiting Tyler’s approval to make these videos public. They are currently unlisted, viewable only via shared links. + +- **Akash Console and Praetor Video Plans**: + - Robert discussed creating a series of videos for Akash’s primary tools, Akash Console and Praetor, noting that a single, comprehensive video might be challenging to keep updated. + - B S suggested breaking down the content into smaller segments, making it easier to update individual videos if features change. + - Robert will prepare initial drafts covering the Akash Console’s deployment features, templates, and setup procedures. He also plans to confirm if any significant updates are forthcoming for either tool to avoid creating outdated content. + +- **Funding Video for Wallet Setup**: + - There was a discussion about including a separate video to guide users on funding their Akash wallet, specifically for new users who may face difficulties during deployments due to insufficient funds. + - Robert agreed to add this video to the YouTube backlog. B S recommended including common exchanges like Coinbase in this video for a smoother onboarding process. + +- **YouTube Partner Program and Revenue Goals**: + - Robert shared the requirements for Akash’s eligibility in the YouTube Partner Program, including subscriber count, video upload frequency, watch hours, and shorts views. + - The Akash YouTube channel currently meets the subscriber threshold (over 3,600) but needs more recent uploads and higher engagement with shorts to qualify. + - There was excitement about potential revenue, which could support both the Akash community pool and content creators directly, depending on future budget allocations. + +- **Backlog and Content Planning**: + - Robert emphasized the importance of the YouTube backlog document to track content ideas and prioritize tasks. It will include ideas such as wallet funding, tutorial series for Akash Console, and other educational videos. + - B S shared the backlog link in the chat, enabling participants to add or review future content ideas. + +- **Featured Videos Playlist Update**: + - Robert added new external videos to the Featured Videos playlist, including a recent presentation by Akash’s Greg at Token 2049. + - This playlist aims to spotlight Akash-related videos hosted on other channels that garner significant viewership, further promoting Akash Network’s content. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Follow up with Tyler regarding making steering committee videos public. + - Begin drafting segmented video content for Akash Console and Praetor, confirming any upcoming updates to these tools. + - Add a separate video idea on funding Akash wallets to the backlog, covering major exchanges like Coinbase and Kraken. + - Continue engaging with YouTube comments and actively promote Akash on both YouTube and Omniflix TV. + +- **B S**: + - Provide input on video content structure as needed, ensuring tutorials are accessible and easy to update. + +- **Onaji Fortune and shiny dev**: + - Review the YouTube backlog and contribute any new content ideas or suggestions. + +- **General**: + - Engage with the Akash YouTube and Omniniflix channels, watching, liking, and commenting to help boost channel visibility. + - Promote the Akash YouTube channel on personal and professional networks to assist in meeting YouTube Partner Program eligibility requirements. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: And Hello everybody and welcome to today's a YouTube working Group call. This is a weekly And we chat about all A cash YouTube, the focus at the moment, it's improving the content quality. + +Robert Del Rey: In revamping the channel, Improve playlists, add new videos. Like I said, all things related to a cash YouTube My name is Del Rey. And today is October 1st. 2024. Many members of the Akash team are troubling. So it's possible that this call has low attendance, but we are recording it for people. Later. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, all right, so let's jump right into it. I will share my screen. + +Robert Del Rey: I was very excited for today's call. He proposed We've been working In the Cash Sitting Committee videos. + +Robert Del Rey: when I say B s I Denny's and all the people writing sleep to these videos So they are nineteen videos at the moment. About the steering community Maybe we can watch one now so you can notice the drill. + +Robert Del Rey: The steering community call. We had last week. I haven't got the recording of that one, but as soon as I get it, I will definitely update that to YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: That's available. So yeah, some things To notice here. Aside from the beginning, the thumbnail I already speak up spoken about this. You might not see it because of the time here but there is a forward symbol accelerate, you can see it here. I guess it's going very big and it's been accelerate, so let's do that. Let's accelerate Anyway, here you have a brief description about what we spoke about in For example, a steering community. Call number 12, cover key updates on the developer onboarding program. I guess, about that one. Education initiatives, I can see you. + +Robert Del Rey: Provider building programs discussion about Amy Finest. Dlx for marketing. And Lots of stuff. I mean, this cold mostly cover, the silly initiative, just so, you can see here in the title, we have developer onboarding and provider strategies Steering Community. Call Number 12. A cash network. + +Robert Del Rey: There is a call to action. In all videos descriptions, you will find a call to action. It's going to be different depending on the video, just to give some priority to that. and All the links leading to a cash network. Are here and more about For those of you that don't know. YouTube automatically adds videos related to In the lower part of the description. and you just have to add more about the cash and they add those videos below or you can manually just add Any link to any video that you want to see there at the moment, I'm just leaving it automatically. Same as the timestamps. So let's open up the video, right. + +Robert Del Rey: So, you can see later, what is it about? You're gonna notice the intro, + +Robert Del Rey: So there have We have a quick Intro animation, things b, s and then it's for the ideas. at the end, I believe it came out really good and it jumps right into Tyler or the Speaker of the call, someone calls, it's Tyler, some calls, we have Adam, some calls, we have Anil, it doesn't matter. What I do is I try to edit the videos to make sure they start. When they call it starts, sometimes, the recording starts but they mentioned things. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: That maybe are not related to the steering community call or just an extra topic or maybe it's just that air waiting for more people joining. I edit those out of the video. So it jumps right into Tyler giving the introduction. Same happens At the end I noticed that + +Robert Del Rey: I noticed that in the end, some people stay in the call. For example, this call was 44 minutes but the original file. It's one hour. When it reached to an hour, if there is no one talking they call ends automatically. So, usually I get 10 to 15 minutes of that air, because someone remain in the call silent. So, I removed that From the end and add the cash intro in the end. So here's how it looks. + +Robert Del Rey: And you see it ends animation again and that's it. So yeah, Really nice. Just to make sure there is no bit. Hey, look, who's talking there. So that was just to make sure there was not that air in the video. You can find me here. Many people are spoken in this call. It's a good One thing I wanted you to see and this is the last thing we added to those videos, is that every five minutes, you're gonna see this in the lower side of the screen. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, can you see it here? You see here? + +Robert Del Rey: Use the notifications. I guess it's a good reminder for people. It's a good call to action and also that helps them starting paying attention to the video again, sometimes you get distracted and then something happens. And then you pay attention to the video. I guess this can cause this effect. the other message, it's gonna be about Twitter. this, It opens up. It remains in the screen for three to four seconds and then it goes down. + +Robert Del Rey: We maybe try to play around in different sites of the screen. I'm thoroughly open for suggestions. But we can bring them in other videos. Sadly with YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: If we want to upload something, the video has to be ready. We cannot edit the video after is upload it. So we got to make sure everything is ready before hitting the upload. But right. + +Robert Del Rey: So that's all I have for the Steering Committee videos update. I will catch a quick breath. In the meantime, you can bring your questions or comments if any + +Robert Del Rey: If not that's totally fine guys. Remember, you can take your questions Into a cash discord. We have a YouTube channel there dedicated for that so feel free to drop your questions and comments. Yeah, that's all I have for the student community videos, suddenly Tyler's done on this call. I will need to send him a message. + +Robert Del Rey: When, do they want to go live at the moment? They are unlisted, meaning that nobody can see them. Unless I shared this link with you. But nobody can see them. So, I need to follow up with Tyler to see Can we make these public? Hopefully, when they are public, we can get lots of support from their cash community. Remember guys, to subscribe to their cash YouTube channel. If you haven't and comments in all our videos because it helps getting in front of more people. So yeah, let me quickly go to the chat. I saw a message, We work on the videos. I like the periodic call to actions. Thanks, B! S, You demand, thank you for the designs ideas. Also, hopefully we can make more videos in the future. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: But yeah, I thought those periodic reminders would be a good idea. Because sometimes it happens to me that I start watching a video from the feed. In maybe that channel appears so often on the feed. That I think that I'm subscribed to that channel. But actually, I'm not. And when they say the code to action, remember to and subscribe, usually that gives me a break to think about it. And most of the time, I noticed that I'm not subscribed and I subscribe. So, hopefully, this can cause the same effect in the people watching. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah and also when we make these videos come from the recording but we have in plan doing other kinds of videos. So I guess it's gonna be important to have those call to actions in all kinds of videos in a cash YouTube. But yeah, again, 19 the steering committee videos. This is everything since Akash went open source. So yeah, that's what I have. So, let's see when we upload a steering community called video. number 20, and when we make public the rest, + +Robert Del Rey: Let me write that down, so yeah. Anything else you guys want to talk about the sitting committee videos? Otherwise, I move on to the next topic of the agenda. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, the infinite circle. All right, so if nothing I'll move on then. + +Robert Del Rey: Mmm. + +Robert Del Rey: All the next topic in here, again, it's about a cash console videos and Prater videos. I would like to get more details about him, let me stop sharing the scroll. + +Robert Del Rey: So I crash console and paid for as I guess those are the biggest tools available in a cash community. Initially, they started as individual projects and then Overclock team in the community decided to acquire them both, which is awesome. It shows you actually how far you can get in a cash if you actually make it happen, right? So yeah, I got console, It's a tool. For deployments. Yeah, that was the word and Prater. Mostly helps setting up providers. It's a fun interface to create providers. So since they are the two biggest tools we have available besides a cash shot, which is a fairly new. + +Robert Del Rey: I thought it was important to have videos. In fact, it was Tyler who mentioned that we should have and a cash console video. So I wanted to discuss some of the details That. maybe we can agree on and have them in the video. So the next two weeks, I'm planning on working on that video so I can have it ready for the next call. So, I believe it's important to have those details sorted out before I started working in a video. So yeah, starting from the beginning. + +Robert Del Rey: There has to be an Intro to console, Letting people know what is it about and what people can do with it. + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know and please forgive me, but I don't know if there are gonna be changes or updates happening into console. It is very important to confirm that. Because imagine if we do a video about console and in the next week, they update console Now, we will need to do a new video, so I guess it's very important to confirm. Also, if there are updates happening soon, + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I guess I wanted to speak to with Tyler about this, right? So, enter the console and confirm upcoming changes. + +Robert Del Rey: Or maybe I'm confused. I don't know if the one But what was about to change was console or crater. I know they're updating them constantly. But yeah, we need to confirm that. a very basic video, how I see it is that we can have Covering the basic stuff like an intro to Console console always is gonna help you with deployments on a cash network, we can go over the templates in console. If you have a notice on the left side, you got different paths. One of those tabs is templates and you can take any of those templates and + +Robert Del Rey: And copy them and deploy, whatever the template has on a cache using Console. You can even have one, click Deployments and stuff, so I guess that's important to have in that video as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And I don't know what must be in the video. Let's see what B s has to say about it. Breaking into several smaller videos. Will be better. So that they can more easily be updated as needed. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Because for example, let's say, If we upload, at three series video, one is an intro one. It's how to deploy and the third one. It's about whatever, having a cash on Twitter, It's just a crazy example, If they update the process of Coping a template and doing a deployment. it's going to be easier for us just to + +Robert Del Rey: Do that specific video again and maybe a real blog. The video again instead of redoing the whole video just to showcase one step Who change that change, believe. I got it right. + +Robert Del Rey: And the good thing about dividing the videos into series is that we could use those videos and upload them in a cache edu. So people can have a serious of videos to watch until they claim and nfd. That's another idea maybe for another discussion but yeah, I do like this idea of breaking it into a smaller pieces of content. Awesome. Thank you so much. + +Robert Del Rey: Let's see what one thing that always will not always usually when I'm doing a video about console and I need to do a deployment, sometimes I have some Akt in my wallet. Wait, let me say that again. In the wallet that I use to create videos, not my personal wallet, right? I have some AKP there, so I just usually use that dust and I'm able to do whatever I want to do in the tutorial. But I noticed some people, for example, in a cash silly, we had a quest of doing a video about a cash. And some people did a video about console + +Robert Del Rey: And something will happen is that they access the platform, they access the templates, they were almost ready to do the deployment. But they stopped in the pain, for the deployment part in the 0.58 to pay for the deployment. So having said that the question that I have is, let me know, guys, do you think it's better to have a video about how to fund your wallet included, in the Cash console video, or we just need to assume or we would just need to let them know to have funds in their wallets before doing the deployment. + +Robert Del Rey: On my own personal experience. I mean, I guess here we are all very savvy with technology. We know our way to get around and usually when people need to get funds for something, they find a way to do that. I just don't know. the amount of people that would really need us to explain them how to get a 18. So yeah, I leave this up to your consideration. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: A video on how to fund in your Akt while I guess it will be useful. I don't know how useful it will be to have it inside the same Akash console video. But I do believe having a separate video on how to fund your wallet, how to buy Akt. It's always good. So I published last year. About how to stake, Akt, that video has over 5,000 views and it's incredible, but I believe the timing was right and also the value in it. I guess having a video about how to buy Akt separately will be a great year. Yep. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. One using Coinbase would be good since we are in Coinbase. We are in crack, and also talking about the centralized exchanges, the sex, right? But let me write that down. B s, thank you so much. + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe this video about forming your Akt wallet, could be a video or could be something to add in the backlog. and that is something that I would say in the last call, we + +Robert Del Rey: Created a backlog. So, all the ideas that we have about YouTube, we can add them in these backlog. So, as we progress and as we work and as we get things done We can quickly move on to the next thing we want to do and instead of thinking about what we want to do. We can just go to the backlog and Which item Would bring more value to a cache next + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, I will definitely add that. To the backyard. + +Robert Del Rey: Right. + +Robert Del Rey: But if we have a great idea here, thank you for the insights B's. I guess the last question I have is How much do you think we should pay for? Let's say. + +Robert Del Rey: For a 10 to 15 minutes, explain your video about a cash console. + +Robert Del Rey: there is another thing we need to check out, I will try to get some quotes + +Robert Del Rey: But I can share them in the next call, right? Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: yeah, even though at the moment, this is something that we're doing totally voluntarily with no pay. The plan is in the future to have a team. Working in a cash YouTube. This is something that Tyler has a spoken about and That's the reason why I'm asking, how much will that cost? So we can have a good idea in case they ask us. + +Robert Del Rey: But yet. I would get those quotes. I actually use this space a lot fiber in fiber, you can find whatever. thing related to freelancing anything. You want to do in a contract, you can get Any freelancing fiber? This is A free plug. I'm not getting paid for fiber. First thing in this, Argue meaning, in terms of the silic campaign or is this a separate payment? + +Robert Del Rey: Okay. I understand where you coming from. If the payment for this video is coming from the sealy price full, if that was the question. we will need to get new budget for you to separately. Because, we have YouTube, we have Silly has silly money. But we need money for you to so yeah, long answer short. Yeah, it's gonna be a separate payment coming from a different source. Not the silly price. Okay. Awesome. That I got it. okay. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Very productive so far. Thank you guys. yeah, the dust was all the questions that I have in details about a cash console Prater. I know Creator is changing soon for, sure, because I spoke with you are from Peter, and yeah, he told me that they're playing on my grading very soon. Are going to migrate into console or something like that. So, I guess as soon as that happens, we will get into action and do these videos. + +Robert Del Rey: The fourth point I had was about explaining the deployments, paying for the certificate pain, for the deposit, how you pick the best beats or the best providers and paying the lease, right? I believe those are topics. We can have In the Cash console video for sure. + +Robert Del Rey: Great Great Question, B. S, don't take my word for it, but I heard Tyler saying in a few occasions that things like in the future, they would love to Give that revenue. I don't know if it was to the community pool or divided between the community pool and they contributor. But they have plans to use that revenue for the cash community. I believe he said the same for the merger store, a cash has a store where you can buy nurse from teachers and mocks. + +Robert Del Rey: so the plan is to have the community working in YouTube, have the community working in the shop and hopefully I stream of income is created and that income can go to the community pool and maybe can Self-sustain I don't know, something like that. He said maybe we can write this down and ask him in the next YouTube call or just send him in the chat. But yeah, I believe we are remembering the same like he suggested something that they're about the Revenue and YouTube. Let's see. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. I think I remember Tyler suggesting that revenue from YouTube, go to Community Pool but it might be worth thinking about diverting some to the creators. Yeah, I totally agree with that And let me tell you the Cash YouTube channel. We have over 3,000 subscribers. + +Robert Del Rey: Which is the minimum we need to Apply to the in the YouTube Partners Program, Basically, you can get more monetization for your videos. You can add ads to your videos. And also if you have a shop the Ash Shop, we can link it to the cash videos on YouTube and people can click on those videos and go directly to the shop and they can buy directly in YouTube, recycling. I don't know if you seen on Instagram in Instagram, you can see some shop posts, you see the picture and you can see the price. And when you click it, you can do the checkout right away on Instagram. It's the same for you in the YouTube partners program. + +Robert Del Rey: But we need to get there, so For the subscribers part. we are eligible. Let me show you instead. I believe sometimes I just talk to much instead of showing you, Let's see. Let me show you a picture is worth a thousand words, And This is for you guys. Again, thank you for joining those checking the recording later can also see this but basically only you can see this because Most of the people don't join to this type of things so you can see these are the analytics of a cache. We got 3,692 subscribers which is nice. And worries the partners program, one second. That's what you + + +### 00:30:00 + +Robert Del Rey: you go to earn, and you can see here the eligibility We have It's 500 subscribers We need to upload at least three videos in the last 90 days. We have uploaded a video since a cash accelerate sumit. So that's why it shows zero. So when we upload videos from the sitting comedy call, we are going to have enough videos to get this check. The watch hours, this is in the last year, we have to have 3,000 watch hours. so, This is an easy one to get. Again, we haven't uploaded a video in 90 days at least and still we have over a thousand watch hours. + +Robert Del Rey: So this one is another one that's easy to get the one that is going to be tricky. It's the one for the shorts. We need at least three million shorts views. to get to this point when we get all these four, we will be able to get ads to get ads revenue and To link the stores, with the cash YouTube. So Yeah, if you never seen this before, this is how the earn page looks like on YouTube. So yeah, yeah, really cool. So can you imagine that? I guess if we can make this happen in monetize this channel, + +Robert Del Rey: I guess we're gonna be one of the few projects that can say that. I honestly don't recall any project that gives revenue back to the community these kind of revenue things for the community. Usually how you get revenue in other protocols is by lending your crypto or by a staking, right or locking your funds. list, this is another way that we can try to get revenue from my Let's see, it's very exciting if you think about it. So basically our mission is make this channel blow and when this channel blows we get paid or something like that, All right. I'll stop sharing now. Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. + +Robert Del Rey: that's not all I have before wrapping up. I have something to show you. Yeah, again I will share my screen again. I hope you don't mind. + +Robert Del Rey: Let me know if I'm sharing. Okay, this is how the top right? Maybe I love the office. It's a good show. + +Robert Del Rey: I was gonna go to Dekash YouTube So this is the Cash YouTube channel. We remove alanis video that we had here. + +Robert Del Rey: and I don't know the video. more current to a cash. Let me upload that one. I believe that one wasn't supposed to be there. + +Robert Del Rey: A home The trial and Sister video, let me change the video. + +Robert Del Rey: Let's do the power of permissionless. It's actually one of the most popular videos at the moment. Alright, so let's go back to Channel. + +Robert Del Rey: That was quick. Okay. yeah, we need to update these B. S. Remember, we spoke about uploading this banner. I need to follow up with Dennis on that. + +Robert Del Rey: Or maybe if we have his blessing, we can just go ahead and do it selves. I don't mind at all, but yeah, the banner up here. So yeah, what I wanted to show you is that Greg had a talk recently in Talking 2049. They published this video yesterday in a cache twitter, they retweeted this So, nobody told me this. So I just went ahead and searched for that video on YouTube and added to the Feature Videos playlist, to give you a little context. The Feature Videos playlist is a video. Sorry, it's a playlist that we have + + +### 00:35:00 + +Robert Del Rey: featuring a cash videos in other YouTube channels. As you can see this video have 13,000 views. This is cryptocoin. Shows 16, 6000 views alien traits, you might hear about aliot rates before us 30,000 views. So yeah, those videos about a cash. That appear in other channels and get good traction over a thousand views. We are adding them here. Let's see how this one performs. But yesterday, it had 50 views and today, it has over 200. So, yeah, that was one quick update one quick thing. I wanted to share with you about Akash YouTube, This is talking 2049, I'll be on the lookout to add more feature videos in the future. + +Robert Del Rey: I already mentioned about the YouTube backlog. If you have ideas of things to do about Akash YouTube, feel free to add them in the backlog. The link is In the message on I cash YouTube discord channel. Dude, this name are getting wild. So, yeah, in the cash discord, YouTube channel, you be able to find the link to the backlog. I don't have it handed at the moment, so I'm sorry. But yeah, that's all I have for today's call. Before rubbing up guys. Are there any questions Regrets feedbacks. You have to go to share about a cash due to initiative. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you B S. You're my man b s Europe, just shared the backlog. Link in the chat. So shiny. If you want to have a look to the back, Look, you can just quick access to it. I believe we haven't had anything yet, but I will definitely add the video on how to form your Akt wallet and the other ideas that we shot about in this call. So, with that being said, my friends, I wish you a great rest of Tuesday. It's a pleasure for me. Speaking with you chatting, with you and working on behalf of cash network. Let's keep that heat going up. Right. Let's keep on sharing ideas and let's make this a good channel. Let's make this channel blow so we can get that revenue, all right. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank guys again Thank you. Your time to join. I see you in the meta first. All right. Stay safe. Thanks man. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:43:36 👋 diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..38cb03da --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md @@ -0,0 +1,268 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #36 + +## Agenda + +- Review of recent pull requests (PRs) and feedback from team members +- Updates on new menu navigation, provider page, and case study page +- Discussion on the documentation process and tagging protocol +- Resolution of provider calculator decimal issue +- AI model integration for generating graphics on the website +- Overview of upcoming enhancements and design initiatives + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, September 19, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://xizhkq2uh33ndaz2rdywz6karsqwbjimryjtoztgkypczywuaz5q.arweave.net/ujJ1Q1Q-9tGDOojxbPlAjKFgpQyOEzdmZlYeLOLUBns) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Participants + +- Denis Lelic +- Hiroyuki Kumazawa +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- 亀人小河 + +## Meeting Notes + +- **PRs and Feedback on Ecosystem Updates** + - Denis reviewed the latest PR, submitted by Shiny, which adds new projects to the ecosystem page. + - Piyush mentioned two new PRs from Alice: one involves adding new content to the site, and the other is focused on ecosystem recommendations. + - Tyler suggested that, for efficiency, PRs should be merged promptly to avoid delaying additional work and feedback from Zach will be sought in person due to the busy conference schedule. + +- **Menu Navigation and UI Updates** + - The new menu and navigation update introduces a more streamlined structure with dropdown options and easy access to community resources. + - Piyush has a staging link with the redesigned menu, provider page, and case study page ready for feedback. + - Tyler and Denis agreed on moving forward with merging the menu PR to prevent bottlenecks for future site updates. + +- **Documentation Tagging Process** + - Tyler addressed the need for consistent tagging when updating documentation on the site. + - Contributors should tag Scott or other core engineering team members for complex documentation updates, while simpler updates can be handled directly. + - Piyush suggested adding labels to automate this tagging process in GitHub. + +- **Provider Calculator Decimal Issue** + - Tyler noted a user-reported issue where the provider calculator didn’t accept decimal input. + - Piyush confirmed the issue is related to the input boxes, which do not currently accept decimal values. He will address it and resolve the bug shortly. + +- **New AI Model for Website Graphics** + - Piyush raised a potential project involving AI-generated graphics for the Akash website. + - Denis proposed experimenting with training an AI model using representative Akash images to generate consistent graphics aligned with Akash branding. + - Piyush and Denis agreed to explore different AI tools like Flux for generating high-quality visuals. + +- **Design and Content Initiatives** + - Denis is working on drafts for new page designs that will build on the recently updated menu experience. + - Upcoming pages will enhance usability, providing users with more digestible sections and visual appeal. + - Robert highlighted the importance of engaging the community through Discord and encouraged suggestions for further optimization. + + +## Closing Remarks + +- Denis expressed appreciation for everyone’s efforts in improving the Akash website and emphasized the importance of moving quickly to keep updates aligned with community needs. +- The team agreed to reconvene in two weeks, with ongoing discussion and progress updates to continue on Discord and GitHub. + +## Action Items +- **Denis** + - Finalize the new menu PR, incorporating any last feedback, and prepare for the next stage of UI updates. + - Begin testing AI-generated graphics for potential integration on the Akash website. + - Share drafts of upcoming pages with the team for feedback. + +- **Piyush** + - Implement a fix for the provider calculator decimal issue to allow accurate user input. + - Review and merge PRs from Alice after receiving final feedback from Denis. + - Research AI tools for graphics generation and begin testing with Flux. + +- **Tyler** + - Follow up with contributors on documentation tagging protocols and explore label-based automation. + - Monitor community input on Discord for suggestions related to site improvements. + +# **Transcript** + +Piyush: Hello, hello. + +Piyush: Tyler, I think you are not audible to me. + +Robert Del Rey: I can hear your piyush. + +Piyush: Yeah, I think can you hear Tyler? I think is not audible. + +Robert Del Rey: No. I can hear him. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Hey guys, can you hear me? + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, Denis. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, great. I had some issues with my microphone. + +Tyler Wright: Can you hear? + +Piyush: Tyler, we can't hear you. + +Denis Lelic: As Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: Can you hear me? + +Piyush: Yeah, no, no. We can hear. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, I'm not sure if you didn't hear anything from me but just go back very quickly. Again, it's welcome to the working group with Akash website. It's September 19th. 2024 The Working Group, The cost website is a weekly meeting where folks and participants usually led by Denis and Piyush. Go over things related to the Akash website. That's everything from all the pages on the website and now includes documentation which is available at network Slash Docs. again, we usually go through any open issues in the website repo as the folks and get participation, but I'll hand over to Dennis, to get us started with the agenda. I have a couple of things that I wanted to cover at some point, but again, I'll end up with dentist to get it started. + +Denis Lelic: Text Site. Yeah, I would suggest, we keep the usual schedule of this working group. So we usually check on PRS and newly created issues and anything. Of course, website related. I've just added the latest PR in the chat section. Here this was + +Denis Lelic: This was a PR created for adding new projects to the ecosystem page and it was done by Shiny. I provided some feedback on the PR he created and I have to check Everything before we merge all appear to let you know when I check on that. + +Denis Lelic: One thing I talked about with Tyler is still have a look at the issues and Lows, the ones that Either relevant or are completed. Maybe the latest one that was created by convey Ghost Smartphone global menu is necessary to update. We have Not a staging link from Piyush. That's already solving that. So obviously we + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Thanks Tyler for sharing. Yeah I would just suggest we delete this issue or solve it as close or anything. Yeah, I know a piyush. You still owe you Additional feedback, not for my side but from Zack and others on the new menu experience. And we have the + +Denis Lelic: A new providers page and we have Case Studies page. So it's going to be a PR that's gonna do some changes. On the existing website and hopefully for the better, but I'm still waiting for that feedback from others, but they're all of them attending conferences. So it's a busy month this month and hopefully I'll hear back from them quite soon. But again, I was talking with Tyler that maybe we could just merge that thing because first of all, it's an improvement to the UI. That's a content related. So there's no copy changes, basically. So we might + +Denis Lelic: Just merge it without feedback from Zach, I'm pretty sure he's gonna approve all the UI changes because it's way better experience that what we have now. So yeah, you're sorry for. I know you did it a while ago and we talked about it but + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I still don't have the final feedback. + +Piyush: Yeah. Yeah, no worries. I'm also at the token 2049. So today was the second day for the event. And We also hosted a lot of side events here and a lot of presentation was there from the devs under the committee members. So I'll personal chat with Zac, probably tomorrow when we meet to get the final feedback and if he likes it or he will approves or find something that we can change, then we'll do or else. We'll just merge it within a day or two. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Yeah, I didn't know you were attending the same conference. Then great. You can get all the information first hand. + +Piyush: Yeah, sure. + +Denis Lelic: Is it late for you now? + +Piyush: Yeah, I'm in Singapore. So right now it's 9:40 pm So, around me. We just came back from the events around 7 pm. So, I just laying around here in the room. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Cool. Yeah, thanks for joining. + +Piyush: Yeah, no. + +Denis Lelic: Tyler, you wanted to say something? + +Tyler Wright: Thank you for joining Piyush. Yeah, there's a couple things I think I talked to Piyush about this previously with the documentation portion of the + +Tyler Wright: A officially on the website and the groups. for now combined again, that'll change the cadence for SIG, documentation, and with docs being covered here and our core engineering team being very, very thin whenever we have any documentation updates. Again, if it's just like a simple updates, we can push them ourselves. It's a little bit more complex than we're. Just gonna make sure that we tag a member of the core engineering team. either Scott or somebody else just for them to put an eye on it, prior to it, going out just to say, structural formality. I think we talked about that. So I just want to let folks know that contribute to documentation, + +Tyler Wright: if you can tag yourself, Scott McCain Zero. I think it's just pardon me his github, Then I'll save peers some time and effort to happen to do it. And again That's something that maybe we can just add under the labels. That automatically also just adds one of those people as a reviewer but I just want to let folks know that again, much appreciate peers for all the work. And after all the contributors for all that they're doing, this is a great way to contribute. I think there's a number of issues that are either in the process of being resolved and so we'll close those or, being resolve another contributors and ecosystem that are like, + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Pumping at the bit for new issues. So, again, if you see any issues related to the website or related to documentation that we think in be worked on or if anybody here on the call season the issues, creating an issue here and then we can again talk about it to discord talk about the meetings and then assign it and move forward. Any questions there? I have one more thing I want to talk about real fast, but any questions on that + +Piyush: I think we have two new PRS from Alice it, so one of the PR is related to the recommendations where he's adding some of the new content to the site plus and other PR is related to the ecosystem. I think Denis is already being it called recommendations, I've already tagged Android so hopefully he'll leave it files. I'll just gym skort to take a look and if you approves then we can merge. The peer there is + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank you very much. All right moving along. I'm not sure if there's an issue for this yet but I did see a discord that I Akash insider brought this up in the website channel around decimals on the provider calculator is I just want to see if that was something that has been resolved. I know it's from maybe 10 days ago or 12 days ago or is that something needs if initially needs to be created in, somebody can handle that real fast. + +Piyush: so, I think It needs to be resolved. So the issue is more about with the sliders or decimals are visible. But when he's clicking the boxes to write the numbers, I think it's not letting him write the numbers in decimal. So we'll just resolve it quickly and let + +Denis Lelic: So, are we creating an issue for this or… + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much. + +Denis Lelic: piyush? Will you take care of + +Piyush: So I'll take care of memories notification. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Denis Lelic: I got anything else. + +Tyler Wright: That's all I had. Yeah, No. Those are the two things that I wanted to cover today. with, I guess the third being again I'm just a call to action to people on the call people in the community. Let's see any thing that can optimize the current website. feel free to get drop ideas in discord and issues etc. We can talk about them and then figure out a plan to move forward. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, that sounds good. I have a couple of other things in the pipeline, but first, I would like to see the PR merged with new menu and the rest of the pages. And after that, + +Denis Lelic: I'll create new issues and update some of the older ones new designs. Yes, I go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: Just throwing out the idea. if you have some new ideas that are based upon this PR that needs to be merged, I know Piyush said he's going to be meeting with Zack tomorrow. I know that Zach has previously seeing these ideas and it's supported them. I'm of the belief that we should because this group here has also supports these ideas that we should merge the PR maybe today on a Thursday. And then, if there's any changes that need to be made, we could make those over the weekend or next Monday. Versus Trying to do it tomorrow, which compared to be a Friday, + +Tyler Wright: This is my two cents but I'm happy to move forward. However, I just don't want the process of future PRs that people could be working on to be slowed down by this work. But yeah, that's just based upon new information, So just putting that out there on + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. we have to figure out a way to avoid any blockers, so, + +Denis Lelic: either we call or tag these I'm not sure should call them decision makers, but they were. Pretty much involved in this working group, so if they want to chime in they could, but I wouldn't let it rest for a month or two just to receive a feedback. So personally I would like to move forward faster. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Piyush: So I think what we can do as the work done I think we did it a few weeks ago. So what we can do is we'll just take a day to just review it. if there are unbox, if there are any books will just resolve and then merge, the PR by tomorrow. + +Piyush: Yeah, thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, that sounds good. We'll talk either through discord or any other channels we have. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, from my side. I guess number one priority, would be the PR of that menu. And I'm already working on a couple of design drives for + +Denis Lelic: other pages that we can build on top of that new menu experience. So hopefully I'll create them in the next week or So next time we meet, we're ready to make. Some progress. + +Denis Lelic: so, Anything else you guys want to discuss? I see Robert. Go ahead, please. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, hey everybody. It's great to see that when you guys work in this class And agree on the next steps. Keep it up guys. Really good job. I just wanted to say the secret word for silly. as it's gonna be the same as last month. w w. With that secret word, you can earn some extra XP points on Akash ceiling. Thank you, Denis. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, from my side I think it pretty much covered everything, piyush tie. If you're have anything else to add, please go ahead. Otherwise we can make this meeting a bit shorter than usual. + +Piyush: So this one issue that you created on Denis, it's kind of an AI model which considered I think related to So your idea was to basically generate the banners or whatever the user is prompting into the Prompt. It generates basically something related to the cross graphics. So I just want a little bit more brief on this and where do you want to get this added on the website so we can move forward with the addition of this model on the website itself. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, we first have to kind of decide on the direction of these graphics and then we could grab at the moment we have this as the Excel, which is a bit outdated and I think Julius is already working on, you experience with adding and choosing different models. What I was thinking, what we could do is to Train. + +Denis Lelic: Flux model with certain set of images that we think are representative. As of Akash and we can play around with that and what happens and what kind of images are being generated and if that is good enough for + +Denis Lelic: Just to be Representative Akash as a brand. + +Piyush: Yeah, So definitely look into it. So let's see. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, if you find time, maybe you can just play around. I saw there are some + +Denis Lelic: A great resources I think it's called Laura Flux. Maybe I'll + +Piyush: State. … + +Denis Lelic: Look slower collection. + +Piyush: the best image model right now,… + +Denis Lelic: I'm just trying to find a link. + +Piyush: that is present in the market is the flux. So it came into the market recently, but the quality of majors started produces as much,… + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Piyush: much higher compared to what others are doing. So yeah, + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. It's way better than the Asia. And as the Excel, So yeah, I'll pick Julie is just to see. + +Denis Lelic: is he making any progress with it or is morally, mainly focused on + +Denis Lelic: Thanks to text model. At the moment. So I'll bring him just to see where we at but in the meantime yeah Piyush. Go ahead, please do some research and + +Piyush: good fine. + +Denis Lelic: We'll see what we can do in the future. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, sounds good. + +Denis Lelic: Our Thai. If you agree, real, we can just wrap it up. So, thanks again, everyone for joining. Feel free to DM me. If you read anything design related, if you want to talk about SIG design, or Anything website related product design related? + +Denis Lelic: On discord, you can find me Denis Core team but keep an eye on the Akash Network website repo, where we Frequently post and create new issues. So if anyone is interested to contribute there, You'll find some work, of course. + +Denis Lelic: thanks again for joining and we'll see each other in two weeks. + +Piyush: Thank you, you + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Stay safe, everybody. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:08 👋 +