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Participants can share input via Discord or during the meeting. + - No immediate community feedback was brought up at the start of the session. + +- **Project Boards Review** + - Tyler reviewed the Akash project boards, including the product and engineering roadmap, community and marketing initiatives, and updates on Akash Console and other core projects. + - Emphasis was placed on transparency and keeping these boards public-facing for community engagement. + - Tyler noted that due to extensive travel by team members, certain SIGs and working groups had postponed updates but remain active. + +- **Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade Update** + - Artur Troian provided a technical update on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade, noting that significant testing and validation are underway. + - Highlighted current resource requirements for the upgrade, including increased RAM and CPU for validators. + - Estimated timeline for public testnet release shared, with pending internal testing completion. + - Artur addressed logistical issues regarding GitHub actions and resource management, and Tyler requested feedback or questions from the community. + +- **Console 2.0 Development** + - The product team is progressing on Console 2.0 with development updates discussed at the recent SIG Providers meeting. + - The team is working on trial wallet integration, fiat payments, and other features planned for community testing soon. + +- **Event Recaps and Insights** + - Amanda Keay recapped the team’s participation in recent global events, including a main stage presentation by Greg and several side events hosted by Akash. + - Notable highlights included: + - Over 200 attendees at a rooftop kickoff event and 100 at a Powered Summit. + - 2000+ merchandise items distributed across events. + - Successful community engagement with over 3000 email sign-ups from event attendees. + - Zach Horn added insights on Korea Blockchain Week and Token2049, noting differences in audience demographics and engagement levels. + +- **YouTube and Developer Onboarding Initiatives** + - Robert Del Rey updated on Akash’s YouTube content strategy, supported by community members like BS and Dennis. + - Community members are invited to contribute to content creation around Akash services and related workflows. + - Zealy, a developer onboarding program, concluded its second sprint with reviews ongoing, aiming to enhance engagement and transparency. + +- **Akash Chat API** + - Recent updates on the Akash Chat API were announced, including the release of Llama32, developed rapidly by Julius for community testing and feedback. + +- **Discussions on Community Contributions** + - Acknowledged ongoing contributions from community members, with special recognition for participants actively engaging in documentation, project boards, and SIG sessions. + +- **New Proposal from Alchemy** + - Kyle Walden of Alchemy introduced a potential collaboration, offering to support Akash in launching a chain and gathering product feedback. + - Tyler welcomed the proposal but suggested that Kyle follow up in a SIG working group or GitHub discussion to refine the collaboration's objectives. + +- **Closing Remarks** + - Tyler highlighted upcoming SIG meetings and encouraged community participation in project boards, GitHub discussions, and Discord channels. + - Cheng Wang reiterated the importance of community involvement, praising contributors who have grown to core team roles and encouraging new members to engage. + +## Action Items +- **Community Feedback Collection**: Tyler to gather additional community feedback via Discord or GitHub discussions. +- **Cosmos SDK 47 Testing**: Artur to complete final stages of internal testing and initiate public testnet, updating the community on progress and requirements. +- **Console 2.0 Testing**: Product team to begin community testing for Console 2.0 and provide further updates. +- **Event Recap Documentation**: Amanda to share a retrospective of recent events, with community members contributing to ongoing event planning. +- **YouTube Content Development**: Robert to continue expanding Akash’s YouTube content, inviting community members to contribute. +- **Developer Onboarding**: Robert and Piber to finalize the review of Zealy Sprint 2 and address feedback. +- **Alchemy Proposal Follow-Up**: Kyle and Tyler to coordinate next steps for the proposed partnership through SIG discussions. +- **Next Meeting Preparations**: Tyler to prepare the agenda and schedule for the upcoming SIG meetings and updates. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All Welcome everybody to the Cost Steering committee. I believe this is number 20. It is September 26th 2024. + +Tyler Wright: During the Akash Syrian Committee meetings, the Accostering committee in the community, go over an agenda that I will share on screen right now. Again, the agenda is in multiple parts. You can see past meetings, notes, transcripts and recordings available Get on GitHub inside. The community. Repo we start off by reviewing discussing and addressing any community feedback or even since our conflicts related to six working groups or anything else. Then we go into project boards Then we discuss any active github discussions. With a focus on github discussions, that have a lot of comments, a lot of people talking about it and then again see if there's anything else on the discuss inside. And then we open up the floor to see. There's any other questions from anybody on the call? + +Tyler Wright: Again, I don't have any active discussions slated for today, but I did want to see before I hop into the agenda. If there's any items that anybody wants to discuss towards the end of the call, Could drop them in chat. + +Tyler Wright: Alright, getting us going again. I just want to see if there was anything that anybody wanted to discussed or address, or any community feedback, relate to sigs, working groups or anything else on the Akash community side. + +Tyler Wright: Again, If anybody has any feedback, I know that people get feedback and discord or reach out to me in between meeting, but feel free to reach out to myself or anybody. And we can continue to improve and make adjustments. + +Tyler Wright: I see Kyle drop the message in a chat and we'll take some time for it at the end. Thank you, All Next up is a review of the cost projects boards. So as everybody knows there are a couple of project boards that are always public facing. There's a product and engineering roadmap and there's also a community and marketing initiatives project board. Again, these are project boards there are always transparent and forward facing related to things like Akash console, the core product on the product and engineering side as well as a number of other items and then the community side. Again, there's a number of efforts that are ongoing + +Tyler Wright: I know that there's been a great deal of progress that has been discussed in various CIGS and working groups. So I don't want to duplicate work and I know that those teams are actually been traveling a fair amount. And so, I know folks are less than a hundred percent and are on the move. + +Tyler Wright: I do want to pass it over to potentially Scott and Archer to talk a little bit about constant SDK, 47 upgrade because I know that there's been a significant amount of work that has been going on with again, the proposal just passing on chain to support all that work. And I believe we're in the final stages of internal testing by the core engineering team. And then again, there's a number of folks that have already reached out to that are looking to get involved in some more public testing. But I'll hand over to Archer Scott to maybe talk a little bit more about SDK upgrade to version zero.org. That's it. + +Artur Troian: Thanks, hi everyone. I think I do for some updates on this particular subject. as you probably know a great path to the Sdk47 is quite complicated and we have good base migration for chain, which done and a bunch of migrations and testings are passing. so that's pretty much a good science since I think again of the August, And we had a couple sort of internal things to prioritize on, and that's why maybe there will not that many movements on the educational to seven. However, I just want to show The + +Artur Troian: Keep going is the things we just don't always committee post one days. Anyways, this point, we pretty much preparing to lunch test. Now, there are one sort of blocker, this moment providing me from kite in the releases and that is related and to understanding on the actual mainnet state, So, just to give a picture of the upgrades, quite heavy and it will require a lot of resources from the validators. So think right now we just targeted for 128 gigs of RAM. And to run the tests, we need to have on the testnet through. What a daters. And that means, obviously, if you do the monthly, 384 gigs ram, that's it, just make sure the consensus is right, and so forth. And that takes quite a lot of time and sometimes machines, + + +### 00:05:00 + +Artur Troian: Moving on the github actions, don't provide many resources. So we have to source them ourselves and Keep an eye on the things, but hopefully by end of this week, we're gonna solve this particular hiccup that we have and start releasing cutting the better reasons and fire up test that. So we can start testing all the blockchain related transactions and make sure that no existing behavior patterns are broken and everything new in terms of the blockchain works. As soon as we confirm that that is the case. We started in boilers and the network and enhance dancing. So a thing that is pretty much it for my site. + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any questions again? There will be I think the SIG chain meeting for the month of September was postponed. As we get ready for again, a more public testnet with some insiders and just general members of the Akash community to test upgrade, There'll be some more public messaging shared There'll be a sick chain meeting where folks can ask questions we can talk about things a little bit more detail. So look out for that on the calendar upcoming. + +Tyler Wright: real quick, I'm just looking for the message right now and I dropped it in the validators announcements as well alluding to some of the stuff that Artur has been talking about. But just about the shared size of what this upgrade involves. I think I've mentioned it If anybody here is a validator or anybody listening to this call later as a validator, there is going to be a requirement for more RAM and CPU 128 gigs of RAM and eight cores CPU will be minimum requirements for this network upgrade. I know there's less than that and I'm a requirements for typical validators but because the nature of this upgrade, we're asking for folks to make sure that their resources are up to snuff so that we can have as smooth and upgrade as we have had, in the recent past on a number of vacations. + +Tyler Wright: Cool. + +Tyler Wright: Again I know that the product team has been working extremely hard on Console 2.0 a number of different phases. In the Sick Providers Meeting yesterday, are Jigar & Duvall talked at length, about some of the things that they've been doing on the provider side of the console console 2.0. I know in previous SIG clients meetings, we've heard from all a cost product team on updates to again trial. While it's fiat payments, which is going to be moved. So I think testing sometimes soon, I know this is something that members of core team and also members of the community. It's also been looking at events, which we'll talk about soon, but I just want to see outside of that. Is there anything from anybody from the product? Team, specifically wants to call out here to other community on the standard committee. Don't feel the blush. I know we have, again, six and working groups. And other times that we talk about, + +Tyler Wright: I just want to see if there's anything that anybody want to call out or discuss any further. On the track and engineering roadmap. + +Tyler Wright: If not, then again, we'll move along. I know that again. It's been a very busy time. Thank you to all the insiders that have been going to events. Thank you, to all, the members of the core team that have been traveling across the world attending events putting on events. There's just been a lot going on in that front. I did before we hop into a number of other items that are happening on the community and marketing side. I did want to hand it over to Amanda and potentially Zach and then other people that were maybe at these events can chime in. But I know there's have been a lot of events that have happened since our last steering committee meeting and then a number of events happening in the next couple of weeks as well. So, Amanda, maybe I could kick it over you to talk about, some of the things that have happened and what's up coming. + +Amanda Keay: So still trying to catch up on my sleep that flight from Singapore was horrible but it was a really good trip. We had four insiders that came and we had a main sponsorship for the booth was there. We had Greg was able to get a full-time speaking slot on stage instead of just the panel. So that was really great. I think Greg participated in eight or nine separate events Anil participated in four Zach participated in one panel. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Amanda Keay: And Akash itself posted three different events. One of them was a rooftop kind of kick off event in which we had over. 200 people show up which was really super successful and met a lot of really great people, had some good connections there, we also hosted an powered summit, which was similar to our Akash accelerate except just much shorter and smaller, but we had a two different panels and a couple really great presentation from partners that are using Akash. And we had about a hundred people show up for that. And then we did a VIP sort of yacht event which we invited some special guests to come on board, pun intended, and that was really, really good. So all together, + +Amanda Keay: Cheng did participate in a panel. Yes, it was not originally on the agenda but he got invited that week. So that was another great win. So we had four different people from our team participate in different panels and multiple media interviews and stuff. So that was really, really awesome. I just did a retro of the event so that will be I guess shared. I don't know how we're gonna do that but just showing all of our different leads and stuff. I think we were able to collect close to 3,000 emails from the events. And just had a really great time. Thank you. All the insiders who showed up and man the booth and gave out you have to ask Zach, I don't remember how many pieces of merch, I think it was somewhere around 1300 pieces of merch that we were able to give away. But yeah, it was really awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, And I know not to put Zach on the spot, but I know that Zach was at both Korea Blockchain week and talking 2049, I think he's trying to catch up on sleep himself or he's displaying time between America and Asia at this point. But Zach, is there anything particularly that you wanted to talk about in terms of career blockchain week? Because I know they were kind of two different audiences, talking 249 and career Blockchain week. + +Zach Horn: Yeah, jet lag is no joke. We Amanda and I are both still in the process of shifting back. Cheng is too. I guess the one thing I'll say from both events is that the insiders absolutely crushed it. I mean, we had two boots at both of the events. everyone did such a great job and it's not nothing to be at those booze, all day. + +Zach Horn: What jetlag what you like Cheng? it's not nothing to be at those booze all day and the insiders just did a really fantastic job. So, shout out to everyone that was there. Both of those events and coming up for for May not next week. The number on the merch, you were looking for Amanda's 2,000, we gave that over 2000 pieces of merch across both events, which we've been scaling up the merch that we've been taking to these things. And now, we're just at a totally different level that we were before and the Merch is really good. I mean, people really love it. You know what, we're giving it out. People will take it and put it right on so exactly what you want to see there, but overall it was great. And again, just the insiders absolutely amazing. What was the difference between Korean Singapore, Korea was a little bit more gosh. + +Zach Horn: Korea was a smaller event by a little bit of a margin token, was much much larger and obviously very investor heavy. Maybe slightly more deb heavy in Korea. that's what I felt like in terms of connections. But token was, I'd call it three times the size and, much more focused on obviously the token side of things, and investments, and DC funds, and all that. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you nda. Any other questions around events before we move on? + +Tyler Wright: I know that some folks aren't here, but we have a weekly working group around the Akash website and docs, I just want to call out all the people that come to that. it's a very active group. Some of those folks go on to contribute with the website, contribute to ducks, then help contribute to console. So it's a very, very active group. Shout out to, Dennis Zach obviously pierce from the community who helps to organize and helps with that group. But again, if anybody wants to get involved a little bit more with the website or any open bounties on the website Docs, feel free to join that group. Feel free to look at the issues inside the website, repo. That's another great way to get involved. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Do things that I want to make time for before I open up to see if there's anything else, anybody wants to discuss on the community and marketing side is, I know that Robert has been leading and pushing forward a couple of initiatives you can see updates that happen around working groups daily and we talk about it I think again there's a working group that happens every two weeks that you can join. There's a very, very active discord channel where you could talk where you can see what's going on Zeely, which is a developer onboarding program, Robert and Piper deaf from the community actively work on and lead those efforts. But I do want to call it. Some work that Robert has been leading alongside some other members of the core team and community, I'll call out B s as well who's also been a great support from the Net of Doubt team around the Akash YouTube. I know that again, this is something that has been looked at different points, obviously with the core team working on. So, + +Tyler Wright: Different initiatives is something. I think we want to get some community support for. So I do want to pass over to Robert for a minute or two just to talk about what's been going on in that group. And then just again continuing to invite people that maybe have some video chats or opinions about YouTube in general to again start joining those working group sessions and get involved. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Tyler. Yeah, I will quickly say that. + +Robert Del Rey: Where we bumping the cash YouTube, right? B, s, even outstanding support also Dennis with the graphic assets in their cash YouTube channel. We have All the steering committee called videos, all the 19 calls we got so far. This is the number 20 + +Robert Del Rey: But all the 19 calls we got so far on the steering committee. Call are uploaded in YouTube. At the moment, there are only listed so nobody can see them unless they have a link. We plan to go live really soon with the new pieces of content. So, like Heller was saying, If you have interest in YouTube, if you believe you have talents, you can use in the YouTube Working Group, feel free to pass by the YouTube Working Group channel, and we can take it from there next it's October 1st on next Tuesday. So, the next YouTube working group called It's Happening. Next Tuesday, the first for free to go there, so you can get a deeper route on the videos and what we're doing and how we progress into the next phase of. These are the moment we're uploading accordions for the different calls. + +Robert Del Rey: But we want to expand and upload other kinds of content and create all the kinds of content from zero. So yeah, if you like to get involved, Feel free to go there about Seeley. We're just wrapping up the sprint. Number two, still reviewing, lots of submissions still dealing with some bugs. Some people are trying to gain the system but Benji and I have been doing, I would say at this end job mitigating that we also get lots of feedback from the participants in how we can improve the process of doing the nations, which I'm really thankful for. And yeah, that's The two things I really wanted to cover in case you have any questions I'm here and also opening the DMS + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank ert. I just jumping back to the Akash YouTube effort. Again, the prompt is really Increasing just awareness on YouTube and exploration around There's certainly a number of videos around the token and Akt but creating more content at searchable around the open framework around the cost. What a cost does, how to use a cost console? How to build a caution to your workflow? Think creating? Those kinds of videos will go a long way and being able to again connect with different kinds of learners and maybe trying to use the crash network. So, feel free to get involved. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: Again, I know there's a number of efforts going on the community and marketing side. I know a cash chat API something that's been ongoing and there's continues to be a number of updates there. shout out other members of ZJ other folks that are working on that Zach. Feel free if you want to talk about that, if not, then again we can continue to move along. But I know there's a number of updates in a specific. There's some channels and discord or people can stay up to date and get connected. + +Zach Horn: The only thing I'll say is that we did launch a Llama32 yesterday, a couple hours after it came out. obviously shout out to Julius for turning that around about as quickly as you possibly could. If you test it out, you run into any issues, just let us know. It's always a work at progress but credit where it's due, Julius is absolutely crushing it. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Zach again. Adam Wozney head of community at a crashes, just getting back from some time away on the personal basis. He has been getting up to speed on everything from Akashi EDU to the insider program. Some other initiatives that will get added to this board. So again continue to look out for updates on the community of marketing side, as well as a product and engineering side and both these boards are available at the Akash Network Github or inside the projects area. So again if anybody has any questions that can leave them inside, specific issues or drop them in discord. Is there anything else that anybody wants to discuss on the committee and marketing side before we move on to other agenda items? + +Tyler Wright: All Next up on the agenda, we would typically go over discussions. I just want to remind folks that. Again, if you see discussions in there, please look to get involved, usually how the structure works. And there will be updates made to the structure, whether it be around governance proposals, or just in general. What we tried to do is have folks that have ideas, thoughts, etc. Get involved in discord and get involved in cigar working group at a live meetings. There's meetings that happening, they're happening across a number of different items etc, on a weekly basis. to You share your ideas with the community if you don't have time because you have a day job, then usually ask folks to create a github discussion, where they can talk about their idea a little bit more. Again, we have a number of different tags, including ideas where you can talk about integr. + +Tyler Wright: You could talk about collaborations etc as much detail as you can provide in these discussions, it goes a long way so that folks from the community don't have to ask questions again if you don't have enough detail, folks are just going to assume that you just don't understand what you're talking about and then the discussion may not get that much response but the more detail and the more specifics you can provide on the value, add to their cash network etc. Would go a long way in creating active discussions. the only thing that I will call out real quick is, + +Tyler Wright: And then I'll see if there's any other discussions. I know a member of the Akash insiders started talking about a car awesome Akash and meeting some improvements to the Readme file. Maybe the structure. This is something that has been talked about in SIG clients for some time and I know that Piper debt from the community did a version of a PR just like reorganizing it right now. This conversation is on hold because there are implications to Akash console and we want to make sure that we have a complete picture before we move forward with making updates to awesome Akash again. If there's anything new to anybody wants to act awesome across, or there is a foolproof structure in place for how PRs get merged. There's a number of reviewers that are involved in reviewing the PRS, but I know there's might be some technical debt, and some structural changes that might be in. + +Tyler Wright: But I just want to let people know that this is something that is being thought about, but again, because of a number of other efforts happening with consult 2.0 and beyond this is something that we are going to put on. Hold and discuss probably a little bit further at a future sick clients meeting. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: any questions there or does anyone have anything else that they want to? Have talked about here related to discussions. + +Tyler Wright: All right, moving along. Again, we usually try to have these sorts of conversations in a cigar working group before having them in a steering committee. But Kyle, I do appreciate you joining the meeting today and I think we're running a little bit of heads, get ahead of schedule. it would be great. I know that you had a topic that you wanted to Scott discuss at the pertain Sir Caution alchemy again, this steering committee is for efforts that benefit the Akash network. That's what the community and the steering Committee is focus on. So any initiative integrations etc would have to show that kind of benefit to the class network for folks add value. This is a very vocal community, both folks on this call and just generally in the community. So that's something that has been consistent since the beginning. So if you have maybe a 30 second pitch, that you want to talk about and then maybe we could take this to a cigar working group or you can create a discussion + +Tyler Wright: Do want to give you some time Kyle to talk on this call because you are here. So, the floor is yours to talk for a quick. Second about a caution alchemy. + +Kyle Walden: Yeah, appreciate it. And I was the reason why I joined today is I think I linked up with one of your colleagues on telegram and they said, maybe this would be an appropriate forum. But anyways, keeping it super short and tight. Here we at alchemy were helping a lot of AI projects and decentralized compute projects launched their own chains on EVM and I've been familiar with a kosh for a while and saw that there might be a strong fit. And so one just reach out and get feedback. Maybe there's some other gaps in our products that we need to build to be good for the AI and decentralized compute like industry, but we're playing on making some pretty big asymmetrical bit bets for teams like this and in the space. So So, a direct ass would be Hey maybe we help you launch a chain. The secondary ask would love to get feedback on what products we can build. That would be useful for projects that are similar to yours. + +Tyler Wright: All right, I can follow up not really sure who talked to but I will make sure to follow up with you online about potential. Next steps there, if any. But again,… + +Kyle Walden: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: again, sorry for if somebody misled you, we try to have a little bit more refined discussions at this part. But again, because you were here, I just wanted to give you some time to just talk for a second. + +Kyle Walden: Hey, I appreciate it. It was cool listening and I've never been a part of something like this. So it was cool to watch and learned a lot and thanks for letting me hang on and listen so I really appreciate it. + +Tyler Wright: Not much appreciate you and I'll follow up with you. I'm following this. + +Kyle Walden: Awesome. Thanks, Tyler. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Just want to see if there is any other topics that anybody wanted to discuss at this point. + +Tyler Wright: All right, looking ahead again I'm sure there will be a number of updates made from the Akash Console product. Team on all the work that they've been doing began update from Archer. And as we look forward, there will I know some testing. Again, if you want to get involved in that testing, please make your voice heard and sick chain. There'll be a sick chain meeting. I think happening in the week or two, we'll talk more in depth, as we get ready, for what will be a massive constant SDK upgrade to customers at the k47. Again, there's a number of events coming up including Ray Summit as well, and sorry, I mean, that's a number of other items happening in October. There's just a number of things happening across the entire Akash ecosystem. I just want to shout out everybody here for all their efforts. Thank you for taking the time here today. For getting involved for making your voices. Heard, thank you to all. Those are listening in and watching this later, feel free. + +Tyler Wright: To join a cigar working group, if you don't know which one to join, please just ask in general chatter, Ask an insider or myself. I'm about things that you're interested in and I know is again Console continues to mature. They'll be more opportunities to contribute there. I know there's again, a number of opportunities being created by SIG, design around the website, etc. So please look to get involved and we'll continue to again, appreciate those contributions. always the man with the last word. Go ahead Cheng. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Cheng Wang: Apologies, I come on, Andrew. Trying to wait for you, to finish up your beautiful, tie out. Now before I jump in here, but I definitely want to read Orade. The importance of the community here in the contributions. By everyone. mean just proof is in the pudding, and I want to put this in recording in and writing, and of course, everyone here to listen to live, So folks, obviously the maxes and the folks over, jigar in those and prayer to our kind of the og's, in the space, right? But just even recently, those who have contributed meaningfully to a caution like ZJ. Now, even his brother right are started off contributing in some light weight fashion that kind of continue to develop and now, essentially part of the core team, right? So that's been absolutely huge boon and then do me has been a huge moon and a find it in the community for us. And so, shout out to all of you guys there. and we're gonna probably work on something with a little bit more involvement with Domi as well, and so, + +Cheng Wang: Please do come in if you're willing to do stuff for a cost, there's a lot of room to grow. We are still very early in the kind of the stages of development here. So all the help and all the expertise, we can get from an extremely technical and capable of community is super welcome. And so thank you again for all and please don't. There is a path to getting more involved in doing a lot of awesome things here, on a car show with us in the court, the greater team. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much Cool. If there's nothing else. Then again, we can wrap up a little bit early. I know it's been a last meeting was quite long with all the active discussions, and now we're in a busy period with events. Thank you to Amanda in Zach, for all the updates, I gave on the events, hope you both get some rest along with Cheng, and Neil and others. And again, looking forward to a number of states and working groups as we look ahead. And please look to get involved. As have mentioned, as Cheng mentioned, if you need any help or support getting involved again, reach out to a member of the core team or an insider, we'll get you started, but much, appreciate all of you. I hope everyone has a great rest of their day, and I'm will continue to talk online and we'll see you in the middle verse + +Tyler Wright: All right, guys. Bye-bye. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you, Tyler. Bye. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you, everyone. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:33:22 diff --git a/committee-steering/meetings/021-2024-10-31.md b/committee-steering/meetings/021-2024-10-31.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6bebc808 --- /dev/null +++ b/committee-steering/meetings/021-2024-10-31.md @@ -0,0 +1,424 @@ +# Akash Network - Steering Committee - Meeting #21 + +## Agenda +- Address community feedback and grievances. +- Review updates to project boards. +- Share updates on recent and upcoming events. +- Discuss progress on developer onboarding initiatives and YouTube content. +- Provide updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade and related technical developments. +- Review and discuss active governance proposals. +- Open floor for additional topics or feedback. + +## Meeting Details + +- Date: Thursday, October 31st, 2024 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://h5r73bah365pqfr4x62x5sdut5px4wpprsnd6lu2hcej3x42jkxa.arweave.net/P2P9hAffuvgWPL-1fsh0n19-We-Mmj8umjiInd-aSq4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Committee + +- Anil Murty, Overclock Labs +- Artur Troian, Overclock Labs +- Greg Osuri, Overclock Labs +- Scott Caruthers, Overclock Labs + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Adam Wozney +- Amanda Keay +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- Anil Murty +- Artur Troian +- Cheng Wang +- Damir Simpovic +- Ed Prado +- Fico Calderon +- Garrett Minks +- Joao Luna +- Juan Pablo Arce +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodri R +- Scott Carruthers +- Scott Hewitson +- Zach Horn +- Zeke Ezagui + +## Meeting Notes + +### Community Feedback +- Tyler Wright opened the floor for feedback and grievances from the community. +- Participants were reminded to share their input during meetings or reach out to core team members or insiders between sessions. +- Focus on making SIG operations and community contributions more transparent and accessible. + +### Project Boards Review +- Tyler emphasized the importance of the public-facing project boards. +- Boards track initiatives across product engineering and marketing, offering a transparent view of Akash’s ongoing efforts. +- Team members traveling for events have been contributing to updates despite logistical challenges. + +### Event Updates +- Amanda Keay provided updates on recent and upcoming events: + - **Permissionless Conference** in Salt Lake City: + - Akash team had speaking engagements and hosted a successful booth. + - Generated high-quality leads, particularly from AI developers, comparable to engagement levels at Token2049. + - **Cosmoverse in Dubai**: + - Akash led the AI track, hosted an AI-focused afterparty with over 300 attendees, and secured prominent branding. + - Team members participated in panels, discussions, and networking activities. + - **NeurIPS 2024** in Vancouver: + - Plans include a booth, speaking engagements, and workshops at a nearby venue, focusing on Akash's AI positioning. + - Attendees will have access to Akash Compute credits and networking opportunities. + - **ETH Denver 2025** preparations are underway, with plans to continue building Akash’s presence in the Web3 space. + +### Developer Onboarding and YouTube Content +- **Zealy Campaign**: + - Sprint 3 of the second campaign completed, with rewards distribution scheduled. + - A new onboarding process is being developed, focusing on guiding developers through a structured user journey from basic engagement to advanced contributions. + - Best campaign submissions, including guides and designs, will be compiled and shared. +- **YouTube Content**: + - Steering Committee meeting recordings are being prepared for upload. + - Upcoming focus will be on creating technical tutorials for deployments, Akash Console features, and GitHub contributions. + +### Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade and Technical Updates +- Artur Troian provided updates on technical progress: + - The initial testnet for Cosmos SDK 47 is live, focusing on stability before expanding participation. + - Ongoing provider-side enhancements for Akash Console 2.0 include contributions from the community. + - Improvements to inventory exporter functionality were completed with community support. + +### Active Governance Proposals +- **[Rair Protocol Proposal](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/709)**: + - Garrett Minks and Ed Prado presented the integration of Akash as a decentralized compute layer for deploying DApps. + - The goal is to move away from centralized solutions like GCP and offer Web3-native compute options. + - Proposal outlines a phased approach, starting with configuration migration and progressing to full feature parity with GCP-based setups. + - Community members were encouraged to review the proposal and provide feedback on GitHub. +### **[Provider Incentives Pilot 2 (PIP-02)](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/696)** +- Presented by Cheng Wang: + - PIP-02 doubles the funding size from the previous pilot to expand GPU capacity and address rising demand. + - GPU models, including A100s, RTX 4090s, and future-ready 5090s, were detailed in allocation plans. + - Zeke Ezagui raised questions about: + - Flexibility in upgrading to 5090 GPUs when available. Anil clarified that allocations would be reviewed case-by-case to accommodate next-generation hardware while balancing commitments to current GPUs. + - The inclusion process for community providers in the incentive program. Cheng and Anil confirmed a manual vetting process based on outlined criteria, emphasizing fairness and adherence to quality and availability standards. + - The need for clear instructions for community providers to apply. Tyler committed to sharing detailed steps and ensuring community awareness. + - Anil reiterated that existing customer workloads would guide allocation decisions, with options to transition customers to upgraded hardware where feasible. + +### [Governance Proposal Best Practices](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/170) +- Tyler Wright highlighted updates to governance proposal guidelines: + - New guidelines aim to streamline the process for submitting and reviewing proposals. + - Community members were encouraged to refer to these guidelines for leveraging the community pool effectively. + +### Open Floor Discussions +- Tyler encouraged participants to raise any additional topics or questions. +- Updates on SIG meetings and regular working groups were shared, including: + - Zealy meetings, focusing on developer onboarding. + - Akash YouTube working group, prioritizing technical content development. + - SIG chain meetings to discuss the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. + - SIG provider discussions on ongoing efforts related to Akash Console 2.0. + +## Action Items +- Tyler Wright will continue gathering feedback and ensuring transparency in SIG operations. +- Amanda Keay will finalize event plans for NeurIPS 2024 and ETH Denver 2025. +- Robert Del Rey will complete Zealy rewards distribution and redesign the onboarding process for developers. +- Artur Troian will stabilize and expand testnet participation for the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. +- Community members are encouraged to review and provide feedback on the Rair Protocol proposal and vote on PIP-02. +- Governance proposal updates and best practices will be shared to guide the community on effective use of the community pool. +- Announcements regarding SIG working group schedules and opportunities for engagement will be shared via Discord and GitHub. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to the Akash steering committee. It is October 31st, 2024. during these monthly meetings, the steering committee gets together talks about everything that's happened over the course of that month in terms of SIGs, working groups and beyond. we follow a typical agenda which I will move over to now. But again, if anybody has any specific items that they want to discuss as a part of steering committee, again, please drop them in. We usually try to have these things in advance because oftent times we have a full plate of agenda items. But again, if there's anything specific that anybody wants feel free to drop it in here now. All right. Again, you can look at notes from the past meetings here. + +Tyler Wright: notes, transcripts, recordings for all the steering committees since January 2023 are available here. Again, one of the things we start off by doing is reviewing, discussing, and addressing any community feedback, grievances, or conflicts. This could be anything you see in SIG's working group structure. Anything that you think can be improved on, feel free to raise your hand and we can discuss those things right now. Cool. again, if anybody sees anything between meetings, feel free to reach out to myself or any member of the core team, insiders, etc., and we can again continue to u improve the process, make it easier for folks to get involved, etc. All right, continuing one of the big items that we discussed during these, steering committee calls is, the project boards. + +Tyler Wright: again, these are transparent public facing boards that anybody from the community can kind of track what's going on across community marketing initiatives as well as product and engineering. you can see our road map and these items are discussed at steering committee as well as other SIGs and working groups and continually updated by members of the core team and other members of the community that are working on specific efforts. So if you're ever interested in what's on the future of the road map across again product and engineering, again, please look out. This is always constantly being worked on and constantly being updated. I know some members of our community and marketing team have been working hard and have been on the road over the last month. and it's just been again a tireless amount of work that's been done. + +Amanda Keay: + +Tyler Wright: I do want to kick it off by handing it over to Amanda to just talk a little bit about some of the events that have gone on over the last month, including Cosmoverse and others, as well as a look forward to again some of the events that are on the horizon. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah, thanks Tyler. + +Amanda Keay: So about a month ago, I'll start three of us from the core team were able to go to permissionless in Salt Lake City. We had a couple different speaking engagements and an official side event during that week. it went really well. I felt like the conference had a lot of really high quality people that came by, a lot of specifically AI developers that were interested in talking with us. + +Amanda Keay: Zach and I were manning the booth and I think as far as quality leads and the amount of leads, it was up there with the amount total that we got altogether going to token. So, it was a really good success for us there. and then we just a week or so ago got back from Cosmoverse in Dubai. That event was really good. a three-day event. Greg, we actually led the AI track at Cosmoverse. So, we were able to have our branding front and center as well as multiple speaking opportunities by both Greg, Anneil, and Zach. So, that was really awesome. We also hosted a AI afterparty following our AI track day just right next door. we had 300 plus attendees show up. + +Amanda Keay: So we were able to really flex our branding there and just prove that Akos branding is as strong as it is right now. So that was really great. Looking forward to the next month. We don't have any travel per se in November. A few hackathons that we might be visiting this month but then we're really focusing our efforts on Nurups which is in Vancouver this year from the dates November through the 14th. So Akos will be doing a larger booth at the main event as well as Greg got accepted to be a speaker on the main stage and we are planning on doing a social house just right down the road a really cool venue used to be an old bank so we have that space for two days we're going to have some workshops some special speakers we're finalizing that now as well as just a space for people to come and network and talk and if they wanted to hack they can have + + +### 00:05:00 + +Amanda Keay: Akos compute that we're going to give credits for and just kind of build our branding in the more AI space. looking forward to that doing a lot of planning. so that is taking a lot of time right now and I think that will put us through to the end of the year and then already honestly working on ETH Denver events which is in February. So things are moving rather quickly and it's exciting. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, everybody that's been involved in all those events over the last month. And as we look forward, as a reminder again, there's been a lot of discussion in GitHub around Q4 proposal and now there's a vote on chain. So, if you have the ability to vote, please do so. as we continue to again, fine-tune and, continue to build the brand that's already very strong. So, much appreciate everyone's time. Does anyone have any questions for Amanda about anything events related? I know she has to head out very soon to some other obligations. Cool. All right. + +Tyler Wright: we talked about it in again a weekly working group around the website and docs. again there's folks that contribute to console. If you are contributing in any way via the states and working group structure please make your contributions known via comments inside the specific area in which you're again contributing. this helps with transparency and making sure it's easy for folks that are contributing to get rewarded for those contributions. + +Tyler Wright: so again just want to make that u clear to everybody that you can look on this board. again get involved in the signing working groups. We discuss specific issues that need solving inside each of the repos and then again if anybody can get involved in the community we look for those contributions. So thank you to all that are getting involved. I did see that Robert had some items specifically that he wanted to discuss on the community and marketing side. So, Robert, I'll give you the four to quickly talk about Zilly and the Kosh YouTube working group. Yes. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you, Can you guys hear me? All Really cool. so yeah, as you some of you may know, we are leading Pyber and I are leading the Aash dev on boarding campaign on CV. It's a platform that helps us create missions and make it look like a game to engage with a cashache. this is the second three month campaign. So we basically do six months of campaign on silly engaging with more than 2,000 people which is awesome. the spring number three of the second season ended just yesterday. So right now we are just doing the math to determine the amount of rewards that are going to be paid out. We're going to start paying out those rewards on Monday. + +Robert Del Rey: you can also expect our city working group call happens every So on next Monday in our call you can also expect the project status In that report we add information analytics like we add how many people are engaging with the platform and more stuff that we share with the community. So you can see how we are doing and how is Aash benefiting from this. So really cool. it was wild trying to manage this while on the road during Cosmoverse. but we managed to do it. very happy for the support I got from Benji and also more people that engaged with this. We had a really good call on during Cosmover. I actually share the screen. + +Robert Del Rey: Sorry, I share my camera during verse and 20 people joined that city working group call and they were very happy to see our aash booth in Cosmo verse and got really excited. one thing that I can tell you is that yes, the campaigns are done in editing, but we created a document and we compile of the best submissions that we got on Cely from guides and videos to designs all those of the best really really good quality submissions we have them in a document and we're going to share those with you also very soon. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: we will give some extra rewards to those participants going the extra mile. So as for now on November the first two weeks of November only expect the rewards being paid out but no more sprints at the moment. we are actually redesigning the process and we want to make it look more like a user journey like the next phases of cely or whatever tool that we decide to use to do this. + +Robert Del Rey: we want to make it look like a journey where people get to know a cache, they join the social media, read the documentation, they start deploying and doing stuff on a cache and then at the end we show them how to get involved in GitHub like a star when you put a start in one of the repos to get all the updates there's going to be mission about that so people can start the cache GitHub + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: stuff and yeah so yeah it's going to be really nice we're going to go back to the roots of silly on boarding new developers we are very thankful for the people participating every month in the sprints but with this user journey we want to go back to the initial goal of this campaign which was attract new developers to a cache so it's a concept we're still developing it so that's the work we're going to do in the following weeks hopefully and release that to the public in the next two weeks mid November. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: So that on ceiling. Let me know if you guys have any question about it. One, two, three. No, that's okay. you can also drop any questions in the chat or go directly to the city chat for more stuff. in regards to Akash YouTube one or two months ago we started the Aash revamping efforts we believe the Aash branding is super strong and we can complement that having a strong YouTube channel. So I got many insights from the insiders going to Cosmo many cool ideas that I'm drafting in a proposal. + +Robert Del Rey: So in that proposal I'm going to show you the next phases of the Aash YouTube and how we believe we can better use this platform to educate people on a cache just to tell you a little something is that we want to focus on technical videos of a cache how to do deployments the different aspects of the console the cash chat how to contribute on GitHub those things that we say on the calls that we say them right we want to turn + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: those into videos that people can see and actually learn how to get involved and contribute to a cashache. So that's the only thing I wanted to say on YouTube. at the moment we have 20 videos uploaded from the steering committee calls. I'm waiting for approval to go live. That should happen very soon. But after those videos are live, the focus is going to be on creating technical videos about the different aspects of Aash Network. Yeah, that. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: The next YouTube working group call, forgive me Tai, I don't know when it's going to happen. Maybe we can have it on next the 5th, or the following Tuesday. Either way works fine for me. + +Tyler Wright: Robert, for that detailed update across Zeely and the Akash YouTube. Again, there's specific working group for ZLY that meets Mondays as well as the working group around the Akash YouTube which again I will make an announcement and add it to the calendar which everybody can track at network development. So I'll put a link to that in the chat for folks to just track the calendar that can add SIGs and working groups. + +Tyler Wright: to their own calendars and stay up to date on when meetings are across the month. Go ahead, Robert. Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: The third topic I had was an introduction to LATAM nodes. the guys approached me during Cosmo and they told me they have a big data center and they want to talk to the cache team and find the best ways to work together. So I don't know if that can happen by the end of this call after everybody shares their updates but just wanted to give you the heads up about latam notes. Actually, many validators passed by the cash booth saying they have resourc and also inquiring about the foundation delegation program. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: So, I don't know if they're in this call already, but just giving you the heads ups. Fate again. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. I think we can take that conversation outside of the steering committee call just… + +Tyler Wright: because again we can handle that elsewhere but I'll follow up with you and get the necessary folks together to talk about that. Go ahead. Sorry if I'm butchering your name. I don't know if you're trying to speak, but I do want to move on just for the sake of time because I know there's some discussions that we want to get to as well. again, as Amanda alluded to, there's a couple of hackathons on the horizon. for folks that want to get involved or want to learn more, again, there's a SIG community where we talk about everything from events to hackathons to just the Kosh community in general. + +Tyler Wright: So again, this is where these topics are discussed in more depth. and there's more focus discussion from folks that are very passionate about these topics. So again, I don't know if Adam specifically had anything that he wanted to cover. Don't feel obliged, but again, I know that there some recent messaging that went out around the hackathon 3. We just discussed it on a couple of previous calls. but just wanted to call that out here today as another initiative as well as I believe there's a meta hackathon that's going to be going on in Brazil that a clash is going to be supporting and sponsoring in a number of different ways and that's coming up quite soon as well. + +Tyler Wright: I did want to see if there's anything else on this marketing board or anything else that we've discussed in SIGs and working groups that folks want to talk about right now before I quickly jump over to the product and engineering roadmap. Yep, we'll get to the PIP during the discussion portion. Thank you, Zeke, for bringing that up. All right, moving on to the product and engineering roadmap. again, this is another area that gets updated consistently by members of the core engineering, etc. there are various people working on projects across product and engineering side. so again, we look to get updates from folks. + +Tyler Wright: I know one of the bigger things that's been tracked is the upgrade to Cosmos SDK47. Again, we talked about this during the SIG chain. I do want to kick it over to Archer real quick just to talk about where we are. I know that we have an active test net and again some messaging is going to go out to some folks in the community that have showed interest in getting involved in that initial test net. But I just want to see if there's anything at a high level that Archer wanted to discuss around Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade or anything else on the product and engineering roadmap. + +Artur Troian: Thanks, T. I'll try to be quite quick regarding SDK47, yes, we finally started our first test net literally yesterday. there have been couple mishaps that we had with the ramping it up, but they all been sorted and that's pretty much good news. We're going to keep this test net at this moment quite low on participation. Reason being is there are still couple things that are not quite stable and we just want to make sure that we solve all of them first before we allow wider participation from the test net and our hope is that probably in two weeks we should be able to expand participation. + +Artur Troian: then moving on to the provider there have been couple things related to the provider stability things as well as the inventory like issue 259 and the core team which is diligently working to cover all of those issues and keep releasing new features as well as bug fixes. one more thing in sort of more broadband we have finally got our snap food service up and running huge thanks to Zeke for completing that task and it's pretty much done by the community. + +Artur Troian: This is great example of community participation in Akash efforts as well as a little bit of credit goes to Luna for working on our inventory exporter for the Promeigious. I saw first just literally a couple minutes ago and hopefully we're gonna get released it soon. And I think that covered it. Back to you. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Archer. we discussed it in SIG providers yesterday. I know there's been a significant amount of work from the product team around the provider side of Akos console as a part of the console 2.0 effort. so again whether it be the free trials that have come recently, fiat payments, there's just a number of new work coming out of the console 2.0 know efforts and I think there's going to be continued work from some of the efforts from home and HQ and just continuing to again improve on the console experience. So big shout out to the product team for all the work that they've been doing and for the community for continuing testing feedback etc. Just want to see if there was anything else more specifically. Again you can get a demo. + +Tyler Wright: we got a demo on the provider side of the console from Jigger yesterday during SIG providers. The video and the transcript will be available soon. So you can take a look at that. But I just wanted to see if there was anything else specifically on the product and engineering roadmap that anybody wanted to discuss more specifically before we jump into some discussion if not then again we're at the part of the agenda where we will dive into some of the active discussions. again usually we try to carve out some time during the steering committee for discussions that are getting a fair amount of traction. I know there's two discussions that we'll be talking about today. + +Tyler Wright: One is the discussion for rare protocol and aash network full integration and the other discussion that we'll discuss in a little bit more detail is around the provider incentives pilot number two which is currently on chain for vote after again discussion for a number of weeks. I think we'll start off with the rare protocol. and then we'll take a couple of minutes to I know that there's a couple of participants that have taken some time out of their day to join us today. so I want to kick it over to Garrett and Ed from the rare protocol team. Again usually what we do is folks have already read through the discussion in great detail. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Garrett and Ed, if you can give a high level on, rare protocol, the benefits the network and then maybe a followup to any of the open discussions, then we can just spend maybe two to five minutes talking about this discussion and figure out next steps and then from there we can jump into the PIP 02 discussion following that. + +Garrett Minks: Awesome. Thanks,… + +Tyler Wright: With that said, I'll hand it over to Garrett and you can just kick us off. + +Garrett Minks: And thanks so much for having us on. We've really enjoyed getting to know the Akos community and also get our open deployment layer. I would say an MVP version of our stack is already kind of up and operational on the Akos marketplace, which is super cool. and thanks so much to Zeke especially for helping us figure out exactly how to structure the SDL to get all of that working. We have our six core microservices that encapsulate the protocol are now on and kind of an MDP version on the Apache marketplace to deploy which is super cool. + +Garrett Minks: So, as a really high level, I'm the founder of Ver Protocol, also the CTO, and then Ed, who's on the call, is our CEO, and does all of our awesome partnerships and, integrations, all the business side, of the house. So, I can speak, some to the tech side and our, big picture reasoning for really wanting to decentralize the compute, layer of our stack. So we originally started as enterprise SAS dab development software products where kind of doing the same approach as the third webs and the buttons and those kind of companies of the world and through the bare market kind of decided to do this quite interesting pivot to a fully open source deployment layer. So sorry about the airport some nonsense in the background. + +Garrett Minks: so since we've kind of pivoted to open source we've had all sorts of awesome things happen to the project got picked up by quite prestigious ac So part of the Redbeard Ventures token accelerator now and has really helped us grow our dev community. we're about 3,500 devs strong in our GitHub now. And as part of this mission to kind of democratize deploying DAPs more easily and in an open source way, we also want to basically open up the compute layer and kind of get off of GCP. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Garrett Minks: when we originally developed the core software, everything was very much built around a GCP Kubernetes setup and really to scale and to fulfill the mission of having an open deployment layer, we want to have of course the underlying compute, also be open and permissionless. So, that's kind of the big goal behind what we want to do. And then our proposal is basically focusing in the first phase all of the very specific things that we think we can do to make it easier for new developers to pick up our open deployment layer and deploy it onto AOS things like kind of ironing out some of the finer points with SSL kind of see some of the other items and then with the second phase to really figure out how we can make a feature parody version of our deployment layer with all the + +Garrett Minks: scaling features and functionalities that we currently have on GCP. So, that's a high level. I don't know, Ed, if you wanted to say anything. + +Ed Prado: Yeah, I'll just add it's great to be here. We've loved working with you. We've been to several conferences. We're getting a lot of signal on Akos and certainly One of the things that was interesting when we spoke to Chang is that we represent a way to monetize and leverage your plain vanilla compute away from AI, which I think is a really important part of your model. and we also represent, a web three sort of integration and developer group that we can bring in and actually build DAPs. And as we go down this journey, there's going to be more and more integration between AI and web 3. we were just at a conference and tons of people were talking about that. So, we think that the time is right and we think we have the right product, we have the right developers, and we're excited to discuss and see if we can get this done with you guys. So, thank you for your time. + +Tyler Wright: Thank And again, I've dropped in the discussion in the chat for folks. Again, the ask is from the community pool for again their efforts. and so again, you can check out the entire ask and just get more information on the specifics on top of what Garrett and Ed just mentioned. So, is there any specific questions that anybody has at this point while we have few members from the team here live that they want to get answered? Go ahead and kneel. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Hey guys. I'm sorry. I was just actually reviewing the proposal right now as you guys were talking. maybe I'm missing it, but what exactly is the service? If you could just explain it in one sentence or… + +Anil Murty: two sentences. What does the service do? + +Garrett Minks: Sure. + +Garrett Minks: So in a nutshell, the open deployment layer makes it easier for a new developer coming in to deploy a DAP. So instead of starting from scratch, they can start from a 95 99, percent complete DAP. So the full front end, backend, Mongo database, Reddus, all of those microservices that we have in the template that I just dropped into the chat, those are all out of the box working. And then effectively to make the DAP their own, they would go in and switch out a few of the underlying API keys. So we provide a default alchemy key say to do the syncing. they could go in modify the Docker image and then have their own syncing engine. + +Garrett Minks: And importantly, they have their own backends, too. That's something that not a lot of other companies kind of in this similar vertical to ours will open source. third web, things like that. they keep a lot of that stuff closed. so, yeah, in a nutshell, it's a open source deployment layer that makes building new distributed applications easier. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Got it. so I guess I'm a little confused as to why. So the whole idea with console is to be the tool that people use to deploy stuff onto And in the past when we have had people talk about building potential other clients, it's been one of two ways… + + +### 00:30:00 + +Garrett Minks: It wants dark. + +Anil Murty: which is if you have other platforms that are building something for web3 or decentralized applications but trying to compete with something like a versel there's a few projects that have done that. + +Anil Murty: they'll typically integrate Akash as part of their platform and use it purely for infrastructure along with something like Filecoin or something else for storage. and that's typically something that they just do as part of their platform. what I'm not understanding here is why is this a community proposal for Akash specifically and also also just looking at the screen that Tyler is sharing that seems like a really big team for what you're talking about which is a few SDLs I mean we don't have a huge Q automation testing team just so + +Garrett Minks: Sure certainly. So I can speak to kind of So of course our infrastructure is all kind of Docker based already. So the way that we've architected it is a bunch of these containerized microservices just right now we're deploying them largely inside of Google and then our containers are being kind of created and destroyed and the GKE setup. so we have the way that we've constructed our system I think lends itself quite well to how AOS works. It's just that key difference and that key differentiator is, we don't want to have devs to have to pay fiat and use some centralized server that they could get turned off or censored, right? We want to have a native web three compute option for deploying web3 applications. + +Garrett Minks: that's the real impetus for us trying to basically fully decentralize our stack from kind of the top down because I think it kind of doesn't matter if you're using the blockchain and have all these awesome decentralized features in your application if it's ultimately running on a compute layer that is run by Google. so yeah, that's the, high level reason why we want to do it. And then the more sort of brass tax way that we're able to accomplish it is by basically porting over all of our existing config maps like existing manifest files, all that stuff that we've done in Google. + +Garrett Minks: we're basically migrating and moving over and it seems like Jiao asked about the yncing. So we have two ways to do syncing in our system. one is a kind of out of the box solution that uses alchemy largely to do all the RPC type services. We also have a native one where you can pop in your own RPC URLs into the environment variable file of the docker at build time and then basically sync that way and then all of those transactions when they sync will then get stored in the mongo which is another microser that gets deployed nicely when that one SDL is run. + +Garrett Minks: So basically when somebody deploys a DAP with our system they're running their own entire self-s sovereign self-contained DAP infrastructure including the backend in the rare node microser and… + +Tyler Wright: I know we need some time for other discussions. + +Garrett Minks: then their own mongo in that micros service that helps + +Tyler Wright: I would just ask that anybody here today if they haven't already, please feel free to drop comments and discussion. Again, this is how we continue to make sure that the community is as involved with everything that has to do with community pool spend. if anybody has any additional questions, thoughts, concerns, votes of approval, whatever the case may be, ple please drop those in the GitHub discussion. and then we'll continue to again fine-tune and figure out what the next steps are. But very appreciative of Garrett and Ed taking the time out of their day to join us today and safe travels, Garrett, for sure. But thank you very much for taking the time. + +Garrett Minks: Awesome so much. Thanks for having us and I'll hang on for the rest of the call too. + +Tyler Wright: + +Garrett Minks: Okay. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. All right. + +Tyler Wright: Continuing to move along. again, there's a couple of other items that, are on chain. so again, please get involved in some of these discussions. I know that Huey dropped in some, metrics from Q3 events in some of the past quarters. So, please track that. but right now I do want to because I know that folks have been talking about it and want to talk about a little bit more. I do want to kick it over to Chang to talk a little bit more at a high level. I know we've talked about it in previous calls prior to this discussion going up but talk about PIP at the highest level and… + + +### 00:35:00 + +Tyler Wright: then see if there's any questions from anybody here that can be discussed. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you,… + +Cheng Wang: Ty And let me know if Changbot v1.2 is bothering you guys and I'll remove the filter here. so in terms of PIP provider incentives pilot number two, this is the follow on to provider incentives number one, right? the first level of incentives was just for a quick recap in everyone's information was approximately $5 million in size and funded approximately 400 additional GPUs that have all today to this day been added to AOS network. And as far as where we are in the commitment of those funds, initially we started I think the first contract with a provider or two back in March of this year and throughout between March and this point in time we are still in the process of fully deploying All those funds at this point in time have been fully committed. Of course the spend will continue to move forward. + +Cheng Wang: So we're at peak basically GPU capacity from pip 01 chips at this moment in time and pip 02 is a double of that size up to 10 million and there are a lot of community discussion around that particular item in GitHub as well and so currently this I think is already on chain for vote and the idea here if you can scroll down a little bit so those chips up top in the current table that's been displayed right now are the ones that were committed to in PIB01. And in the table a little bit further down, these ones right here are the ones that we're expected to, we're estimated to deploy funds towards for PIP 02. Again, these are, high level est estimates based on the best of our understanding with us and the core team rather in the community at large, And this mix can change a little bit over time, right? So this is the essential makeup here. + +Cheng Wang: the biggest thing I'll say is the idea here is to bring greater numbers of highly sought-after GPUs onto a Kosh network to be able to power larger workloads with larger tenants, right? those are all extremely important especially as some of these things begin to scale. We're already running up against maximum utilization as you guys will see if you go to the stats network today. with trial wallets as well as with credit card payments up online now we're essentially red line on all the high-end GPUs we have and we're at near I think record usage today which is incredible from GPU side of things so if there are any questions please drop them in 810080s of course the most sought actor models there and L40s etc will be kind of the replacement model for the A180s MI300's + +Cheng Wang: and the H200's are the looking forward set of models, right? kind of the newer generation and of course the RTX490 is crowd favorite there as far as inference capabilities go in a distributed fashion. and A6000s which kind of round out the lower end of those particular models to service clients on that side of the spectrum. That's Fire away. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Go ahead, Zeke. + +Zeke Ezagui: + +Zeke Ezagui: So, a couple questions. I'll start out with, it looks like the timeline for this is going to be 6 to9 months. Is there any thought in wanting to do 5090s … + +Cheng Wang: + +Zeke Ezagui: because those are going to release in spring of + +Cheng Wang: That's a great question. + +Cheng Wang: Probably I think just to give you an idea in terms of committing to these ships. So, hypothetically we go out to six, eight different providers and look for these resources. right 4090s we have 204 here kind of roughly allocated. That doesn't mean we'll take down a swad of 204 all at once. It'll probably be done in tan so in that vein, if there's, excess funds and we want to reallocate when the 5090s come out, I'm sure, we'll do so. I currently not envisioned here, but I think we should be flexible over time for But Neil, I was just going to say if you could please take that on, that'd be great. + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: Yeah, and that's a good question, one of the other things to keep in mind here, and Chen, keep me honest on these numbers because we did them a while back. I may be, confusing some of them. the numbers that are on this chart that Tyler is sharing, these include GPUs that are committed currently and GPUs that will be added in the future… + +Cheng Wang: That's + +Anil Murty: because as Chang said, if you go and look at network today pretty much all the GPUs of all the models are being utilized and so our utilization rate is really high. What that means is that there are actual customer workloads running on the GPUs that we have committed contracts to right now. And so what that means then is that as these contracts get to their end, we can't just abandon the existing GPUs that have customer workloads running on them. So we have one of two options. + + +### 00:40:00 + +Anil Murty: we can either work with those existing customers and offer them potentially the next generation GPU and then transition them to these new clusters or we can continue maintaining the existing clusters. So I think we'd have to sort of look at these a little bit on a case by case basis. but your point is completely valid which we have to look at the next generation of GPUs in many of these cases. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you. + +Zeke Ezagui: Yeah, that makes sense. and my next question is there was added after some discussion the 5 to 10% for community members. what's going to be kind of the process on if I'm a community member, how do I go about trying to get, approval or whatever getting some incentives to do so? what's going to be the process for + +Cheng Wang: + +Cheng Wang: I think we'll have to probably iron that out when the time comes. It really depends on I think the parameters that we set or are roughly that of a tier 2 data center requirements, right? So, with that being said, I think as long as the u community provider can uphold these, of course, quality, availability, density, all those requirements, and I think it's really just an open discussion. I don't think there's anything too structured at this point in time. Anal, I hate to hot potato this over to you once again, but I'd figure it seems pretty straightforward, the structure here or the requirements. + +Anil Murty: + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead and + +Cheng Wang: So, I don't imagine there's too much vagaries here to deal with. + +Anil Murty: Yeah,… + +Anil Murty: I think yeah, so I think Tyler is sharing that portion of the screen, Zeke. after some of the feedback from you and other folks that have been really strong providers on the network for a long time, we added those bullet points specifically for trying to outline what would be potentially the criteria for somebody that could be eligible for the community portion of this pool including the percentage allocation to community providers. + +Anil Murty: So, definitely take a look at that if you haven't already and please provide feedback if that sounds good to you. But that's a general idea. and again, this is kind of a precursor to us implementing an onchain mechanism for allocating funds to all community providers and not just a subset of them. + +Zeke Ezagui: Yeah, makes sense. So that just be, a GitHub discussion. + +Zeke Ezagui: That would be messaging someone at the core team. that's kind of what I was talking about. + +Anil Murty: That's correct. + +Anil Murty: Yeah, it'll be pretty manual for now because we just don't have the resources within the core team to go and implement what is needed for us to be able to have onchain incentives and not get into some of the problems that some of the other GPU marketplaces have had with civil attacks and… + +Tyler Wright: Wait, you + +Anil Murty: and spam accounts and things like that. + +Anil Murty: + +Zeke Ezagui: And… + +Zeke Ezagui: if I'm interested, would that just be, sending you or chain a message? Would that be sending Tyler message? Would that be, doing the GitHub discussion? + +Anil Murty: yeah so I think… + +Anil Murty: if there are people that are within the community that meet the requirements of so I guess there's two steps to this right one is the community and people that review this proposal agreeing on the criteria that's outlined in the proposal here specifically the bullet points below the + +Anil Murty: + +Anil Murty: that Tyler is sharing. and then assuming that that is good and this proposal actually passes then the pro process would be if the community provider meets those requirements then the core team being the stewards of driving the provider incentives pilot would ensure that those criteria are met and… + +Anil Murty: then ensure that there is fair allocation of resources across all the providers that meet That criteria. + +Tyler Wright: much appreciate the questions and… + +Tyler Wright: the responses. Again, if anybody has anything that any other questions, thoughts, feel free to drop in the GitHub discussion. I'll follow up with any updates as pertains to just structure. again, as Anil mentioned, it's going to be manual, but we can fine-tune where the best place for people to interact. and I'll make that a bit I'll drop a comment over the next couple of days with how to do that. Again, this is on chain for vote right now. + + +### 00:45:00 + +Tyler Wright: so again please vote if you haven't and again continue to drop in messages in this discussion and we'll continue to track it at sick rs or Any other questions as it pertains to PIP number two? Terrific. I'll also drop in the recording and transcript from this steering committee meeting as a comment as well just so people have it easily Real quick another discussion update that I want to call out Adam with support from other members of the team has updated best practices for governance proposals. + +Tyler Wright: Again, this governance proposal is the best way to get funds from the community pool. Again, the community pool is available to all members of the community and is a great resource to get people building and helping to grow the Akash network through feedback, through the last year plus of seeing things in action. Again, there have been some updates made to the governance proposal guidelines. So, please take a look at those and it'll tell you, how to start off, from an idea to getting a request from the community pool and having conversations with the community. So, again, if anyone has any questions, feel free to drop them as comments, but play please take a look at that discussion around best practices for a kosh governance proposals. All right. + +Tyler Wright: Is there any other discussions that anyone wants to talk about right now? All right. If not, then usually this is a portion where we just open it up for discussion. real quick, I know we only have nine minutes left. I want to be respectful of folks time because I know people take time out of their busy days across both the core team as well as other community members. So is there any other topics that anybody wants to discuss right now? much appreciate rare protocol team for joining us. thank you to Chang and Anneil for fielding questions around PIP02. again please get involved in discussions. + +Tyler Wright: Please stay up todate on all the things that are going on across the Akos community by looking at the project boards. There's a number of ways to contribute if you look at the bounty boards. As you look ahead again, there's a working group for Akos YouTube that will be added to the calendar soon. ZLE meetings every week. there's also going to be, SIG chain where we'll talk a little bit more about the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. again we get updates on all things provider related at sig providers. So there's just a number of meetings that happen throughout the month where you can get involved have very very specific discussions around themes and topics. I know there's a number of folks that are going to get more involved in SIG support. Again support is where issues that are related to the AOS blockchain and just a core codebase go. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: So again, if you want to get involved and contribute there or just learn more about how Akos works, under the hood, please get involved in sick support. Much appreciate everyone's time today. Look out for announcements on discord on social media and again just continue to just reach out and stay involved. But again, much appreciate everyone's time today. + +Tyler Wright: Hope everyone has a great rest of their day and… + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: Tyler. Stay safe, everybody. + +Tyler Wright: a happy Halloween if you Be in the metaverse. + +Zeke Ezagui: Thanks everybody. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you Tyler. 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Analytics Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #15 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Indexer by Maxime Beauchamp +- Community Contributions to Analytics on Akash +- Open Discussion on Indexer Improvements and Analytics Needs +- Scheduling and Future Meetings + +## **Meeting Details** +- Date: Thursday, October 17th, 2024 +- Time: 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://r42dbtac4ccmnthbcyiziw5brtbvhu3bprmx4kbzgimwxti5af3q.arweave.net/jzQwzALghMbM4RYRlFuhjMNT02F8WX4oOTIZa80dAXc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- B S +- Fenil Modi +- Kiryl “mrbro” +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Maxime Cyr + +## Meeting Notes + +### Welcome and Introductions +- Tyler Wright welcomed attendees to the bi-monthly SIG Analytics meeting. +- Emphasized that the meeting is intended to cover analytics updates and community contributions on Akash Network. +- Mentioned that the SIG originally focused on creating an indexer for Akash analytics and continues to evolve in response to community needs. +- Shared that the indexer, initially developed by the Cloudmos team (acquired by OCL), is now open-source and available for community use, with the link shared in the Analytics Discord channel. + +### Updates on Indexer by Maxime Beauchamp +- Maxime Beauchamp provided updates on recent indexer improvements. + - A new pull request is in review, which aims to add endpoints that enhance data retrieval for the provider console. +- Highlighted recent updates allowing more customization on the Akash Network stats page: + - Users can now set custom date ranges on visualizations by adjusting the X-axis, adding flexibility for data analysis. + - These enhancements were implemented by a community member and are part of ongoing community-driven improvements. +- Tyler added that the recent changes were based on suggestions from community feedback, demonstrating active engagement and collaborative progress. + +### Community Contributions to Analytics on Akash +- Tyler Wright acknowledged a community member's contributions to enhancing data display on the Akash stats page. +- Noted that community members are encouraged to share feedback or suggestions related to analytics through the Analytics Discord channel or by creating issues in the website repository. + +### Open Discussion on Indexer Improvements and Analytics Needs +- Tyler opened the floor for additional suggestions or feedback on indexer functionality and the current analytics setup. +- Encouraged members to use the Analytics Discord channel for ongoing discussions between formal meetings, especially for suggestions on unrepresented stats or improvements in data visualization. +- Discussed the decreased need for frequent meetings due to the stability of the indexer but emphasized the importance of occasional check-ins to gather community insights and address emerging needs. + +### Scheduling and Future Meetings +- Tyler suggested postponing the next SIG Analytics meeting until January 2025 unless urgent topics arise, as there are no pressing updates anticipated for December. +- Encouraged participants to engage in other relevant Akash working groups, mentioning upcoming meetings for the Steering Committee, Providers SIG, Docs, and Clients. +- Invited members to reach out via Discord if they have questions or need guidance on analytics or other working groups. + +## Action Items +- Maxime Beauchamp: Finalize and merge the pull request adding new endpoints for provider console data retrieval. +- Community Members: Continue providing feedback on the analytics page via the Discord channel or the website repository. +- Tyler Wright: Update the community on the tentative scheduling of the next SIG Analytics meeting in January 2025, ensuring members are aware of other engagement opportunities within Akash working groups. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All Welcome everybody to Monthly meeting. During this special interest group for analytics. This group has historically been focused on things related to analytics on Akash as well as again. This specialist group came out of efforts to build an indexer as we've discussed at previous meetings. Cloud most team which was required by OCL. I think over a year ago at this point had built an index. So now that indexer again is open source, I've attached a link to it inside analytics discord channel. Just so folks have easy access to it. + +Tyler Wright: During these meetings, we get a quick update from the maxes on anything that's been going on related to the indexer over the last couple of months. Again, this is a meeting that meets every other month. Frankly, this is since the indexer has come into existence, folks used to discord, channel, to ask any questions, talk about any stats, or any information that they're looking for at the indexer. and this thing is historically, been quite straight to the point and everyone seems to agree. So the cadence to meet was changed from monthly to every other month. And over time, we might see how that continues to play out Before I handed over to the Maxis to talk about any recent updates of the index, I do want to see if there's anybody else that has any agenda items that they want to discuss here today. + +Tyler Wright: All right, I know since we last met, there's been some work happening around some of the stats being displayed on the cache network website, as well as just some back and changes. So be your maxi, I just didn't know if you had any updates that you wanted to provide on the index over the last couple of months or anything that you're thinking about that, you maybe want to share with the group. Or those that are listening later. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Much has been done from the indexer perspective. There's currently a PR then but by Maxi, that is the upper review to add some new endpoints APN points that will fetch and more data or the provider console. And I think that's pretty much it for her analytics. That regard the past month. + +Tyler Wright: I know that again. I think some people could contributed to some stat page updates and how information is displayed from the indexer. So I think thats also been a change. I think it was a change. I would suggested by a member of the community and changed by that same member of the community. So Again, if anybody's looking for… + +Maxime Beauchamp: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: where to find, you can always go to stats at a cost.network and see some of the visualizations from the indexer. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Yeah, it was actually a community member that did a PIs you update the child's on stats that I got a network. and previously we couldn't do custom range or date range. Now we can just By dragging the is the X-axis or both X's. You can customize the range. Of data. You want to see? Yeah, pretty cool. + +Tyler Wright: Again, if anybody has any other items that they wanted, suggestions or any other recommendations that there relates to stats page, how things are visualized or just the indexer in general. Again, we used to analytics discord channel as a place to talk about this, as well as the number of other channels and discord and then again people can make issues inside the website repo Talk to again the Max's about any questions related to the indexer and then continue to improve both how stats look and maybe if there's any stats that aren't being represented that somebody's looking for we discuss that in the analytics discord channel as well. + +Tyler Wright: Just tracking some again to some additional items at our last meeting. Again, we got some updates from the maxes on some of the changes that have been made to the Again that last meeting was August 15th. a couple of action items that I had were again continuing to get folks to get involved in this SIG again. I know that the indexer there isn't as much need for constant discussion. I think prior to the indexer being open source, there was a great deal of participation here, but now that the index is here working properly and, folks get quick responses and various channels from the Max's. I think there's less + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Conversation to be had at this specific Sig. Does anyone have anything else? They specifically want to talk about analytics related? + +Tyler Wright: Okay, if not then I would encourage folks. Again, I've dropped in Information related to the indexer maxi dropped in some pulls that are being worked on if anybody wants to get involved again, analytics discord channel as a place to get started. If anyone has any about structure about how decisions were made, etc? Again, feel free to use again, analytics channel in between these meetings, to have to continue conversations. I do appreciate Max B giving us a quick update on all the things that I've been happening over the last month. I know that the maxes are working a great deal on Console 2.0 and some of the work around there. So again, with the indexer and a really good place, it's really about just doing some slight maintenance. And again, continuing to improve as members of the community, provide feedback, thoughts, etc. + +Tyler Wright: If nobody has anything that they want to talk about, then I can certainly let y'all go a bit early again, Max, thank you for the quick update. I believe that we may just push this. The next meeting is supposed to be December. We may just push that to the New Year. Unless anybody has any specific items that come up between meetings? The next couple of months that needs to be talked about live? Again, I may just push up the next again. Analytics meeting to the New Year. + +Tyler Wright: feel free to get involved in a number of other states and working groups. There's a steering committee happening in two weeks. Next week, We have providers SIG docs, which is a monthly meeting as well and then Clients will be happening in November. So again, please look to get involved in a number of the special interest groups and working groups or just get involved in discord. Ask a number of questions and if you need anything for me, feel free to reach out to me and I can help you direct you to folks that you need to get in contact with. Again, much appreciated, everyone's time today. Thank you for the updates. We'll continue to talk everything indexer the analytics discord channel, but I hope everyone has a great rest of your day. Thank you all again. Talk to you soon. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, Tyler. The + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:08:45 👋 + diff --git a/sig-chain/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md b/sig-chain/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b4890828 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-chain/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +# Akash Network - Chain Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #20 + +## Agenda +- Akash network updates and validator relations +- Network upgrade: Cosmos SDK 47 and testing +- Validator expansion and token distribution discussion +- Community involvement and foundation delegations + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://z6a66fr3xktpajzb5upa5vnaxjls3e4skjeyhce46ctxuhk4fzja.arweave.net/z4HvFju6pvAnIe0eDtWgulctk5JSSYOInPCneh1cLlI) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Artur Troian +- Dominikus Brian +- Scott Carruthers +- Hiroyuki Kumazawa +- B S +- Daniel Ishaya +- M R +- Rodri R + +## Meeting Notes + +### Akash Network Updates +- Tyler Wright opened the meeting, discussing the role of SIG Chain meetings in addressing Akash Network blockchain topics, particularly validator relations, network upgrades, and overall health. +- Highlighted recent async discussions in lieu of last week’s meeting to accommodate the heavy workload of the Overclock Labs Core Team. + +### Cosmos SDK 47 Network Upgrade +- Tyler shared that the focus of recent efforts has been the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade, a significant project led by Artur and the engineering team. +- Artur provided a comprehensive update on the SDK 47 upgrade: + - **Testing Approach:** Localized testing using snapshots from the mainnet for migration validation. + - **Challenges:** High memory requirements, with upgrade processes needing over 384GB of RAM to run reliably. This memory demand has presented logistical issues in setting up sufficient test environments. + - **Progress:** Artur shared confidence that testing could yield reproducible results soon, with hopes to proceed by week’s end. +- Artur also noted that this upgrade process has unblocked other network functionalities like basic blockchain interactions, state synchronization, and deployment creation. + +### Validator Expansion and Token Distribution +- Dominikus raised questions on validator expansion, referring to Akash’s Tokenomics document that suggests gradual increases in validator numbers. +- Artur responded that further validator increases could strain network performance due to latency issues, especially during periods of high transaction volume. + - Emphasized the need for decentralizing token distribution among validators, though the current validator cap is considered sufficient. + - Highlighted that anyone can create a validator, but they must secure adequate delegations to enter the active set. +- Tyler added that foundation delegations now require higher standards, including infrastructure robustness and technical capability. + - Noted that as the network matures, foundation delegations are increasingly awarded to participants showing sustained, meaningful contributions to the Akash ecosystem. + +### Community Involvement and Next Steps +- Tyler discussed the ongoing community testing initiatives, encouraging volunteers to assist with SDK 47 upgrade testing. + - Mentioned that additional channels or Discord updates would provide information for interested community testers. + - Urged community members to reach out if interested in joining the testing efforts and to stay active on SIG Chain’s Discord channel for updates. +- Tyler concluded the meeting by reiterating the importance of community engagement in validator roles and thanked participants for their time and contributions. + +## Action Items +- **Artur Troian:** Complete initial reproducible testing for the SDK 47 upgrade by the end of the week. +- **Scott Carruthers:** Continue developing the testing plan for network upgrades and coordinate with volunteer testers. +- **Tyler Wright:** Maintain updates on testing progress and share announcements on the SIG Chain Discord channel. +- **Community Members:** Reach out via SIG Chain Discord to join testing efforts for the network upgrade. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG Chain monthly meeting today is October 8th. 2024 during the Special Interest group for the chain, This group comes together to talk about everything related to the Akash network BLOCKCHAIN. That includes validators relations network upgrades. And just the general health of the chain, + +Tyler Wright: This meeting is led by members of the Overclock Labs Core Team who is built and maintains the Akash network. Usually we talked about again network upgrade related items this month especially and for the past few months we've been talking about the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade which is a massive undertaking led by our turn other members of the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: I know last week we talked async and did not meet because there's just a number of heads down efforts going on again. There was proposal, let's put on chain to support all the work that turn. The rest of team have been doing that proposal pass on chain. And I know that we're getting closer and closer to testing and then potential network upgrade after against some initial internal testing some client testing and then beyond With that said, I will hand it over to Archer to talk about any updates or anything specifically, he wanted to talk about related to the Akash Blockchain. + +Artur Troian: Thanks a Good morning, everyone. it's been quite a while. We can get an update on the Sdk47 and This sort of Could freeze. For the actual upgrade parts, a couple weeks ago and things don't quite well. We've been usually testing it locally just as a reminder, the way we do it is we take a snapshot from current We do think Old Test 95. That allows us to export. and Manet state into the Genesis are also validators set for test purposes and then just use that Genesis as the seed to the desktop and they're just make sure that all of the + +Artur Troian: API changes and the migrations for working correctly. So the SDK 50 actually has the test notification done in place, but as we are trying to own different fight, there's no way. We can reuse that, also our test infrastructure and all of the environment is built using our approach, and I think we're gonna continue using it for the next to disable future. Anyways, one of the challenges that we have is because of some great is so massive. a one node during the upgrade phase must have seen in 70 gigabytes of RAM. So, To do Testing, you obviously need at least two preferably Make sure that the consensus is not broken so that just might multiply memory by three with safety margin. + +Artur Troian: And you can see easily that really for the single tasks. It takes 384 too much 400 wives of RAM that. And You can easily get this machines distributed, but once again, you're random locally, we're trying to run them In the same machine you like local container or just wider to capture walks and make sure that everything is doing. All right there and that was sort of really challenging for us to get those machines. But I think we sorted the swings out and have environments at this stage. So as soon as I have confidence, that environment is producing reproducible results for the testing. You're just gonna cost understand diet and far up. I do hope that we do it this week. + +Artur Troian: But it doesn't necessarily mean that all other work is done. Especially the provider part but that will unblock Everybody and start testing, just basic blockchain, things related to stay in top and sending deployment creation and so forth. Scott is working on the tests, sort of less plan on how things should be done, and you'll be communicating quite shortly. And I think that pretty much summarizes it, any questions. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Artur Troian: Right about you. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate that. Artur again, as Artur just stated, once the initial notify tests are passing. That'll unblock a number of other efforts, including documentation around some of the testing that will get done by, members of the sh Validation etc that have already volunteered their time and efforts to support some initial testing. So again, the idea to test everything across the network state game, just basic deployments etc, to make sure that everything is kind of working as planned, and As desired. I did want to see if anybody had any questions as pertains to next steps. For the network upgrade. + +Tyler Wright: Again, you can kind of track all it's going on inside Github, both inside the projects and then elsewhere. I know the work is again open source, and public Artur continues to work on it. So, does anyone have any questions related to the Cosmos S 47 upgrade. + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any questions or any topics that they wanted to discuss related to just the cash blockchain in general? Validators etc, that they wanted to bring up at this time? Go ahead, tell me. + +Dominikus Brian: Yeah. Hi guys. I will have this little questions The numbers of validators. So I have been revisiting sort of the akas. Paper on the Tokenomics. And it says that the number of delegators and delegations and also validators in general going to increase over time. So we have increased so from 80 something to 100 in recently how this gonna go going forward, how fast that they increase going to happen. + +Artur Troian: I know, so I don't think in general, the increase in the validators. Means to pursue some sort of effort and one of them was to sort of the centralized all of the tokens, right? The issue is we see in this stage, even they use the hundred qualitators, Second distribution is not sort of spread enough to fulfill those Unreadators and Keep in mind that increasing amount of validators has consequences, And one of them is increased latency, especially when I'm usually a huge models transactions and that just can imply on the health of the network. + +Artur Troian: So to be frank with you, I'm yet to see the need to increase the gap. And if there's somebody else needs to become a validator, definitely writer was so far, 200 or 2,000 token state doesn't benefit natural or community as a thing, right? So I would say. There should be quite just 12 reason to input to increase the gap and I believe many networks, including Cosmos. + +Artur Troian: Osmosis I believe they had a little concerns about resin up the limit. Just simply because of the performance construction. But do you have any particular reasons in mind? + +Dominikus Brian: Yeah, because there is guys interested in, becoming file data and they're thinking about if it's possible for them to spin off, too. Actually a cusvale, daters could be independent team. but sort… + +Artur Troian: The … + +Dominikus Brian: instead of one the sort of thinking, too, + +Artur Troian: there is nothing preventing them from spinning, the validator, It's the question is they need to get delegations? And I don't see. + +Dominikus Brian: Yes, that's fine. + +Artur Troian: Yeah, and I don't think, they have to find a way to get a delegations. And being validator is just not only working getting the money. This is the question is either trust for the can I take my tokens there and so forth? And once again there's a huge concern from the development perspective and respect about performance and we've seen + + +### 00:10:00 + +Artur Troian: This is a 25% of existing active set the knowledge show on time for the network of gray and it really gives Susan Burden for entire team to reach out and building them doing them, great times. And it's gonna be just worse. And if you increase the amount threshold on that Tuesday, actually data. But once again, everybody can create a holiday, it's not + +Artur Troian: It's not the creation of the validator is limited in just the amount of interactive style that. So if they create every data and they get an obligations by themselves to at least start or some like a set of mentioned, there is the foundation, delegation they do, something you do for community, they can get delegations as well, so that can help. But just too much to summarize my point. It's not just feasible this moment to do that. + +Dominikus Brian: Okay, great, thank you. ideally proactive and then supportive kind of Played data set, maybe also delegated delegations will be more of interest if they are invested in a long term and active toward contribution. Okay. + +Tyler Wright: yeah, I'll just add + +Tyler Wright: As I participated in the program and help create the framework. Again, if you look at the discussion that I've attached in the Chat, for foundation delegations. the core is looking for folks that are, interested in kind of smaller Drips, there are requirements for receiving foundation delegations, and the idea is that you are contributing something meaningful and long-term to the akash network projects. So I think in the past especially when the network was very new up time and voting was, the criteria think. Now there's so much interest from so many teams and individuals that are looking to validate on their cost network that the criteria for receiving foundation delegations that's just gone up. There's just more And as Artur + +Tyler Wright: And we are interested in folks with the proper infrastructure and the technical capabilities and those are hands-on. Because again in historically there have been a couple of folks in the active set that have not been as technical or hands on So as a network continues to mature again, the validating set values that will continue to mature. I don't know if it necessarily needs to grow but it's Artur mentioned. Anybody can set up a validator on Akash it's just about having the proper amount of tokens to get into the active set which is at a hundred right now and I don't think there's any plan. To increase that anytime soon. + +Tyler Wright: Any other topics related to their cost blockchain network, upgrades or validators that anybody wants to discuss right now. + +Tyler Wright: All again, anticipate hearing from members of the core team sometime soon, on initial testing cases, I know there's some people on this call and in the community, what are going to be listening to this call later that have already again volunteered? Their time to help those people will be called upon when it's time to do some initial testing. So, look out for announcements there, we may have a couple of improv who meetings or Howard or set up a channel for those are testing. So again, just look out for some more information discord. If you want to get involved and have them reached out yet, please reach out to myself or another member of the core team. And we'll point you in the right direction just announce yourself in SIG, Chain Discord, channel. + +Tyler Wright: For Appreciate the update from Archer much appreciate the conversation again, we will be working together. I'm sure soon on all things related to sick chain over the next couple of weeks especially in testing and then there will be updates on when a network upgrade is scheduled and we'll make sure all validators and all folks in the community are aware of that. But again, appreciate everyone time today. I hope everyone has a great rest of your day and we'll talk online soon. I'm sure. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + +Artur Troian: Thanks everyone. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:20:09 👋 + diff --git a/sig-clients/README.md b/sig-clients/README.md index fd661f9a..a3352a5b 100644 --- a/sig-clients/README.md +++ b/sig-clients/README.md @@ -49,9 +49,8 @@ The goal of this SIG is to foster a community around each of these clients that | #15| April 24th, 2024 09:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/015-2024-04-24.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/015-2024-04-24.md#transcript) |[Link](https://j3gehsinfdsmtozvozl7ne3dv2w255mnewbmwe3unblpiayao3ya.arweave.net/TsxDyQ0o5Mm7NXZX9pNjrq2u9Y0lgssTdGhW9AMAdvA) | #16| June 25th, 2024 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/016-2024-06-25.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/016-2024-06-25.md#transcript) |[Link](https://g4sync4igp5y56x5cxfhh45vo4elgdzmcptwja4z33gcjhzkkoqq.arweave.net/NyWGi4gz-476_RXKc_O1dwizDywT52SDmd7MJJ8qU6E) | #17| August 20th, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/017-2024-08-20.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/017-2024-08-20.md#transcript) |[Link](https://4mgemilgnadqtihidt2lpu7ocnkirkq4voj2pabf64hw5zdlqh3a.arweave.net/4wxGIWZoBwmg6Bz0t9PuE1SIqhyrk6eAJfcPbuRrgfY) -| #18| October 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #19| December, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | -| #20| January, 2025 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #18| November 13th, 2024 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md#transcript) |[Link](https://blzzgvq7wf74w6qjclppk66qbckfe7xzngfnrlozgwkdguub7u5q.arweave.net/CvOTVh-xf8t6CRLe9XvQCJRSfvlpitit2TWUM1KB_Ts) +| #19| January, 2025 10:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | ## Leadership diff --git a/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md b/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..b4d05880 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-clients/meetings/018-2024-11-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,127 @@ +# Akash Network - Clients Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #18 + +## Agenda +- Updates from the Akash Console Product Team. +- Discussion on recent features and enhancements. +- Updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade and its impact on clients. +- Open floor for questions, discussions, and updates from other teams. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://blzzgvq7wf74w6qjclppk66qbckfe7xzngfnrlozgwkdguub7u5q.arweave.net/CvOTVh-xf8t6CRLe9XvQCJRSfvlpitit2TWUM1KB_Ts) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Denis Lelic +- Anil Murty +- Jigar Patel +- Joao Luna +- Benjamin Aguirre +- Rodri R +- M R +- B S +- Maxime Cyr + +## Meeting Notes + +### Opening Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** welcomed participants and provided an overview of the SIG Clients meeting. + - Highlighted the bimonthly cadence of the meeting due to limited availability. + - Aimed to facilitate discussions on pain points, blockers, and updates for teams leveraging Akash APIs and related integrations. + - Mentioned this was the last SIG Clients meeting of 2024. + +### Akash Console Updates +- **Maxime Beauchamp** presented recent updates and features for the Akash Console: + - Introduced fiat and credit card payment support, enabling users to deploy on Akash using credits purchased with credit cards. + - Revamped the deployment page for ease of use. + - Implemented a free trial system offering $10 credits without requiring an account, enhancing user accessibility. + - Launched a feature for automated deployments linked to repositories (e.g., GitHub, GitLab, Bitbucket). + - This feature allows automatic deployment updates upon changes to the specified branch. + - Released the Cosmos MetaMask snap wallet integration, enabling AKT support via MetaMask. + - Stabilized free trial support to prevent abuse and misuse. + - Significant improvements were made to streamline backend operations and support higher console usage. + +### Cosmos SDK 47 Upgrade +- **Tyler Wright** discussed the upcoming Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade: + - A testnet is in phase one, with core engineering and community members testing CLI functionalities. + - Phase two will include a sandbox environment for developers to test integrations and make adjustments. + - Documentation and further announcements will be provided via Discord and SIG Clients channels. + +### Open Discussions +- Participants were invited to ask questions and discuss issues related to Akash API, AkashJS, and integration solutions. +- No additional updates or discussions were raised during the open floor session. + +### Closing Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** thanked the Akash Console team for their work and the attendees for their participation. +- Encouraged developers to follow updates and announcements in Discord and SIG channels. +- Concluded with best wishes for the year-end and an invitation to future SIG meetings in 2025. + +## Action Items +- **Community Members:** Test new Akash Console features and provide feedback via the SIG Clients channel. +- Monitor Discord and other communication channels for updates on the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade. +- **Akash Console Team:** Continue improving features and address issues reported in the Console repo. +- **Participants:** Share ongoing projects and integrations in future SIG meetings for collaboration and feedback. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG clients. This is a bimonthly meeting. + +Tyler Wright: During this special interest group for clients on members of the community and teams that are building clients on a Akash come together to talk about any blockers, pain points, issues etc. This has typically been a monthly meeting but as of the last six months with a number of teams building various solutions on top of Akos and limited availability where this meeting really ultimately ended up with a number of people saying that they were going to join but ultimately that Kosh console team is one of the only teams that would consistently join. We change the cadence to every other month. + +Tyler Wright: Again, this is a meeting for folks that are building easier ways to deploy onto the Akos network. this is for folks that are leveraging the AOSH API or AOSJS or any other integrations to again come together about core code, talk about any pain points etc. We oftent times get updates from the Akash console product team at Overclock Labs about a number of things that they've been working on over the last month or two. again this is the last TIG client's meeting of 2024. there is a number of things that are being worked on by the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: you can find those items on GitHub in the projects area. There is a road map for again product and engineering where you can track some of the items that are on being worked in progress right now in testing and on the road map for the future. Again, I know that the members of the Overclock Labs core team are continuing to update the road map and add a number of items based upon priority and importance as we continue to end the year and move into 2025. I know there are a number of teams that have reached out to me publicly and privately that are building integrations and clients and ways to deploy onto the Kasha network. + +Tyler Wright: I think some folks said that they won't be able to make it today. Some folks are going to be ready to go live in the next month or two. so, again, I'm trying to stress those teams to at least join these meetings to give a demo of, their applications in d. Without further ado, unless anybody has any agenda items, I want to hand it over to Max B who usually leads us through just updates on the console team. I also brought in Dennis who leads design on many of the project products as well as marketing, branding, etc. because I know there's just been a number of updates over the last couple of months on the console side. + +Tyler Wright: At our last SIG providers meeting, the Ptor team gave an update on all things related to the Akos provider on the console. This is something that's a part of the console 2.0 effort that also gets discussed during SIG clients. But again, I just want to see if there's any I'll hand it over to Max B and potentially Dennis to talk about what's been going on on the Kosh console front. see if there's any questions on anything related to API, AOSJS, or if there's any other teams on the call that maybe want to talk about potential solutions. the max speed. Feel free to take it + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, There has been a lot of updates definitely in the past two months for console. I'm gonna share my screen so it's easier for everyone to So yeah, the main update in the past two months is definitely fiat payments or credit card payments. So yeah, now users can deploy on a cash using their credit card so they use their credit card to buy credit on console and use those credits to pay for deployments. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So just a quick little demo and yeah at the same time this page for new deployments has been revamped and one of the new features that has been released last week this week and also yeah this is a new thing as well because we're getting spammed by a lot of new accounts for this and u so yeah you can create deployment without signing a transaction or using your own wallet which is a very innovative and game changer for a cash. We've had a record breaking usage through console in the past month because of that. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Maxime Beauchamp: and yeah right now I'm using my own account and I already added my credit card but normally there's a free trial that we implemented which makes it possible for users to use a cash without even creating an account. You can just click on start trial you get $10 of free credits so you can try a cash out without any commitment. and also one of the newest feature as well that was released this week it was done by a community member slash team called human hq. + +Maxime Beauchamp: they've been doing a lot of great work on the website and console and we released that this week which is basically a versol deployment experience. So you can connect your repo or access deploy any repo by just putting up the URL or connect your GitHub bit bucket or GitLab whatever repo and it'll just fetch the repo and deploy it automatically and also update itself when you commit on the main branch or whatever branch you specify. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So this is one of the core features that is part of the console 2.0 project which is available or you can see it on the GitHub project board where we keep track of all the tasks related to that. That was one of the big biggest feature that we wanted to release for console 2.0 know and so yeah you can try it out give us your feedback on it works pretty well not going to go into too indepth demo as of now but wanted to mention it we also added the Cosmos Metallask extension snap wallet so you can connect + +Maxime Beauchamp: your MetaMask wallet which contains a AK support through MetaMask snaps which was done by one of the community members in the past year or so and it was finally released in the past two months. what else? I think this is mostly We done a ton of work behind the scenes for free trial support because it does attract a lot of abuse and people trying to game it. But now we stabilized it and it's a very good thing for a cashache. + +Maxime Beauchamp: So yeah, that's basically it. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Max, for going through a number of new features that you and the rest of the team have been working on for some time. I know again wider announcements are going to be going out in the future. but again, if anybody wants to test some of these features that hasn't already tested some of these features, again, feel free to reach out inside the SIG clients channel. But major shout out to all the work from again the product team across a kosh console. Again we'll save any conversation related to the provider side of console for sig providers but I know anal has talked about the console 2.0 plan in general during these SIG clients meetings and that plan is in full motion. + +Tyler Wright: Again, you can look at the product and engineering roadmap to see where things are. But I know both on the deployment side and on the provider side, there've just been a number of updates over the last couple of months and a lot of improvements and continued improvements. Just as a reminder if anybody has any issues that they see related to the Kosh console again inside the console repo there is an area for issues and people can open up any issues. again Max and the rest of the team do a good job of responding to comments or responding to issues and again we talked about it async and s support as well. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Any questions on anything Akos console related and the update from Max and the rest of the team again I know there's some other teams either here or that are going to be listening to this call later that are building solutions on top of the Akos network leveraging the AOS API and AOSJS. I just wanted to see if there was any questions that anybody wanted to talk about live as it pertains to the Akash API, AOSJS or any other forms for integrating with the AOS network. Cool. + +Tyler Wright: One thing that we've also talked about during the steering committee as well as SIG chain which we'll talk about next week in a little bit more detail is around the upgrade. Again, the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade will affect clients. So there is a test net that is in phase one right now with members of the community as well as members of the core engineering team that are working on just again all the actions and functionality of the CLI postcosmos SDK 47. so again there's a test net active right now that's being worked on. + +Tyler Wright: Once that phase one is complete, then folks that are building clients are leveraging the API integrations, there will be a sandbox test environment on those teams to see the updates to the Cosmos SDK47 and make any necessary changes. There will be documentation available too. So again, please look out for announcements across Discord, SIG clients, or just various other channels for next steps there. But just again that's coming out in the next couple of weeks leading up to the new year. So just keep your eyes peeled for announcements there if you're building an integration onto the Kosh network and leveraging again the API or JS. + +Tyler Wright: I did want to see if there's anybody else that wanted to talk about anything related to clients. Cool. If not then again you all can have some time back. Again much appreciate everyone joining the last sick clients meeting of 2024. Again between meetings there will be some updates in terms of Cosmos SDK47. So if you are building an integration, just look out for announcements in Discord and other channels. again big round of applause all the work that the Clash Console team has been doing. so again please look out for continued updates on that clash console side. If anybody has any questions or comments feel free to drop them in SIG clients channel. And then again I hope everyone has a great rest of the month and year on the client side. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: But there's a number of other ways to get involved with So feel free to join another SIGER working group. but again, thank you Max for the updates. Thank you everyone for your participation today and this year. And I'll see you all on the client side in 2025. + +Maxime Beauchamp: Thanks, Tyler. And thanks + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate you all. + +Rodri R: to you both. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you all. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:14:40 👋 diff --git a/sig-community/README.md b/sig-community/README.md index 202600a7..36c7c91c 100644 --- a/sig-community/README.md +++ b/sig-community/README.md @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ This SIG (Special Interest Group) is designed for Akash community members to pro | #7 | Tuesday, August 08, 2023 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/007-2023-08-08.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/007-2023-08-08.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://7zxtouwijc7m4syzoixc4ncvcas5hvm46mka44lzxyyr63zi3f6q.arweave.net/_m83UshIvs5LGXIuLjRVECXT1ZzzFA5xeb4xH28o2X0) | #8| Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/008-2023-10-10.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/008-2023-10-10.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://kmbia36nv7zwt7js6cprsuwqgor6bs5wsk3io4h7eswdwldv244q.arweave.net/UwKAb82v82n9MvCfGVLQM6Pgy7aStodw_ySsOyx11zk) | #9| Tuesday, November 11, 2023 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/009-2023-11-15.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/009-2023-11-15.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://elrhjnozov4zcwv4mcpc7n4za4nyuxelufxrk56hniqprbk3bmka.arweave.net/IuJ0tdl1eZFavGCeL7eZBxuKXIuhbxV3x2og-IVbCxQ) -| #10| Tuesday, December 12, 2023 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | Coming Soon | Coming Soon | Coming Soon +| #10| Tuesday, December 12, 2023 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://xnsr63vwmgfobgaw47idb3zgimmhbtxdcpftyjbp6vwpeyle5d3a.arweave.net/u2UfbrZhiuCYFufQMO8mQxhwzuMTyzwkL_Vs8mFk6PY) | #11| Tuesday, January 09, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | Coming Soon | Coming Soon| Coming Soon | #12| Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/012-2024-02-13.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/012-2024-02-13.md#Transcript) | Coming Soon | #13| March, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | Coming Soon |Coming Soon |Coming Soon @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ This SIG (Special Interest Group) is designed for Akash community members to pro | #17| July 09, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/017-2024-07-09.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/017-2024-07-09.md#Transcript) |[Link](https://x6pq6krlnowidy2qpsxdgyrnx7gz5i4ypuxxeemqsynsvipvhoaa.arweave.net/v58PKitrrIHjUHyuM2Itv82eo5h9L3IRkJYbKqH1O4A) | #18| August 14, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/018-2024-08-14.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/018-2024-08-14.md#Transcript) | Coming Soon | #19| September 10, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/019-2024-09-10.md) |[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/019-2024-09-10.md#Transcript) | [Link](https://7m4voozzewq7nnzhoteyc7zbeuvc72pb2fpou57f72etmypu7ulq.arweave.net/-zlXOzklofa3J3TJgX8hJSov6eHRXup35f6JNmH0_Rc) -| #20| October 08, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | +| #20| October 08, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/sig-community/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md#Transcript) |[Link](https://7hbbbiaiqssx7redpnzevdfif3smtvixbsd6uahwjtqugqcndxia.arweave.net/-cIQoAiEpX_Eg3tySoyoLuTJ1RcMh-oA9kzhQ0BNHdA) | #21| November, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | | #22| December, 2024 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | | #23| January, 2025 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | | | diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md b/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..e22e0958 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/010-2023-12-12.md @@ -0,0 +1,244 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #10 + +## Agenda +- Overview of current year activities and achievements +- Updates on upcoming events for early next year +- Discussion on the Akash Hackathon working group +- Governance proposal updates +- Akash EDU platform and curriculum progress +- Zealy platform engagement and updates +- Community project SDXL on Akash Network +- Open floor for additional questions or feedback + + +## Participants +- Adam Wozney +- Alani Kuye +- Erin Rivas +- Robert Del Rey +- Rodrigo Rochin +- Scott Hewitson +- Zach Ross + + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2023 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://xnsr63vwmgfobgaw47idb3zgimmhbtxdcpftyjbp6vwpeyle5d3a.arweave.net/u2UfbrZhiuCYFufQMO8mQxhwzuMTyzwkL_Vs8mFk6PY) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Meeting Notes + +### Opening Remarks +- Adam Wozney thanked attendees, noting that this is the last Community SIG call of the year. +- Brief reflection on the SIG and working group structure adopted this year, noting its success. +- Adam mentioned expectations for increased attendance in community calls after the new year due to holiday break. + +### Event Updates +- **EthDenver (February)**: Akash will sponsor and have a booth; selected Akash Insiders will assist with booth management. This event is a significant Ethereum-focused conference in the U.S., attracting around 15,000 attendees. + - **Cosmos Meetup**: Potential half-day or full-day event for Cosmos projects, allowing networking among various Cosmos ecosystems like Osmosis and Secret Network. +- **NVIDIA GTC**: High sponsorship costs precluded Akash’s official sponsorship, but selected insiders and community members will attend with a private, invite-only dinner. +- **KubeCon EU**: Scheduled sponsorship includes a booth; three Akash Insiders will represent Akash. Focus is on connecting with the KubeCon community and understanding further engagement opportunities. +- **Consensus (Q2)**: Akash aims to participate with AI-focused sessions, aligning with current AI developments in crypto. Additional details are pending budget approvals. + +### Akash Hackathon Working Group +- Formation of the working group to plan three proposed hackathons for the coming year. + - **Roles Needed**: Marketing Manager, Community Manager, and Event Manager. + - Each role has responsibilities for sponsorships, community support, and event logistics. +- Hackathon framework posted on GitHub for community feedback, with the proposal up for a governance vote soon. + +### Governance Proposal Updates +- **Community Support Proposal**: Focus on funding the Vanguards program and community bounties. The Vanguards program will reward community members providing technical assistance and content creation. +- GitHub discussions are open for feedback before formal funding proposals are put forth. + +### Akash EDU +- Akash EDU platform revamp planned, with improvements in sign-up flow and curriculum. + - New courses: Purchasing/Staking AKT, Deploying on Spheron, and Using Stable Diffusion on Akash. + - Community members are invited to contribute additional curriculum ideas in the SIG channel on Discord. + +### Zealy Platform +- Update on Zealy’s launch, led by Robert Del Rey and Andrew. Zealy provides missions for community engagement with rewards in AKT. + - Initial launch success with over 50 participants completing missions. + - Pilot extended into January to allow broader participation. + - Feedback on missions and tasks are encouraged in the Zealy Working Group channel on Discord. + +### Community Project: SDXL on Akash Network +- Highlight of the SDXL project that allows community members to generate AI images using the Akash network. + - Discussion of creating a Discord channel for sharing SDXL-generated images, potentially linking Twitter posts with SDXL-generated content. + - Adam confirmed the channel setup post-call. + +### Closing Remarks +- Final call of the year, with gratitude expressed for community contributions. +- Encouragement for feedback and ongoing participation through the Akash Discord SIG channels. +- Wishes for a happy new year and closing with thanks to all participants. + +## Action Items +- **Adam Wozney**: Set up a Discord channel for SDXL image sharing. +- **Hackathon Working Group**: Finalize GitHub discussions, prepare proposal for governance vote. +- **Community Members**: Review and provide feedback on governance proposals in GitHub. +- **Zealy Team**: Continue mission updates and engage community feedback in Discord. +- **SIG Participants**: Share ideas or new curriculum for Akash EDU in the SIG channel. + +# **Transcript** + +*This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created.* + +Adam Wozney: right cool, and I think we Thank you guys for joining today's Community Sig office hours working call special interest group Community event. This is the final Community Sig call of the Year. This is the first year that we've kind of done this sig and working group kind of strategy and framework. So I think it's been pretty good so far and we're definitely getting towards the end of the year. I said before this call started. + +Adam Wozney: We're about three weeks until 2024 and I've seen calls from different things that we're doing whether it's Twitter spaces or office hours with insiders or Sig calls getting less and getting more people are starting to check out for the new year. So I'm expecting a January 1st. All of the events to be super jam packed with people or standing remotely in these calls. So thank you guys for joining today's special interest group Community call just as a reminder just the level set the community Sig definition is really focused on discussing supporting and managing Akash Community initiatives those initiatives sometimes turn into working groups. Sometimes as initiatives are just one off things like bounties, but anything that you can think of in terms of what community members are doing to contribute to the network, this is kind of a good place to start for that. + +Adam Wozney: I only have a handful of agenda items today some of these things you guys might be aware of some of them you might not but I thought it'd be good just to kind of cover our bases so that way once we hit the ground running. We'll be ready to hit the ground running next year for our first Community call of the new year. But before I get into my agenda items I have one for you Robert I mentioned before this call started, but is there any agenda items you guys would like to cover anything that you guys are thinking about or interested in discussing? + +Adam Wozney: All right, yeah, so my gym is pretty straightforward. It's a lot of stuff that we've talked about in other calls. But first thing is events the governor's proposal for events have passed the signaling proposal. So I'm moving forward on the proposed events that were listed in the signaling proposal. Either before the end of the year or early next year. We're gonna put in our q1 budget request for events because the signaling proposal passed. I don't see any red flags or any issues with the three events that are listed in q1 that we're going to be participating in. + +Adam Wozney: but I want to kind of quickly cover where things are at. I'm already starting to get the ball rolling out what our sponsorships and attendance looks like the first big one that's coming up in the new year is East Denver that's happening in February. We are sponsoring that we are gonna have a booth there. We are gonna bring on a few Akash community members in the Insiders program to help manage that booth at East Denver is the largest kind of aetherium developer conference in the United States. It's sister event ECC. The absent in Paris is the European version of East Denver. It's the largest etherium developer conference in Europe, but because it's such a big conference and because there's so many attendees and crypto fans there other projects get involved. So it's a huge event like 15,000 people attend. So we are going to be doing a booth we are gonna have caution insiders represent Akash at that Booth. I'm really excited for that. I should have more updates as time progresses, but + +Adam Wozney: go to the events working group channel for more of the updates on East Denver. The next event that's coming up is NVIDIA GTC. We are not sponsoring that event. It was budgeted out that we could sponsor it but it is a huge event because of the AI boom and Nvidia kind of at the core of all AI talk really besides chat gbt. It's very expensive to participate sponsorship started way in July. And most of them has sold out. + +Adam Wozney: Some of the higher tier sponsorships are $350,000 and that only gets you a very short amount of time to get on stage and talk it gets you a booth but then you got to spend money on putting this boot together. So you're looking at if you want to pull out presents and Nvidia. You're probably looking at 400 to 500 thousand dollars. We are not there yet. We are not gonna do that. I don't think they even offer food like it's not all they do but you try to pay for it. It's a very + +Adam Wozney: high tier High Caliber event in a well-known space and a booming space. So instead of sponsoring we are going to be just attending. However, we are going to be doing kind of a private invite-only dinner. We're having a couple overclock members attend and I'm currently looking for some insiders that caution ciders to also represent Akash at the event. So probably three people in total go to Nvidia and that's gonna be just attending kind of getting a sense of what the conference is all about. Seeing how we can plug in a cost of maybe future conferences. so we'll see how that one goes. So we are first one we're attending so that one I'm working on. That's just attending so just paying for tickets no sponsorship. The next one that will be sponsoring is actually happening over the Nvidia time is kubecon in Europe. + +00:05:00 + +Adam Wozney: Some of our insiders attended that one before I think it's very relevant to We're gonna be sponsoring a booth there. It's a little over what the sponsorship dollars that we have. But I do have some wiggle room to cover the sponsorship for that. So we should still fall under budget for kukan EU. Because we are going to be sponsoring a booth. I've already connected with three insiders and I think we have the three insiders that will represent Akash at kukan and help out with that Booth representation. The goal for that is really better understanding how we can get involved in future kubecon activities because they do a side events. They do a lot of different things throughout the course of the year in different parts of the world. So I think we're gonna get a lot of good understanding of what we can do in the future with them on top of just generating leads for introducing cost to people that might not be familiar with it in the traditionally a web to space like kubecon that's happening in Paris and that's gonna happen over the same period of time is NVIDIA. So we're gonna have a couple different kind of event groups going to those things. + +Adam Wozney: And in the final event is consensus. That's the granddaddy of all crypto events been around the longest, 15 to 20,000 even more sometimes attend that event it's a week-long activity of all these different projects going there's investors and media and just all these different crypto projects that are going to be in tenants for consensus that's happening in Q2, but just to get the ball rolling assuming + +Adam Wozney: That the Q2 events governance proposal will pass because historically all of them have passed I can kind of move forward on potentially getting a sponsorship going there what it looks like we'll be doing is bringing a couple insiders along to help and a couple overclock team members to help put together a media that will be on site during consensus. And the cool thing about it is there is now a big push into crypto and Ai because we're kind of at the Forefront of that we will have our own dedicated AI track that's essentially a part of this so there will be no other AI meetups. It'll be basically Akash AI Meetup at consensus. So we're gonna be kind of one of the diamonds for AI out there and I think we need a lot out of that Meetup opportunity and then it goes with all the other bells of whistles of that sponsorship. It is a little bit over what our proposed budget is for sponsorships alone. But again, I do have some wiggle room for our other activities that we'll be + +Adam Wozney: In there, so I'm excited about the consensus event. That'll be happening in Q2 of this year. So still a lot to work out with that one, but we're putting that together. Last thing I was gonna mention before I move on from events or save you guys have questions about these for eat Denver. I'm also working on putting together a cosmos kind of either half day mini conference or potentially just a larger scale Meetup. I've connected with the folks Cosmo verse of connected with the folks at osmosis secret Network. Eve + +Adam Wozney: what else is polygon Labs a few other Cosmos projects and the goal behind this kind of event that we're proposing is introducing East Denver participants to different Cosmos projects and getting some cosmonauts together to kind of network and meet each other and kind of shake hands and kiss babies as it were so a lot will be happening for Denver and videos gonna be pretty lightweight just attending Kube Carnival of a booth and then consensus is still kind of being worked out but usually consensus a lot going on, so they'll be a lot going on for consensus, but that's not for another four months or so. + +Adam Wozney: that's it for in-person events that are part of the events working group because the last thing I was gonna say about that is if you want to get involved in all these event activities understand what we're doing how it's all working. Just go to the events working group Channel and our Discord and that's where all event activities in terms of us sponsoring or having a presence at owned events or not owned events. It's happening. Just go to that Discord Channel any questions on that before my quick next agenda item + +Adam Wozney: All next up is Not tomorrow, but this Thursday, we're gonna be doing our first ever public Insider office hours. So for folks that are either watching this recording or current or new or OG insiders that are in the call right now traditionally office hours have been exclusive to The Insider Community. It's an opportunity for insiders to share feedback ask for support. We give Community updates and then sometimes we'll even bring in guests for kind of project updates on things that they're working on exclusive to The Insider Community. We are going to be doing our first ever public office hours this Thursday at 10 am + +00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: We're gonna be hosting it on Zoom. Usually we just do these inside our office hours on Google Hangouts because it's private but because we want people to see what goes on in these office hours and potentially find new insiders to apply to join the program. This is gonna be our first ever public one. That's really the goal of this is to kind of introduce the Insiders program to a wider scope of people and see if we can get some new applications if it's successful. We'll do some more in the future. We might not host it on Zoom. I've heard there's privacy issues of Zoom. So I definitely want to be well understanding of that, but we just wanted to get one up really quickly. so that'll be happening this Thursday if it's successful and people really respond. maybe we'll do some more in the future. If not, we'll just kind of keep doing these + +Adam Wozney: Exclusively every week at Thursday at 10 am but that's gonna be happening. This Thursday live stream was just promoted on Twitter and go check that out. Feel free to promote that to your friends and colleagues, but that'll be happening this Thursday. that's it really for event related things any questions on any event related stuff before I move on to the next item here. See if there's anything in the chat. Nope. Yeah, cool. + +Adam Wozney: Next up is the hackathon working group. So the hackathon working group was kind of formed out of the community special interest group a smaller subset of individuals so they wanted to get involved in actually putting you on in a cash hackathon. So we ran our first one last year. There was some things that went really really well. There was something that didn't go. the first hackathon was really focused on just kind of understanding what we want to do in upcoming hackathons. what doesn't work just generally figuring out what we want to kind of contribute in terms of folks that would be interested in building on top of Akash. + +Adam Wozney: The hackathon working group was formed again for 2024 and currently the proposal is up on GitHub discussions for review it basically lists out three potential hackathons or three proposed hackathons for next year TBD and what we want people to build TBD and exact times but the general formula and the framework is now on GitHub disc. Questions for people's feedback. It's going to be open until next week Friday at that point. If there's any things that we want to change we'll change it. And from there. We'll put it up for a community governance vote on funding three hackathons for next year. + +Adam Wozney: We will be looking for three roles as a part of the hackathon. It'll be a marketing manager role there will be and that basically their function is confirming judges for The hackathon and then additionally finding sponsored tracks other Cosmos or other projects that are interested in participating in the hackathon and having their own sponsored Bounty track something that links to Akash with their own prize pool. That's something that worked pretty well for our last hackathon. So the marketing manager will be doing the community manager role will be basically answering questions and set up private or not private but a public Discord channel for the upcoming hackathons. So just basically Community Support there answering questions about the hackathon and then the event manager role will be helping organize workshops with members of the overclock lab team member of the Insiders community and members of the sponsored tracks basically answering and putting + +Adam Wozney: workshops on how developers can interact with their different protocols So those will be the three roles and those are paid roles. That's all listed in the hackathon working group are all in the hackathon GitHub discussion that's open right now. So go review that leave your feedback and then hopefully before the end of the year or early next year, we'll put it up for a governance vote to fund three hackathons for next year. + +Adam Wozney: Next up is the community support prop. So that is another proposal governance proposal to fund community activities and there's really two big kind of items on the community support prop. That is up for GitHub discussions. Right. Now. The first is funding the vanguards program, which is kind of our Elite community members who respond to Discord Community questions answer technical questions provide a feedback at Akash, and then there's kind of like Choose Your Own Adventure path for individuals that are building, different video curriculum or creating technical blog posts or putting together the framework for zealy a community kind of task manager building functionality for So that's for funding the vanguards those individuals that are highly engaged and very involved in ecosystem making a cash what it is and then the other kind of + +00:15:00 + +Adam Wozney: Adam is bounties and those will be basically kind of one-off opportunities for any Community member to build or do something that's beneficial to the ecosystem. So that proposal is up live right now on GitHub go review it leave your feedback and then hopefully before the end of the year or again early next year, we'll put it up for a funding prop and then we can move forward on all those things. That's it for the governance proposals. Any questions feedback thoughts on that before my maybe final two or three line items. Going Scott. + +Scott Hewitson: To bring that up and then let's get a bounty for it. So it's like if a bounty has the support of a Sig or working group that's 10 times more likely to, get put forward. I really just want to empower the community to be able to do that. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you Scott. And yeah, and if you want to get it more involved in that governance proposal or you have any questions or thoughts about that you can head over to the community Sig Channel leave your thoughts in there or head over to GitHub where the discussions taking place around the bounties and around the vanguards. So leave your thoughts in there. last couple things is Akash edu. So that is something that's been kind of Ebbs and flows throughout 2023. Basically the idea behind Akashi to you is to have a platform where + +Adam Wozney: a future community members can learn about It'll have everything from how to deploy a provider using pretor to deploying on the Akash network using CLI or Cloud most we launched our first curriculum middle of last year and we learned a lot from that but then it got kind of pushed by the wayside because there's other priority items that people had to work on but we're at the point where I think we can kind of revitalize the Akash edu platform. It's hosted on omniflex right now. They have a timeline of December 20th to update the sign up flow. That's one of the biggest hurdles people are having right now for Akashi to you is just getting access to the curriculum. + +Adam Wozney: In a meaningful easily automated way. So they're updating their signup flow. So all you have to do is basically sign up with Kepler and you have access to the platform and then once you go through the quizzes and watch the demos and understand how to do these things you're going to nft saying you've completed these courses. So they're updating that sign up flow and we're gonna be adding three new curriculums. two are actually created by the community and one was created by a member of overclock Labs one is for purchase and staking akt one is her deploying on spheron and the other is for interacting with stable diffusion on Akash. + +Adam Wozney: So those will be three new curriculums that we're adding we're looking at hopefully before the end of the year. It'd be good to give something to people while everyone's away on vacation and they want to get away from family. They can go take some courses on Akashi to you. But hopefully before the end of the year all these things will be live Akashi, you'll be updated and we kind of see how those things progress if you want to get involved in Akashi to you just head over again to the community Sig Channel and leave your thoughts in there. We're always looking for new curriculum to be created. So if you're interested in participating in that are getting involved heading the Sig Community Channel and Discord and let us know, final two things are first up is actually zeely. So one of our community members Insider and Vanguard who's on this call, actually thankfully Robert Del Rey him and actually one of our other insiders in vanguards. His name is Andre our Andrew you might have seen him in Discord or telegram they + +Adam Wozney: Busy working on zeely which is essentially kind of a Choose Your Own Adventure quiz and task kind of framework for teaching people about different aspects of Akash, and it's something they've been working on for a number of months and it launched a few weeks ago and so far it's been taking off really well so big shout out to those guys for creating it but since Robert you're on the call. I wanted to see if you had any updates or quick thoughts on zealy where things stand there. + +Robert Del Rey: Absolutely. Thank you Adam. Let me add the correct filter. + +00:20:00 + +Adam Wozney: There we go. Perfect. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah guys as you say I'm silly is kicking off really good. I'm so happy to see the feedback we got so far. And the last month we've been doing some updates called we've been talking with Benji also will be helping a lot reviewing the missions and yeah Just for the recording as you say Seeley is a Community Management tool. It helps Community Builders to engage with their community be a missions. The mission can depend. + +Robert Del Rey: How most projects use this is to create and Farm engagement, go to my Twitter retweet my stuff. But the way we're approaching silly on a cash is to make people build a stuff on a cash deploy this site on a cash or as for this talk in India cash test net and when they do that, we give them some experience point and some akt rewards. so that's a little context. We got a few phones to try this pilot. This Friday is gonna be two weeks since we started the pilot. + +Robert Del Rey: And since then over 51 people have tried to interact with a cash silly, which I find that to be a great number. I mean in less than two weeks we got 51 people trying this platform Benji run the calculations today and if we pay out all the rewards today, we would pay out around 430 akt which is 40% of our budget for this prices. So since we want more people to get involved, + +Robert Del Rey: We are going to extend this pilot. So this is an alpha your guys are getting for going in this meeting. We're actually extending this like you say Adam sometimes during the holidays people want to get away from their families. So in case you want to do that, you can step aside and do some silly missions. We're gonna extend this on for January fee. So it's gonna be three more weeks just so this way we can have more people try to build the stuff and earn more akd in their cash and next week have next Monday. We're gonna have our last working group call of the year in case you want to get involved or in case you want to know a bit more join that call. We'll share more updates over there. I will end it here, right? + +Robert Del Rey: Want to think much of your time Adam, but yeah, long story short Series going really good. We have got lots of feedbacks and it's just getting better from here. Alright. + +Adam Wozney: Very cool. Thank you for the update Robert. Yeah, there's a lot going on within zeely. I know you've been working on it for months and seeing it all actually coming together and launched as pretty cool and that's a completely community-owned kind of project. I remember when you kind of pitched the idea a number of months ago is called crew three at the time and I was like, this sounds awesome. I want to help out but there's a bunch going on but I think you got a handle it and to see you actually put it out there with help of other community members has been super cool so good job on that to get involved in the zealy working group. We have a zealy working group channel on Discord if you have thoughts feedback concerns head over there and that's where you can go for that. + +Adam Wozney: My final update is actually just a short one. So this was a project put on by one of our community members. This has live for a number of months. I just put in the chat. It's sdxl and This is basically so you can create imagery using AI all on the Akash Network first time that's ever happened in decentralized way. completely Community owned and operated and I just wanted to highlight that as a really cool project that's live for a while and put on by the community. So if you're looking to do things like this head over to the Sig Community Channel join some of the other sigs that are happening inside of the Discord. That's where Kind of get involved in these kind of activities and actually launch your own Community owned projects like zeli or xdxl and Akash. + +Adam Wozney: Beyond that that's really all I have for the day. Are there any other thoughts concerns agenda items you guys wanted to cover? + +Adam Wozney: honestly that kind of does it for most of the sigs and calls for the year? There's maybe a few more next week in the week after but I think there's maybe three and then it's the new year. So I'm pretty stoked how this first year went in terms of special interest groups and working groups. But yeah, it's been good. But yeah look so we got one from Alani go for it. + +00:25:00 + +Alani Kuye: Hey, what's going on guys? vertical question. Is there a channel on the Discord Some of us who are having fun with sdxl compose some of the cool images that we generated. + +Adam Wozney: That's actually a fun idea. I'm gonna make a note of that. There isn't right now, but I think that's actually a fun idea post images. I know a lot of Discord channels have meme channels where it's Show Your Meme highlight. I mean the reason why I haven't really actively pushed for that or thought about putting up that particular specific type of channel is a lot of memes are kind of moon boy related where it's like watch their token pump and… + +Alani Kuye: Yeah. + +Adam Wozney: the Discord is definitely not that but sdxl on Akash that could be a little cooler because it's not like we're saying posterior, akt moon boy meme on bringing the token but post a cool picture of something that Is about anything as long as it's like… + +Alani Kuye: That you sell. + +Adam Wozney: what an interesting image? we exactly + +Alani Kuye: Yeah that you just don't end up unstable diffusion, right? + +Adam Wozney: Yep, exactly. I actually really like that idea any thoughts on that. I mean I'm gonna do it right after this call. I'm gonna create a channel and I'll kind of put in your images of what xdxl here. Yeah, I think it's a great idea. + +Alani Kuye: That's a bit. + +Adam Wozney: I mean there's been I don't know the exact number Scott you may know I know it's like thousands of yeah,… + +Alani Kuye: 46,000 40 yeah Yeah. + +Adam Wozney: 36,000 images, right 46,000. So I mean that's a lot of images. So I think that's actually a good idea accelerize. It's just people are making them and we don't know about it and we definitely want to highlight that in a tweet or something, + +Alani Kuye: I think I did one yesterday on Twitter that I tagged a power show on. That kind of got some interesting reaction, which is kind of cool. That's where the idea came from. I wonder how many other people are doing the same thing and nobody knows about it, right? + +Adam Wozney: Exactly and I might even here's an idea. What if I label it when I create the channel I say, have you created a really cool image? You want to share from xdsl on Tweet about it and share the link to your Tweet in this channel. So that way it's goes to Twitter and then it also shows up in the Discord and then we can reshare it or do whatever we want with it. I like that tweet about cool. + +Alani Kuye: boom boom + +Adam Wozney: I'm glad you joined the call Alani. + +Alani Kuye: Hey, man, I'm always lurking. + +Robert Del Rey: happy to see + +Alani Kuye: Yeah, same to you. + +Rodrigo Rochin: I don't think the square allows showing Twitter images anymore. And the embedded new things… + +Adam Wozney: Really? interesting. + +Rodrigo Rochin: since it turned to X so we would just see the link. Or maybe it will be a better to upload the image,… + +Adam Wozney: I'll do some experimenting. We'll see I'll start a channel. Yeah, I'll do some short little experiments here to see… + +Rodrigo Rochin: but that would be real cool telling. + +Adam Wozney: If not, I'll put in some sort of lightweight directions. here's what you can do or… + +Rodrigo Rochin: Yeah, that's a great idea too… + +Adam Wozney: post here. + +Rodrigo Rochin: because they will get to promote their Twitter, too. + +Adam Wozney: Yep, exactly. So yeah, let me work on that beyond that anything else before we wrap up the final special interest group Community call of the year. + +Adam Wozney: No, as always thank you guys for joining the community at Akash wouldn't be the community if it wasn't for you guys. Otherwise, it'd just be me in a Google Hangout recording this message to myself. So thank you guys for participating in the Akashi Community. Thank you for making it what it is. If you have any thoughts feedback questions head over to the Akash Discord the Sig Community Channel or join this thing calls and kind of get involved in different aspects of Akash that way but as always do I want to say thank you for joining and happy New Year and we'll see you in the metaverse. All… + +Alani Kuye: All right. + +Adam Wozney: You guys. + +Robert Del Rey: Stay safe everybody. Thanks Adam. + +Meeting ended after 00:29:34 👋 + diff --git a/sig-community/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md b/sig-community/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..61be150b --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-community/meetings/020-2024-10-08.md @@ -0,0 +1,399 @@ +# Akash Network - Community Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #20 + +## Agenda +- Introduction and welcoming attendees +- Updates on the Insider Community and one-on-one calls +- Discussion on the upcoming community initiatives for 2025 +- Overview of ongoing and proposed community programs +- Event participation and planning for the remainder of 2024 +- Zealy Missions update +- Open discussion on community support, initiatives, and proposals + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 +- Time: 11:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://7hbbbiaiqssx7redpnzevdfif3smtvixbsd6uahwjtqugqcndxia.arweave.net/-cIQoAiEpX_Eg3tySoyoLuTJ1RcMh-oA9kzhQ0BNHdA) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Adam Wozney +- Tyler Wright +- Robert Del Rey +- Alex Ramirez +- Andrew Gnatyuk +- Dominikus Brian +- Poroburu +- CUMA JAY +- Deathless +- Izzie +- Rodri R +- B S + +## Meeting Notes + +### Introduction +- **Adam Wozney**: + - Welcomed everyone and noted his return from a brief time off. + - Briefly introduced a few agenda items, including updates on current community activities and new initiatives for 2025. + +### Insider Community and 1:1 Calls +- **Adam Wozney**: + - Has been conducting one-on-one calls with Insider Community members to gather feedback on community initiatives and gauge what members appreciate or wish to see improved. + - Encouraged anyone interested in the Insider program to apply through the Akash Network website. + - Currently revamping the community page for clearer information and easier access for new and existing members to learn about engagement options. + +### Community Program Updates +- **Adam Wozney**: + - Outlined three major programs in development under the "Insiders" umbrella to enhance community engagement and involvement: + - **Vanguards Program**: Established to provide community-led technical support. The initiative has been effective in offering timely responses to technical inquiries. + - **Ringmasters Program**: Targets those interested in hosting local events to foster grassroots community growth in regions around the world. + - **Alchemists Program**: Aims to formalize education initiatives, taking members from novice understanding to potentially becoming grant-supported project builders. + - **Navigators Program**: A program to assist community members and teams in integrating Akash into their tech stacks. + +### 2024 Events and Participation +- **Adam Wozney**: + - Highlighted ongoing and upcoming event engagements: + - **Permissionless Conference**: Akash’s small team presence at Salt Lake City. + - **Cosmoverse in Dubai** and **Devcon**: Akash will have representation to engage with participants interested in blockchain and cloud integration. + - **Tyler Wright**: + - Suggested a review of event participation strategies and increased focus on prominent events like ethDenver and Accelerate to ensure consistent Akash presence in 2025. + +### Zealy Missions Update +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Provided a Zealy campaign update, noting that Zealy is now in its third sprint of the second season, with the latest sprint ending on October 30. + - Introduced the secret word for Zealy participants to gain extra points, encouraging community engagement. + - Invited participants to attend other SIG calls during the week to accumulate more points and learn about different aspects of Akash. + +### Open Discussion +- **Community Growth and Outreach Initiatives**: + - **Poroburu** inquired about Akash’s resources for integrating into other blockchain ecosystems. Suggested exploring interchain collaborations to provide unique services to other blockchain networks. + - **Tyler Wright**: + - Encouraged the creation of a working group to explore potential interchain support and integrations. Offered to support any proposal development in GitHub discussions. + - **Alex Ramirez**: + - Introduced a cross-chain initiative aimed at allowing Akash users to swap funds from over 60 chains. Suggested potential marketing collaboration and support for developer tools in Akash’s ecosystem. + - **Adam Wozney** and **Tyler Wright**: + - Recommended submitting proposals and collaborating through the Discord or GitHub discussions to receive feedback and identify actionable next steps. + +- **Monthly Recaps and Digest Suggestions**: + - **Andrew Gnatyuk** suggested a monthly Twitter Spaces or digest to keep the community informed and engaged. Proposed organizing a working group for monthly recaps. + - **Adam Wozney**: + - Supported the idea and noted the potential for increasing Akash’s presence and engagement across various channels. + - Suggested community-led initiatives for developing a recurring Twitter Spaces or monthly email digest. + +- **Community Game Nights**: + - Andrew Gnatyuk proposed a monthly game night to foster social interaction within the community. + - Adam Wozney Expressed interest in adding a “fun” element to community activities and encouraged Andrew to pilot the game night initiative and seek feedback from the community. + +## Action Items +- **Adam Wozney**: + - Continue one-on-one calls with Insider members. + - Update the Akash community page to include clearer engagement options and a potential community map for visualization. + - Collaborate with community members to structure and refine the Alchemists and Navigators programs for a 2025 launch. + +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Continue managing Zealy Missions and organizing incentives for participant engagement. + - Monitor Zealy sprint participation and reward distribution. + +- **Tyler Wright and Community Members**: + - Initiate working groups to discuss Twitter Spaces and potential recap strategies for monthly community updates. + - Engage with cross-chain initiatives and consider practical approaches for collaborations with other blockchain ecosystems. + +- **Andrew Gnatyuk**: + - Pilot a community game night for insiders, potentially incorporating quizzes and fun activities with prize incentives. + - Coordinate with Overclock Labs for any potential merchandise or rewards for game night participants. + +# **Transcript** + +Adam Wozney: Hello. + +Tyler Wright: Hello. + +Adam Wozney: You gm gm. + +Robert Del Rey: High value. + +Adam Wozney: Okay, it's like we're recording already. Maybe another minute. See anybody else can join go in person? + +Adam Wozney: How's everyone doing? + +Robert Del Rey: Not bad for a Tuesday. I'm just having lunch right now. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. Yeah, I just grabbed a very quick breakfast. Bite between calls, cottage cheese and tomatoes, delicious. + +Adam Wozney: All right. Let's see here. + +Adam Wozney: They get my notes open gmgm. + +Adam Wozney: All I think we can kick things off for anyone. That's their own problem. Cool. Thank you guys for joining today's SIG community. Call on the 8th of October. we got children November so Only less than three months left until it's a new year. That's insane. someone's trying to join with them. There we go. Cool. I only have a few agenda items as I think most of you guys know, I'm still kind of getting up to speed for my time off and there's been all sorts of things in the pot while I've been away bubbling and cooking and stewing. So, I'm still getting my feet in the ground on what's been going on walls away. + +Adam Wozney: Still getting kind of up to speed on things but I have a few things that I wanted to cover and kind of chat about the way I'm thinking about, upcoming community activities, things people can get involved in. But as always before I kick things off, I wanted to see if there was any agenda items, you guys wanted to make sure that we cover in today's call. + +Adam Wozney: go for Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Sure the secret word for the silly mission about this working group called, I'll share that 15 to 20 minutes in the call. That's it. + +Adam Wozney: Perfect cool. I don't know. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks man. + +Adam Wozney: I actually don't even know that is but I'll add it to the nda. I'll say the Zealy mission. like I said, it's still getting up to speed on things, so I apologize. we got somebody else joining here. Get them in. cool, any other agenda items things you guys want to make sure that I cover + +Adam Wozney: No, all but What have I been up to? So one of the things that I wanted to do since getting back, about two weeks ago, was setting up one-on-one calls with folks that are part of our insider community, And for folks that are listening in or watching the recording insiders, is a exclusive community where people apply. And if it makes sense, we add them to private discord channel. We invite them to different activities, all optional, there's no requirements for being on a caution cider. But, because they're kind of, the tip of the community sphere. They're the folks that I kind of work with the most folks, at Overclock work with the most on different kind of initiatives. + +Adam Wozney: So over the past couple weeks, I've been having one-on-one calls just kind of getting updates for how things are on their end. what? They've been working on things within the community that they like that. They don't like, just general kind of updates on kind of how things are coming. Overall, for folks, listening, in either watching this right now live or in the recording, you can always apply to beat Insider Head over to the Akash Network Web page under community and you can check out more about the insiders program. That is something that I'm looking to update as well. the community page website. Something I spoke with Tyler about a little bit yesterday, I'm kind of rewriting what the community page looks like just. So when folks find a caution, they want to kind of maybe see what's going on or get more involved in the community, they can go there. It'll kind of list out all the different optional things that people can get involved in and hopefully apply to be coming to caution cider. + +Adam Wozney: So over the past few weeks, that's what I've been working on. Mostly is just kind of setting up these one-on-one calls and getting up to speed on everything that's been happening. While I was on paternity, leave for those two and a half three months. + +Adam Wozney: On top of that, one of the things that I've been thinking of mostly is what our community framework can look like going forward. Kind of leaving special interest groups like the Community group here like clients or the steering committees kind of separate within the kind of akash community. What are the things that we can do to kind of better support individuals. So one of the things that I've been talking with folks, in those 101 calls are like, What is the kind of 2025 outlook on community? Look like, What are the things that people are right now kind of organically doing already? And How can we kind of plug them into a framework to better support them and give them optional opportunities to contribute more to the community and the network overall. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Adam Wozney: And there's really I would say three kind of new programs that were kind of launching or looking to launch over the next few weeks months. Here, all falling under the insider umbrella. So, as a reminder, a conscienceiders they go through an interview process and onboarding process and then they gain access to kind of first-hand or early access to different bonus or HACKATHON initiatives. They join a private discord channel. Just for insiders to kind of get updates from Overclock, and from Akash, and from other community members after share things they're working on for feedback, all sorts of different stuff happens in there. So, there's kind of exclusive things that caution Siders gain access to + +Adam Wozney: As people progress inside of the program, some people are a lot more active than others, which is totally fine. There's no requirements for being an insider, but as people progress and get more engaged, there's opportunities to kind of get rewarded for those activities that they're already kind of organically doing. And the best example in that which I think most of you guys that might be familiar with is the vanguards And vanguards are basically community support engagement inside of our discord or telegram channels. As you guys know, the Overclock, the labs team, We're pretty small team and while we shirtle a lot of initiatives within the cash network, we're just another kind of contributing community member ultimately + +Adam Wozney: and there's a lot of people, going back a year ago where they're having a lot of technical support questions. And, I'm based in San Diego, Scott Carruthers, who met many of you might know, he was brought on to actually help support and we're getting 24/7 questions. Sometimes I was taking a while to get responses, so we launched the vanguards program as a way, for community members, that are interested in kind of engagement and connecting with other individuals, building out of kosh to respond to community questions, 24 hours a day. So we launched that program about a year ago. And it's gone really well. I think if you go into our discord and if somebody has a technical question, they'll probably get a response within an hour or two and before it could have been 24 or 48 hours or over the weekend. + +Adam Wozney: So that's been a really successful program and that kind of fits underneath the insiders because we offer that opportunity to folks that are a part of the insider program and if they're interested, they'll say Let me do it and then they are onboarded into the vanguards program. There are requirements to be a vanguard you have to be able to respond to questions. You have to have the technical skills and you have to be available, but you get rewarded for some of those activities all from the community pool which all of us go through governance. so that's kind of an example of the programs I've been thinking about kind of Establishing inside of the insiders kind of overall community. + +Adam Wozney: The last one that I launched before, I went away on paternity leave is called Ringmasters. And I kind of launched at a bad time because ultimately, I was like, Hey we want to support individuals who are hosting, local meetup events and their communities. It's a great way to get kind of a foothold in different regions around the world. It's great for people who are already hosting events or interested in hosting local events and building local community around, Akash ai, crypto cloud, all those different things, but I wanted to kind of a bad time because I launched it and then I was like, Okay, I got to go away for three months. So I've been kind of looking at it and walls away. There's a couple folks that are actively, hosting events. So that is something that I'm looking to kind of put more focus on now, that I'm back. + +Adam Wozney: Because I would love it if we meant, picture a map of the world and we had little pins from different parts of the world where people are, hosting once a month Meetup events. All around Cloud Crypto ai introducing folks to Akash So I'm looking to kind of scale that up and that's also optional, but there are requirements, you don't get rewarded unless you're actively doing the things that need to be done. right now, we're paying that out of bounties, but I think going into 2025 will have a proper kind of overarching community governance. Proposal that'll list out community programs line items. So, that way everyone in the community can kind of put in their feedback before we put it up on chain for a vote. But right now we have enough from a boney's to support the Red Masters, but going into next year. I think it'll be a little bit more formula. So that's kind of another program that sits under the insiders. Kind of community. the two ones that are free and kind of + + +### 00:10:00 + +Adam Wozney: sort of launched are what I'm calling alchemists and navigators. So because they give you guys an idea of what those are. So alchemists are really focused on education, and the way I've been thinking about it and I still need to put in a strong framework for support, but the way I'm thinking about, is a lot of people that are interested in Akash, but going in and getting questions and answered on discord, that's just to one off. They want to go through an educational curriculum. So they can kind of learn different aspects of cloud akash offerings. + +Adam Wozney: we launched education, a couple months ago, early in the spring and we had three courses all community developed put on there and it was actually pretty successful. We had 400 or so people sign up. They go through those courses and they get little nfts and it's free and it teaches people about Akash. I'm looking to scale that up a bit and I want to put it into a proper program. I don't know exactly what it looks like yet but high level. Would be people want to learn about They go through the education courses from there, we'll have some sort of bounties or hackathons that people can participate in to kind of get more involved. And then from there if there's a project, that's really interesting. There could even be grants awarded to individuals that are building things that help other people build on a cache. + +Adam Wozney: That's kind of the high level of what it looks like right now. I don't have anything to share in terms of how this work. Exactly. But that's what I'm thinking about going into 2025. Hopefully, having a really strong kind of, alchemist program teaching, people taking them from, not knowing anything till they have potentially, a grant building something that's beneficial to other folks that are looking to kind of build on top of Akash. And then the final one, which is kind of launched right now, but we're still kind of putting it together. Exactly. It's called navigators. + +Adam Wozney: And basically, navigators are individuals who work with community members and help them integrate akash into their tech stack. The best example, I can give you is, as you guys are probably aware. There's a lot of events for attending, especially over the last few months while I was away and leading into next year and at these events, there's organization, small startups, maybe have five or ten people on their team or even a small two or three person team and they're like, I can't really be beneficial to the project. I'm trying to build the company. I'm trying to build, but I just don't know how to do xyz thing. How to deploy onto Akash or how just to gain access to the network. And normally we would just say Go to the, discord there's vanguards there. They can help respond to community questions but they need a little bit more hand holding kind of helping them integrate. + +Adam Wozney: So, the idea behind navigators they're technical individuals who understand Akash inside and out, they're willing to donate some of their time to helping people on board. So won't be just like one question, they get an answer and they're gone. It would be almost a process where we, add them to a private discord channel with the team and they work with them all through kind of ideation all the way to integrations, so that could be a longer tail process. That's also optional for folks inside of the insider community to join. But it's up to them to know that it really depends on how much skill to have inside of the network, how talented they are in terms of integrating kind of systems into the network or integrating a cost into people's programs or projects, they're working on. And that we're signing kind of soft launching right now. But each of these programs that I mentioned, they're all rewarded. So it's all things that people are + +Adam Wozney: Already responding to questions on discord creating content, helping projects integrate their systems or adding a cost to their tech stack or hosting local events. These are things that are kind of organically people are doing, but now we're just trying to formalize it and find ways to support individuals through rewards incentives activities. Helping people grow within those kind of optional opportunities within the greater kind of community, landscape of Akash, So those are the things that I've been personally thinking about since I was away and I'm trying to kind of put the groundwork and the foundational elements into those individual efforts. But that's how I've been thinking about community programs right now. So that's a pretty big high level of what's happening within the community from my perspective and how I've been thinking about contributing to Akash, + +Adam Wozney: But any questions or thoughts on those kind of high level initiatives before we get into maybe only one or two more agenda items? Honestly? + + +### 00:15:00 + +Adam Wozney: Makes So stay tuned. The idea is, I want to, I'm still kind of putting together, a lot of the details on each of these programs, still working with, Tyler and some other folks on kind of how this looks like going from onboarding to. you're fully involved in turn activities. I think a lot of that will go on the website because right now, if you go to the community page, it's pretty sparse. There's some things but I wanted to be a little bit more detail, so people that are interested in getting involved in the Akash community. Can go there and has everything listed out, they know exactly what's going on and how they can kind of get more involved. so stay tuned for more of that stuff on the website. Hopefully we can launch that over the next few weeks here. But that's the big community stuff that I've been thinking about. + +Adam Wozney: next up is event. So as you guys know, we've been participating in a lot of events while I was away. And kind of even before the end of the year, the big events that are upcoming that I'm aware of. And I'm sure missing some right now. We have a small group of folks, some community members, some people from Overclock at Permissionless, which is happening in Salt Lake City. I've attended the previous two but this one I'm missing because I saw a baby daddy duties. I've enjoyed the first one. I thought was great. The second one could be a little better. So I'm really interested to see how the third one is this year. The bank list crew and block works. Put it on so We'll see how that one turns out. The next big event is Cosmo verse which is happening in Dubai. Sadly, I'll be missing that one as well. I've attended the previous two and they were fantastic. Very focused on the cosmos ecosystem. I'm curious to see how this year's will be in Dubai. And then I was gonna say a very small presence meaning, probably me, maybe one or two other + +Adam Wozney: Are a caution ciders for Devcon. We're not gonna have a big presence at Devcon this year. I'm attending mostly because I thought we're gonna be attending a couple months ago so spoke and I think it makes sense for me to go. And my wife is going with our baby, so I've no need to help with that. so devcon we will have a small team there. So if you have any thoughts on that, throw it hit me up. I think there's some other events, but honestly, I can't remember. If you go to the Akash website, you can see the events that we are attending. They are listed out there. So, any questions on events? + +Adam Wozney: No while I have you guys here, the other thing I guess with Tyler here, we do have other sigs and working group calls. This one is very specific to community and ultimately the SIG Community Call is about discussion support managing Akash community initiatives. So those can be things that go through governance proposals, those can be things that you guys think would be beneficial to growing the akashi ecosystem. So if there's anything that you guys have in terms of support or things that you're working on, that think it'd be beneficial to growing the community. Now is your chance to kind of throw in your two cents. So any thoughts on community initiatives? Before we move on to Robert, go ahead time. + +Tyler Wright: The only thing that I would say is as we move towards 2025. I know, previously previous years, we've done specific working groups events for that year for the upcoming year. I think that's something that we should start to at least think about as we move into the New Year because I know we have a Accelerate we have eat Denver coming up early in the years. A number of events that we have kind of thought about and talked about. I know We want to continue to grow our presence set events, so maybe it would be in our best interest to start to think about that before that working group. So sooner than later and start to Concretely know what we'll be doing in 2025. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah, and it's for folks that aren't familiar. So basically how things have worked over the past year or two that we've had kind of special interest groups and working special. Interest groups are really related to kind of forever subject matter. we're always gonna have clients. We're always gonna have ecosystem, validators stuff like that. So, we have these monthly calls where we discuss publicly, what's happening within the network from those calls, there's things that can branch out. So, for example, events, so we knew that we wanted to have a kosh at events where we know, we can have an impact and kind of grow the community and introduce a costume people that maybe, don't know about So, we've launched a yearly working group around events where a small group of folks that wanted to get involved. We look through upcoming events happening over the next year or so. And we say, Okay here's the events that we think are valuable which one of these ones do we want to attend? And from there we kind of started. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Adam Wozney: and then we got approval and then we put it in for a governance vote. And then we had budget for the year to actually attend these events and have a cash representation at these events. We did that as well for hackathons. We've done hackathon working groups where we said, Okay, we know it's important to get more developers onto the network, introduce a caution meaningful ways. So, let's put together a HACKATHON working group and a small group of people got together and we kind of organized what a HACKATHON would look like for So zeal is another example of that. There's a zili working group which Robert can talk about a little bit. That's really a completely community owned initiatives, our initiative. And small group of people got together. They put in a governance proposal, they got funding and now we have zeli missions going where we're introducing people to Akash. + +Adam Wozney: So, going into next year, we're starting to think about, what event working groups? Should we have, what, HACKATHON working groups and what other working groups outside of just the community SIG that we're talking about here? We want to put together. So if there are thoughts on that, you can always head over to discord put in your two cents, I think it'd be great to do a HACKATHON working group or a working group around X subject matter and then see if there's enough interest and then we can actually launch those working groups and people can meet on a regular basis to kind of push those initiatives forward. So, if you have thoughts on that, Feel free to raise your hand. Go ahead dummy. + +Dominikus Brian: Yeah, have fun comments on the website. You mentioned about you're going to update a little bit on website. + +Adam Wozney: Yes. + +Dominikus Brian: So, a lot of people been asking about the community size of akas, you mentioned we have insiders, we have this and that community developers and so on, but we don't currently have a good numbers. I mean, we can count on discord but it's not physical to the public. So to say, we want to have some numbers. + +Adam Wozney: Mmm. + +Dominikus Brian: No, need to be updated every time. Maybe just every other month or so every other quarter is fine. But we want to see some numbers. how many is actually community developers. How many is insiders, how many are and distribution is not a good thing if we can have it on our provider page, we can see where is the surfers, where's the GPU? And so on, right distributed all over the maps, but with community member, We doesn't have that. I mean, we can see we can have some estimate like 500 death community, deaf, some numbers on the discord but no idea where they are distributed. So it's good thing to have this so we can see… + +Adam Wozney: Right. + +Dominikus Brian: how it grows and so on. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah. Yeah, and my old company, we had a and I think it still exists. Let me see if I can find it. I can even show you guys but I'm my old company. I don't know, it's still here. We had a map of where everyone in the community was located, at least for local meetups. I can show you. So I'll share my screen real quick. So something like this is I think what you're talking about. + +Adam Wozney: It was basically a map of where everyone in the community was located for these local meetup groups. So these are all Meetup group chapters around the world and each of these meetup groups have members. So it showed, how many members this would be optimal? We don't have enough meetup groups to do something that this would be like one dot right now but that's one kind of data point that people could go like Wow they're everywhere. I want join I want to do that. That is an ultimate goal for me to have that on the community page. That's probably not going to happen for a while. We do have people that are not part of local in person, Meetups as well. + +Adam Wozney: that we could also mention instead of our discord. I think there's, tens of thousands of members, but we also have these things. So even just having Joyner, Twitter community, how many members join our discard community, how many members join our reddit community? How many members that could be interesting? Because I think it just brings validity to the project overall. So I'm completely with you. I don't know what that looks like entirely, but it's something I would like to see as well because I think that would draw interest into the community overall. + +Adam Wozney: Any other thoughts on the things that we've been talking about here before? Moving on to Robert with them, the Zeely mission? + +Adam Wozney: No, all right, cool. Go for a Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Sorry I don't know if it's the Internet on my phone, it's gonna slower than usual, but I just wanted to add a quickly reminder that we also have the Akash YouTube Working Group, So, if you would like to get involved in revamping the cash, YouTube channel, feel free to pass by on this court. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Adam Wozney: Very cool. Yeah, I would love the YouTube Channel playing. He's a little work. I agree with that. So if you're interested in getting involved in the Akash YouTube page, join the working group could call it ert. Any of the thoughts before we move on to the Zeely mission? + +Adam Wozney: Go for poroburu. I'm not sure to say your name. Poro. + +Poroburu: But you got it poroburu. So, I'm just wondering if there's any initiatives to provide akash resources, specifically to other blockchain ecosystems, for example, right now, I'm getting into Internet Computer and I'm trying to see if I can provision resources. Use Internet computer as a interface to access Akash microservices. and then another thing that's coming up is interchange. Accounts seems to be on the roadmap immediately. So it could be + +Poroburu: And a good initiative to provide examples for other L1's that are connected through IBC what they could do with a cash for example I can provide their own decentralized social networking and Yeah. + +Adam Wozney: Got it. Yeah, So off the top of my head, And maybe other folks could have other ways. There are other thoughts that around this. But I'm of the top of my head. This seems like something potentially in another special interest group call, this could be useful. + +Adam Wozney: I don't have an answer for you to be completely honest. a lot of the initiatives that kind of spawn up are really just kind of community owned and they throw it up onto our discord and then people kind of start contributing or getting involved from there. it even could be something that stems into a new working group, I don't know what that looks like entirely, but I do think that there are ways that people could kind of get involved and contribute in what you're talking about but that's not the top of my head, I'll see if Robert you had your hand up for a second. + +Robert Del Rey: It's fine. Tyler can go + +Adam Wozney: okay. Go for a tie. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I would second what Adam was saying about creating a working group or at least a discussion around what you're trying to do. I would also say anything ICA related and how other chains can leverage I would love to talk to you more about some of the ideas and we can think about what a working group looks like from there because I know that there's people that are thinking about Omni bus and so people can deploy other chains on a cost. I know with the Cosmos SDK 47 upgrade, it's going to do a lot in unlocking, some of the functionality around IBC and ICA that historically wasn't available on the So I would love to talk to you about ideas around that how we can create content to share with people etc. So if you have availability to reach out to me, Tyler Core team, then we can think about what a working group or open discussion to look like but + +Tyler Wright: Have some ideas around, how I think your skill sets and passions can be leveraged. + +Adam Wozney: Very cool. + +Poroburu: Yeah I wrote something in the chat but I will. put in this community discord channel and reach out to you Tyler's to further? Get discuss. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you, for that response. Any other thoughts questions concerns before we move on to Robert and Zeely? + +Adam Wozney: All right, Robert take it away. + +Robert Del Rey: Here thanks Adam and hi everybody. So as the Sealy campaign it's going on right now. We are in the third sprint of this second season that sounds really good The third screen ends on October 30th so, You can go in the city dashboard and I start doing missions to give a little context on Sealy on a cache. Celia specifically, we're doing missions to attract new community members and existing community members and make them engage with a cash. Most of the missions are about deploying on a cash. There are some content creation missions and there are missions about joining these type of calls, like the community monthly call. So, + + +### 00:30:00 + +Robert Del Rey: In each one of these calls, I actually give away a secret word and with that secret word, you can go to Sealy submit, the secret word and earn some extra points for the sprint. So, for this particular call the community monthly called the secret word is a O M. P. U p e compute. I also sent it in the shot, just for the record. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah with this secret word you can hear it now or in the recording, submit it on silly and you can earn some extra XP points. There are three more calls happening these same week, so if you want to join those calls and also earn those XP points, feel free to do. So tomorrow, we have the SIG design and the SIG, Economics, Monthly call. And then on Thursday, we have the Cash website working group call. + +Robert Del Rey: In all of those, you have a chance to earn extra XP. If you already did it, you won't be able to claim it again, but if you haven't done it passed by their cash, silly dashboard and claim that. Yeah, we want to reward you to get involved with a cash. But what we really want is to have you as an active member of the community and maybe you joining to one of those particular working group calls, I don't know. You can find your group and go from there. so yeah, it was a bit long of my intervention, but that is all I wanted to say about silly. The spring tree is going on. We're paying the rewards for the print. Number two. The moment. And yeah, that. Thank everybody for participating honestly. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you, Robert for that. Robert's been doing a bunch of work him enough. Fee folks have been doing a bunch of work on Zeely and zeal has been super awesome. I think it's brought a lot of folks to the community. big shout out to Robert for all the support on the working group and the Zealy missions. Tyler, see your hands up. + +Adam Wozney: Remember I think it was up from before. So, we'll retract Tyler's Activity. + +Tyler Wright: + +Adam Wozney: No worries. cool. So other than that, those are the big things just to kind of recap, I guess for my perspective. I've been kind of doing catch-ups with everyone. Just kind of getting feedback on what the future of community can look like for I'm working on some new programs. I'm looking to launch over the next few weeks months. Here, we have a lot of events that were participating in. So if you're interested in that just head over to the website, working on updating the community page, I do like the idea that Dummy had on adding some community numbers in there to so people can see, what's going on and how large our communities because it is growing and Robert been busy. Working on all the Zealy Missions Season 2, episode 3, Very Cool Sprint 3. So yeah, it's been going out for a while and also big shout out to Robert and the folks that have been helping out with Zealy and then poroburu as Tyler mentioned, definitely head over to the discord. Join kick off a conversation there. + +Adam Wozney: It could be something that if we launched a working group, there could be other folks interested in kind of participating in building. Something like that As a reminder, everything inside of the Akash network is community driven. Overclock Labs is just another contributing voice to the community. We help share put things along, but ultimately everything is decided by the community, which is kind of unique in the space. So, if you guys do have any thoughts, question concerns. You can always head over to the discord in the community SIG channel or any of those channels to kind of throw your two cents in. But, cool. It's a great one. More question from Alex, go for it. + +Alex Ramirez: Hey guys, really nice being in the call. I was invited by Robert's and first of all, I want to give the and brief about our product, which is somehow aligned with maybe per group have talked about. we have been activating our cross chain from deposit to a kush from somehow it's early days. Someone who may be familiar with ranko? Rango is crossing, Texas and breaches the applicator. So right now, we are submitted pool request in acres. + + +### 00:35:00 + +Alex Ramirez: I'm buying on Hkt based and very users, can easily land on Rango, to cross genes up their fonts to Akt. So we were looking to expand our cooperations with Acush community. So I have a couple of suggestions, so I wanted to briefly estate them. So here, your thoughts about them, first of all, for users, better Unix, and + +Alex Ramirez: We can submit a pool requests. They're Users tab directly on Acres landing. So up to Akt from anywhere through a rank of regions opened in a pop-up window. So that's the basic idea, very users can easily move their funds from over 60, EDM and non-evm chains to a coach, even from Bitcoin and Also regarding the cross chain expansion of Akt. We can submit another request in. I assume You Guys Have 85 and DID Tools section. + +Alex Ramirez: There are any developer that wants to build on top of Acush can use our tools in it to provide its users, the ability to easily move funds from anywhere to acush that the second opinion and the third one would be that. We are open to any + +Adam Wozney: We lost you. + +Alex Ramirez: This. + +Adam Wozney: Did we lose them? + +Tyler Wright: I can't hear him anymore. + +Alex Ramirez: Sorry guys I was interrupted the last but not least would be that. We are open to our marketing activity boosting your community as so we can have some brain and storming on that. I'm not sure that if here is the correct place where we can discuss about coal marketing campaigns but since we haven't executed Akash from in somehow hot days of cosmos and we are very fond of cosmos, ecosystem and exclusively acush. So we are also and to some cool marketing activities and maneuvering + +Alex Ramirez: On these cross chain opportunity and even maneuvering on your initiated their users can easily move their fonts to Akash and meaning on those initiatives and opportunities available on acush. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you Alex. So I'm not sure place because there's a lot to unpack there. I'm actually not sure the best place to go in terms of next steps to kind of get involved or ask for some community support. I would suggest heading to either Github discussions if you have a proposal or an idea around how Akash could support a larger initiative that you're trying to build out. We're looking to update our best practices. Doc that's something we need to do tie. Probably this week we can update it which, basically, that's how you request funds for proposals, that could be beneficial to the cash network where the community is feedback and thoughts. And then you can see if it's if it makes sense to actually put up a governance proposal to request funds from the community pool or initiatives that are beneficial to Akash. + +Adam Wozney: I think that might be a good place to go or if you just head over to our discord review, the different channels that are available there. Look to a channel that you think makes the most sense and kind of pitch out. Your idea just throw it out there and see if there's anybody that wants to contributor get involved, but I think your best place to Probably be the github discussions but maybe Tyler is something to say. + + +### 00:40:00 + +Tyler Wright: yeah, I think if you have a proposal I understood much of what you were trying to say. I didn't really understand the ask besides, on the marketing support. So it'd be good if you could put any ask in a document, I think, because this is exchange related, the best place for this would be second sig. Economics. I'm discord channel. I know they meet tomorrow. So if you can put a proposal on chain, if you have something that you can talk about the specific, ask that you're looking for what the opportunity, what value you add, it brings to the akash network. That'll go a long way you can drop in sick, economics. And then maybe if you have a demo of how a cautious integrated currently, because I think you mentioned that you already integrated, that would be terrific as well. + +Tyler Wright: So I would say either get up discussions or just maybe a doc that is available for people to view and comment on that. You could drop in SIG economics. + +Alex Ramirez: Just don't think to add no request for font. I must have somehow. Wrongly As stated my statement and fully true for the first two points. I think it is the related. Since we are ready to submit the PRS regarding more engagement, it's Acush community, really guarding what we are providing. And as for experience, for users on a Christianity regarding the swapping font. And the second one would be suggesting our tool for developers or building on top of acush. + +Alex Ramirez: I did a third one regarding the core marketing activities. Again, no requests for fonts just was thinking about core announcement on social media, regarding our solution, which helps users and developers to easily move on to acush. Simply that's it. + +Adam Wozney: Tyler's here, hand still up. + +Tyler Wright: Sorry, I don't know It doesn't go down. That makes sense to me, Alex. If you could put that in a quick document even if there's no you ask a request, just like what you're looking for from the community, in terms of next steps, they're looking for approval. They just looking for comarking sounds like you're looking for prs support and merging. So I would love to know where awesome Akash or someplace else, but yeah, just let me know if you have any questions. By the sounds are example. And I'll put my hand down and shut. + +Alex Ramirez: All right, and no. So Tyler can I have your contact anywhere? It's easiest for you email, this code or telegram. So I can share the document link with you. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I would just say drop it in sick community or SIG economics. And then my discord is at Tyler Core team. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you, Any other final questions or thoughts before we wrap up? Today's this month's SIG community call. + +Adam Wozney: go ahead. Andrew + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah. Hi guys. Sorry I came a bit late today. I just had this idea. I wanted to ask Are we planning to of for our Twitter, a monthly, recap of what's been done on the cash, but to the whole audience, not on the Google meet Button Twitter, + +Adam Wozney: So it's funny. So right now, the short answer is No, we haven't really thought about doing it. Twitter spaces in a while. However, in a lot of the one ones that have been having with insiders, a monthly digest is something they've been talking about whether that's an email blast where it's like, here's all the stuff that's been happening at Akash over the past month. that's usually how they've been kind of thinking about it, but a Twitter spaces could be useful for that. Just for folks and record that and put it up onto YouTube, Whatever. I think that's one thing that we could be doing a little bit better job of. I feel like we haven't really been doing much in terms of regularly, scheduled content, other than we've been doing some tweets, and we're at events, but emails, we're kind of missing out on live streams or video calls we're missing out on other, than, what we do for the SIG calls, which are monthly, but that's, individual to specific things within Akash. + + +### 00:45:00 + +Adam Wozney: But it digest or a monthly akash recap. Something like that is something that I think we haven't been doing a great job of I think and it's maybe something I throw the ball back in your court. Andrew, maybe you're interested in participating, maybe even starting up a Twitter space is working group. I think I don't see anyone getting upset with putting the foundational elements and saying Hey let's do it, Twitter spaces once a month. Here's the framework for how these Twitter says they'll be hosted and ran by someone in the community. You've heard me when I used to do Twitter spaces back in the day, you're kind of the moderator, you're the host, you're kind of talking through. Here's all the updates. Any questions people join those. So it's something maybe to consider if you're interested in doing that. But right now, there isn't anything. I'm aware of a regularly hosted, Twitter Spaces, events, Go ahead, Ty. + +Tyler Wright: I would just add that a member of the netted out. Team B s was working on. basically a monthly digest for sigs in working groups which would be a little bit more technical. I think that this idea is a great idea. Maybe just a general working group around monthly updates where we talk about Twitter spaces. We talk about maybe a blog or an email. That goes out to people. Maybe like a blog, a specific to six and working groups. That's three specific pieces of content that are for different audiences. Some might be for the token holders, just want to know a high level, what's going on in the car. Some people might be for the developers that may be missed working group session and they want to get up to speed without having to look at all the notes. And some that just be for just general community members that maybe on is actually in discord. But again, get an email on a monthly basis. Here's all that's going on across the ecosystem and look to get involved. So I would second the idea, + +Tyler Wright: Pushing forward, some sort of. Working Group session to talk about this. who wants to get involved because it's Adam mentioned. I don't know if this is something that the overcooked labs team. Can handle right now or more has a capacity for. So I would urge people from the community to try to get involved in this and then maybe Overclock Labs can backpack off of that. So I think this is a great initiative and I hope that it sees a light sooner rather than later. + +Adam Wozney: Thank you, go ahead. Andrew. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah, but full of operation, for example, if we will do the working group, And we will schedule some pilot. Let's say, Twitter spaces. Can we count on that? We can Invite somebody from Overclock Labs to be a guest. For example, I'm the same like drag or chant, but, for example, Tyler or Heavy, or even Adam, just to talk about what's going on? Why we haven't seen Still baby Everest? What's like popping up? If in this space, something like that. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, I will volunteer Adam right now so whenever you need Adam Wozney will be right there for you to do it. + +Adam Wozney: thanks. Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: And I will say I will also do it but no I would happy to. I know other members of the community and at the core team I could think of a number of people that would be great guests. whether it be like Scotts of the world or I get people in the community that are very, very much engaged and our major participants at various sigs and working groups. So you would have support for sure. If not just Adam alone. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Got it, thanks. + +Adam Wozney: Yeah, I think it's really just kind of putting together a framework for what you think. This looks like getting people's feedback once there's buy-in. Then it's just scheduling guests. Be like, if hypothetically, let's say you're running it. You're like, I'm gonna be the host reaching out to someone and saying, Hey, do you want to be the guest for this one and then to scheduling it? And then From there, just plugging it in to Twitter spaces, which Zach you guys mostly know. He'd be the one to kind of schedule it and then it'd be joining it and doing it. So yeah. + +Tyler Wright: I think generally just add Adam … + +Adam Wozney: I mean + +Tyler Wright: what the effort is, again The community pool is to support people that are doing these kinds of initiatives. So if it's four hours of work to produce a one hour, Twitter spaces, just like those are all the things that we want to figure out by all the participants, and then we can figure out what a potential budget could look like at the group for these kind of efforts because, the return on investment could be, more people in the community that stay engaged, and stay involved. So please think about all those things that you're Thinking about what a framework could look like. + + +### 00:50:00 + +Adam Wozney: Will cool and we're coming up on time. Any final thoughts, questions concerns anything. You guys want to discuss before we wrap up this month's call? + +Adam Wozney: All Cool. So, as a reminder, these calls happened, monthly, you can head over to the akash website and kind of see the events calendar for all of our sake calls. Not just the community one we do, have I think there's a few more happening maybe this week. I don't know, I haven't looked, I'm still, as I mentioned getting up to speed on things, but if you have any thoughts, concerns questions, you can always head over to our discord as well. Somebody can definitely point you in the right direction in any of the general channels, I could plus place to start. And as I mentioned, if anyone listening this call or watching the recordings interested in the insiders program, head over the cash website, under the community page, you can apply there. Give me some time. I'm going through hundreds of signups while I was away, reviewing folks and trying to set up calls so I'm definitely behind, but hopefully over the next few weeks months here, things will be trucking right along because I think we'll hit 2025 at a good spot so We're Only two more community calls before the end of the year. So that's kind of crazy. So, + +Adam Wozney: To join the next one. But Andrew go for it before we wrap up the call. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah sorry. Sorry guys that's just because I came late and they have such good. Some stuff it deduct you. + +Adam Wozney: All good. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yeah, basically. So when we had, one one-on-one with Adam, I made this suggestion that I'm still thinking of this end of months game nights where we were community insiders together and play some games, like your guesser, or some quizzes, and break the ice and talk to each other. And if this would go and probably, if overclock labs has still left some merch to give away. we can make some prizes for that. So if you guys are down for it, I can try to make the pilot night game by the end of this month, I guess. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: So if you're good, I could try to host some and see how this goes, but just give me a thumbs up in the insiders channel just hit me with a dms and we'll see what we can do that. + +Adam Wozney: on that note Andrew and Robert it is something I've been thinking about and this would be open not just to it The insider community with the whole community is some sort of game night. Just something we do in a monthly basis where we get people involved and I don't know if we do quizzes, I don't know if we just do fun. Whatever chess games, I don't know what it looks like entirely but it is something I'm looking to add because I feel like that's something we're missing in the community. Overall is + +Adam Wozney: This element of fun and folks that are able to participate in in-person events, they're definitely fun because you're meeting with people, you're going out to after events and your networking, so that's always fun. But for folks that can't go to different events because they can't get away from work or whatever. I want to have some sort of, fun element to the community. It's something that I think we've been missing for a while, so I don't know what that looks like entirely. But I like your idea Andrew and I like, what you're saying, Robert in the chat around chess nights or something. So, if you have thoughts or thought, or you want to get involved in something like that again, head to the discord, Throw your thoughts in there. Feel free to tag me again. I'm still getting up to speed, so I apologize if I'm behind on messages and all that, but I'm hopefully over the next, week or so. Here I'll be back until okay, I've got to hang of things. But in the meantime, I think discord is the best place to go to throw out your ideas around this kind of stuff. + +Andrew Gnatyuk: Yep, I'm still down to renew the gather town. it's still Yeah, yeah. + +Adam Wozney: town is cool. Yeah. Gertown gather town is basically for folks who don't know, it's like Google Hangout but you're a little emoji and the closer you move to another Emoji. You can actually see them showing up on your screen, you can start to hear them but you can jump into up conversations just a little Zelda character running around which is kind of cool, something to think about as well. But cool. any other thoughts questions before we wrap up to call today? + +Adam Wozney: All thank you guys. As always for joining us without you guys, there is no cost. So big shot it to everyone to just if you came here for zeely, feel free to keep coming back because these calls are awesome. And now that I'm back, they're gonna be even better. So, thank you guys for joining. And as always, we'll see in the matter verse. Wait, everybody. + + +### 00:55:00 + +Andrew Gnatyuk: You guys. 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Current events include Permissionless, Cosmoverse, and Neural IPS. + +### Website Updates +- Website working group has improved menu and navigation based on user feedback, making essential content more accessible. +- Continued efforts to enhance website areas with known user issues, with new tasks expected next week. +- Recently introduced a new serif font across presentations, social media posts, and events, aimed to unify Akash’s brand identity. +- Updating illustrations and overall brand identity across all media, including events, merchandise, and social platforms. + +### Swag Shop and Merchandise +- Swag shop improvements are ongoing; Denis expressed interest in accelerating the process, despite other priorities. +- The team aims to add new items to the swag shop but faces limitations as merchandise is not a core business focus. + +### Akash YouTube and Zealy Working Group Updates +- YouTube channel recently received updates, including new thumbnails. A banner redesign is underway to refresh the visual appeal. +- Next working group meeting is scheduled for next week to continue alignment on YouTube content and design. +- **Zealy Design Submissions:** Reviewing community-submitted designs for Akash merchandise: + - **Approval Process:** High-effort designs with Akash branding are considered; low-effort or generic designs are generally declined. + - **Popular Designs:** A few unique, Akash-themed designs (including graphics representing landmarks from Akash conference locations) were highlighted as top submissions. + - **Encouragement for Participation:** Community members are encouraged to submit original designs for potential inclusion in Akash’s merchandise. + +### Open Discussion +- New Members’ Introductions, Denis welcomed Daniel and David as new participants. Daniel clarified that he had attended a previous meeting. +- Design Submissions Scope: Discussion on design concepts, with Denis clarifying that designs should remain relevant to Akash's brand. Robert explained the broader range for Zealy submissions (e.g., hats, notepads, USBs) but noted that unrelated submissions, like home decor, may not be suitable. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis shared a link to Akash’s brand guidelines for those interested in creating designs aligned with the brand. +- Denis reviewed all agenda items and noted that the next monthly design meeting would occur as scheduled, while the next website-focused meeting would take place the following day. + +## Action Items +- Denis to create new issues for upcoming redesign tasks and user experience improvements. +- Robert to proceed with banner redesign and discuss the timeline for publishing committee videos in the next working group call. +- Community members encouraged to submit high-quality designs, with a reminder to avoid AI-generated or low-effort designs. +- Continued work toward adding new items and finalizing the swag shop redesign. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's sick design meeting. I see Daniel and David, I'm not sure if you guys are here for the first time, so just a short intro. And for others, as well, that might be listening to this recording, sick design, meets monthly to discuss all things design related. So, we're covering from branding merchandise, video website, product design. And if necessary we are forming working groups to focus on specific projects. So yeah. + +Denis Lelic: So basically, during these meetings, we reviewed you, what was accomplish in the past month, and share some plans, maybe for the month I had. So as probably everyone's aware September is always packed with events. So some community members and core team were attending Korean Blockchain, weak Token, 249 and I think it happened. Last week and we have permissionless now as we speak. So for each of these events we've designed and produced lots of new materials. From both designs merchandise, giveaways, presentation's, and so on and so on. So + +Denis Lelic: And this month as well, it's just as busy with cosmovers and neural iPS coming in. And of course, permissions as I said is happening as we speak. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe the next topic. A website just from a high level website. Also has a working groups. It's called Working Group, a college website and that group, we're always working to improve the user experience at a new content. Maybe redesigning some of the parts to make the user experience better smoother and So if you guys visited network recently, you'll notice some changes around the menu. So that's a new redesign experience where I believe we solve a couple of issues that were occurring to many users. And now, + +Denis Lelic: Some of the content is easier to find and it's basically resurfacing and we see other issues arising. So because people are aware of these pages now and then what I improve them so in the next week or so I'm just gonna create a bunch of new issues to update those pages redesign them maybe but yeah, plenty of work there in the working group for the website. So, yeah, maybe you've noticed a design direction. On the website. We have this new serif font, we've been using. + +Denis Lelic: Partially in some of the presentation and social media posts and in the events. So, we're Kind of decided to include that serif font and the website as well, and it's becoming this part of the brand Akash as a brand. And next to that there's a new fresh set of illustrations. So now we're gonna make sure to update this brand direction, across all this different touch points. We're having so from events and merge social media videos and so on and so on. And Get us started our work on updating the brand manual and sharing that in different channels and making sure there is the right package to download on the website as well. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe. Another thought, topic around the website. + +Denis Lelic: It's always on the list, So it's the Swag shop with planning to redesign it and add New items. There, I like to see that move into production as soon as possible, but I'm sure everyone is aware of. We are not in the business of creating commerce and swag. So it's kind of always there on the list, but we got other things to do. But yeah, personally, would love to see Dad move into production soon. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: so, I'm just gonna keep it very high level. there's a number of other design projects in the progress, especially around a cash console, which we'll see new experiences rolling out soon. However, I'm glad Robert is here, so maybe he can just share some of the updates From the working groups of Akash YouTube Channel and Zealy. So, maybe Robert you can just start off with YouTube, sharing the updates progress, any blockers. So, anything you feel is worth sharing. So, the stage is yours. + +Robert Del Rey: Absolutely. Thanks Yeah, about due to We had our last working group call a little over a week ago. it last week was quick in a day ago. And yeah, the biggest of the updates was that all the steering committee calls are uploaded with the thumbnail. We designed. Thanks BS. The item that I'm waiting. + +Robert Del Rey: is due to same as Facebook, YouTube lets you add a banner into your channel. So we agreed that the banner was looking a better a little bit dated. and yes, is supposed to send me a draft about an image, a new graphic. Or for that side of the channel. That's the only thing I'm working as far as design goes. + +Robert Del Rey: I was wondering when maybe this is a question for the YouTube working group, but I was wondering When can we go live with the sitting committee videos So yeah, that's mainly. What we have with Akash due to the next YouTube working group call. Should happen. + +Robert Del Rey: we didn't have it this week so next week is Every other week. So feel free to go in to get more involved in a cashew to efforts. I will stop real quick. In case someone has a question or comments about YouTube. Before going to see. + +Robert Del Rey: If not, that's a thoroughly, correct? We have many shots channels that you can jump into and ask your questions or share your comments. We have the attitude Working group, we have the SIG Design Working Group in a cascade and also, we have the Cash City working group. + +Robert Del Rey: Which is my next topic for this. I will share the screen real quick, then I hope you don't mind. I think over the screen. I wanted to share some of the s submissions we had. On ceiling. + +Robert Del Rey: All right. I see the infinite mirror. Let me know if you can see my screen over here. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah. These are some of the submissions that we have pending for review at the moment. + +Robert Del Rey: For a little context, on a cash slug designer mission. In this mission, we're inviting people to design appealing, merge for the cash community. We had some submissions, some of them are decent. Some of them are AI generated. Those submissions and low effort submissions. We are declining them but those look a little bit more appealing for me. Those past usually I ask myself Would I wear this? If the answer is, Yes, it's most likely that For example, this one I left it pending because I wanted to show you here. But this is something that I would for example, + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: As you can see, it has their cash logo. I mean, as reference to a cash but also, it has phone graphics. You can see a little crown here. You can see a cache in phone letters, So yeah, it looks pretty nice. Usually, most of the submissions are As a stamping, the cash logo in a shirt and that's it. And sometimes you have a very oversized, a cash logo in a shirt and that's their submission. I reject those but this one I'm very inclined to approve This one. Moving on, we have this one too. This one it's in a shirt as you can see here. + +Robert Del Rey: This is what I was talking about low effort, submissions, guys. Usually just add a graphic in urge into AMOKOP. Usually this get rejected. But I'm just going to show you so you can have a better idea how they look. The third one, we have current at the moment. This one is a bit more packed. As you can see, the logos are a bit funny. + +Robert Del Rey: But it's kind of different design that is what we're looking for. I guess you can see the school. Had you have this combination of clothing? At least this guy submitted, different designs ideas. Usually, most of the people, they only submit one or two images like this one. So yeah, I want to extend invitation to the audience in the Design working group call. so, if you feel kind of inspired feel free to pass by silly, And in virgin be able to submit your creation. Possibly, this can make it into the cash shop and in the cash community can benefit of their community submissions. That's the idea we have behind this mission. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah other design that I really like it's here. This is actually the content submission that we have here. We are adding the best admissions we have on Sealy. Here, you will find guides images threats in Twitter videos. But for example, this submission, I really like this design a lot. The person told me he wanted to have this in a shirt you can see a cache. It's the public super cloud. I asked him I didn't understand send it to Super Cloud. I don't know what it meant. + +Robert Del Rey: He has to explain me this. But something that I really like was in the bottom. He wanted to add different landmarks of different places that Cash is having conferences. This one is New York. As you can see, here is the current state. This one is the Empire State. This one is the Liberty Statue. and yeah, I mean, it looks Different, it looks good. So yeah, this one actually came from the designs of the previous sprint last month. so yeah, we actually liked this one out of all of the designs. This is the one that we like the most We approve four or five, but this is the only design that made it to taste. List of this document. And these are the ones that we have for the current sprint. + +Robert Del Rey: So, yeah, that is what I wanted to share with you, hopefully to like those designs and hopefully, inspire you to take part in Seeley and… + +Denis Lelic: Cool, thanks Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: the Design Working Group. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah I think we're pretty much aligned on all the submissions. last time we talked about not having any of those AI generated graphics, just because they're Not easy to do but it's like the lowest hanging fruit and It's very low rest. So it's kind of hard to produce that on graphic on a T-shirt and so So + +Denis Lelic: But I do agree at the last graphic, you've shown. Ai messes up the letters but I do agree with the last comment you had for the graphic. You just showed in the dark, you can actually tell someone but some effort there. Think about it, design it, it's readable. It has design elements, it has some sort of a story with This distributed network. So, yeah, I agree. That's probably one of the best entries we had. but I loved the progress you're making with really, and, of course, I'm available, if you need anything design, related all, so on the front for the + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: I got YouTube channel. So as usual, I always try to keep this meeting. Open. So we're covering different topics but a bit from a high level where we can dig deeper is these working groups. So, if anyone is interested, we have working groups for the Akash YouTube channel. We have working groups for working group for a cash website, if you're interested in and the website designing writing content. And so, on feel free to join. + +Denis Lelic: but, Yeah, Daniel David. I think you're here for the first time so we want to say something. Ask anything, feel free to but don't be obliged to speak. You can just listen in the background. Yes, Robert + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, that is. I quickly forgot to say the secret word for Seeley. in Silly, we have a mission about the Design Working Group trying to incentivize people to join this particular call and hopefully get them involved in design. So, I say a secret word, They submit this work in the City mission and they get some extra XP points. Which convert to akat prices. So the secret word for the design mission, it's going to be the same. As always swag swag. I'll send it in the shed for the record and it's swag as W. A G. + +Robert Del Rey: You can listen now or in the recording go to Siri and submit this secret word and you'll be able to earn some extra XP points. And yeah, that was it. Thanks then. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, thank you. Rob. Daniel I think your hand went up. if you want to talk, feel free to + +Denis Lelic: Okay, cool. + +daniel ishaya: He? + +daniel ishaya: Hello. + +Denis Lelic: Hello. + +daniel ishaya: Yeah, I just said my name mentioned and people joining the code for the first time I want to just call it that I was, but of the last call. That jersey. + +Denis Lelic: That's great. Sorry. + +daniel ishaya: Okay. Yeah. Me. + +Denis Lelic: Can you repeat that? + +daniel ishaya: Are there? + +Denis Lelic: Sorry, I couldn't. + +daniel ishaya: Hello. Yeah,… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I can hear you. + +daniel ishaya: I was part of the last call. I just want to correct the impression. This is not my first time or joining the code. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, sorry about Anything specific you want to talk about while you have the mic + +daniel ishaya: Yeah, no So designs and is he only including, or you can have another different concept on the design, because from what display is just majorly, including Can it be maybe car housing or anything? of that nature music including + +Denis Lelic: A car and… + +Robert Del Rey: I believe I can take this one Denis. + +Denis Lelic: a house. Yeah, maybe I'll just Leave one thought it should be somehow Akash related. So, I'm not really sure that the house and a car and a car goes with a cash. But, feel free to + +Denis Lelic: try things, share them and we'll discuss them later. Yeah, Robert. Sorry. Go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, you just want to quickly add that Daniel in case you are referring to the city mission. yeah, we are open to pretty much like any kind of merch you can see hats T-shirts, we even seen A six USB sticks. Notepads also logs. So yeah, feel free to be creative. Let me tell you, there was one person that submitted hurricanes Chord things and sheets and it was like a bedroom and a cash pin bedroom. Right? It was really funny. But ultimately, we're rejected it because + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I mean, as a cash community members like that is not super appealing for the community. Usually things are more developer oriented and not like houses thought, if you know what I mean. But yeah, just wanted to share some talks about it. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert shared Brazilian link. So Daniel David if you guys are interesting. Feel free to talk to Robert me or just clicking here on this. Link in the chat section and feel free to Whatever you think it's worth designing and it's kind of representing Akash and a good manner. So yeah, go for it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, just going quickly through my notes. I think we covered very much everything we had to cover. If you guys want to discuss anything else, feel free to otherwise I suggest we wrap it up. We meet tomorrow again, just for the purpose of the website, but this design meeting is happening every month. So Interested, feel free to join and we'll see each other next month. + +Robert Del Rey: Awesome, thank you so much Denis. Alright, stay safe everybody. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Robert YouTube have a good day. Bye-bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:22:22 👋 diff --git a/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md b/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0105beef --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-design/meetings/023-2024-11-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,289 @@ +# Akash Network - Design Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #23 + +## Agenda +- Discuss updates on Akash YouTube channel. +- Review ongoing projects related to branding, merchandise, and event designs. +- Updates on Akash website and documentation working group. +- Address pending items from previous meetings and upcoming plans for Akash Accelerate videos. +- Provide an open floor for participant contributions, feedback, and questions. + +## Meeting details +- Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://ji5fpsj5wsui75zccj6ndnhl56hsuy5ygdcwrq4swjapnxdry4dq.arweave.net/SjpXyT20qI_3IhJ80bTr748qY7gwxWjDkrJA9txxxwc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Denis Lelic +- Robert Del Rey +- Tomoyuki Yasukawa +- James +- B S + +## Meeting Notes + +### Introduction and Context (Tyler Wright) +- Provided an overview of the SIG Design group’s responsibilities, including visual communication, marketing, content creation, and merchandise. +- Highlighted the oversight of the Akash YouTube channel and website working groups within SIG Design. +- Announced an upcoming website working group meeting scheduled for the following day to discuss Figma designs and content improvements. + +### Updates on Akash YouTube Channel (Led by Robert Del Rey) +- Shared updates on completed work during phase one of YouTube channel improvements. + - Reorganized content and removed outdated materials to enhance relevance. + - Updated the introduction video to better align with current branding and focus areas like AI and machine learning. + - Improved video descriptions with clear calls to action, relevant links, and a streamlined layout. + - Created visually cohesive thumbnails that adhere to Akash’s branding. +- Addressed the next steps for steering committee videos: + - Discussed fade-in and fade-out adjustments for a polished viewer experience. + - Proposed scheduling and progressively publishing these videos with a dedicated playlist. +- Acknowledged pending work on Akash Accelerate videos, including a recap video summarizing the event. + +### Merchandise and Event Design Updates (Led by Denis Lelic) +- Reviewed the nearly completed Akash events calendar for 2024, with Neural IPS as the last scheduled event. +- Announced plans to update the Akash swag shop using Shopify templates for simplicity and efficiency. + - Intend to add popular merch items showcased at events but currently unavailable in the shop. +- Highlighted the community’s positive response to event stickers, emphasizing plans to create unique designs for future events. +- Encouraged the community to contribute ideas and designs for upcoming merchandise. + +### Branding and Website Updates (Led by Denis Lelic) +- Introduced recent changes to Akash’s branding, including the adoption of new primary and secondary fonts (Intern and serif). +- Shared progress on updates to the branding manual, to be finalized and shared with contributors. +- Briefly discussed recent and upcoming improvements to the Akash Console, including: + - New trial-to-credit card payment journey for users. + - Enhanced deploy options, including GitHub integration. + - Plans to design and integrate new icons for updated features. + +### Community Engagement and Contributions (Tyler Wright and Denis Lelic) +- Recognized the community’s appreciation for Akash’s merchandise and branding efforts, especially stickers. +- Encouraged community members to join the SIG Design group, contribute ideas, and participate in discussions. +- Noted potential collaboration with a team specializing in 2D and 3D animations for future visual projects. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis thanked participants for their positive feedback on recent merchandise efforts and expressed interest in continued collaboration on design projects. +- Tyler emphasized the importance of engaging more contributors to support ongoing design and branding initiatives. +- Participants were invited to the next working group meetings for further discussions on the Akash website and related projects. + +## Action Items +- **Robert:** + - Finalize and upload steering committee videos with appropriate edits. + - Review and publish Akash Accelerate videos, including the recap video. +- **Merchandise and Branding:** + - Denis to finalize Shopify template selection and share options for community feedback. + - Update and share the Akash branding manual with contributors. + - Plan new sticker designs and themes for future events. +- **Website Working Group:** + - Discuss Figma designs and page adjustments in the next day’s meeting. + - Collaborate on documentation and new website features. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG design monthly meeting. It's November 13, 2024. During the special interest group for design, the group goes over all things related to visual communication and marketing on this group is a collection of members from the core team, the community that focus on again content creation both written and video content technical documentation. this special interest group oversees the work of the working group for the Akash YouTube channel as well as the working group for the Akash website and documentation. this special interest group for design also covers everything related to acos. network swag that goes out for different events, marketing materials that also go out for different events. + +Tyler Wright: So again there's a number of communication touch points that get discussed during the special interest group for design. Please if there's anything that you want to talk about specifically for me again we have the working group for the Akash website and documentation tomorrow. I know there's a number of folks that participate there and there's going to be some Figma drawings coming soon that we either talk about here today or talk about tomorrow in terms of adjustments and improvements to pages on the website. but today again we just had a working group with the Kash YouTube channel. + +Tyler Wright: I was specifically want to talk about some of the work that's happened in phase one around the class YouTube including the steering committee videos and see if we can get those listed and out of private status right now. I know that Dennis has also been working on a number of videos that are unlisted right now related to Akos Accelerate 2024 and so I wanted to make sure we can get those videos live. I would like to talk about the banner as it pertains to AOS YouTube. + +Tyler Wright: I know we normally would talk about this during the working group session but some folks had some conflict and then after that if there's time I would love to just talk about a little bit more about the digest this is something that BS has been leading but I just want to figure out if there's any blockers or any issues so that we can get an initial PR out there that kind of goes through what's happening in the community as well as this working groups and stere and special interest group and steering committee on a monthly basis and again continue to fine-tune that piece of content from there. Again, if there's anything else that anybody wants to discuss, drop it in. But I'm going to hand over to Dennis because I know Dennis usually is a leader of this group as the head of product design at Overclock Labs. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, we pretty much talked through the whole intro that I usually do. so one thing I'm not sure if you covered which takes a lot of design resources or our events. this year was a busy year. So we only have one event to go that's neural IPS happening not sure end of the month or beginning of the December. so just like a final final countdown for the event side. + +Denis Lelic: for those of you who are attending these meetings regularly, you probably see we've done a lot of different touch points pretty much everything that events require from booth designs and different materials like merge giveaways. I know Robert here was attending Cosmover, so you probably see some of the stuff that's been done. yeah, and as Tyler mentioned, tomorrow there's a website meeting happening. so I wouldn't take too much time today on that topic. We can go into details tomorrow. + +Denis Lelic: but I think most of the group here is attending that meeting So I'll be happy to see you tomorrow as on the front for the shop.ac.network. I had a look at the Shopify templates. there are some possibilities with the free options. So we don't have to build anything custom. We're going to have a simple Shopify store. So I have my favorite. So I'm just going to share it either on probably Discord. And we'll see if anyone's interested to contribute there as well. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: We have a lot of merch items that are currently not listed in this current shop. So, I'm looking forward to include those that are often seen in the events but not available in the shop. and apologies for not attending the YouTube meeting. I had a conflict. but I just created a note for myself to deliver that banner and I know I owe you guys a lot of even feedback and stuff like that. So I'll make sure I'll be more involved in that group as well. + +Denis Lelic: but if you guys want to talk about anything related, I know you just had a meeting. but if you want to say anything about YouTube, please feel free to. Yeah, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Hi guys, I hope your day is going fine. It's the middle of the week, so yeah, I'm happy to talk a little bit about YouTube and how it's looking so far. I'm ready to share my screen, so I'm going to take over you, Dennis, if you don't mind. All right, thumbs That means Okay, I guess you should be able to see now the Aash YouTube channel homepage, right? This is how we're looking so far. So, in phase one, we mostly reorganize, the existing content. We also deleted some content that was either too outdated or showing people that no longer working in a cache. + +Robert Del Rey: and yeah, we organized this based on the most recent content. We updated the introduction video. before it was a video on what is a cashache. It was like a three years old video and we updated it for this one is more recent. It's a Greg talk and Eric Borheis in the Akash accelerate. This is the thing that subscribers and nonsubscribers see when they visit the Aash YouTube channel. They have for you which is recommended content based on the person our popular these are the videos with the highest view counts. So I guess that's good and normal videos and the future These are videos in other YouTube channels that appear here in the Aash YouTube channel. some of them have a high view count like this one 13,000. + +Robert Del Rey: this one 30,000 and yeah, so we updated also the intro it was only a paragraph but I decided to expand a little bit more about what is a cache, what it does. I tried to add a few keywords like AI machine learning and yeah I don't think of any other links that we're missing here. I guess we're pretty much set as far as this site goes. but we are missing only one thing in my opinion and it's an updated YouTube banner. So yeah that is one thing that I think we're missing. I don't know Dennis if you're working on something like that or maybe you prefer us or BS taking over this and just upload any banner that we come up with. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. we can talk on Discord. + +Denis Lelic: I'm not sure if usually have a group chat but we can put one together where we can just talk about YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I'll be happy to set up that group chat in Discord with us. + +Robert Del Rey: And sorry,… + +Denis Lelic: Cool. Thank you. No, go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: you were sending this Okay. + +Denis Lelic: Go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: And the second thing which I believe is the most critical what Tyler was talking about was our videos that we uploaded. Let me click on our videos here. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: So you can see we managed to upload most of the extering comedy call videos with the updated tailor descriptions based on what we spoke on the call. I took the transcripts and based on what we discuss in each of these calls I came up with the description for these videos of course with the help of AI to make it look better and also added some relevant links to more Aash resources. + +Robert Del Rey: For example, I can open any of these videos and you will see a call to action. After the descript after the description, you will see Another call to action about deploying a cache and the link to a cache console and more ways to connect with a cache network. you see it says more about a cache and you see there's nothing below that but don't threat. the reason why it's that way is because when you leave it that way, YouTube adds some videos below this. So basically what people see is a description and below that they see more about a cache and they see three to four videos suggested to them in the description. if we add a link to a specific video, they will see a thumbnail for that specific video here. + +Robert Del Rey: So, for now, I just decided to leave it empty and let YouTube do its magic. so, yeah, at the moment, all these videos are unlisted, meaning that only people with the link can see these videos. And I'm just here to ask you if we can go ahead and We can either go live now with everybody or we can schedule them and progressively publish these videos. whichever way do you prefer, guys? I'm down. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I wasn't unfortunately involved in these meetings. So, I don't know what you guys have settled on. So, I'm just going to let you roll whatever you guys think is best. if you have any opinion, feel free to + +Tyler Wright: I would like to move forward. + +Tyler Wright: The only thing, Dennis, that I would like to get your quick look at is just to make sure that everything looks good from a fade in and fade out perspective. Everything else is just like the steering committee content. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I would love to just upload all the videos and then figure out a cadence where we're just uploading the most recent steering committee maybe like five days or seven days or some period that's quite short after the steering committee meeting happens. So I would love to get these live and… + +Denis Lelic: That's it. + +Tyler Wright: in a playlist and then we can see if we need to make adjustments from there. I would love to have a steering committee playlist that's fairly high up on the homepage. and then even higher than that, and maybe we can discuss this next, Robert, is Dennis created a bunch of videos for Aos accelerate that I think are unlisted. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: But I would love to get those listed today as + +Robert Del Rey: Sorry guys,… + +Robert Del Rey: I'm writing just to make sure I don't forget what you say about the steering call video playlist. about the fade in and fade out. Let me do a live demo right now so you can see how the videos look. and we can have Dennis blessing. So let me play real quick. It's a quick 5-second intro. Thanks BS for putting this together. And I edit it in a way that you Tai started speaking right away. usually there is some silence and I just cut that to all the videos to all the 20 student committee call videos. + +Robert Del Rey: Also by the end even though we say goodbye it seems some people stay in the meeting after you end So usually the meeting could be 40 minutes but the recording would be 50 minutes. I also edited that dead error just to make sure that when you say we're done the call is done and one second we jump right into the fade out second and then we have the fade out after you take so yeah that's mostly it that and the thumbnails + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: this is how the thumbnails look like. this is the design that we went with. We tried to imitate Dennis the best that we could. You see very big a sitting committee the number of the call I was trying to get some acceleration reference and this is what we came up with and of course the aash low name on this corner. So those are the two or three graphic aspects that we are working with in the YouTube side of Akash. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: I see you've put a lot of work there. I know this editing especially if there's a bunch of videos can be really time consuming. So I think everyone here and the whole Akash community appreciates your help around this. it's been too long since anything happened on the YouTube so looking forward to it. even… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: though even yeah… + +Robert Del Rey: You're going to change that. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Denis Lelic: but even though if I would still prefer if we move rather than we look for some perfection so even if a thumbnail is not perfect it has the basic branding rules it has all the necessary information and even the branding changed a month ago where marketing and some people from the core team decided to introduce some new elements of design. you can see those on the website. but I know you did like a lot of work and I wouldn't go back just to redo all of these + +Denis Lelic: thumbnails and so on and so on. but when we maybe do the next steering committee, we can just introduce the new branding. it's not much a bigger difference. We still have the same color and the what changed is this the secondary and primary font. occasionally the serif. Let me just share maybe the ge. Where is it? Yeah. So there's this ser font happening occasionally. And the next change was this font which is not Satoshi anymore. It's intern now. + +Denis Lelic: but yeah, as I said, these steering committees happen in the past anyway. So the branding is relevant to the time that the meeting happened. so I'm okay with all of these thumbnails, intros, outros. so if you guys wish, we can of course move along and do some u uploading. I mean, it's publishing so already uploaded. + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, it's already uploaded and the plan works for Dennis, no worries. we can go ahead and keep the new branding in mind for future videos, which they're going to come. I promise you that. And let's do this. after I set up the group chat on Discord,… + +Robert Del Rey: maybe you can share with us the new branding guidelines so BS can have them in mind when designing the banner for the YouTube page. And at least we can have that with the new branding. What you say? + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: I still have to put together this updated branding manual which is also currently on the website and it just needs to be replaced. I think it's somewhere in the footer. it's called brand resources brand. Yeah, this so download logo kit. It's also I believe here a branding manual is included. So I have to update that one thing if you want to talk about YouTube we still have time. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: + +Denis Lelic: Otherwise I would just like to cover another topic and that's product design. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: Okay. yes,… + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. … + +Tyler Wright: before we move on, again, I know there's some AOS Accelerate videos. Are those good to publish as well, Dennis? + +Denis Lelic: I can double check just because this happened a while ago six months ago. So just to see what's there I think and all the sessions that happened are there now. But I also have a short recap video of the whole accelerate event and… + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: I can also upload that one. It's a two, three minutes long and it just covers the whole day. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think I would love to. + +Tyler Wright: So, it sounds like Dennis, you want to take a look at that before it goes live, but the steering committee videos can go live? + +Denis Lelic: Okay. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, sounds good. and then real quick shameless plug and then also asking Dennis in public directly following this meeting, there's a SIG clients im During that meeting, the Kosh console team will be giving updates on the product side. I'm inviting Dennis there to talk there as at least listen in and see if there's any feedback, but I would love to talk also about the visual communication elements that he's been working on here. So, we'll hear it in two meetings. Go ahead, Dennis. + +Denis Lelic: Today I have backto back meetings. So that's why I couldn't join the YouTube because it was happening for you the first meeting out of one, two, three, four, five. so I just had to do some so yeah product product let me see okay there's some new additions to the console for those of you who use it regularly you're going to see that this thing changed here where users now can start a trial and there's also an option if you start a trial you're going + +Denis Lelic: user is going to convert to the different journey which is a credit card payment. and here is going to offer a switch between a wallet or a credit card payment. new addition is also for example if you go to the deploy there are new options here. build deploy launch container VM and run custom container and here there are a bunch of featured templates and all of these still need icons so I have to do those as well. + +Denis Lelic: yes and there's also an option to deploy through GitHub. so you just connect your account and connect your Git repository and you're good to deploy things from here as well. I got to say some of the stuff that's been newly added is not really just design contribution because developers use this UI component library where they just pull anything they need but if a certain new feature is added where let's say a complete new journey + +Denis Lelic: journey is added then sick design gets involved as So yeah, that's from the front of product design and there's a lot of new features coming to the console in the near future. I know they've been testing some of the stuff, but we'll talk about it when it live or in an hour or half an hour in the next meeting. yeah. Anything else you guys want to talk? We still have Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: I always have something to say, no, but yeah, really quickly, Dennis, I wanted to also congratulate you about the designs, both for the merch. I'm actually wearing the white Aash Super Club t-shirt now. people Loved it. They also love the black one with the cloudy logo in the back. And the stickers, if they did a sticker competition in Cosmog, a cash would have won the number one. And I will tell you why. Neutron had really good stickers. But if you didn't know anything about the project, you wouldn't know they are from Neutron. But a cash stickers, they cover everything. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: the aesthetics was good, the material was very good, but also the reference to a cash network were also very very clear. So that's why for me the stickers got the first place as far as the best stickers go and just wanted to share that with the merch was really and many people passed by the booth and they were impressed by the stickers. They like the Falcon. They like the Bur Khalifa for the Dubai edition, but they also talk about the previous editions and how they were collecting the stamps and stuff about different places where a cashache has been. And quickly wanted to share that,… + +Robert Del Rey: really really good job that + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I heard some stories about stickers and people collecting them across different events. I should order maybe a couple of them just to have them stored for the archive somewhere. yeah, but it's good to hear. we have big plans for the whole merch in the next season. so we're probably going to introduce more designs, more items, different themes, and I think as far as I can hear from others and u you as well, those stickers are like a big hit. So we're just going to continue in the next season. + +Denis Lelic: with the whole new bunch of stickers for each of these events. + +Tyler Wright: + +Denis Lelic: So, we're just going to try to always do something unique. + +Tyler Wright: Shout out Dennis. + +Tyler Wright: One other thing real quick. just as a reminder if anybody here on the call or in the community whether it's live events in their own communities and other places again finds people that want to contribute whether it be visual communication content creation please point them in the direction of SIG design. I just saw there was a team that's interested in supporting I think they do 2D and 3D animation. + +Tyler Wright: but again we want to get as many of these teams to join the Discord channel, share their thoughts, ideas, portfolios, and then if they can join one of these live meetings where we can see where they can contribute and add value. I know Dennis is working on 9 million things, has meetings back to back. He still kills it. But again, any support that we can get, I know Dennis would greatly appreciate in terms of new marketing materials, branding, support materials, etc. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks it's not always that bad regards to meetings. Today is just one of those days where a lot of them happen back to back. + +Tyler Wright: That's right. + +Denis Lelic: I would appreciate any design help of course. So thanks and I'll make sure I'll join the next YouTube meeting. I know I said that a bunch of times but no gota got to be there. if you guys want to talk anything else, we do still have time. otherwise, we can just use this time to work on something else. but we'll see each other in 30 minutes in a different meeting. So clients all of you are invited. So see you there. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: And then maybe we'll talk about the blog around the Akash digest during the working group for the Akash website when maybe Bold Panther is there and… + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Bye-bye. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Tyler Wright: we can just talk about what a PR looks like, any design assets, etc. So, if not today at S Clients,… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: then we'll certainly see you hopefully tomorrow. And much appreciate everyone's time and energy. Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you guys. + +Robert Del Rey: See you tomorrow. + +Tyler Wright: All right. 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Scott provided a summary of key points discussed in the August meeting. + - Topics included the Provider Incentives program and updates on the Zealy campaign. + +- **Provider Incentives**: + - [Dashboard shared](https://lookerstudio.google.com/u/1/reporting/f2f8fe80-97cd-45cd-bbd0-17826eab5ae5/page/BIUND) to track community pool spending and provider incentives. + - Scott highlighted transparency in community pool spending, noting the creation of [reporting areas](https://github.com/akash-network/community/tree/main/community-pool-spend-reporting) for community pool-funded projects. + +- **Recent Proposals**: + - **Cosmos SDK 47**: A key proposal that passed, enabling funds and efforts to upgrade to Cosmos SDK 47. + - **Community Support Funding**: Approved, with community bounties to encourage contributions. Noted as a recurring proposal now in its seventh quarter. + - **Console 2.0 Proposal**: + - Cheng provided a detailed update on Console 2.0, focusing on cloud deployment and Akash payment integration, including trial wallets and credit card payment features. + - Currently in closed beta, the Console 2.0 platform aims to improve UX and streamline operations. + - Testing ongoing, with an expected release within a month or two. + +### Key Discussion Points +- **Provider Incentives Program (PIP)**: + - PIP Zero-One Summary: Initial PIP successfully allocated funds to bring providers on board, with all funds allocated as per the initial proposal. + - PIP Zero-Two: The new PIP will consolidate phases, focusing on expanding resources. Estimated budget: $10 million. + +- **Community Engagement**: + - Community proposals continue to be a priority, ensuring funds and bounties remain available for contributors. + - Encouragement to community members to bring forward ideas for leveraging the community pool for Akash Network growth. + +- **Console 2.0 Features**: + - Integration of credit card payments and free trials to remove barriers for Web2 developers unfamiliar with blockchain onboarding. + - Aim to reduce the learning curve by minimizing complexities related to crypto and wallet setup. + - Positive beta feedback, with initial partners engaging with Console 2.0’s trial features. + +### Community Contributions +- **Zealy Campaign**: + - Robert discussed the success of the Zealy campaign to incentivize participation in Akash Network activities. + - Secret words provided to attendees for extra points on Zealy. + - Plan to continue expanding the Zealy campaign, with community feedback being gathered for future improvements. + +- **Community Growth and Strategic Expansion**: + - Cheng mentioned the need for native Korean speakers to support Akash's expansion in the Asia-Pacific region. + - Community pool funding is structured to enable pilot projects with Overclock Labs’ support, which may migrate to community-funded initiatives after proven success. + +### Open Floor and Q&A +- **Community Pool Health**: + - Joao Luna raised questions on metrics for evaluating community pool health, suggesting a focus on effective fund allocation rather than simply growing the pool size. + - Cheng proposed using clear indicators like network utilization and specific project performance metrics to track ROI for funded initiatives. + - Scott highlighted community pool inflow mechanisms and current tax parameters for supporting community pool growth. + +- **Stable Payments and Token Pools**: + - Joao Luna and Cheng discussed stable payment integration challenges and the need for a unified approach to token pool security. + - Proposal to document a common methodology for handling token buffers and secure payment processing across platforms using Akash. + - Cheng suggested potential collaboration to co-author a specification document. + +### Closing Remarks +- Scott thanked the attendees and encouraged ongoing feedback and contributions. +- Call to action for anyone interested in contributing or bringing forth ideas to utilize the community pool for Akash Network’s development. + +## Action Items +- **Scott Hewitson**: + - Continue monitoring and reporting on community pool spending. + - Share updates on Console 2.0 progress, including trial feedback and UX improvements. +- **Cheng Wang**: + - Collaborate with Joao Luna on a joint document to standardize stable payment solutions and secure token buffer management. + - Prepare a draft for PIP Zero-Two to outline funding allocations and strategic priorities. +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Gather feedback from the community on the Zealy campaign to iterate on future incentivization strategies. + +# **Transcript** + +Scott Hewitson: Alrighty, Welcome everybody. It's October 9th for this month's installment of Sick, Economics. I know last month we had A low turnout, a lot of things going on. And so we didn't end up doing a full meeting or recording. So I'll kind of give a recap of August call and anything that's transpired. Since I know, Cheng will be jumping on the call soon, if he's got any updates, and then we can open the floor up to ideas and concerns or anything that anyone wants to talk about. with that, Let's start with. So the August call talked a little bit about the Provider Incentives program. There was a zeely campaign update. I know Robert may speak on that a little bit. + +Scott Hewitson: One action item. I had was to share the pit dashboard which I've done and I'll drop it right here. This is for provider incentives. And this is also in the community's pool spending reporting that I'll drop the link to as well trying to have folk anytime folks are using community pool funds and want to show a dashboard or just how they're spending. There's an area to do it. Let's see, from the proposal side. Since August. So there was the inflation update which we had talked about the last recorded call. There's been A + +Scott Hewitson: There is a proposal that went up to reduce the take rate for Akt and Usdc and maybe can talk a little bit about that in a moment. Then we had the effort for Cosmos Sdk47 that hit on chain and passed. So funds received, it's a big effort from Overclock and some core members to upgrade the Cosmos Sdk47. And then finally one that passed last week is just a quarterly for community support and those proposals have been going on. for I think six quarter seven quarters now. So that's your vanguard's bounties. Just smaller dollars to unlock community for contributions. And let's see what else we got. + +Scott Hewitson: From the standpoint of new discussions. I know Cheng dropped in another funding proposal for Console 2.0 and that's kind of in the same format as the Cosmos Sdk47 funding request. So I'll let him Talk about that in a moment. And I think that's kind of all as far as a recap. Does anyone want to bring up anything? + +Scott Hewitson: As of right now otherwise I can turn it over to a chain to talk about Cosmos. Just give a high level on the Cosmos Sdk47 prop and then this console 2.0 prop Yeah. All right, doesn't look like there's any questions so Cheng if you don't mind, can you talk a little bit about Sdk47 cause her console 2.0 props that we put up? Or will. + +Cheng Wang: For sure, Scott, thank you always for running it and great introduction and coverage there for the Cosmos Sdk47 proposal, as well, as the console 2.0 for cost payment specifically. So, Console 2.0 is a massive endeavor. If you guys look on the Github board, as far as what it covers, The first component of console 2.0 was done a little while ago, in terms of integrating the cloud nose acquisition in their software and everything to create a cohesive singular deployment experience, right? And that's kind of the new console constant 2.0. The second component is the akash payments and embedded within cost payments are + +Cheng Wang: Trial wallets, right? The kind of account abstraction loosely, if you can call it that as well as credit card payment features. So those are already in kind of a closed beta scenario and it's accessible and stuff like that. You guys want to tink around and play with it. Let us know. We can drop a link right and we'll ultimately hopefully push that live within the next month or two. Is the idea here you want to, obviously there's some UX revamp that we need to do make things a little better cleaner and just look nicer and operation smoother obviously and a lot of internal testing is going into this as well. And yeah. So the sdk47 stuff is I believe + +Cheng Wang: Feature complete, if not extremely close, it's now getting ready. Toled up for testnet, which will be finding engage some of the more technical insiders to really give it a go. The core engineering team is getting ready for that state. So hopefully, that should come within a week or two and so please say Keep an eye out for that. So yeah, those are the two items thus far and looking down the + + +### 00:05:00 + +Cheng Wang: Looking down the road a little bit. We'll have pip zero two that will put out for discussion and github. Probably will definitely this week, so I'm excited to launch that. As you. Thank you, Scott again for putting together the dashboard on Pipzero one. As you guys can see, we've maxed out we've committed to a kind of all the budget that was originally allocated. And those providers have, this endeavor I think the original proposal, rather, we started in February, we committed to our first contract in March, I don't say end of March. So we're reconciling all the invoices and stuff like that and of course, we'll share that data publicly as soon as we kind of gather all that stuff together as promise in the reporting and transparency side of things and for zero two it's going to be a larger tranche. We're anticipating a 10 million dollar tranche the first one was five million and the first pit actually was ructured supposedly it was discuss into three phases phase. One was the committed pool phase two. + +Cheng Wang: another liquidity pool component and then phase three, I believe was R&D. So kind of the future Gen chips if you will. So we're going to essentially not do phases, two and three. And in the new PIP, Zero two rolled, the R&D portion just into the committed pool because we realized that's the best way to go forward to for a guarantee period of time. Have to be stable not have kind of supply coming in and out, And that's the reason why we're going to just do phase one again just bigger this time. In PIP, Zero two and for liquidity Pool, Comparch portion, we're not going to do that yet because again, the verify compute is important for + +Cheng Wang: Obviously reasons as you've seen another copycats in the space, Simple attacks and fraud is rampant. if you can improve what you own and what you have on the network. So that's really important to us. We've been here at a college doing things. the community has been doing things in a very measured and the methodical fashion. We don't want to straight away from that and kind of get the sugar high of bringing on resources if they're not real. Number one, and number two we don't want to bring on resources that are unreliable. What we mean is this, in the liquidity pool structure, if there are a bunch of people contributing resources, those resources are by nature. Extremely + +Cheng Wang: It's a mixed bag right, it's heterogeneous, So if I'm a AI company looking to come in and deploy on 180 age, 100 or whatever it is. And even if I can call it together, a big network of those things, there's no guarantee that each one is structured, it's gonna be structured a little differently. So it's gonna be very, very hard for large customers to come in and they have been knocking on our door too. + +Cheng Wang: To get started with akash rate. So that's one part of it. Two is because of the ephemeral nature of liquidity pools, people can jump in and out. And that's of course, if you're deploying production workloads, you don't want your machines to just jump in and out whenever, right? Because you depend on it for your livelihood. And so as a result, all those things which I'll clearly outline in the upcoming github discussion we'll be outlined there and then obviously feedback and engagement from the communities. always, welcome. So I'm looking forward to having those lively discussions once again. And this time there are a lot of learnings that we took from the first pit. We'll leverage into the second one and this is going to be, a bigger size reason that it's gonna be bigger is like I mentioned there are people who have come to the core team and ask for more resources than the network currently has specifically in H100 categories. Yeah. So that's what I got there. I mean, if + +Cheng Wang: Any questions? + +Scott Hewitson: That's great. Thank you Cheng, for all that color on it. One thing I do want to bring up on pit. one as well, so we requested funds, we're setting up contracts with folks, but I want to call out that all funds that these providers are making are being sent back to the community pool. So, as of right now, we've spent 2.1 million dollars, that's spent to date and we've returned a hundred and fourteen thousand Akt. So around 25,300 grand. So it is community pool funding and any money that those providers do make. We want to make sure it goes back to the community. we're not doing it to Overclock, it's not doing it to make money. We're doing it to ensure. There's resources on the network that people can deploy to and have good resources. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Scott Hewitson: yeah, that's it for from one other thing, I wanted to call out from the standpoint of the Cosmos SDK proposal that Overclock put up as well as the console 2.0. that will go up. Luna 10 million It's is the number as of right now. So, we've been putting in these on those props. We called out like a liquidity buffer, just because Akt is volatile asset. So, there was some excess funds requested because all we care about is a US dollar amount. + +Scott Hewitson: I will say from Cosmos Sdk47 so we use a couple market makers. Some folks to help liquidate things and in a way that's not going to affect markets. I think that the request for Sdk47 was around 377 Grand and we had a, liquidation strategy in place. It just so happened. That Akt pump like crazy. And so we were able to lick liquidate over 400,000 in Akt. I think the actual request, the funds that we wanted was around, 250 K. So we over liquidated some funds but it was all during a pump. So tvd what we want to do with those leftover funds, I think it's about 180,000 but Cheng and I spoke internally and I think an idea an option is to basically put return funds back to the + +Scott Hewitson: You pull a stables so there's a chunk of stables in the community pool that people can request. I know, For some of the smaller requests, people don't want the exposure, they just want to, get funding. So I think that might be a good avenue. I've thought about it before. And, I've thought about just putting up a proposal to get a couple hundred grand and then liquidate it and throw it right back in. the community pool is kind of the community's treasury. So we can diversify that you look at Adam and Osmosis they've got some stable coins in their community pool as So I think that would be, Not really a happy mistake but it's making lemonade out of lemons. + +Scott Hewitson: So I think that's a way forward. I'll probably drop a note on it somewhere, but if anyone has any concerns or questions on that, feel free to the hit me up or drop a note and see economics and discord. For Console 2.0. It does have the liquidity buffer as well, but we're gonna make sure that once we hit our fiat, number it stops, and then those funds will return as Akt. But I just wanted everyone to be kind of aware of that. I think it's net good for the community pool. let's see. What else do I wanted to talk about? Yeah, I think that's kind of all I have at the moment Cheng. Is there any other items you want to talk about? For now. Okay. + +Cheng Wang: yes, I do Actually some were related to Sega economics, but more of a slight tangent, but I would do want to say in terms of more + +Cheng Wang: People within the community have been working more closely with the project and with the core team over time, So obviously we have some community stalls here. Ryan Robert who's been with us forever and others I see and Don't me For example, I see him on the call, he's a new joiner as far as within the greater apparatus of the Akash ecosystem and working more closely with the core team and using more so of the community pool to fun, some of these operations and, of course, Overclock labs has, been very, I think, open with, bringing people in and testing them and then if it works we'll go to the community pool. So the structure is largely been if there's a pilot program or something we want to start, we'll often test it with overclock treasury and if there's very tangible at us value, add to the community will migrate that to the community pool and make it completely public and open, obviously taking the risk initially of running the pilot. + +Cheng Wang: Internally first, but a lot of people have been joining and I'm super bullish on that. And so if there are folks, whatever your level of expertise, and if you're engaged in a caution want to help out in any way shape or form from the, marketing side to, talking about a college representing, a caution in any way shape or form online or otherwise, please let us know. We definitely are expanding our footprint more so because, a couple of months ago, we were listed on up and hit them in Korea. And that's a very important market for us as well, So, if there are folks out there who are native, Korean speakers or Korean natives, whatever it is. If anyone wants to make a connection or encourage those folks, to help join the accost Community, 100% welcoming with open arms as we build out, kind of an apac Asia-Pacific right strategy there. So + + +### 00:15:00 + +Cheng Wang: that's what I'd say in regards that please keep the community contributions coming and thank you all for being a part of this. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you Cheng for that update. Yeah. I think just to kind of quickly add on that. I think something that Akash does well that, contributes to our success is. There's so many different avenues for funding. There's different ways for people to contribute and get funds. nties, we've got a delegations, there's community pool stuff. there's always ways to get money at, and I think our community is a good job of weeding out those that are not versus providing value, so please continue to do so and really appreciate everyone's efforts. It's, Overclock is a small team, the community just, we wouldn't be able to do anything without the community. So I really really appreciate everyone and the efforts they're doing there. + +Scott Hewitson: that's all I really had. Does anyone want to bring anything forward or talk about any programs or any ideas? Yeah, Robert go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Also, thank you for those words guys before talking about silly, I quickly want to say that. I feel very happy thankful and proud for being part of this community. Luna early b s is here China. geez already but also it's good seeing new people coming in and saying Hey I want to be here and be part of this, in the case of Tommy, for example, a cash alpha, it's another one he's in his call as well. And yeah, yeah, so big props to everybody, I guess. Let's keep up that heat, right? So, yeah, I wanted to quickly. Talk you tell you about the Seek, Economics, working group called Mission on Silly. This is one of the missions that we have in this campaign, hopefully to + +Robert Del Rey: A motivated people to get involved in the different initiatives in their cash, ecosystem. We have, Sega economics. We have yesterday the community monthly call tomorrow. We have their cash website. Those are calls that we are incentiviring people for joining if they join. I will say They can take that secret word, go to Sealy, and get some extra points, which is good, But the main goal of that is hopefully we can make people get more involved in the different campaigns or initiative that we have. so the secret word for six economics, if you're listening guys, it's gonna be talking Like a cash, token token, T, o, k E N. And as in November, I will leave it in the shot, you can + +Robert Del Rey: or listen in the recording. Go to silly and be able to earn some extra XP points. Yeah, thank you. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you Robert and really great effort on the zeely thing. that just for everyone's aware I said it started out as a little pilot program we used bounty dollars for they had some success and went to the community pool requested some more funds and then did it again. So it's kind of proof that no matter where you start there's funding avenues to get you going. And yeah I mean I know there's been some good folks that are coming out of that program so really appreciate that. Robert + +Scott Hewitson: All right. Let's see, does anyone else have anything that else they'd like to bring up or any ideas or concerns or just that kind of anything at all? It's a open floor. we love here and ideas, we love Getting feedback and I'm trying to make things go a little bit better. + +Scott Hewitson: nothing today, okay. + +Joao Luna: I do have some really fun tomorrow like curiosity so How are we measuring or… + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. + +Joao Luna: Would you measure the health of a community pool? So Hey I can see the base image swear. Let's like this hobby is how much you spend versus how mature? Getting it in the community pool but I will tracking this are we measuring the healthiness or just looking at the fun. So many are there and not really looking. It's spelled sure over time. And I mean this a forecast of what we can expect to have on the community pool. Do you have any insights on that? + + +### 00:20:00 + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I mean I'll say go ahead Cheng. + +Cheng Wang: yeah, over you can go for indoors to go after you. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I was just gonna say, I mean, the community pool is filling at a rate, I think it's 40% tax right now, from inflation inflations currently at 13% so 40%, that's going to the community pool. It's continuously getting larger. for me, just kind of anecdotally. I look and see some of the other cosmos chains. I think caught or Adam has. Let's see what they have. They've got 43 million in that, we were sitting at 27 million osmosis that 38 million, because in theory, Overclock should just be one entity that is drawing from the community pool. We would love for many entities to be drawing from the community pool. And so it kind of hard from the standpoint of requesting or projecting. + +Scott Hewitson: I mean, we overclocked, we can kind of project what we're planning on asking, but as far as what anyone from the community comes up with, it'd be harder to get an idea on that I think, because we have parameter change proposals to, we can kind of turn the knobs. I mean, the community pool was not healthy at all, a year year and a half ago. we bumped up the tax and so now I'd say it's healthy right now. obviously there's a + +Joao Luna: I mean, when I say healthy, I don't mean it's getting bigger. And for me, Something that self is something that's being spent. Unlike useful stuff. As we are,… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. + +Joao Luna: the communities funds are being used in a smart way. + +Scott Hewitson: Like an ROI. + +Scott Hewitson: In Roi versus yeah. + +Joao Luna: Yeah, yeah,… + +Joao Luna: So that would be fun or… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. I, + +Joao Luna: interesting at least to have Some kind of metrics on these, we are spending at a rate where we can afford, through three years of continuous advanced in these specific areas. That's interesting to me. + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, I think if I can jump in quickly here, I see where you're going. And I think in order to do that, we're kind of doing this already and Scott's been doing all the heavy lifting behind this in terms of reporting where we're spending the money, So if you break it down into the different proposals the community and those OCL has been requesting for one part is. Let's just say + +Cheng Wang: Cosmos SDK a cost payments. Those are features, right? That are going to be released like Sdk47, maybe a little bit harder to judge, but let's just say, as far as, direct measurable impact. But, let's just say with s, the free trial, as well as the credit card payments, if it's successful over the next couple of quarters. Once it's launched, we should see utilization increased dramatically And so currently one of our hypotheses is that a lot of people who come into the network looking for compute, run into this big wall. I mean, I'm sure you guys all recall, Fondly or not. When we all got started in crypto, It was a little bit of a trial, He had to figure a lot of stuff out. I know. I have sent a random transaction or into the ether and just disappeared, I mean and made some mistakes. So, with a Web 2 developer, you can imagine, they don't want anything to do with crypto or they just don't want to engage in this mental. + +Cheng Wang: Exercise. You have to start a wall-e. Have to write down a seed phrase. What the hell is a seed phrase? Don't have to store this somewhere. what, all the stuff is super taxing for the person individual, right? Or people? And so if our hypothesis is correct, and this is a feature that works. then we should see utilization leases, as well as spend go up consistently over time. Once this feature is released, That's one part. I can say anecdotally since this is in beta and we've been testing it, the feedback has been quite good What it has enabled us to do is share the free trial link to partners who potentially want to use the caution they can literally get started. There's one person who am I met in New York and I'm sorry. May not want to get Dropping this thing and immediately was able to get the trial and get started and just start to play around with things without us coming to us. Hey set up a wallet. We'll send you some Akt but blah so it's already. I think paying some dividends but I think + + +### 00:25:00 + +Cheng Wang: R's, direct output. That's what we can expect to see from Another one out, and I'll just put a pin in from as an example. Is provider incentives, one, right? That was a big one. Five million bucks. Probably is one of the biggest things we ever done is Have we been able to successfully bring on a good bunch of GPUs onto network? I think we have Number two. How were they lize? So I think the a6000s are over 50% utilized. If not more on average, Quite consistently by one of a big partner, in neural that we were able to partner up with and deploy their workloads on the H100s via Venice, And others, I think those h100 are 75 if not 80 plus percent utilize there. So that's been really powerful and the 490s I think have been fluctuating a little bit, and the most expensive resource tier that we were able to get through this particular program on the network has been able to one baseline, get our GP. + +Cheng Wang: Count up, right? And those GPU accounts are unlike some other places anyway, I digress. and then the second of all the utilization has been quite good. Enabling us right to work with some partners that we wouldn't have been able to otherwise. And they've been able to, obviously drive network, spend up, obviously, fluctuates between three and five K, but it's been able to steadily ratchet up over time, if you look at the stats out of Koschigo proof point as far as the success there. It's not all woven together, but I think those are some examples and I can give and last one I know I said before but the two other ones would be cloud, most and prayer. So obviously the cloud most acquisition, we're able to integrate. The cloud, most experience with the cost experience to create one native console and I think that has paid dividends the console looks way better and way more functional than previously, we don't have two different places that people have to go to, which is a good thing that unlocks the ability to develop + +Cheng Wang: Payment solution, right? for constitute auto and I think that's great and preter as far as working on more features that will allow for better and more seamless. Provider management. lots of some stuff has come through that already I don't know who among you here are aware of it, but essentially enabling providers to set up a Kubernetes cluster much faster than they historically, or instead of taking hours, It takes minutes, right? So that's another thing. And hopefully, I mean, you guys, if you follow Github, There are As I think already out there. Hopefully they'll be merged into course soon and we'll have a truly. I think payments, it takes precedent, but once that's done, we'll be able to actually deliver. Hopefully, by before the end of the year, a truly cohesive console that has a tenant portal and a provider portal all in one place. So you can kind of move between the two and + +Cheng Wang: I think those are some good things, And that'll hopefully Let providers manage their stuff on a console versus right now. You have to do everything quite manually. So that'll be exciting. So those are my long-winded examples of I think What we've requested versus what the impact and the positive impacts are And obviously community events as well, but that's a little bit different. Hope that helps. + +Joao Luna: That made total sense. And that leaves was second question. Your example, at least after the first one you gave and let me know if it's out of scope for this special interest group perhaps can get a little bit technical. + +Joao Luna: the fiat payments that you have moment. must somehow used a pool of tokens to operate on powerful user. I have this idea we have implemented stable payments for the Akash network on our classroom as well. So we've been running through it and our implementation uses the pool of tokens that used Whenever user doesn't operation and there's this pullbacks the whole platform and abstract and it's abstracted by the stable payments. Is this pool on your side? Being funded? By the community pool. Somehow is Overclock Labs. Hosting these tokens and feeding the platform. How are you handling it? + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, great question. and the current way we're doing it is + +Cheng Wang: At least initially, while this is getting kicked off the ground. The fastest way is exactly how you illustrate. It is Overclock labs. We'll put a portion of his treasury towards enabling this to function. So that's going to mean number one like Akt tokens, right? and the Overclock Labs Organization will absorb any potential exchange differences, Because, when someone comes in and they buy a thousand dollars worth of credits that $1,000 can go up or down, in Akt terms, right? And so, if it moves against us, we'll eat that difference. If it goes the other way, great less Akt out the door. so that's going to be the bridge temporarily. So as far as how will migrate later on to, I would love to potentially migrate to, stable payments, right? Because still it creates back to Akt… + + +### 00:30:00 + +Joao Luna: Okay. Yeah. + +Cheng Wang: because of the take great. It'll just be a lot less volatility, Because a dollar is a dollar as a dollar unless there's + +Cheng Wang: Tag. And… + +Joao Luna: But then all the providers must support that, right? + +Cheng Wang: then we + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, I think we'll have to migrate towards a standard Maybe but I think the options are open there and of course, another thing that's like, down the pike potentially, I don't want to overstate for the core team. Don't let Archer hear this is pack your forwarding right? That wouldn't enable. Hopefully a more streamlined or seamless use of stable payments on Akash, Because certainly the usdc is kind of wonky, right? The to get it in the way to unwind it. It's kind of painful. but beyond that, I'd say, in the interim Overclock Labs Treasury is creating that exchange pool to enable credit card payments. And then, in the future, we'll have to think about different Mitigants potentially creating separate pools, using community funds to help create that, buffer, whatever the case of me, right? I think those are our future problems that future. + +Cheng Wang: Akash will solve, but right now is going to be this + +Joao Luna: I mean, I have a lot of interest on this topic, I'm not sure it's just fall around Have some kind of Blog posts are detailed specification of how this could be implemented. Because it was so yeti. Is that you've sold the problem? I've solved the problem. + +Cheng Wang: Good idea. + +Joao Luna: I'm pretty sure other platforms that use the Akash network and had stable payments solve this problem. Perhaps you can achieve a common specification on how this must be done. And for instance, if we are so to support usdc pools and application saying, providers must Have usdc support if they want to benefit from the staple payments and be more adopted on these third-party platforms. The idea is just to not lose efforts solving the same problems on different teams because these takes time,… + +Cheng Wang: That's fair. + +Joao Luna: it's not a difficult problem, but It takes expertise, and perhaps could be useful, just a proposal. To Do This document, + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if You down for a co-authoring, a piece Luna, let's do it. + +Joao Luna: I mean, sure that's let's talk and see. + +Cheng Wang: Let's do it. Yeah, yeah. Great idea. I love it. I think we should do it. + +Scott Hewitson: And just to add on that. I mean, Once those that comes all that code will be open source. Correct Cheng or I mean, aside from the actual payment side because I know there's integration with stripe but everything leading up to a person's ID and… + +Cheng Wang: Yeah. Yeah. + +Scott Hewitson: credit cards should be open, source and theory. + +Cheng Wang: That's Yeah, obviously the payment processing and stuff. That has to be private. Someone has to hold the final person to hold the hot potato. if someone does anything bad and we need to go pursue somebody, right Overclock Labs, holds the final potato. + +Joao Luna: Yeah, but I mean even the security of the keys to these pools and… + +Scott Hewitson: Right out. + +Joao Luna: buffers of tokens, perhaps that could be a specification on how you should secure, how I should handle this and be like a common on this broad platforms. + +Cheng Wang: Very point. Yeah, for Yeah. Because it's not trivial. Yeah. + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, no. Thank you for that Luna and looking forward to seeing what you and Cheng come up with should be good. Does anyone else have anything or Luna? Do you want to talk anymore about that or anything else before we move… + +Joao Luna: So I'm good. + +Scott Hewitson: Okay, awesome. + +Joao Luna: Thank you. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you. As always, I mean, you're, an OG contributor and really appreciate everything you're doing, you're helping progress the space forward. So Much kudos to you. Alrighty. Is there anyone else that wants to up Call anything out. Tell me where I'm being done. Anything like that. The floor is open. + + +### 00:35:00 + +Scott Hewitson: I changed you have anything else you want to add? If not, we can cut, the call short, 20 minutes. + +Cheng Wang: I'm good. + +Scott Hewitson: Give everybody 20 minutes back. + +Cheng Wang: Thank you all. Thank you Scott. + +Scott Hewitson: Alrighty, appreciate everybody and yeah, let me know if you need anything, if you ever have any ideas or anything at all, please drop into SIG economics. I think I said it before, I'll say it again. we love good ideas. We love unblocking folks so they can build out their good ideas. So Yeah. With that. I hope everyone has a good day and we'll talk soon. + +Joao Luna: Thank… + +Cheng Wang: Take care, everyone. See you next time. + +Joao Luna: Have a good day and stay safe from the Hurricanes and… + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks. + +Cheng Wang: See everyone. Thank you. + +Joao Luna: all that. + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:36:06 👋 diff --git a/sig-economics/meetings/021-2024-11-06.md b/sig-economics/meetings/021-2024-11-06.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..fabfee8e --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-economics/meetings/021-2024-11-06.md @@ -0,0 +1,126 @@ +# Akash Network - Economics Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #21 + +## Agenda +- Updates on PIP 02 (Provider Incentives Program) +- Community provider participation and guidelines +- General updates and open floor discussion + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 06, 2024 +- Time: 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://spb2lgjfo22rkltiontajya63on7vc5jg4i77hnsngjdj5xyfkra.arweave.net/k8OlmSV2tRUuaHNmBOAe25v6i6k3Ef-dsmmSNPb4KqI) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Scott Hewitson +- Cheng Wang +- Rodri R +- James + + +## Meeting Notes + +### Updates +- **PIP 02 Overview**: + - [Passed on-chain](https://www.mintscan.io/akash/proposals/273) and through the steering committee, with a significant allocation of AKT aimed at bringing more supply to the network. + - It is the largest community spend proposal to date. + +- **Community Provider Amendment**: + - Amendment added to PIP 02 based on community feedback. + - **Allocation**: $1 million (10% of total PIP 02 funds) reserved for community providers. + - **Eligibility Criteria**: + - Strict requirements for resource quality, reliability, and availability. + - Designed to maintain high standards and ensure a positive user experience. + - **Distribution Details**: + - Funds to be allocated on a first-come, first-served basis. + - Maximum cap of $250,000 per community provider to ensure equitable distribution. + +- **Provider Resources**: + - Target resources include H100s, A6000s, and 4090s GPUs. + - Details on resource requirements and application guidelines available in the GitHub discussion. + +### General Discussion +- **PIP 01 Impact**: + - Observed positive impact on daily network spend, indicating successful implementation and demand growth. + +- **Community Feedback**: + - Encouragement for community members to engage with SIG Economics via Discord, Twitter, or GitHub. + - Emphasis on maintaining open communication and leveraging community ideas for network development. + +### Closing Remarks +- Smaller group attendance for this meeting, with fewer updates to discuss. +- Acknowledgment of the community's ongoing contributions and engagement. +- Recording and notes to be uploaded to GitHub for wider access. + +## Action Items +- **Scott Hewitson**: + - Continue monitoring and reporting on the implementation of PIP 02. +- **Cheng Wang**: + - Facilitate communication with interested community providers and guide them through the application process. + - Provide ongoing updates on PIP 02 progress and resource allocation. +- **Community Members**: + - Review [PIP 02 documentation](https://github.com/orgs/akash-network/discussions/696) and apply for community provider funding if eligible. + - Share feedback and ideas through SIG Economics channels. + +# **Transcript** + +Scott Hewitson: All right, everybody. It is November 6th. + +Scott Hewitson: we have it recorded for those that can't attend today and this along with notes will be up in GitHub. I just looked there's kind of a backlog from couple sig economics. So I'll make sure that those notes get updated as well as this one. last talk wasn't a whole lot going on. we talked a little bit about PIP 2, the provider incentives pilot, which has since gone on chain and it passed yesterday was also discussed at steering committee. so has a large chunk of AKT going to bringing on more supply. another prop that recently passed was the Q4 events which passed on Monday I believe. + +Scott Hewitson: + +Scott Hewitson: As always all the reporting on all that is in the GitHub repository for community pool spend requests. we tried to at least from overclock side anyone who anytime we put up proposals want to make sure that we're reporting on it staying in the good graces of the community. All this it's all community dollars. So we have a right to do that an obligation to do that as well. let's see. There was the metam or the final payment for Mystic Labs. if you recall, they had put up a vote for an AKT amount versus a dollar amount. They've since changed that and it passed as well. + +Cheng Wang: + +Scott Hewitson: Yeah, I think that's kind of the major points. Chang, do you want to talk anything about PIP02 at all? just because it is the biggest a community spend prop that's occurred to date. + +Cheng Wang: Yeah, for sure. + +Cheng Wang: For PIP02, one of the things to keep in mind later on addition was the community provider amendment, if you could call it that was edited in the original post where based on feedback from several community members about wanting to be eligible for PIP02 funds from PIP02. + +Cheng Wang: we amended a portion to say 5 to 10% of the total funds available would be allocated to community providers aka those who aren't running data centers as a service right of course there are very strict requirements for availability quality and things like that so I wouldn't want to rehash the language there but please go ahead and take a look at the links that you drop to see that updated language both on chain as well as on GitHub there and the short of it is 10% + +Cheng Wang: % which is a million dollars effectively of the total PIP02 funds will be allocated toward on a come first- serve basis to community providers who want to put their name in the ring and the points of assessment like how we will assess their eligibility will be based on quality, density, reliability all these kind of areas to where we can make sure that all the resources that are brought on my + +Cheng Wang: community providers are of the quality and robustness that potential partners would want to see right in the network because one of the things we have to really ensure is despite the really meteoric growth and a cautious demand at this point in time in fees is one of the things that is stability quality availability all those kind of things so if we have providers who are going to bring resources that u might go down unreliable aren't the quality + +Cheng Wang: not performant as the same GPUs elsewhere will be then that could impact brand quite negatively right and also decrease the user experience so that's something we definitely want to mitigate and we'll likely allocate the million dollars so it's a million dollars in total to community providers it's going to be on a come first-s serve basis point number two point number three is we'll likely limit it to $250,000 right, per community provider such that there's no overwhelm one person taking the entire slice and whatnot, and we'll see kind of how that goes. And anyone who's interested, please reach out to us on Discord, Twitter, email, whatever the case may be. GitHub and we can obviously have these conversations to bring those resources on. And as far as the type of resources, those are of course posted in the GitHub discussion as well. + +Cheng Wang: + +Cheng Wang: So namely H100s, I think some A6000s, 4090s, … + +Scott Hewitson: Thank you for that for the context and… + + +### 00:05:00 + +Cheng Wang: are in the loop as well. So definitely reach out to us and let us know if you are interested. + +Scott Hewitson: the additional color on PIP 02. I think we've had a good I'll say response with PIP01. I mean you just look at daily spend it's going crazy. So hopefully we can build on it and move things a little bit further further in this two-sided marketplace. okay so any going off of PIP don't need to talk about that unless anyone has any questions. I know it's just a small group with us today. + +Scott Hewitson: Does anyone in the group have any questions or any ideas or comments or concerns related to SIG economics? if so, feel free to raise your hand or drop it into chat. I'll just give a couple seconds in case anyone wants to say anything. All right. yeah, we got smaller group today. not a ton of huge major updates, so I think we can cut things a little early. as always, thank you for joining in on these calls. and those that are not here, thank you for listening in. if you have any questions or concerns or anything, please go to the Discord and drop into SIG Economics and, feel free to tag me at hey Huey. + +Scott Hewitson: if you had any ideas, we're always open to ideas and … + +Cheng Wang: + +Scott Hewitson: we get a ton of things from the community members. So, always have our ears to the ground for that. but with that, I hope everyone has a good rest of your day and I'm going to end the recording. Thanks y'all. + +Rodri R: You guys. Thanks + +Cheng Wang: So, it's Thank you everybody. + +Cheng Wang: All And there we go. Thanks guys. + +Scott Hewitson: All right. + +Cheng Wang: You in the metaverse. Hey. + +Scott Hewitson: Yep. Have a good one. Take care. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:07:14 👋 + diff --git a/sig-providers/README.md b/sig-providers/README.md index 31598339..df50672f 100644 --- a/sig-providers/README.md +++ b/sig-providers/README.md @@ -35,8 +35,8 @@ Provider SIG covers everything pertinent to Providers on Akash Network. 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Awaiting triage from the engineering team. + 2. **Discount Scheme:** Implemented a staking-based discount scheme for providers, allowing users to receive discounts based on their staked Akt. + - Suggested it could be highlighted in a blog for wider awareness. Tyler agreed to follow up on this. + +- **GPU Labeling & Scaling Concern (Andrew Mello):** + - Criticized the manual process of labeling GPUs, calling for automation using Nvidia APIs. + - Warned that the current approach could hinder scalability, especially as the provider network grows. + - Tyler acknowledged the concern and promised to follow up with the core engineering team for clarification and feedback on why the automated solution wasn’t pursued. + +- **Open Discussion:** + - Tyler reminded participants to check the provider announcements channel regularly for updates. + - Discussed a recent message about the “Kill zombie parent script” in the provider announcements channel. + +- **Closing Remarks by Tyler Wright:** + - Action items from the meeting will be followed up in subsequent SIG meetings or asynchronously in relevant channels. + - Thanked everyone for their participation and reminded them of the steering committee meeting happening the next day. + +## Action Items +- **Jigar & Deval:** Continue testing Akash Console 2.0 and provide updates to the provider channel as the beta phase approaches. +- **Tyler Wright:** Follow up with Andrew on the discount scheme blog post and ensure its wider publication. +- **Tyler Wright:** Provide clarification on the decision to avoid Nvidia API integration for GPU labeling. +- **Andrew Mello:** Reshare details of the staking-based discount scheme with Tyler for further review and publication. +- **All Providers:** Regularly check the provider announcements channel for important updates. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody. To providers monthly meeting for September. + +Tyler Wright: Over 25th 2024 during this special interest group for providers. The ecosh community, talked about anything related to their cost provider. Sometimes we talk about pooling upgrades the Previously again a team led by Jigarette Ball built a tool called Prater. that is now a part of Akash console. So they've given us updates on all the work that they've been doing great and again and now around to cost console and then be opened up to any conversations from anybody on the call in the community. I know that there's been some talk about provider configs for the cost, I work out. So again I'm not sure the person is not currently here, but that might be something that we talked about later on. But yeah, again all of the meetings are + +Tyler Wright: Hub under the providers subfolder in the community repo. But usually again I'll just hand it over to maybe Jigger and Deval to talk about how things are going with the provider portion of a cost console which they're working on. That's a part of their console 2.0 work. So Jigarette device kick it over to you to just give the community an update and all the things that you're got going on. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, thanks, Yeah, so we are currently working on the process of becoming a provider in There is a working progress, PR that is across console Github. And currently where we are, testing internally of the whole new PCs process with the multi note and different personality around it. And we are confident that it's going in the right direction. And yeah, we'll meet us soon to test it out. + +Jigar Patel: And then, if that guy's successfully tested any boxes, books are fixed. Then we'll erase that to the public. But yeah, the progress is going good. And I'm thankful to Scott with his hair upon k3s scripts, the process become easier and we're like taking that itself bits and pieces of that script into our process on. That makes three years multinod. So that was the biggest change in our process where for multinodes we were using KAS, which was having process we had to do. + +Jigar Patel: A lot of installations and processes on the provider side, which now is okay. Here is much simpler and lightweight. And yeah, we're experimenting with that. Yeah, once that's in a beta, will put update into the ecosystem better and into the provider channel as well. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank you there. does anyone have any questions on update from Jigaron? Duval on the work? They're doing around the provider side of the cosh Council which again is currently pay to work. + +Tyler Wright: One question, I think you all have talked about this previously, jigar, but have you all started to think about a migration path. If there's one necessary from prey tour to their trash console, or people got to spin down resources and spin them back up. Yeah, the console, when it's in proud, + +Jigar Patel: so if they are already on a single node, that might be a way to Migrate them to the new console, but if there are no multinode or structure where Kate s is used then. Yes, there will They need to, take it down and I think everybody can add more on this topic. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Go ahead. Deval + +Deval Patel: In the migration path, there is nothing much to do because then what happens is that the behind the scene, they're providers running, right? And what we support after becoming, the provider is just adding the attributes and, changing a few things here and that we give the upgrade path as well. So that should not be any issue going forward, But yeah, I don't think so, we need to migrate them from CAs process to Kts, right? But behind the scene posts, both uses the Kubernetes, keep CDL. Right? So we can run commands, or we can upgrade the hand charts and do things by that, right? So yeah. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. Go ahead. Jigar. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, so some of the functionality will be only Let's say adding a node or doing node, which is not available in predator right now, right? So for that, yes, they need to upgrade in a future, But to continue using the provider as it and current state, they don't need to because we were able to update the library's as long as they are on a helm chart. They were able to do Pretty much upgrading the provided self or restarting, the provider. So those functions will be intact and they will be able to use that into the new process as well. It just something that is Kubernetes related functionality. That will be added later on will not be available to them. + +Tyler Wright: All Thank you very much. Any other questions for jigarette Deval Before we move on. + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: Hey guys, hope everybody is feeling. Okay. yeah, I have a question for the page or team cigar and deval + +Robert Del Rey: I'm pretty sure you're aware about where we're doing the Cash City Working Group. We have missions. We motivate people to test out the cash and we reward them. Anyway, in the working group, we were thinking about having a great information. And I wanted to ask you guys Are there any key features you want people to test out? And the reason why I asked that is specifically, it's because we can do a mission about go to Prater and do this and then write your feedback and we can add a form so we could get I guess some comments and some people testing later. So that's why I went to ask which key features, I don't know. They could test out + +Jigar Patel: Hey, thanks Robert. Yeah, absolutely. We are open to that but I wanted to just put it here that let's do testing on the new provider console that what we are working on, right? Because we will be stop working on the older printer provider, So most guys available in beta, I'll reach out to you for silly and I'll join the silly working group as well to discuss more on that. + +Robert Del Rey: Here, that's great. If you don't mind, I can also send you a message and… + +Jigar Patel: Absolutely absolutely. + +Robert Del Rey: we can take the Thank you so much in the next question is. I believe I can keep this question for later since you have plans on migrating to console. But I wanted to ask you if I were to do a video about greater What other things you would like to highlight about it? + +Jigar Patel: Are human like the functionality device. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. I mean, there are videos about how to become a provider using Prater. So I wanted to know if you have other ideas about other type of videos we could do about Prater. + +Jigar Patel: Yeah, I think once we go live with the new console provider, I think that would be great because the process and the screens and will be changed. Then what we had in previously, right? So to presentation of the memories and to have a newer, information through videos, That would be great, So, yeah, I think once we have some kind of beta, you and me, what we can like to a meeting and then I'll show you how this works. And then you can make a video on it so the public how this whole process works. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Right, that sounds really cool. Thanks, That's all for me from now. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you Jigarette and Deval for the update, again, we'll look for more updates and Rider Praetor and other channel channels I'm sure as we get to the Beta phase. Cool. His ears must have been ringing because I know that Andrew, who's on the call today has been talking. The providers channel actually made some issues around some things. He talked about in the last six support meeting, but since again, made some issues around some of the behavior that he's seen. And again, I think the members of the core engineering team are going to do some continue testing. And then again, at the next six support meeting, if not prior it will get triage and there'll be some comments made. + +Tyler Wright: Andrew not to put you on the spot, but I know that your tend to be vocal. I just want to see if you want to talk about any stuff that you can talk about in the providers channel. or if there's anything else you want to talk about specifically? Because I think we had come to that part of the agenda for open discussion. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, hi everyone. Can you hear me? Okay, I'm on a different connection today. + +Tyler Wright: Yes. + +Andrew Mello: Okay, great. My first point of order was gonna be the support issue that is remaining open for providers. That basically any node in the cluster, that's tainted. As non-schedule is still bidding on the network. And again, that's still sitting there. I believe a waiting triage since last week, which would be one of my major concerns and then additional to that today. I don't have the ability to share this right now with you guys, but I did kind of want to bring this up on the call with everyone this week. I was able to implement for the first time, ever discounts for users on providers. And this is particular to the crypto and coffee providers. And the ones that I run + +Andrew Mello: Basically the scheme is going to be set up like this that by staking a specific amount of Akt on the crypto and coffee, validator, That is taking those coins. Will automatically receive discounts when deploying against the nine providers that I run. So I was actually looking for to let you guys know that that's coming, but be also a little bit of direction in terms of where we could publish that. I have a full page devoted to this that I just have yet to launch. And when I launched that page the page is basically the instructions. The tiers that, you get your discount for staking x amount of coin. this is a really nice potential. blog piece or for the homepage kind of thing because it really solves discounts. I mean, we've never been able to give away, + +Andrew Mello: Accounts, and things of that nature. So it's unique way to approach the problem. It's live right now and once I would love again, Tyler, just a little bit of guidance of where you think I should bring that to light and bring that out and make people aware because without awareness, it doesn't do much good. So, + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I can get some additional insights. I would say The blog makes the most sense because that'll be the most far-reaching. I think, on the website, there is a way to just make a blog or you can share with me or in a public channel, kind of like a DOC version of the blog and… + +Andrew Mello: Yes, it just Tyler. + +Tyler Wright: then we can work on getting it out to the site. + +Andrew Mello: Just for context. I did share that with you a few days ago, if you look back. So if you could just follow up with me on that, take a deeper look at it know that I am gonna publish that to Github and my website, they're gonna appear on both, but I want to get it into the hands of users, Because it's really pretty cool. Again, steak a few thousand Akt and you can get, double digit percentage discounts on the providers. So pretty, nice incentive for people to keep taking Akt. And also again, some of our larger holders are gonna have some really nice discounts on compute + + +### 00:15:00 + +Tyler Wright: That's Andrew. If you can just read a share that with me, I'm looking through our thread and not finding right now so if you can reshare that with me, I'll make sure that it gets looked at and shared more widely. + +Andrew Mello: I will. Yep. And again, just please don't forget. The providers are bidding when they should not and that is Pretty weird. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Any thoughts or questions about anything that Andrew was just talking about? + +Tyler Wright: All right I wanted to see if there's anything else on the provider side that anybody else wanted to discuss today. Just want to see if there's anything else that anybody wanted to bring up. + +Tyler Wright: If not, I would just remind everybody to always look at the provider announcements. Again, If you're an active provider on the cash marketplace, please look at the providers announcements channel. I think Andy and others share messages. So again, since our last meeting I think there was a message around the Kill zombie parents grip. So again, if you are an active provider again, please look at that channel or if you need access to that channel for whatever reason, please reach out to myself, Tyler Core team or any other members of the court team or cautious insiders to get a roll update. + +Tyler Wright: If there's nothing else, then you all can have some time back again. I'll follow up and look for that Doc from Andrew Mello. I'm sure the Core Engineering team will continue to follow up on some of those issues that are waiting. Triage again, we usually trust issues on a monthly basis but for some of these pressing issues, we can push along a little bit faster. again, please again, if you see anything on the network, continue to testing, bring insiders. And again, if there's an issue, we can escalate it and create an issue inside the support repo. + +Tyler Wright: Much appreciate bigger and deval for all the work that they've been doing in the updates that they provided around the work that they're doing on Console 2.0 Again. There will be some announcements made shortly across a number of different channels. Again, look out for announcements that Andrew has about some of the work that he's been doing and continues to work on. Go ahead, Andrew. + +Andrew Mello: Sorry for the delay here, but I actually did have one other point of order to bring up because it doesn't seem to be getting much movement attraction. Namely the major issue of manually labeling GPUs is something that again is + +Andrew Mello: Creating a demonstratively difficult situation as we continue to evolve here and the real, right way to do things is to use the Nvidia APIs that become available. Once the helm charts are deployed and just read from those API endpoints, the users GPU information and all of the details that already exist on cluster. And I'm just getting concerned that I am not seeing any effort direction motivation, or understanding really that this data that we're asking users to. + +Andrew Mello: manually collect and put together themselves and create the situation where we're basically slowing our expansion, unnecessarily and the real solve for this is to simply have the operator inventory, read the Nvidia, API endpoints that are available on the cluster. Now taking that to the next Level I have working solutions for this. I have working solutions. I have no where to go or implement this or see anyone kind of taking on how we're gonna do GPUs, right at scale. So I just wanted to kind of put that out there for the providers that Again if that there is a better way to add GPUs, the data is all available on cluster and + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: Where would I go to get this going in the right direction because again, the issues with manually adding GPUs are substantial and greatly outweigh the issues of simply reading the GPUs from, the API endpoints and using the existing NVIDIA validation and video validation software to verify that the GPUs is the thing we should be doing. So that is something that again has been a change since this spring that been resolved and not adequately addressed + +Tyler Wright: Thank you for sharing. What I can do is again, I know that there have been updates to the process on the manual process right now. I know that's not what you're looking for. I can share some feedback because again, the core engineering team had already looked into the solution that you're described and decided not to move forward with it. I can provide you in an appropriate providers or providers channel sometimes soon directly from record engineers. So why that is and then maybe you can provide a demo and we can talk async about some of the next steps. But again, there was a clear decision made not to move forward in that direction. I don't want to go into it right now but I'll make sure that you get the adequate information that you're looking for. + +Andrew Mello: Just to have it on the record here. It's very very Difficult now, to scale providers due to the way that GPUs are implemented. And I do not feel that this process is in any way made anything better for the provider or the user, and their ability to validate the GPU, is the GPU particularly because once again a special with new providers, who are inexperienced have Understanding of the complexity of the inventory operator, the inventory operator, that was is Quite simply puts a very disappointing this year of its function. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you Andrew, for that feedback. Again, I had an action item and we'll take some necessary steps between meetings and follow up in Next meeting with some at least updates from the community but much appreciate that. + +Andrew Mello: And just to put a bow on that to make sure everyone's very aware of why my concern is so high for this. scaling scaling Right. 50 providers is a drop in the bucket of kind of early startup days. But when we get to 500 providers, when we when we get to 50,000 providers, we cannot get there. Adding one GPU at a time. Thank you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Is there any other discussion topics that anybody wants to bring up here on the stick providers call? + +Tyler Wright: If not. Then, again, there's a number of action items that will handle continue push forward between meetings, much appreciate everybody's participation again. I'll see you all next month. There's a steering committee meeting happening tomorrow, I believe, but I get much appreciated. Everyone's opinions, thoughts, be back hard, work etc. Yeah. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day and we'll continue to work together and talk online. Appreciate you. + +Andrey Arapov: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:24:22 + diff --git a/sig-providers/meetings/022-2024-10-30.md b/sig-providers/meetings/022-2024-10-30.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8b6cbc7d --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-providers/meetings/022-2024-10-30.md @@ -0,0 +1,218 @@ +# Akash Network - Providers Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #22 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Praetor team developments +- Provider Console Beta progress and demonstration +- Discussion on PIP-02 proposal and provider incentives pilot +- Updates on trial accounts and white-listed providers +- Open issues, including tainted nodes and operator inventory bugs +- Announcements and follow-ups + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://efcdb25mxpxjedpogrnl4gcabiiqrsgfyikp3jxo5dxlucpzlnmq.arweave.net/IUQw66y77pIN7jRavhhAChEIyMXCFP2m7ujuugn5W1k) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Jigar Patel +- Deval Patel +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrew Mello +- Cheng Wang +- Zeke Ezagui +- Rodri R +- Vigneshwar Viswanathan +- B S +- Vontario Taylor +- Andrey Arapov + +## Meeting Notes + +### Provider Console Beta Updates +- **Jigar Patel:** + - Demonstrated the new Provider Console Beta. + - Walkthrough of provider setup using the console: + - Connect wallet using Keplr or Leap Wallet. + - Set up provider details including control machine configuration, pricing, and cluster initialization. + - Improvements include simplified K3S integration for both single and multi-node setups. + - Enhanced features for dashboard viewing and attribute management. + - Public testing of the beta to commence after PR review and merge. + +### PIP-02 Proposal Discussion +- The PIP-02 provider incentives pilot proposal is on-chain for voting. +- Participants encouraged to discuss and provide feedback on the GitHub discussion page. +- Potential follow-up during the steering committee for additional clarification. + +### Trial Accounts on Akash +- **Scott Carruthers:** + - Explained the introduction of trial accounts, similar to AWS free-tier. + - Trial accounts currently restricted to white-listed providers to ensure stability. + - Providers hosting trial accounts will receive AKT compensation. + - Increased network bid activity linked to trial accounts noted. + - Open invitation for community providers to join the white list. + +### Open Issues +- **Tainted Nodes Bidding Issue** + - **Raised by:** Andrew Mello + - Issue #253 affecting first-time deployments remains unresolved. + - Prioritized but delayed due to focus on other critical stability issues. + - Commitment to revisiting the issue and providing updates. + +- **Operator Inventory Bug** + - Mixed GPU cluster issues in available versus allocatable resources. + - Andrew to file a detailed bug report for further triage. + +### Announcements +- Upcoming Cosmos SDK upgrade and related testing. +- Participants reminded to monitor the provider announcement channel for updates. +- Continued efforts to streamline the provider onboarding and deployment processes. + +## Closing Remarks +- Tyler Wright thanked participants for their contributions. +- Encouragement to remain active in discussions and follow announcements. +- Meeting adjourned with reminders for next steps and follow-ups. + +## Action Items +- **Jigar Patel and Deval Patel** + - Proceed with finalizing Provider Console Beta and initiate public testing. + +- **Scott Carruthers** + - Engage with interested community providers about joining the trial account white list. + +- **Andrew Mello** + - File the new operator inventory bug. + - Attend the SIG Support call for deeper discussion on ongoing issues. + +- **Tyler Wright** + - Ensure issue #253 remains a priority and drop a note in the support repo. + - Add Andrew Mello to the SIG Support calendar invite. + +- **Participants** + - Review the PIP-02 proposal and provide feedback. + - Stay engaged via the provider announcement channel and Discord. + + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG providers monthly meeting on October 30th, 20 During the SIG providers monthly meetings, this group usually goes over anything related to the provider. obviously we have the provider channel and discord. documentation available but any active or live discussions that anybody wants to have regarding anything aos provider related we usually talk about during this monthly meeting. One of the standing agenda items historically has been updates from all the work that Jigger and Dval have been doing in creating Praor as of the last six months. + +Tyler Wright: I believe at this point again the Prador team is now under Overclock labs and has been actively working on the Akash console and a provider experience inside a console. usually we talk to or we get updates from Jigger and Dval and all the work that they've been doing around console 2.0 and the Kosh provider on console. I know there's also been a HIP 02 proposal that is now on chain up for vote. I think some folks may be joining to talk about that. But if anybody has any other agenda items or anything else related to the provider that they want to discuss here today, please drop a note inside the chat and we can get to any of those topics. + +Tyler Wright: there's enough folks from the core team here that can answer any questions if With that said, I'll kick it over to Jigger and Dval because I know there's a number of updates that they've been working on related to Akash console and the provider on console. So, I'll kick it over to them to give us an update on all the work that they've been + +Jigar Patel: Thanks Hey, so I wanted to start with the updates from u work that has been ongoing for provider console beta. and we have created PR and it's on the review right now and I also wanted to demo something today. if everybody agrees on that. Awesome. let me share my screen. + +Jigar Patel: Hope you can see the so basically this is a new provider console. and obviously it will be improved over the time. currently a lot of work is on ongoing right now but let's start with building a provider on it. so first you connect the wallet and obviously you can use caper or lip wallet. so if I use kapper it gives me approve ownership popup. I'm going to approve that. + +Jigar Patel: you might not able to see that pop up but yeah and on this wallet I'm not a provider so it will give me u become pro tab so on Okay. Maybe our node is a little bit behind me. + +Jigar Patel: I just created this wallet and it might not reflect the AD I just sent. yeah so once you wanted to become a provider you can just select the provider you can select the number of servers. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Jigar Patel: So we just removed selecting single and multiload because now we use K3S on both single load and multiload. So you can select how many number of server you want and we'll install K3S on all of them and make a Kubernetes on it. So if you select one for now going to okay and then give your information about the control machine. So let me just copy file to the file next. + +Jigar Patel: So basically it's verifying the access to it. and we'll ask for give the domain name. Then email is optional. Next attribute I can set location region if I want. so central hit here I can set the pricing. + +Jigar Patel: so based on the resources I have so I have four CPU 15 gigs of memory or 16 but one gigs the system takes it storage and the GPU and because I have a GPU right it'll show up the GPU pricing so let's say if I wanted to do 200 on GPU it'll just show me estimated monthly earnings next it will show a password mode or just this be importing wallet. so I'll select the wallet mode and then just copy my website. this is not the one. I just changed my yeah. Yeah. So was the one. Yeah. + +Jigar Patel: So now our building process started and it'll just initialize the G3S and we'll updated the system installing the G clico updating Kubernetes. So we'll just do all this and you say in 13 seconds we installed the Kubernetes on control node. and I'll just go back and change to other wallet or let me just go back to homepage because we are just installing Kubernetes. So we might have a dashboard for it. and you can see it like this is running right now. so if your provider is not online you'll able to see your dashboard look like this. + +Jigar Patel: Basically, it says your code is offline and if your board is online, which is I'm just going to try to find something that is online Yeah, it is online, So, you'll able to see the dashboard, you'll see all the deployments. and then more feature are coming soon. we are adding settings for changing attributes. + +Jigar Patel: those are coming soon you'll able to see that your conforming is connected or not and you are able to create a new wallets on it sorry a new multi-node cluster from it as well. yeah we'll push this update soon after the P merge into beta and we'll open it to testing for public. Thank you. So yeah, that was update from my + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much. I know again a significant amount of work has gone into that from again the console team and other members of the core team that have been supporting. So thank you very much. Cool. a couple of things that we've always touched on again as Jigger has mentioned today and in previous meetings much of the way that providers are being built now is as a result of a updated process that the core engineering team but mostly efforts kind of led by Scott have updated to again the way that the provider + +Tyler Wright: This has done wonders in speaking of speed in which providers can be built. and so again there's documentation that's available to those it's not the documentation that's on the site is still in beta right now. very much like the work from Digger and Dval related to the provider on AOS console. if anybody wants to again build the provider in the beta way, please recap. You can also use the documentation that's available in the Kosh docs. but again all that will be updated in the coming weeks or months as we continue to test and again there's been tests going on for at least six months with this new way to build the so again we have a large sample size of provider stability and all that kind of stuff. + +Tyler Wright: So again, much appreciate the efforts of many folks on this call for all they've done. Any questions on the provider experience on the Akash council? All right. I know some folks who traditionally come to this meeting have conflicts coming out of some other calls. One thing I do want to point out again, there is a pro proposal on chain for the provider incentives pilot number two. This is off of the back of again the first pilot I'm dropping in the GitHub discussion for folks. + +Tyler Wright: if anybody has any questions about the pilot number two how the funds will be used please feel free to drop in a message inside of that GitHub discussion. we might also take some time potentially during steering committee if anybody has any follow-up questions that they might have and they want to talk about it live. Terrific. Is there any other topics that anybody on this call wants to talk about? Go ahead, Scott. + +Scott Carruthers: So I wanted to ensure that everyone on this call was clear especially for those supporting provider builds like Rodri and others in the community and the impact and the use of our AOSH recent introduction of trial instances and possibly some others will have some thoughts on this as well but I'll kick it off. + +Scott Carruthers: so for anyone that's not aware the AOS console recently introduced trial accounts so this is very much akin or synonymous with AWS free tier right so a brand new user to AOS maybe a non-crypto user this wants to experiment with AOS deployments just like they want to experiment with virtual machines on AWS we want to give the ability for someone to easily get started and + +Scott Carruthers: do some initial experimentation on AOS and then eventually obviously if they like the experience and AOSH fits their needs and they would transition out of the trial accounts to paid accounts just as you would in AWS or other cloud environments. The reason I bring this up on this call I are twofold. one I just want to ensure that everyone is aware currently trial accounts are restricted to providers that are on a white list. so obviously if someone is spinning up a cost trial, we want to ensure that they're running on our most stable so we have a white list of providers that, are the targets for trial deployments. so first of all, I just want to make sure everyone was clear on that. + +Scott Carruthers: and then second and again in support of the community I've recently started getting some questions about increased bid because there's so much activity around I think trial accounts are being very eagerly anticipated and I think the community is very excited to use user accounts when seeing a flood of new activity that increases the bid activity on the network. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Scott Carruthers: so if we have any providers that are curious about increased bid activity and we would obviously have to dig into on a individual basis to see if a provider is wondering why there's increased bid activity. We'd have to validate that it's because of trial counts or possibly it could be for some other reason but I've recently heard or fielded some questions on increased bid activity because of trial accounts. let me know if there's any questions on this, but that's basically the two points that I want to make. So, first of all, I just want to make sure that everyone is aware of trial accounts on the AOS network. and that they're currently limited to providers that exist on a white list. I think we're kind of in the mode right now that if other community providers want to be included on that white list, we're willing to entertain that. + +Scott Carruthers: + +Scott Carruthers: So we do have some community providers on that white list currently and we're open to including others so obviously it's a trial account, but the provider is still realizing profits. if a trial account lands on your provider so it's not like the provider would be hosting free compute at that point. They would actually be compensated in AKT just as they would from any other deployment. So again, the two points that I wanted to make was just one, make sure everyone was aware of trial accounts and its impact on providers and the provider white list and also some increased bid activity on the network. Any questions about trial accounts or any of the provider related bits that I just talked about? + +Tyler Wright: + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, if there's no questions, I think that's it. + +Scott Carruthers: And I don't think I have outside of trial accounts, I don't think I have anything else at the moment. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much,… + +Tyler Wright: Just I know that there's a number of moving parts that are happening soon. obviously with trial wallets, fiat payments, the console experience, all the updates there happening on both the deployment side and on the provider side is Jigger and Deval just walked us through. there's a Cosmos SDK upgrade in the works and again there's some testing that is begun and will continue to happen over the next couple of weeks and beyond. I would just ask anybody listening to this or anybody here today. Again, make sure that you keep reminders on and notifications on especially for channels like the provider announcement channel. + +Tyler Wright: I know that Andre and others share date announcements there. Again, if there's any changes that need to be made across the provider or any call outs usually we put those we put those call outs there because obviously it's a permissionless network people giving their emails not always required. So, yeah, again, if anybody has anything, please please make sure that you look out for those announcement channels and stay up to date on all things there. Cool. All right. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I know we've gone through the agenda and gotten some updates on Akos console and on provider side from Jigger and Dval. Scott went through a bunch of announcements that he's been seeing over the last couple of days related to trial wallets. again, I just want to see if there's any other topics that anybody wants to bring up. I know we've been on here for a little over 20 minutes. but just want to see if there's anything else that anybody wants to talk about at this time. I'm going to take that silence as cool. + +Andrew Mello: + +Tyler Wright: Go ahead, Andrew. Yes,… + +Andrew Mello: Can you hear me now? + +Tyler Wright: can hear you + +Andrew Mello: Okay, great. I just wanted to follow up on the tainted nodes bidding issue that I had brought up on September 18th. that is still an open issue it looks like and that was kind of a priority issue because it affects any user deploying for the first time on a Kosh could potentially hit this bug which leads to a failed deployment. So it's kind of like a critical path that we'd want to make sure is working. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: And so that's issue number 253 in + +Tyler Wright: Yes, I can drop in a note. + +Tyler Wright: And so I apologize for not doing this beforehand. this is something we talked about in SIG support. We've, triaged it and this is a priority issue. There's just a number of other issues that have become higher priority over the last couple of months related to pod stability, related to some other things that again while this is a priority there's other things that have trumped it over the last couple of weeks. the goal is to get back to it very shortly but we're trying to work through some other related issues. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I know again we talked about this in SIG support the core engineering team is only so large and so again we're trying to push through as many issues but I can drop a note in issue number 253 in the support repo to just make sure that it continues to get the attention that it should get. + +Andrew Mello: + +Tyler Wright: But again, there's just not enough time and there's a couple other issues that have been more critical that the core engineering team has been focused on. + +Andrew Mello: So I just wanted to again put it out there so it's on the record that this does affect the first deployment experience for any user and… + +Andrew Mello: again thus I thought it should be looked at again. in addition to that I was going to file a new operator inventory bug. I cannot find stability with mixed GPUs. + +Andrew Mello: in the showing of available versus allocatable. I'm having this issue particularly on again clusters with mixed models. not just one model in a cluster and I'll be filing that today as So again more operator inventory issues. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you, Andrew, for identifying those and again u much appreciate when you make these issues. we'll look out for that issue and then again triage it like we have another great call Andrew maybe for you to come to if you have availability is a sick support call to talk a little bit more about these but much appreciate you bringing these up and s providers and then again we'll make sure these get u attention. + +Andrew Mello: All right, sounds good. Yeah, I'll see if I can get added to that sixport calendar invite. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. We'll do. Is there anything else that anybody wants to talk about related to the provider on If not then again we'll follow up with some updates in the provider announcements channel and elsewhere as they are made available. So again please look out for those channels if you haven't already. I think Andrew is again going to file a bug related to the inventory operator. so we'll look out for that issue and then again I'll make sure that Andrew is added to the six support call and we can talk a little bit more specifics about triaging and some of the other things Much appreciate the update from Jigger and Dval. again look out from for continued updates testing coming soon. + +Tyler Wright: If anybody has any questions or comments, please feel free to reach out in the six providers or the providers discord channel or elsewhere. But much appreciate everyone's time today and thank you to all those that are listening later. I hope everyone has a great rest of their day and we'll continue to talk online. But thank you all for the updates and the information. + +Andrey Arapov: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate you all. Bye-bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:34:24 👋 diff --git a/sig-providers/meetings/023-2024-11-27.md b/sig-providers/meetings/023-2024-11-27.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..665c34cc --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-providers/meetings/023-2024-11-27.md @@ -0,0 +1,138 @@ + +# Akash Network - Providers Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #23 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Akash Console 2.0 development +- Provider stability and dangling leases discussion +- API updates and their impact on providers +- Cosmos SDK upgrade roadmap +- Open floor for provider-related issues or questions + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://mla7nunhtbjx4escdlbbz2smfjxbbn4p34d72rgom7cjaf3vwaxa.arweave.net/YsH20aeYU34SQhrCHOpMKm4Qt4_fB_1EzmfEkBd1sC4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Jigar Patel +- Deval Patel +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrey Arapov +- Damir Simpovic +- Nathan Ward +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Forbes Analos +- Rodri R +- Vigneshwar Viswanathan +- B S +- Vontario Taylor + +## Meeting Notes + +### Updates on Akash Console 2.0 +- **Jigar Patel** + - Added new features to the Provider Console Beta: + - Deployment page and detailed deployment view. + - Pricing and attribute update functionality. + - Persistent storage integration, enhancing control machine access. + - Capability to reconnect OpenForm machines. + - Settings for restarting providers. + - Logs integration: + - Efforts underway to capture logs for all provider-related actions. + - Ongoing collaboration between Jigar, Deval, and Maxime Beauchamp to finalize this feature. + - A full functionality demo is expected in the next SIG Providers meeting. + - Reminder: Ongoing updates can be tracked in the Akash Network community repo on GitHub. + +### Provider Stability and Dangling Leases +- Discussion on issues related to dangling leases and provider experience stability. +- Core engineering team actively working on solutions: + - Addressing lease closure behavior and improving user experience. + - Internal tests ongoing with community members and engineering team. + +### API Updates +- **Tyler Wright** + - Updates to the API for provider-related functionalities: + - Improvements to the indexer, benefiting the provider side. + - Enhancements being utilized by the Console 2.0 development team. + - Pending changes to be implemented soon. + +### Cosmos SDK Upgrade Roadmap +- Transition from Cosmos SDK 45 to 47 in progress. +- Key updates: + - Testnet CLI functionality has been tested for several weeks with community feedback. + - Upcoming testing phases for clients and providers. + - Network upgrade planned for January or early February 2025, pending successful testing. + +### Announcements +- Steering committee meeting moved to early December due to U.S. holidays. +- Community members encouraged to: + - Stay active in the Providers and Discord channels. + - Use the Praetor channel for issues related to the Praetor-to-Console transition. + - Report issues via the support repo, tagging appropriately for visibility. + +### Closing Remarks +- Tyler Wright thanked participants for their continued contributions. +- Encouragement to remain engaged in discussions and provide feedback. + + +## Action Items +- **Jigar Patel and Deval Patel** + - Continue development on Console 2.0, focusing on logs integration and feature finalization. + - Prepare for a full demo in the next SIG Providers meeting. + +- **Scott Carruthers** + - Collaborate with the community and core team on dangling lease improvements. + +- **Maxime Beauchamp** + - Finalize and roll out API updates for provider-side enhancements. + +- **Community Members** + - Participate in upcoming testing phases for Cosmos SDK 47. + - Report issues and provide feedback through appropriate channels. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to SIG providers. It is November 27th, 2024. during this special interest group for providers, the group gets together and talks about all things related to the AOSH provider on the AOSH network. usually we get feedback from the Dval and Jigger who originally developed something called Ptor an easy way for people to build providers on the Akash network as of the last really six to eight months at this point. the Prador team has joined the overclock labs team and they are working on the Akash console 2.0 + +Tyler Wright: 0 which will include the provider side of the console and open source experience. We get updates from Jigger and Deval on all things related to their work there. so that's how we'll start off our agenda. After that we'll talk about see if there's anybody else that has any issues related to provider that they want to discuss. I know that there's been some work happening from the overclock labs core team around provider stability and some things that have been discussed in six support and elsewhere. So again, there might be some updates there, but I do want to see before we hop into updates from Jigger and Deval if there's anything that anybody wants to discuss on the provider side here, feel free to drop it in the chat and we can make sure we discuss it here. Cool. + +Tyler Wright: again, feel free to drop in any agenda items during the course of the meeting, but at this point, I do want to kick it over to Jigger and Dval. At last month, at the last sick providers meeting, we got a demo from Jigger and Dval on the work they've been doing around console. and that was quite exciting. That demo is again available on GitHub. You can go inside the SIG providers inside the community repo, and just look at the notes and the transcript and video from last month. But I'll hand it over to Jigger and Dval to see if there's an update from all the work that they've been working on this past month. + +Jigar Patel: So I want to start with the features that we have added into our console beta since the last length. We have added a deployments page and deployments details page. we also added pricing and attributes update features as well. So now can update the pricing and accurates for their provider. we've also added a pers storage which is a huge thing considering the functionality that actually taps into and all these things the functionality depends on the control machine access. + +Jigar Patel: So we also added a functionality where you can reconnect your openform machines if not connected. and then everything is obviously restored in the browser and everything. So no there's no data stored on our site anything. and then we also added a settings where you can restart your provider. And next thing that we are currently working on getting the logs into those actions. So all these update pricing attributes person storage or any provider build. so everything is a action that happens on the provider side. + +Jigar Patel: so we are actually working on getting all the logs related to those actions and based on that you'll able to see those logs as well. So we are actually currently working on it. some of the k are already merged and some of that is in the review right now. we are obviously going back and forth me the wall Maxaro and then yeah based on basically we're constantly working on that hoping to give a demo on the next meeting with the full functionality everything that I already mentioned here and more. Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. Again, there's a repo inside the AOS network organization where you can track all the work from Jigger and al. and again, there please feel free to use the sick providers channel or the providers channel inside Discord to ask any technical questions. and I believe there still is the ecosystem prair channel for folks that have prator issues that they're currently facing. Again the transition and plans around how things will transition from pritor to akos console will be made available soon. So yeah anyone have any questions specifically on the work from Jigger and Cool. All right. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: one other thing that I just wanted to bring up very quickly is again around there's been some people in the community that on the provider side that have brought up some issues around dangling leases around just the provider experience in general. I know that the core engineering team over the last couple of months has been looking into looking to solve some of these issues with a couple of upgrades and provider upgrades that have happened. But again, the core team has been spending some cycles along with everything else you see on the pro product and engineering roadmap around just basic provider stability in general. why some leases are closing at specific times and the behavior around that. + +Tyler Wright: that behavior is expected behavior as designed, but again, there's some talk and some work being done to potentially change that behavior for the betterment of the user experience of the provider. So, again, there's been some tests that have been going on internally with the core engineering team and some members of the community. but that might be something that gets talked about at the steering committee or the next SIG provider meeting or SIG support around again some of those improvements to the provider experience. so again, if you're a provider, please look out for what could be some potential upgrades coming soon or at least again some changes that should improve the provider experience. + +Tyler Wright: I know that Andre is quite active and does a great job of making announcements in various channels related to provider. Over the last month since our last provider meeting, there's been some announcements going out as it pertains to certain behaviors. Again, many of those behaviors we talked about in other SIGs and have been updated. I just want to see if there's again anything else with active providers coming out of the provider announcements channel or anywhere else that anybody wants to discuss or get more clarity All right. + +Tyler Wright: The last thing that I was going to touch on and Max, keep me honest here and correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's been some updates to the API that have had a positive impact on just the provider side and I think these are things that are being leveraged by Jigger and Deval as they're continuing to build out console 2.0. So, I know that Max C, and others have been again working on some again API changes to the indexer and continuing to improve the indexer, especially on the provider side. So, I know that I believe there have been some updates there. If they're not live yet, they should live soon, but I just wanted to call out again some additional efforts from members of the core team around the provider. + +Tyler Wright: All is there anything else that anybody wants to share right now? I know there's a number of other efforts being done by community members and members of the core team, but I just want to see if there's anything on the provider side that anybody wants to discuss, ask questions about, or get more clarity around here today. If not, then again, feel free to use the providers channel in Discord. there's provider builds channel for folks that are looking to again build kind of bare metal resources that they're going to bring on to the Akos network. Again, there's a number of channels and number of folks active in those channels. So, shout out to everybody that gives feedback helps other people in those channels. Much appreciated. + +Tyler Wright: feel free to use the ecosystem praor channel if you have any questions related to prator. and then looking forward to our next s providers meeting where we'll get another demo on all the work that the praor team has been doing around akos console 2.0. I'm sure there'll be additional updates around some of the provider stability work and pod stability work that the core team has been doing. and then we'll start to outline next steps on the provider side as we look towards a Cosmos SDK47 upgrade. Again, for folks not in the know, there was a massive upgrade that the core engineering team has been working on as it pertains to migrating from Cosmos SDK 45 to 47. Should be a whole big unlock for a number of things. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: the test net of testing CLI functionality has been going on for the last three or four weeks in both internally and with members of the community. That testing is almost complete. We've gotten a great deal of feedback and implementing some changes there. And then next part of the test net will be clients testing and providers testing of the Cosmos SDK 47 or SDK 47. So again, we'll probably call upon some people from the community to help out with that testing when the time is right as we look to plan for the network upgrade happening in January or early February depending on testing and how that goes. Cool. If there's nothing else then again I urge people to stay involved in providers channels and Discord. thank you to everybody for joining today. + +Tyler Wright: if anybody has anything that they want to talk about, please feel free to drop a message in Discord. If anybody has any issues that they want to discuss, feel free to again talk to members of the community. There's always vanguards and other folks in the community that can help you get questions answered from there. If there's a specific issue, then it could be escalated and folks can open up issues inside the support repo, which is where everything related to the core Akos network lives, So again you can see tags by provider, you can see tags by node repo etc. so again please if you want to get involved with specific provider issues or if you have see an issue please know where you can report it. Thank you all for joining today. + +Tyler Wright: Again, the steering committee is going to be moved to the beginning of December because of some holidays in America, but I look forward to seeing you all at the next SIG providers getting again another demo from Jigger and Deval. and again, we can just discuss anything else in between. Hope everyone has a great rest of their day and again thank you all for your constant contributions and support. Appreciate y'all. 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Label updated for internal logging investigation; clarified it’s focused on internal workloads and Akash console. + - **Shell Access Issue:** Resolved the shell access issue related to the provider pod restart. Updated labels and clarified it doesn’t resolve the issue of lease events dropping over time, which needs further investigation. + - **UDP Protocol Misconception:** Issue raised by **Zeke** on UDP support availability for Akash deployments. After testing, it was confirmed that UDP is supported alongside TCP. Specific issue found with using the same port for both protocols in game server deployments, which requires further work on Kubernetes to support named field differentiation. + +### Console Issues Update +- **Tyler Wright** inquired if there were any significant console-related issues that needed discussion. + - **Maxime Beauchamp** mentioned minor issues but none urgent for the current meeting. + - **Andrew Mello** raised a discrepancy in the bit engine script’s calculations on Helm charts versus the Akash console, which affects deployment CLI versus console. + +### Discussion on Bugs and Upcoming Issues +- **Andrew Mello** introduced three critical bugs found during testing: + - **Timeout Limit for Large Containers:** Five-minute timeout for deployment completion may not be sufficient for large containers (e.g., AI models), particularly on high-speed connections. Clarified it might not be a network parameter; **Scott** and others to investigate further. + - **Control Plane Bidding Issue:** Control plane nodes are bidding when they shouldn’t, affecting deployment accuracy and network performance. Scott noted mechanisms to address node exclusion in inventory operators, but this needs further investigation. + - **CPU Parameter Rollback:** Observed rollback from **512 CPUs** to **384 CPUs**, possibly unintentional. Andrew plans to create an issue to revert this limit back. + +### Community and Discord Behavior Updates +- **Tyler Wright** opened the floor for community behavior issues, particularly around Discord spam and bot activity: + - **Damir Simpovic** observed spam behavior involving bots posting links after conversational exchanges. + - **Rodri R** reported recurring issues with new users creating spam-like chats, submitting tickets and support requests, and occasionally including screenshots. + - **Tyler Wright** confirmed action items for refining the blacklist of restricted words and addressing spam through moderator tools and the Akash Insiders program. + +**Closing Remarks:** +- **Tyler Wright** encouraged all participants to stay engaged in SIG activities, emphasizing collaboration through GitHub and Discord channels. +- Expressed gratitude for everyone’s contributions, especially in community support and repository management, and wished everyone a productive week. + +## Action Items +- **Andrew Mello**: Create formal issues for the bugs discussed, including timeout limits, CPU parameter rollback, and control plane bidding issues. +- **Scott Carruthers**: Investigate the feasibility of updating the Akash network’s SDL to support simultaneous TCP and UDP on the same port. +- **Tyler Wright**: Review and update Discord’s blacklist and moderation settings, based on the observed issues and participant feedback. +- All participants were encouraged to submit any additional insights or issues in Discord channels and GitHub between meetings. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: Hello, welcome everybody to SIG support. It is September 18th, 2024. The SIG support is a special interest group that focuses on all things on the cost. That's covers everything from Any issues related to the support repo. Some folks can talk about anything related to the console repo. I see there's a couple of representative from the console team here. And then again, we take some time towards the end to talk about support and discord and other channels. So if anybody has anything that they want to add as an agenda item, feel free to drop it in to the chat. We'll make sure we're discuss it at some point today. + +Tyler Wright: Right now, I'm gonna kick it over to Scott, who will get us started with triaching, any issues that are waiting trios and we can talk about anything and support repo. So Scott, I kick it over to you. + +Scott Carruthers: All right, thanks, Ty I will Share out my screen. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, so I think this is actually going to be a pretty quick triage process today. So if we look at the Current issues on the Akash network support repo. We could see during this and I'll open up for discussions as well. If anybody wants to talk about any other issues but we initially just go through and make sure that nothing is in waiting tree action assignment. So I reviewed These prior to our call. And I think this is going to be a pretty quick process. And again, we'll open it up for questions. Afterwards are all open up for questions as we go through each of these as so, Start from the bottom here. this is actually just an internal tracking item. That is already assigned to Andy and Devolve from the core team. So this is just simply a matter of it's not assigned any label so I'm gonna take the + +Scott Carruthers: Awaiting triage off. And I'll put this in the Provider o, label. so again pretty simple one and this was already assigned that this is already active investigation for logging options and some things that are internal team is doing. This isn't necessarily a logging solution for community providers. This is just a logging investigation for some internal workloads like a cash console and things that were investigating better logging options. So again, pretty simple one and basically just need to have the Correct. Label associated. + +Scott Carruthers: So, I'll go back to the List and bring up a waiting triage. This is a I'm gonna go out of order here a little bit because I'll discuss a little bit further. The other one I think is pretty simple. This is one that Max and I discuss weight last week. So recently, we have cells issues of the Shell access to a deployment breaking, if a provider pod is restarted. So that Disruption to Shell Access. It should be resolved and I think there was a belief that I was also going to solve lease events dropping off after time. + +Scott Carruthers: Which I don't think this is a necessarily associated with a provider pod restart, but for some reason, over time, Kubernetes events are no longer available through a class queries. So I thought that was solved again. When we investigated the shell break issues that this is still outstanding. So Max, open an issue. Myself and Archer to this issue. + +Scott Carruthers: And I will also put this one, take it out of a waiting triage and also put this one. And they. Repo Akash label. So I think this is a pretty straightforward issue that we're probably most are Already aware of. + +Scott Carruthers: Just reading this update that Andy put in as well. But anyways, so obviously this needs further investigation to find out why lease events are not available through a cash queries. After a period of time, any questions or does anybody want to discuss this further? + + +### 00:05:00 + +Scott Carruthers: So like I said pretty well known issue and then Lastly, there's a issues that I'm pretty familiar with. So this issue. + +Scott Carruthers: Right now. So Zeke brought this to my attention last week of there was an initial belief when he opened this issue that UDP support was not available for a cost deployments. So I walked through that was Zeke and prove that UDP is definitely available in a cost appointments by changing the defaults TCP protocol in the SDL. and then there was a belief that TCP and UDP were not supported simultaneously and I proved that that wasn't the case either and showed deployments that were using Both TCP and UDP protocols, that we're working perfectly fine. + +Scott Carruthers: So, we went through a little bit of testing for what is issues. He was actually encountering and the issue was that for a video game server. So this is kind of a unusual circumstance. So you have a poor which I believe in this case was a video game server like a Minecraft server or I don't think it's actually minecraft. It was a different video game server. The utilize port 777 both for UDP and TCP. So that's kind of unusual in an application that you would expose. the same port for both TCP and UDP, but for game servers, this somewhat prominent because you want to + +Scott Carruthers: Make the mental load on video game, users a little less. So if they have to put in a custom port, they only want to have to update a single port and that would update both the underlying poor usage of TCP and UDP on the back end. So again not something that we would typically encounter TCP and UDP being used on the same port number. But for video games, that can be someone prominent. So I did some testing of this and this is indeed an issue. If you try to Expose a TCP on UDP port. So again, if we use seven seven as an example on an SDL and try to expose that, be a TCP and UDP the Kubernetes node part will actually be created for TCP. So I did some testing of this And stuff. + +Scott Carruthers: Possible in Kubernetes simultaneously on a deployment, both TCP and UDP using the same port number. But when you do that and starting to get a little bit deep into this. But in case anyone is interested, if you do this via a Straight Kubernetes, deployments. Not a cost appointment, but just a straight Kubernetes deployment. You definitely can use the same port number for TCP and UDP. But to differentiate those for underlying IP tables and other Linux and Kubernetes artifacts is necessary to use a name fields within the service and currently a cost doesn't support that Name field. So Anyways, that's a long-witted explanation of it currently is an issue and it's not possible to expose the same pork via TCP and UDP and the cost deployment. And it looks like we would have to add + +Scott Carruthers: Something into the SDL, it's particularly under the service to allow a name differentiator, that then allows Kubernetes to create the underlying artifacts to support that. So, again, I don't think it's a very prominent issue of and again, went through full validation that it is actually in an issue. So I think a somewhat where use case but something that we certainly need to solve for as there are a number of video game developers that are interested in deploying on a cache. So, with all that being said, I'll take this out of a waiting triage. And this also goes into the provider repo, and I'll, again assign myself and Archer to this. + +Scott Carruthers: Any questions about my explanation of this issue on this matter? + +Scott Carruthers: okay, if not and we go back and look at a waiting triage, we now have engineering assignment for all issues and sound like there was any questions about those specific issues or the latest issues open and they repos in the support repository. So with that I'll open it up. Are there Any desired discussions about other issues that I haven't covered. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, maybe some will come up as we continue the conversation but with that, I think Triaging is complete tower. So I'll hand it back to you. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much Scott, Again, if anybody has anything that they wanted to talk about specifically, feel free to drop in and chat. One of the things that we also like to do, I think Max is here as well. I just wanted to see if there's anything console related on the issues front. I don't know if there's any good first issues right now but try to put you on the spot Max. Is there anything that you see on console issues front? That is worth talking about during the six support call. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Maxime Beauchamp: The bunch of issues, but I don't think any issues were talking about here. unless someone else has an issues that they want to talk about, + +Tyler Wright: Does anyone have any issues that they want to talk about? That's pertains to the cash console. + +Tyler Wright: All I see a hand Go ahead, Andrew. + +Andrew Mello: So I was just looking here, One of my issues does cover the console so figured I'd bring it up now. So I was noticing when doing a cost mining testing at scale that I was digging into some of the numbers a little more specifically. And what I found was a discrepancy between the bit engine script on the helm charts and the Akash console + +Andrew Mello: For the specific value of the total amount of time in a month, when it came to, the calculation of uakt per block. So I didn't file this yet. The three bugs I'm going to talk about today. I haven't filed yet. I wanted to bring them up here a little bit in advance. So what this causes right is kind of a discrepancy between what a user would see when doing a deployment with the CLI versus what they're gonna see on the console. + +Andrew Mello: Since they don't use the same number. So in the bug that I filed Maxime, I'll point you at these two lines of code and basically someone needs to decide which one is going to be the right number. Because right now, console uses a number and the bit engine script uses a number. So one of them has to stay one of the best to go. So I think it's time to square that off because again, it creates a discrepancy from CLI to console. And again, as kind of misunderstood, why we're using different numbers for that. So that was my only little akash console thing that I found in my books for today + +Maxime Beauchamp: Did you create an issue? + +Tyler Wright: + +Andrew Mello: I said that the three bugs I'm going to mention today. I wanted to discuss here first before I made issues about,… + +Tyler Wright: I'm not yet,… + +Andrew Mello: so I was bringing them up. + +Tyler Wright: I think his next step is going to create an issue. Before I move on, because I think the last portion of the six support call on the agenda is we see if any insiders anybody in the community has anything that they've seen in discord elsewhere, Andrew, I know that you mentioned having two other bugs that you want to discuss here before you formally create issues. Do you want to take time now to talk about the other two before we jump into the support stuff? + +Andrew Mello: Sure let's knock it out. that's kind of a high level one here that I want to bring up because I don't know where the best place to address this. I think it's a network parameter but What I've noticed. And I'm sure all of you have probably noticed in the last six months or so since ai workloads have taken off, that these docker containers are really big. We're talking multiple gigabytes. + +Andrew Mello: Sometimes even approaching 10 gigabytes. And what I found on the providers is that our timeout of five minutes, for a deployment to go from pending to deployed before it gets killed by the provider, that is not enough time anymore on a gigabit connection. With one of these large AI images or, model that's baked into an image again, it's just not enough time to download it and have it running and extracted within that time limit. So I don't know if that's a network parameter, that we need to vote on chain about to just change from five minutes to 15 or if it's more fancy. Does anyone know? + + +### 00:15:00 + +Damir Simpovic: I'm pretty sure that some of the providers. That are Overfox managed. Sometimes the Model, download and the Image downloads takes 45 minutes and it doesn't get killed, not sure. + +Andrew Mello: No, we're talking about different issues. I'm talking about the size of containers and extra large containers and now with LMS and all kinds of + +Andrew Mello: Packages inside of these containers. They are growing very large. once they're running and pulling models. I'm talking about the containers themselves with the Nvidia CUDA with, all the other packaging. They're now multiple gigabytes and on providers that have a Gigabit connection, That can quickly surpass the five minutes. So, who should I inquire with about this? Because I feel like This is a network parameter thing, just like the limits on CPUs memory disk that kind of the thing. It's not provider specific I believe. So, again, that's why I'm bringing it up on the call wanted a little more direction before I file a bug about this So, if anybody knows, if not, I'll keep poking around to figure out the answer. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, so I haven't so yeah just go ahead and create the issues so I highly doubtful that this is a network parameter, but I would have to take a quick look. But I actually haven't,… + +Andrew Mello: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: yeah, yeah. Just go ahead and open the issue and we can investigate. I don't think that it's a network parameter. So I actually wasn't aware that there was a Restriction on. and the image download time, I + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, you got flight five minutes for the container to be running, right to go from pending to running before it turns out. it won't just sit on pending on a provider Ever. In the initial,… + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. + +Andrew Mello: look women. + +Scott Carruthers: Just Okay, yeah, I mean the bottom line is, we need to invest here. So the reason I think that's interesting is that and… + +Andrew Mello: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: so, Simply you might have some experience with us. I thought we've had experiences where we've had image downloads that. Take much longer than five minutes without Provoking initia. But + +Damir Simpovic: Yeah, I'm pretty sure we did. We do. + +Andrew Mello: It's initial now. + +Scott Carruthers: yeah. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah so I'll document it and that also + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, what we have to get into some of the semantics or the best So that's the reason I want. So Andrew, I'm not at all like downplaying if you're encountering this YouTube. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah. + +Scott Carruthers: We'll definitely look into it. the interesting thing is shampa and others for some of the AI workloads that we've deployed and they've been in the weeds of this a little bit more than I. So, I wanted ship has experience, but I know that I've seen conversation around this where we've had images that take much longer than five minutes to download and it hasn't provoked an issue. So again, I'm not disputing that you've run into this, we just need to take the specifics because Again, we've had experiences where that hasn't provoked an issues. So we'll have to see what they Specific are behind it. + +Andrew Mello: Okay, I bring up the network parameter thing because another one had changed that nobody documented and I don't know why it was actually one of the ones that I had implemented, which was the 512 CPUs. And I'll actually be another bug. I'll add today because there's no reason we should have rolled that back to 384. I don't know why we support less CPUs now than we did before. And also it doesn't make sense because you can have two CPUs in a system, that are up to 512 threads easily. So I'm gonna take a look at both of those. See if it's a network parameter for the timing as well. We'll figure that out and then the final bug I had here was + +Andrew Mello: the one I mentioned to you Scott in private but just wanted to bring it public that the providers control planes are bidding on the network. So you can see this in the event logs, when you deploy to provider, that's full, they're control plane is bidding showing that they have resources available, your deployment gets, deployed on their provider. And then in the event logs, you see immediately that the node that, you're trying to deploy on is tainted and then the deployment fails at five minutes automatically. So, + + +### 00:20:00 + +Andrew Mello: that is a rather concerning one because that one actually has network performance impacts. It also has impacts of the inventory and availability of inventory being incorrect, right? We're showing when a provider is full, they're still bidding and they shouldn't be. So that I would say, out of all of my bugs, is the one with the highest priority. And then, I would say, Definitely I'm out on containers, spawning on gigabit connections. And then the last one there about + +Andrew Mello: the different values on the bit engine and the console and pointing Max to that. And again, I don't know. The reason I brought up the values today really was, because I don't know who makes the decision on that, because Akash has their value and their chart and you guys are gonna have yours. So you guys gotta decide which one to use their I would imagine it will be the bid engine one because then all the providers don't have to update. So that is my bug find for the last few weeks. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, and the control plane. So obviously we're talking about control planes that are Dedicated control plane nodes that aren't worker. Nodes are if they work. + +Andrew Mello: So if they followed the setup of Akash, right? you're setting control planes as tainted, As not supposed to be bidding and all of that but the provider is still seeing those as available. + +Scott Carruthers: So what I was going to say, so obviously this is a matter when the control point is not also serving as a worker node and they're at our mechanisms within the inventory operator to + +Scott Carruthers: The term is escaping out so I'll just say So I don't think that's actually what it is and they inventory, operator mechanics. But anyways, let's just say There's a mechanism with an operator to exclude nodes from inventory for this exact purpose. So if you have control plane only nodes, we should be able to when the in Operator, is deployed data specify nodes that we want to exclude from inventory. And when the inventory operator with Feature Discovery was first released, it was noticed that mechanism for exclusion was not working. So it's definitely a known issue. I don't believe that. There's actually an issue and the support repo. So for some new attention, Andrew, if you could open an issue so we can look at this on the latest version. So I think you're already intending to do that. But again, it's kind of a known issue but it hasn't got any attention recently. So, + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, and it's the kind of issue that would slip through the cracks until a provider is full. It's not something you notice until you're at edge cases, right? Because everything looks great until you're at, out of 90 CPUs available, and it's still bidding, but then you're deployments aren't working, right. The problem is it creates a full failure for the deployment. So, that's why it's kind of definitely one. We want to get some eyes on. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, okay, yeah, understood. So yeah, yeah, if you can open an issue for that. Then, yeah, that like I said, I don't believe this received any attention recently even though it's kind of a known issue. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, but besides that I mean those are the majors that I found after doing some pretty extensive heavy hitting testing with a cosh mining, filling up providers and again that that's stuck out like a sore thumb. So we'll get it going. Thank you again for the attention on it. + +Tyler Wright: Just again, as an action item, the issues that Andrew's brought up today, we kind of talked about over our last few minutes, Andrew will create formal issues. So that we continue to track those beyond this meeting. We can make comments in between six support meetings and kind of look to get these results to figure out what next steps are. But Andrew, thanks for bringing those up again, here on the call and looking forward to creating those issues and following up. + +Andrew Mello: Yeah, we'll do. And glad you guys have some context now for them. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, much appreciated. All right. We've gone through the support repo we've gone through, talk about giving people opportunity to talk about anything at Cross Console related. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: Andrew brought up some issues or bugs rather than he's found that he's going to turn into issues. I'm following call. The only thing I wanted to talk about again, if anybody has anything else, they want to talk about, feel free to drop it in the chats. But usually, during these six support calls, I reach out to rodri or other members of the Akash insiders slash vanguards to see if there's anything in the community in discord and telegram and other channels that might be worth discussing, that might be worth talking about with again this group. So, anything related to user experience activity in discord, etc. Feel free to talk about this now, to me, I see your hand Feel free to go ahead. + +Damir Simpovic: I noticed that the ticket guys are back, so they might have figured out. A way to go around the filter. So yeah. That's something that we need to. that's all I have. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I've seen some people drop some suggestions and insiders and we continue to implement them. But go ahead. Roger + +Rodri R: The same. I was just gonna add that just this morning, there was this couple of new users, that started creating a chat between them. we all with the usually do and the mirror said, they dropped in several tickets and different support things, even one of them even created a screenshot and uploaded it. I banned the users, I thought that we wouldn't get that support ticket was already in the Blacklisted. Words, Word List. I'm not sure why they're going to. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I'll check on that and get back to you but thank you for bringing that up. + +Damir Simpovic: the results also a notice that somebody's using books, like, Two or three bots talking to each other on this course. kind of like a normal conversation. + +Damir Simpovic: Yeah. I timed one of them out. Then the other one continues talking. As if. The other one was still there. Was pretty funny, but why I'm bringing it up is because they + +Damir Simpovic: they occasionally drop links. they're relatively harmless to watch just the conversation but after 10, or 15 messages, they drop a link where they, I don't know, found a how to get 8,000 for free, just by clicking on it, stuff like that, people scans. So Yeah. Need to be aware of those. + +Tyler Wright: All If you all can continue to drop messages in the insiders channel again, because Insiders program is an application and acceptance program that is like a caution ambassadors. There's a sign up forum on the website but again I know Roger and Jamaica both insiders. If you can continue to share some of these messages in the chat Adam I and others can continue to look and refine the modification to a mod tools. Go ahead. Roger + +Tyler Wright: You might be unmuted if you're talking. + +Rodri R: I was just saying that there were also some airdrop messages last week and I believe yesterday too. I don't know if that word has also been that listed apparently not because they typed it. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, again I'll Look at the settings. I'm not really sure what changed because many of these words were blacklisted for a long time. So, let me see if something happened with discord or saw or elsewhere and we'll make sure that some of those basic words I've support ticket, airdrop etc, are blacklist. And then, feel free to drop in the other messages or tendencies that you see. And the cost insiders discord channel, we'll continue to refine the modules. + + +### 00:30:00 + +Rodri R: For sure and it was working because I once got banned from the server for Typing Support Ticket just when you all created the blacklist. So yeah, it used to work. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, that's what I figured and they were gone for a long time but we'll make sure I follow up. Is there anything else tendency wise or behavior wise, and discord or elsewhere? There might be worth noting here with a folks that get people support in various chats, as well as just members of the core engineering team. + +Tyler Wright: Is there anything else support related to anybody wants to talk about before I let y'all go. + +Tyler Wright: All right, we got a number of action items that will look out for some new issues. That'll be created again. I know the console team is going to continue to create some issues for folks in the community to contribute to. Again, there's a number of opportunities to get involved. Please look at the various repos, ask questions and individual issues, leave comments etc. Much appreciate everyone's time and energy much, appreciate Andrew for bringing these bugs to attention today. Again, we look for those issues coming real shortly. And again hope everyone has a great rest of your day Thanks as always for leading us through on the treehouse process. Hope everyone has a great day, feel free to drop any comments in various channels and discord. Six support. If you don't know where to drop, it related to any of these issues. And again, we'll continue working in between meetings and discord and github, etc. But thanks again for All your hard work, hope everyone has a great rest of the day and prayers for the week. + +Scott Carruthers: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:32:15 👋 diff --git a/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md b/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..c5e82061 --- /dev/null +++ b/sig-support/meetings/038-2024-10-16.md @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ +# Akash Network - Support Special Interest Group (SIG) - Meeting #38 + +## Agenda +- Welcome and Opening Remarks +- Triage of Support Repo Issues +- Community Discussion on Discord and Telegram Behaviors +- Open Floor for Additional Issues + +## Meeting Details + +- Date: Ocober 16, 2024 +- Time: 07:00 GMT-7 +- [Recording](https://y6maa325rxgqsjjluoracvtjrcxiq2bhxlyftdloyiiafyhatydq.arweave.net/x5gAb12NzQklK6OiAVZpiK6IaCe68FmNbsIQAuDgngc) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Tyler Wright +- Scott Carruthers +- Andrey Arapov +- Benjamin B +- B S +- Deathless +- M R + +## Meeting Notes + +### Welcome and Opening Remarks +- **Tyler Wright** welcomed everyone to the SIG Support monthly meeting, emphasizing the importance of triaging issues in the support repository and addressing Akash Network issues on GitHub. +- Outlined the meeting’s flow: triage support issues, address community concerns in Discord and Telegram, and conclude with open discussion. + +### Triage of Support Repo Issues +- **Scott Carruthers** reviewed issues awaiting triage in the support repo, detailing each one: + - **Pod Stability Issues**: Investigation ongoing to reduce out-of-memory (OOM) issues, particularly affecting GPU AI workloads. Core team is exploring the use of Kubernetes host swap files to alleviate these issues. Issue assigned a high priority (P1) and added to the engineering roadmap. + - **Coinbase Transaction Error**: User mistakenly sent AKT to a Coinbase source address. Tyler is investigating ways to return the small amount of AKT involved and will handle the follow-up. + - **Wallet Operation Error in Praetor App**: Jigar initially responded to clarify this user-reported error, which may stem from configuration issues. The team is awaiting further user input and feedback to investigate fully. + - **Authorized Spend Without Expiration**: An edge case where deploying a spend without an expiration date produces erroneous date outputs. Issue noted as potentially display-only, needing further testing to confirm. Assigned for additional testing by Scott. + - **Inconsistent Block Time Calculation**: Discrepancy found in average block time values between the Akash console and bid engine script, affecting deployment price estimates. Suggestion raised to use a shared value repository to avoid future inconsistencies. Scott will take this issue offline for further evaluation. + +### Community Discussion on Discord and Telegram Behaviors +- **Tyler Wright** invited feedback on observed behaviors or themes in support-related channels: +- **Community Spam and Bot Activity**: No specific issues were raised during this meeting, though Tyler emphasized using the SIG Support channel to report any suspicious activity. + +### Open Floor for Additional Issues +- Tyler opened the floor for further discussion on any issues, behaviors, or topics not covered in the formal agenda. +- No additional issues or behaviors were raised at this time. + +### Closing Remarks +- Tyler thanked all participants, especially Scott, for leading the triage session, and expressed appreciation for community contributions in support channels. +- Encouraged attendees to stay engaged in Discord and GitHub to help monitor and report issues between meetings. + +## Action Items +- **Scott Carruthers**: Investigate pod stability improvements using Kubernetes host swap files and continue testing the Authorized Spend Without Expiration edge case. +- **Tyler Wright**: Follow up on the Coinbase transaction error to return the small amount of AKT mistakenly sent by the user. +- **Scott Carruthers**: Resolve the block time calculation discrepancy by exploring a shared value repository for consistent pricing estimates across the console and bid engine script. +- **Core Team**: Coordinate testing for the Cosmos SDK v0.47 upgrade and reach out to community members experienced with validator setup for involvement in this testing group. +- **All Participants**: Use the SIG Support channel to report any spam, bot activity, or behavior issues observed in community channels (Discord, Telegram). + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, everybody. Welcome to the SIG Support monthly meeting during the Special Interest group. + +Tyler Wright: Support this group meets on a monthly basis. Led by members of the core engineering team to go over any issues that are awaiting triage in the support repo and the Akash Network Organization and GitHub is where all issues related to the Blockchain and just again, the Akash network as a whole live. There's another repo that sometimes we discuss more issues related to console live again. If anybody has any issues related, consolders a discord channel called Ecosystem Console. And again, there's also the console repo inside the car's network organization, where folks can create issues again. What we usually do is I hand it over to remember the core team to go for any issues that are waiting triage inside the support repo. + +Tyler Wright: Anybody can discuss any of those issues or bring anything up and folks aren't here live for the meeting. You have a question about a specific issue more than welcome to drop a comment inside that respected issue and the support repo from there after we triage any issues and we discuss any issues and support repo. I'll see if anybody in the community that wants to talk about any support as having a discord or any other behaviors or themes that need to be discussed. Anybody has anything that they want to talk about specifically related to support whether it be again, the support repo or just general support inside discord and other channels. Again, feel free to drop a message inside the chat. But without further ado, I'm going to hand it over to Scott and we'll see if there's any issues that are waiting triage and discuss them. + +Scott Carruthers: All Sounds good. Thanks proactively I got into the support repo and the issues that are awaiting triage and we have a few more that way. Did prior and in previous weeks but I think they're actually should be able to go through pretty quickly. So as you can see, we have five that are awaiting tree. I shall just go through these one at a time. So Tyler, this looks like you already have assigned. So this is an issue for + +Scott Carruthers: Pot, stability issues. So this is an investigation that we're doing internally to See how we can eliminate now that we can eliminate but try to reduce the occurrences out of memory issues as much as possible. So we've Been doing some internal investigation about using recently introduced Kubernetes. Host swap files and things of that nature to try to. Alleviate as much as possible, some of the GPU AI workloads that are encountering out of memory issues. So this is still under investigation and yesterday, Tyler created an issue for us. So again tower it looks like you've already done. Assignment. So I'll just take this out of a waiting triage and put it into the label with the provider label. And let's say it as a P1 as well. So that also good. + +Tyler Wright: And then I've also added this to the product and engineering roadmap because I know this is something that's a higher priority for the core engineering team, so I didn't want to triage it all the way and prioritize it. But I knew who was going to be working on it. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, that sounds Not true. Prior gives the ability to go through it during the section. So, yeah, that's probably a good call. Okay, so first one down. So we'll go back and go back to other. Issues that are awaiting triage. the first one so I did again, I went through some of these pretty quickly before. This session tower. I'm not sure if this is something that you want to handle. So if you read through this quickly, somebody opened a issues because they were going through a, quote, a Coinbase mission. And if you read through this, it sounds like during a portion of it, they accidentally sent akt to instead of their own address after, I think this is when the mission is completed, they send funds used during the mission to their + +Scott Carruthers: Back to their account and they sent it to I think a corn base source address instead of a destination address of their own wallet. So, If you look through this, we're only talking about three Akt. I believe this is all this user is concerned about. So I would think if it's truly only three Akt that we could probably facilitate given that three Akt back. I'm just talking it up as a Simple mistake. But anyways, this is something that you want me to take out a way in triage and I can assign it to yourself, Tyler. And you can Follow up, or + + +### 00:05:00 + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. Yeah, That works. I saw this issues yesterday and I've already taken some steps behind the scenes to try to figure out how to address this. I don't know if the support repo was a proper place for this, but we'll just keep it here for the time being until it gets resolved. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. Yeah. I don't think probably was the proper place but at this point it's probably just easier to deal with it here and close it. And Try to do anything else. So yeah, that sounds good. I'm not sure. I guess I'll just do it as a P2. It's not really something that we would just sign that to otherwise for a label, but I'll set it as a little priority. P2 and assign it to you, Tyler. So, I think that's all this necessary for that. Go back and so that should bring us down to three items awaiting triage. So I saw this Issues of the Prater app, not working. + +Scott Carruthers: When a fresh wallet, operation is conducted in a couple. I didn't really go into the details of this. So it looks like there's a lot of information. So again, I don't looks like actually Jigars already responded and looked like he was confused about the issues. is not Prater but anyways, it looks like Jagar has already engaged on this, so I'll go up and take this out of The waiting triage, and I'll do it as a. P2 again and also the repos and Issues related to Prater or possibly not. But it only said, was they the thought? And if Garza day on this, I'll assign it to himself. + +Scott Carruthers: this again, isn't really an issue. I'm kind of just scrolling through this in real time. And the most consequential update here is from Jakar. And again, it looks like he believes that this is a couple or issue prater, any questions or any further discussion necessary on this. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, that's interesting. That's three weeks old and we should have encounter that during the last triage, possibly Got taken out of a waiting triage for a period time and then put back in it. But anyways, it's a sign now and it looks like currently we're just a waiting for they user to respond. To jakarta's update. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, so if we go back in and take a look at the remaining items and awaiting triage, that brings us down to two, So, these are again issues that I'm just really reviewing in real time. I remember especially the one from Ada Plug I remember coming up during The last session that we had couple ago, this support session from a couple weeks ago. And I'm not familiar with this. So I'm just gonna take a quick look, so I'll see for deployment deposit without expiration outputs, erroneous date. + +Scott Carruthers: That's interesting. I'm not sure that I have ever created Aussie or an authorized spend without a expiration. So possibly this is just a edge case that hasn't been tested or looked at prior so I will. + +Scott Carruthers: Sign our term myself to this. + +Scott Carruthers: And so this is Aussie issues. So I'll set this as a P2 and I will put it as + +Scott Carruthers: This is put it in the notary bow. So, I Get identical waiting triage. So again, this isn't something that I've looked at on. I can definitely do some testing of this myself. If anyone on the call is encountered this or anyone has any thoughts on this? I'll take a pause here. Please let us know otherwise. I'll try to reproduce it and again it probably is an edge case where rare to create an authorized spend without a expiration date. So it looks like when Max was testing this, he kind of found a edge case and I'm actually not even sure that this is a functionality issue or if it's just a display issue, I spend is created without an exploration date. If you were to query that, Authorized spend on chain. It might have the correct. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Scott Carruthers: Authorization date. But it's just, the CLI is output in incorrect date. Obviously that would have to be tested but any other Thoughts or questions or concerns on this? + +Scott Carruthers: And with that, that should bring us down to Single item awaiting triage. So I remember this being brought up and they support call last week or a couple weeks ago. So I'm just gonna refresh my memory. So inconsistent average block time values between the cost console and the bit scripts. There's an existent inconsistency and average time, use her caching block. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay. + +Scott Carruthers: so impact, while this discrepancy between those block times may appear minor signify affects pricing consistency, so I think the + +Scott Carruthers: I guess and so this is something that obviously I could take offline and think about Further. So I understand the ramification of the block size time when the pricing script is using it and calcula Average block time. For pricing consideration as a pricing calculations. not exactly sure what they ramification or the consequence of Different block time, being displayed within console would be sorry for that. And raise some, I'm gonna go back to go ahead. Andy. + +Andrey Arapov: Yeah, just like the big engine script, it uses this pricing equation. For making sure the amount of blocks it will give for the deployment. the smaller blocks, you getting a block. and if you are setting the bit pricing script to something that you expect to give one price and then on the console, you would see Okay, you're deployment Will Expire would say slightly northern slightly later if there is a scrupon sim between the pricing conversation so that's what he probably meant. And yeah,… + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: I think we should really use the same value there and there and probably The best case is probably to update our net repo the single source of truth + +Andrey Arapov: we have not repos mainnet and sandbox and maybe create a little file with block size. Maybe I'll put it there so that, the script and decide will just probably the same Just an idea. + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah, as you were beginning to speak. So I was trying to correlate. So what is the ramification of the console? Using a different block. So obviously, they + +Scott Carruthers: Main concern would be they block time and the price script calculation. So I was just trying. Why are we concerned about the? Block size calculation within Console. But as you say that, I think this is just a matter of when console plays estimated time, Of lifetime. Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: Yeah. Yeah that's the point. so there is a discrepancy then the provider would be reason. Let's say higher or lower. What is to digital element and on the console we would see It took quite slightly different. I mean if you are actually locating it manually, it's one thing. And the second thing is that some might be calculating something like an Excel sheet and using the Smarties for, we're kind of determining for how long they are deployment will run. but, + +Scott Carruthers: Yeah. Yeah. + +Andrey Arapov: But yeah, it's + +Scott Carruthers: I definitely get at that, If no other consequence, it's lean into erroneous estimations within console of how long the deployment lifetime would be based on average block time and the amount of funds in escrow so yeah, yeah, I get it. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Scott Carruthers: So I have assigned that again to myself and our tour and put it as a P2 and they know repito Any other? Thoughts are discussion points on that issue. + +Scott Carruthers: With that usually at this point. So I'm just going to go back and send a check but that should complete our tree housing activities for this session. Usually, at this point, I also Just open the floor to anyone in the audience. Is there either an items that we just covered that? We now want to revisit? Or are there any issues that we didn't cover that were not a waving triage but just some other issues that there's interest in discussing this morning. + +Scott Carruthers: Okay, if there's nothing else, I think we're done with treating Tower and I'll hand it back to you. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect, thank you very much. + +Tyler Wright: At this point, we usually see a perfect timing because we just added another insider vanguard during this part. after we + +Tyler Wright: Triage any issues, awaiting triage. Usually, we try to see if there's anything in discord telegram, or any other support related channels that should be discussed with this group or anybody listening later. I just want to see if there was anything in discord or telegram, that anybody has seen from new and existing users. That might be worth calling out here today. I know that, members of the core team as well, the community have seen some issues related to AI deployments and so, again some investigation is Scott mentioned is being done on Scott's stability related to those AI deployments. So that's something that we've seen from potential customers, especially in the AI space potential partners, rather. And so that's something that the core team is looking to, with high priority. I want to see if there's anything else anybody + +Tyler Wright: Seeing from a behavioral standpoint or just an in general going on and discord or other channels that might be worth calling out. + +Tyler Wright: If not, again, please feel like you can use a six support channel to talk about anything that you see in discord or other channels. That might be worth calling out talking in more detail, etc. + +Tyler Wright: I know there'll just had a couple of folks, just much appreciate you for joining. We have already gone through issues that are awaiting triage inside the support repo. We've talked about various issues in detail. We're now at the portion of the agenda where we're trying to see if there's anything themes or otherwise. And anybody is seen in discord telegram or other channels from a support standpoint, it should be called out. I know there's a number of folks here that are very active in discord and other channels. So again, I don't want to call anybody because I know the folks might be doing other things, but I just want to see if there's any Being behaviors. + +Tyler Wright: Kind of concepts that folks have seen regularly and discord or other channels that might be worth updating documentation or calling out or questions based upon again, things that anybody's seen from the community or potential partners. + +Tyler Wright: It's not then again I do want to call out the insiders vanguards and other members of the community that do it just a great job of just answering questions and providing support and telegram again Discord is where ers when many of the folks that are providing deploying on a class network, kind of ask specific questions, Get feedback. I do want to shout out the insiders again the vanguards and for all that they do providing almost 24 seven support again. There's some other folks that are on this call that I've just been a + +Tyler Wright: An extreme value add and just when somebody has provider specific questions or deployment specific questions, being able to answer them, Give guidance on providers setups, all that kind of stuff. So again those community efforts go a long way in keeping new people engaged and existing people engaged. So I know that the community as a whole appreciates those efforts But I just want to see if there's anything that anybody wants to discuss in more detail. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Tyler Wright: If not then again, we've moved the SIG, clients meeting to next month, where I'm sure there'll be a number of updates related to cost console and some other items again. If anybody has any specific issues related to the console, there's an ecosystem console panel and discord as well as the console repo where you can create an issue that, the product team will continue to look at monitor. + +Tyler Wright: One other thing of note is again, as we prepare ourselves for the Cosmos SDK, 47 upgrade there is going to be some testing. We talked about this at the beginning of the month in SIG chain. But we're at the point where we're going to be calling upon some folks, from the community that have shown interest in helping to test out functionality related to Cosmos Institute K47 upgrade. So, please look out for announcements in discord and other channels again, if you want to get involved, feel free to reach out to me. But we're gonna put together a small contingent to folks that, are technical enough to understand the CLI set up a validator can do a number of tasks and again, we're gonna + +Tyler Wright: Create a place where folks can start to test out items related to Cosmos. Sdk47. So I'm just a couple of announcements related to again console and some other efforts, being done by the core team. Is there anything else that anybody wants to discuss right to support? + +Tyler Wright: At this time, any other outstanding issues and maybe have already been triage, anybody wants to discuss. + +Tyler Wright: If not, then I'll certainly let you all go a little bit early. If anybody has anything that they see in discord or any support related issues, again, feel free to reach out to an inside. Our vanguard that can help you with the potential solution is escalation path from there to get members of the core team involved. And again, we can feel free to create an issue that will be triage and can be commented on. If you already create an issue, please feel free to look back at that issue and see if there's comments that have been added, that might need again attention. But as I've said earlier, much appreciated, everybody's time today. Thank you, Scott for leading us through issues, awaiting triage, and support repo. And again, Thank you to all that, provide feedback, provide guidance inside of discord. It goes such a long way and I get messages all the time from people privately about, Hey I had no idea what I was doing. This person helped me really appreciate + +Tyler Wright: It goes a long way and a much, appreciate all those that are participating. I hope everyone has a great rest of the day again. feel free to let me know if you need anything but we'll continue to talk on discord and elsewhere. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, have a good day. + +Scott Carruthers: Thanks everyone. + +Tyler Wright: Have a good week, everyone. + +Andrey Arapov: Say goodbye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:38 👋 diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/README.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/README.md index df0bd065..50ea4b3e 100644 --- a/wg-Akash-youtube/README.md +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/README.md @@ -15,6 +15,11 @@ This working group is responsible for managing and improving the Akash youtube C | #1 | Tuesday, July 23, 2024 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/001-2024-07-23.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/001-2024-07-23.md#transcript) | Coming Soon | #2 | Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/002-2024-07-30.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/002-2024-07-30.md#transcript) | coming soon | #3 | Tuesday, August 6, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/003-2024-08-06.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/003-2024-08-06.md#transcript) | coming soon +| #4 | Tuesday, August 13, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | coming soon | coming soon | coming soon +| #5 | Tuesday, August 20, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | coming soon | coming soon | coming soon +| #6 | Tuesday, September 3, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md#transcript) | [Link](https://57ao2jjfdga5witta4xaimiflj3cnwrmdmvrtxwhsdckbzyxy2kq.arweave.net/78DtJSUZgdsicwcuBDEFWnYm2iwbKxnex5DEoOcXxpU) +| #7 | Tuesday, September 17, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | coming soon | coming soon | coming soon +| #8 | Tuesday, October 1, 2024 8:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md) | [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md#transcript) | [Link](https://pdul7rir4hfznhgpmdrmuzxiourbbjkehk343j7ssvg2ei2ywjya.arweave.net/eOi_xRHhy5acz2DiymbodSIQpUQ6t82n8pVNoiNYsnA) diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..3e63a957 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/005-2024-08-20.md @@ -0,0 +1,200 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #5 + +## Agenda +- Review progress from last week’s meeting. +- Discuss uploading steering committee meetings to YouTube. +- Presentation of finalized YouTube shorts by Robert Del Rey. +- Addressing comments on the YouTube channel. +- Phase two of YouTube channel updates starting in September. +- Frequency of future calls and engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://33g64kf23glcf6lvownakezsu2y43cnrfammlnlxnxx3hxkskepa.arweave.net/3s3uKLrZliL5dXWaBRMyprHNibEoGMW1d23vs91SUR4) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- Rodri R +- oo o +- B S +- musiclakshmikant + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Progress from Last Week**: + - Robert Del Rey has not yet uploaded the steering committee calls to YouTube as the graphic assets, including opening and closing screens, are still pending. + - YouTube does not allow post-upload edits for intro/outro screens, so the assets need to be finalized before uploading. + - Robert may take the lead in creating these assets if needed. + +- **YouTube Shorts Presentation**: + - Robert shared the final versions of three YouTube shorts, which are now ready for publishing. The feedback from the previous meeting was implemented, and the shorts have been improved in quality and presentation. + - The shorts are currently unlisted on YouTube, available only to those with the link. + - Robert shared one short during the meeting for feedback and confirmed that the other two will be uploaded soon. + +- **Comments on the YouTube Channel**: + - Robert noted that while comments on the YouTube channel are minimal (one to two per week), questions about becoming a provider on the Akash Network are common. + - A discussion followed about how to best respond to these comments. Rodri suggested keeping responses short and guiding people to the Akash Discord, where they can ask more detailed questions. + - Rodri also mentioned the existence of an earnings calculator for providers, which could be useful in responding to these questions. + +- **Phase Two of YouTube Updates**: + - Phase two of the YouTube channel revamp is set to begin in September, which will involve more frequent content uploads and community engagement. + - During this phase, the team will focus on repurposing and re-uploading videos, sharing content across platforms, and promoting it on Twitter and other social media. + - Robert encouraged everyone to be prepared for the increased activity during phase two. + +- **Future Call Frequency**: + - The frequency of the SIG calls will change from weekly to biweekly moving forward, as the current phase is focused on assessing the channel and preparing for more active content creation. + - Robert suggested that the call frequency may increase again once phase two begins in September. + +- **Omniflix TV**: + - Robert introduced the idea of using Omniflix TV, a platform in the Cosmos ecosystem, as an additional venue for posting Akash videos. It offers engagement features like tips and community interaction. + - He is considering uploading Akash videos to Omniflix TV alongside YouTube, as it wouldn’t require much additional effort. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Follow up with Dennis on the graphic assets for the steering committee call videos. If no progress, create the assets personally. + - Upload the finalized YouTube shorts once ready. + - Attend the design working group meeting to discuss branding and graphic assets. + - Once assets are available, upload steering committee call recordings with intro/outro screens and uniform thumbnails. + +- **General**: + - Continue keeping YouTube comment responses short and direct users to the Akash Discord for more detailed discussions. + - Prepare for phase two of the YouTube channel update starting in September, with more active content uploads and social media promotion. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: All right everybody. Thank you so much for joining these I cast YouTube working group on this call We discuss all things about a cash YouTube at the moment. The plan is to revamp the channel make it look better make it attract more people. And overall overall revamping their Cash YouTube channel and improves their content quality. So yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you for joining. So guys I don't have many topics for today as you can see Tyler's not joining Dennis. It's not joining either. We're still trying to figure out. the best time for this call So bear with us for a second. + +Robert Del Rey: yeah last week. + +Robert Del Rey: What did we do last week? Let me open up my agenda? + +Robert Del Rey: awesome All that's quick. I remember I show you some shorts that are gonna be available in the cash due to page. we had two items to follow up on this week. One of them was uploading the sitting comedy course YouTube. I gotta say I haven't uploaded them yet. Because I still don't have the graphics to upload them. so basically instead of just uploading the calls as they are. We want to edit the calls a little to Opening screen and add a closiness screen So until I get that I won't be able to upload. the video + +Robert Del Rey: Is it the tireless screen that we still needed when you say that Tyler's screen is youre Or you're referring to an intro S3 in the actual video. + +Robert Del Rey: that little intro that Tyler talked about I still haven't got those assets so. + +Robert Del Rey: I thought I could upload the videos to YouTube and then edit the videos. But that is not possible in YouTube. If we want to add something like that to the video, it has to be added before we upload you. So that's why I have an uploaded because I don't have the assets as soon as I get the assets. I will upload them. I believe I will end up doing them myself maybe who knows? But yeah, that. I can tell you though that the three YouTube shorts are ready for publishing after getting your feedback guys. This short look way better now, and I'm ready for posting. Let me go ahead and share my screen weekly with you so you can see it as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, this should be the ones. boasts one second guys + +Robert Del Rey: second + +Robert Del Rey: I had a pride. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, I will share my screen. Okay. Okay. What's your message? + +Robert Del Rey: Let me know if you can see it guys. + +Robert Del Rey: You said? Okay. Hey don't play with my man. you didn't see in the car. + +Robert Del Rey: on the environment another day alive All So let me show you guys I uploaded the three shorts. They are unlisted at the moment. So. Nobody can see them only people with the link. And yeah, let's see this one. The quality is a little bit better. also presentation + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I believe that so yeah guys that is one of the best shorts at the moment. I would only show you this one. The other two were fixed Which upload them soon? + +Robert Del Rey: But yeah, that's the thing. I want to share with you. Like I said, this call is going to be a little short today. There are some conflicting calls which are affecting the attendance, but That is one that those are the topics from last week the graphic assets, which we don't have yet in the YouTube short spinal versions. + +Robert Del Rey: Besides that another topic that I wanted to bring to the table. It's about comments and replies on the YouTube channel at the moment. We're not getting that many comments, but still we get one or two comments a week. + +Robert Del Rey: at the moment. Nobody's responding them. So let me show you one question. + +Robert Del Rey: That there is at the moment. for example Let me just share the screen again. + +Robert Del Rey: I'd say we'll just share this thing again. It's easier to explain that way. And you see the screen guys? + +Robert Del Rey: I see a thumbs Thanks, Rodney. So at the moment, for example, we got this month. We got these two comments. These one is three weeks ago. It says this video needs to be remade. I watched the video and I thought I agree the video looks a little blurry. And it's very hard to follow the instructions. So I do agree with this guy that the video will be uploaded again. Now the comment that I want to grieve to bring to your attention is usually most of the comments are related to this can I use a regular computer with a 360 and put it on the Akash Network? Usually most of the questions are in this line. how can I provide on a cash? What computer do I need to provide on my cash things like that? + +Robert Del Rey: So what I wanted to ask you a specifically rodri, I wanted to get your input on this. How do you believe it's the best way to respond to this questions because the answer can get too big in my opinion? For example, there are many angles that you can answer this question. For example. You can ask the guy if if they want to make money in a question Network. And you're gonna provide with just a regular laptop. It's gonna be harder for you because you're gonna be against people with the big equipments you see + +Robert Del Rey: But if you want to just send out a cash and just know the flow of it and how you use it. It's certainly fine. If you connect a regular computer, we have 30 60. Am I early? Am I getting it right? So what I wanted to confirm is how it should respond, Should we give the answer short? and guide people to other places in the community or should we respond with a big text giving them all the possible details that they might. and the third question Who should answer this comments in their Cash YouTube channel? So I'll leave it up to you in case you want to share something. If not, that's totally fine. + +Rodri R: I'm an opinion and keeping a short would be better. especially if you put a text and on the video then maybe gonna take a while to read what they're gonna have to posit or something. Maybe point someone to the Discord. But maybe mostly short answers I think would be better. And what he said, it's right. I mean if you want to earn akt and to become a provider. If you just have your normal computer laptop. It's gonna be hard to compete with the larger providers. Although they could do some kind of maybe mining or other stuff that could earn them to make by deploying akt by a normal laptop or + + +### 00:10:00 + +Rodri R: earning a kitty would be earning something else, but you would be deploying on a cash. Yeah, it's kind of hard to keep it short because like you said there's many ways that can be done. + +Robert Del Rey: alternative with you, man That maybe we should route them to. other places like this or in there they can chat and ask all the questions that they want And this score we'll have to recognize that this or a cash Discord is one of the most helpful and responsive discourse in the crypto Market in my opinion. So against that yeah, like you say rodri's will keep the answer shorts and Route people to Discord. it's gonna give us a great result in my opinion. as if there is a calculators to let people estimate their earnings. I don't know if there is a calculator for that. Maybe rodri can share some like yeah. + +Rodri R: Yeah, there's a calculator in prayer app. I think it's now in the console as well. Yeah, there's a culture. I don't have the link right now, but there is one. + +Robert Del Rey: more than moving Thank you. Rodri. Okay, okay. + +Robert Del Rey: You need one second guys and high Tyler. + +Rodri R: I'll share the link to calculator later, but I'm at a Burger King right now taking care of the child in the playground. + +Robert Del Rey: And that's looking fine. Thanks for sharing. + +Robert Del Rey: I wouldn't mind having a burger right now, honestly. although it's + +Rodri R: I agree one now playing. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay guys, so just a little recap. God. Okay. What was it? + +Robert Del Rey: can you say that again rodried? What kind of content you're referring to right now? + +Robert Del Rey: thank you so much at the moment. Were not uploading anything. + +Robert Del Rey: in this time, we're just assessing the channels what we can do. Right now we're focused on the formatting of the videos. We are focused on the titles what they say. We're focus on the descriptions on the videos what they will say and around September we're gonna start phase two and during phase two we're gonna be more active with content. So I believe that that's the time where you can contribute way more because we're gonna repurpose the video. We're gonna pre upload them. And we also going to share in Twitter and other areas. So yeah, this is gonna be a big game for guys. So yeah be ready because when we start we're really gonna start if that makes sense. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, I was gonna do a little recap for the people joining later. Basically we cover. + +Robert Del Rey: The last week items Facebook about the graphic assets. We will include in the videos to be of love with it. I just clarify that when you upload a video to YouTube. There are some minor things that you can edit. but you cannot do a big editing For example, if I upload a video and I decided I want to add a new Opening screen or a new closet screen. I won't be able to do that. I will need to delete the video and edit the video and we upload again. So just guys to be aware about that. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: so one of the shorts that we're doing to highlight those sites of information in the info regarding the page. At the moment I did three shorts with one of the correct thoughts. And yeah, you saw the final version. It's later on YouTube. It hasn't been uploaded yet. But And we spoke about how we will handle the comments and responses. I totally agree with you. + +Robert Del Rey: guys Sorry, I just got a message. Iteran agreed with you guys rodri. We should keep the answers short and and Route people Are shots in the shots, they will have more chances to ask more broader questions. I guess go ahead project. + +Robert Del Rey: totally alrighty + +Robert Del Rey: so those are all the topics that I had for today. I'm just gonna open it up. To that you in a session in case you guys have questions or ideas now, it's a good time to share them. But before that, let me advise you guys the frequency of these call. It's gonna be change. + +Robert Del Rey: As I was saying Oakley, at the moment we're just reviewing the channel assessing the things that we would do. However, we're going to be way more active in the phase two for September or around that day. So the frequency of this call is gonna be changed at the moment instead of being weekly as we were doing it. It's gonna be By weekly now, it's gonna be every other week Guess one week. No. Or every two weeks after it in all the ways that you can say it I guess so, yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe after this month or maybe when we start the next phase and we need to give more updates. Maybe we can increase the frequency. Maybe we leave it that way. Who knows? But yeah at the moment the frequency of this call is going to be changed to apply weekly. That is one note that I have to share with you now. Yeah, we can answer to the Q&A session. So let me know guys anything else you want to touch about the attached YouTube channel + +Robert Del Rey: All right. If there is not that thoroughly fine. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, yeah. another thing that I have in the back of my head, but I haven't would much effort into it is only flicks TV, on Netflix is an old partner of a cash and somewhat big in the cosmos ecosystem. They have business streaming platform. And projects can upload their videos and there is no a cash presence in that platform. So something I'm really considering. is that we should at least use it as an extra platform to post a cash on and if we publish a video on a cash YouTube, I don't see why not. We couldn't publish on Netflix TV as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, it's very engaging also people can give you tips. You can also convert your videos it gives you some other ways to engage with your community. So just dropping out the idea. It's not something like I'm serious seriously considering but something that It wouldn't require the X-ray for honestly, so that's why I'm sharing it And Yeah, the next working group called then it's gonna be on next month September the Third. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: and yeah, we already guys in the meantime. We have the cash YouTube this course Channel. And feel free to drop your questions or comments in there, too. Now I could see a question in the shed. Do you have a link to their hash style sheet I can try to make the tireless screen on camera if you want. Thank you so much for approaching b s i can well. + +Robert Del Rey: the guidelines I don't have the guidelines. We will need to talk with Dennis about that but I can send you the brand assets so you can get started doing some drop if you want to I have done some myself so I could share them with you so you can have an idea and I'm using the last designs as a guide. Let me give you a visual example. For example, I did one thumbnail and I got inspired by this. Brand design. These are for example if you see the last videos of a cache. the thumbnails I try to do I want to be in line with this. So maybe if you want to do something. + +Robert Del Rey: It can be something similar to this and then you can share it in the cash Discord Channel in the next call and we go from there. or maybe we could take this to the design working group called tomorrow. I don't know. It's your choice. I'll be there tomorrow as well. So. Yeah. that could be a good place to get a started. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for stepping up All So guys anything else you want to touch on before we leave these two experience? + +Robert Del Rey: If not, that's I will tell you my promises for the next two weeks. I will join the design working group called tomorrow to follow up on these designs. As soon as I have the designs. I will go ahead then and upload the steering Community calls the YouTube channel. A Tyler. Let me ask you my man, and you don't have to jump in if you don't want to maybe you can write the message. But besides the steering committee calls are there other call recordings you would like to upload Cash YouTube. + +Tyler Wright: I think that's a group decision. Eventually. I've thought about maybe all of them but I feel like that might get too cluttered. Maybe we just start with the steering committee and then we can make sure that it links to the community repo and go from there. But if anybody here thinks that we should be adding other more specific cigs, like sick providers get a lot of traction a lot of those things get a lot of traction so we could talk about it here for But steering committee. I thought was a great starting point because it's like a culmination of everything that goes on. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Tyler, and I Agree, we can. Start with that one and go from there. So yeah, let's do that. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, guys, let's talk into weeks the recording for this should be available soon. In the comments for these calls should be on Discord as well. I'm inviting you again to get involved in the conversation in their Cash YouTube. And again my DMs are open and see you sing in two weeks guys if not sooner. with that being said have a nice weekend and see you in the mirrors. All right. + +Robert Del Rey: my pleasure by + +oo o: You give them? + + +### Meeting ended after 00:24:49 👋 + diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..ffd32ac7 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/006-2024-09-03.md @@ -0,0 +1,256 @@ + +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #6 + +## Agenda +- Progress updates from the last meeting. +- Uploading steering committee calls to YouTube. +- Graphic assets for thumbnails, intros, and closing cards. +- Automating video editing tasks. +- Creating a backlog for managing tasks. +- Omniflix TV updates. +- Handling YouTube comments and community engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://57ao2jjfdga5witta4xaimiflj3cnwrmdmvrtxwhsdckbzyxy2kq.arweave.net/78DtJSUZgdsicwcuBDEFWnYm2iwbKxnex5DEoOcXxpU) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Joann Woods +- oo o + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Steering Committee Call Uploads**: + - Robert confirmed that he now has access to download the steering committee calls. These videos will be uploaded to YouTube soon, after adding the necessary graphic assets. + - There are ongoing efforts to create the required thumbnails, intro cards, and closing cards, which will be used for all the videos. A community member is working on this, and Robert is waiting for their submission. + +- **Automating Video Edits**: + - A question was raised by oo o about automating the addition of intro and outro cards across multiple videos. Robert explained that currently, this needs to be done manually, as YouTube doesn’t allow post-upload edits of this nature. + - He encouraged the group to share any tools that might facilitate bulk editing but will proceed manually for now. + +- **Task Management and Backlog**: + - Robert proposed creating a backlog document to track future projects and ideas, ensuring that important tasks are not forgotten. + - He mentioned the possibility of using project management tools such as Asana or GitHub Projects. oo o suggested that GitHub Projects could be a suitable option, especially since Akash already uses GitHub for other purposes. + - The backlog will include tasks like YouTube collaborations and new video ideas, allowing the team to prioritize and execute them in the future. + +- **Omniflix TV Update**: + - Robert shared the good news that Akash Network now has an official channel on Omniflix TV, a streaming platform in the Cosmos ecosystem. + - All Akash videos uploaded to YouTube will also be posted on Omniflix TV, potentially increasing the channel's reach within the Cosmos community. + - This effort supports Omniflix, an old partner of Akash. + +- **YouTube Comments**: + - Robert addressed recent YouTube comments, including a frequently asked question about whether someone can use a regular computer with a 360 graphic card on the Akash network. + - A generic response was developed, encouraging everyone to provide what resources they have but also explaining that higher-capacity equipment offers better chances of earning AKT. + - Each response includes links to Akash documentation and an invitation to join the Akash Discord for further technical assistance. + +- **Call Frequency Update**: + - The group discussed the recent change in meeting frequency from weekly to biweekly. Robert confirmed that this change will be reflected on the Akash Discord to avoid confusion. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Continue working on uploading the steering committee call videos after receiving the required graphic assets. + - Update the Akash Discord to reflect the biweekly meeting schedule. + - Finalize a backlog document using GitHub Projects to organize future tasks for the Akash YouTube channel. + - Continue addressing YouTube comments and directing viewers to the Akash Discord for further engagement. + +- **oo o**: + - Share any available tools that may help automate the video editing process. + - Continue offering feedback on YouTube content and process improvements. + +- **General**: + - Monitor and engage with the Akash Omniflix TV channel as it develops. + - Prepare for additional video content and collaborations based on the backlog. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: It's been recorded and transcribed. Hello, everybody. And welcome to Hatch by weekly YouTube in this call, we discuss all things related to a cash due to We are on a mission on revamping the YouTube channel. We're focusing on improving the content quality, we want to increase the engagement and align the channel with a cash network score. Make it easier for people to find this channel and get educated about a cash. So yeah, today's agenda, it's a big short. I'm just gonna follow up on some islands from last week and some things that hopefully we will. In the following two weeks. Thank you everybody for joining. + +Robert Del Rey: This call right now, live. On September 3rd. And also thank you for those listening to the recording later. We appreciate you a lot in the cash community. So, at the moment, what we're doing, We want to upload the steering commit Working group calls, that's monthly call, that happens and most of the community gets involved. Most of the core team gets involved. Most of the occasion, cider skip involved. so, To start overloading new content to the Cash YouTube channel. We want to upload the city This theory community call. so, I haven't uploaded then yet so my bad, please forgive me. + +Robert Del Rey: But good news. I have access now to download those calls, I didn't have access, but now I have the access to download the files and we will Update them, in the coming days. another thing that is spending for me to get If the graphic assets at the moment, there are two people working in the graphic assets. Those are thumbnails. + +Robert Del Rey: Thumbnails and intro and closing cards for the videos. So, the thumbnail is the image you see before clicking on a video. Somebody from the community is working on that. And they will send that to me. + +Robert Del Rey: The intro and closing cards, It's like I don't know, Maybe you have seen a YouTube video before the person in the video, those a quick overview and then you get an in a TV channel, I don't know, an intro, right? So these persons working on an interview about a cash, so we can add that to all the videos. It's something simple. It's like a logo animation. That is going to be in all the videos. So yeah, I'm going in on those two graphic assets so that we can start uploading those Syrian community videos into their cash YouTube channel. That's the main stuff at the moment. Then we will move on to other videos, so I stay tuned for that. I will discover quickly in case. Somebody here has any question. + +Robert Del Rey: I see a hand. go ahead. + +oo o: So the intro and exit cards, When you're adding them, is it going to be automated? + +Robert Del Rey: What you mean automated? + +oo o: instead of having to do in manual one after the other is their way to do it in bulk you just select all the files and then from song so you add it to the beginning and then to the end of everything. + +Robert Del Rey: let me tell you, that'd be great And if you have a tool that can live, that can help me doing something like that, please share it. But at the moment I will need to do it one by one. I will need to download the video and manually, add the intro and outer part to all the ways. Then I need to export and then I need to upload to you. In there. Yeah. + +oo o: That's like a. + +Robert Del Rey: it's gonna be some work. Yeah. But we can do it. And, the only reason why we're doing it that way. It's because once you upload a video to YouTube, There is no way to edit the video, doing some heavy editing. There is no way you can do that. You can add subtitles, you can add Some other stuff, some atoms, right? But you cannot do like that kind of editing once you upload a video interview. So Looking forward to get those assets this weekend and start uploading those to the channel. one thing I wanted to ask Tyler suddenly he's not here, he's on vacation. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: But I would drop it here so we can be in the recording is that I believe it's necessary that we have a backlog document. because, at the moment right now, we're just Sharing ideas and brainstorming ideas. But nothing is on any document or future reference. So, just to avoid that, we forget about any important stuff that we want to do. I believe it's important to have a back in The backlog is a document. That you add all the things that you want to do. But you cannot do right? Because An example is that right now we are working in the city community called Videos, Right? But let's say we also want to do YouTube shortly. + +Robert Del Rey: And we also want to do collaboration with other YouTube. At the moment. We are not focusing on that but we understand that it's important for the channel. So, we're gonna add those items. so, once we're done with what we're doing right now, We can just go to the backlog and see what is the next thing that we should do to keep the channel? hopefully done next but yeah, I really having a vacuum of it. Yeah, you want to just turn it? + +oo o: so some of these are Just this project management software. + +Robert Del Rey: Come again. + +oo o: What do you call it? with cards for those, you have need to do + +Robert Del Rey: forget about your stuff or you're talking about asana, for example, + +oo o: Yeah, something like I think asana and get similar software like that should do with that. Or I don't know if Github has something similar But asana and… + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. + +oo o: if that sounds like something that you will be, the thing is. if they offer free option large enough use for a lot of people to Have access to. + +oo o: . + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. And I get it and Astana has a free option but it's only 30 days that you can use it. You have all the features… + +oo o: Yeah. Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: but it's only days after the 30 days you have to pay. But on github I send you to The projects used. + +oo o: Okay, that + +oo o: Okay okay. Yeah. Yeah. Data projects or something similar? Okay. Yes yes. + +Robert Del Rey: I believe we could use the Github projects. I mean, we're using it right now but maybe you could use it a little bit more and… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: get more advantage, a son because Applesana in the past and… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: it's really cool to stay updated and current with the past. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for the suggestion. So yeah, you can see in the Github board. You have items up next in progress and completed. For example, one thing I do after I'm done with the YouTube call, and the ceiling call is that I come here to this dashboard. I look for the YouTube card and I add the comments for example. Today, we have this call After this call is done, I would go to there and write something like, Hey, they had a call and we spoke about this and these and that. Yeah, and when I have a big update, I added their. So again, I believe we could use more peace or only to manage the products what you say. + +oo o: Yeah, that makes sense. And actually totally forgot about guitar projects. obviously is what I've not used that much up so it a cash. + +Robert Del Rey: In about Tyler. No wait. Wait. + +Robert Del Rey: You are Nate, right? but, Who's Oakley? Are you okay? Also or cleanse it someone else. I believe it's someone else. Right? + + +### 00:10:00 + +oo o: I play this meeting. Sorry, I did not know some mute likely this me rightly,… + +Robert Del Rey: Okay,… + +oo o: this, my handle + +Robert Del Rey: thank you for confirming men. So yeah, about Tyler, yeah, he's been on vacation… + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: since last week. He's not fully away. I mean, he might respond to your messages but he should be back by the end of the week. + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: 100% by idea that week. you can send him a message and… + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: he might respond. + +oo o: All right. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, maybe we could talk to him about this project Is a project manager for clock. So yeah, He can definitely share some feedbacks with us. + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: All right. So yeah. Moving on. Let me share some brief updates that we Remember this call has been changed. In the past, we had it every week, it was up weekly calls but we decided to change that to my weekly said. So we are having this call. Every other week. guess one week. So yeah, that's the cost frequency for this community efforts just so I have any news. I already told you that I'm able to download them working group videos, that's progressed. but the other good news that I have, is that Cash network. Has an official channel in omniflex TV. + +Robert Del Rey: For those of you that don't know, only flix TB, it's like a streaming platform done by the people from the Omnitrix team. They are. A very old partner of a cash and We open up a channel in their platform. The mission. + +oo o: Mmm. + +Robert Del Rey: I mean the objective of that is basically uploading all the videos we have on YouTube. We want to upload them in public city hopefully that can get off some extra rich in the cosmos ecosystem. and yeah, we would support our omniflix partner So yeah, that's a good news there. And the reason why I say this is good news, It's because someone tried to do this in the past. + +Robert Del Rey: And they open an account and everything and they took the cash username. And I couldn't get it. So last week, I just spoke with a team. They did some things in the back end and we were able to get the cash official channel. So yeah, yeah. Something to celebrate. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. Yeah, pretty good. So those are the things that I have at the moment. Like I said,… + +oo o: That's great. + +Robert Del Rey: only flicks is gonna go single honestly, what has YouTube? We're going to upload all that we upload in YouTube. We are going to upload it only fixed. Hopefully we can get some support on the Twitter side of things, hopefully sack and help us sharing some things in Twitter. To get some extra rich. Hopefully, we can get the graphic assets so we can continue working in this channel. And yeah, I'm very excited. Neighborhood, you have your hand. What's up? + +oo o: Okay. yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: Attached in the you is still there. + +oo o: What happened to the Omniplex the cash educational channel on only fix. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, you're gonna continue those efforts once. Adam is fully back on action,… + +oo o: Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: we're gonna resume the cash ad. there is something that we are planning to do supposedly. You can transfer information between Akash EDU and the cash only fixed channel. So the first It is very possible that the first videos of a cash channel in Omniflicts. Are about the cash give you videos, so it's very possible that we experiment with those first. But yeah, I actually view is still there as far as I remember And yeah, I remember Adam said before he left for parental leave. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: He said that he wanted to work on this when he gets back. So, let's see how that goes. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, I saw that message, too. I was happy to see that. I haven't talked to him yet… + +oo o: All right, somebody said you notice them yesterday and… + +Robert Del Rey: but I'm waiting,… + +oo o: And discord. + +Robert Del Rey: I'm waiting for my moment. Maybe he's catching up with all of the messages and imagine you like having three months without responding to people. + +oo o: Yeah. Yeah. + +oo o: Yeah, that's gonna be like, Yeah, then I don't know who's in charge of events on discord. They need to edit the days for the YouTube working session meeting… + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for letting me know, okay? + +oo o: because it's still showing its weekly instead of weekly Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: I'll make sure that something thank Nice cash. + +Robert Del Rey: That happens, sometimes these core also acts up. yeah. Let me make sure it's reflecting by weekly calls instead of weekly. + +oo o: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: One more thing I wanted to say before we go is that last week somebody left a comment in the YouTube channel. Let me share my screen with you real quick. You let me know, you can say. + +Robert Del Rey: I mean, if you should be able to see my screen now, right? + +oo o: Sorry, I keep on forget I muted. I can see your screen. + +Robert Del Rey: No worries So here, this is The last comment we got from this person. Basically, the question is, Can you use a regular computer with a 360 + +Robert Del Rey: Graphic card I guess and put it on the cash network. + +Robert Del Rey: So, that was the question and Instead of replying yes or no. This is the answer that we gave this person. This is gonna be the generic answer or these kind of questions, depending on the question, we're gonna have different answers both about installing equipment to provide to the network. This is the generic answer. We came up with and I will read it out loud. It says, Thanks for watching out. And we encourage everybody to provide whatever resources they have available on a cash. However, the capacity of your equipment, the better chances of you earning aka So this is like the answer so they understand. That. Yeah, you can connect any computer onto a cash. but, + +Robert Del Rey: That doesn't necessarily mean that they're gonna get the man for your resources. If you're involved in the community, You can notice that I actually is very involved in getting high and equipment to provide to the network. But They can join. They can connect and they can learn what they have. So here we added the documentation. Here's how to get started. And lastly, an invitation to join the cash discord. their cash discovery is super focused on development so this is the best places to route people to answer their technical questions. So yeah, that's another update about the YouTube initiative. Slowly, we're gonna respond to all of the comments. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah, hopefully more common score, And I will stop presenting. so yeah guys, that's all that I had for you today, I gave you an update in the graphic assets and the seating community called Videos, we'll spoke a leader about having a backlog. Using project managers tools against, I will need to chat with Tyler to see what he thinks about it. And I also gave you some good news, like the Cash on the Divisional. The access to download the working group called Videos, and the comments and replies into the Cash YouTube videos. So yeah, one thing I'm gonna take action on is making sure the setting on this core reflects this call as a weekly call instead of a weekly. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, hopefully we meet again in two weeks and that's gonna be Tuesday the 17th Hopefully, we have more updates and more stuff to show off here. Again, If you have any comments, thoughts feedbacks questions concerned, regrets feel free to share them in the YouTube working group channel in a caches discord. Or send me again. I'm always available. most of the time. So, yeah. With that being said, unless anybody else has any objection, I will end this call now. So yeah, thank you guys. Have a nice day. + + +### 00:20:00 + +oo o: Live long and prosper. + +Robert Del Rey: Leave London Prosper. All right, stay safe. Thanks that thanks John. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:21:16 👋 diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..8262663c --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/008-2024-10-01.md @@ -0,0 +1,244 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #8 + +## Agenda +- Steering committee video update. +- Akash console and Praetor video plans. +- Discussions on funding and breaking down video tutorials. +- YouTube Partner Program eligibility and revenue plans. +- Backlog review for Akash YouTube content ideas. +- Updates to Featured Videos playlist. + + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Tuesday, October 01, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://pdul7rir4hfznhgpmdrmuzxiourbbjkehk343j7ssvg2ei2ywjya.arweave.net/eOi_xRHhy5acz2DiymbodSIQpUQ6t82n8pVNoiNYsnA) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- B S +- Onaji Fortune +- shiny dev + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Steering Committee Video Update**: + - Robert presented the latest updates on the steering committee videos. A total of 19 steering committee videos have been edited, including trimming dead air at the beginning and end and adding an intro/outro animation. + - Periodic call-to-action reminders appear every five minutes to encourage subscriptions and interactions. These include reminders about following Akash on social media. + - Robert is awaiting Tyler’s approval to make these videos public. They are currently unlisted, viewable only via shared links. + +- **Akash Console and Praetor Video Plans**: + - Robert discussed creating a series of videos for Akash’s primary tools, Akash Console and Praetor, noting that a single, comprehensive video might be challenging to keep updated. + - B S suggested breaking down the content into smaller segments, making it easier to update individual videos if features change. + - Robert will prepare initial drafts covering the Akash Console’s deployment features, templates, and setup procedures. He also plans to confirm if any significant updates are forthcoming for either tool to avoid creating outdated content. + +- **Funding Video for Wallet Setup**: + - There was a discussion about including a separate video to guide users on funding their Akash wallet, specifically for new users who may face difficulties during deployments due to insufficient funds. + - Robert agreed to add this video to the YouTube backlog. B S recommended including common exchanges like Coinbase in this video for a smoother onboarding process. + +- **YouTube Partner Program and Revenue Goals**: + - Robert shared the requirements for Akash’s eligibility in the YouTube Partner Program, including subscriber count, video upload frequency, watch hours, and shorts views. + - The Akash YouTube channel currently meets the subscriber threshold (over 3,600) but needs more recent uploads and higher engagement with shorts to qualify. + - There was excitement about potential revenue, which could support both the Akash community pool and content creators directly, depending on future budget allocations. + +- **Backlog and Content Planning**: + - Robert emphasized the importance of the YouTube backlog document to track content ideas and prioritize tasks. It will include ideas such as wallet funding, tutorial series for Akash Console, and other educational videos. + - B S shared the backlog link in the chat, enabling participants to add or review future content ideas. + +- **Featured Videos Playlist Update**: + - Robert added new external videos to the Featured Videos playlist, including a recent presentation by Akash’s Greg at Token 2049. + - This playlist aims to spotlight Akash-related videos hosted on other channels that garner significant viewership, further promoting Akash Network’s content. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Follow up with Tyler regarding making steering committee videos public. + - Begin drafting segmented video content for Akash Console and Praetor, confirming any upcoming updates to these tools. + - Add a separate video idea on funding Akash wallets to the backlog, covering major exchanges like Coinbase and Kraken. + - Continue engaging with YouTube comments and actively promote Akash on both YouTube and Omniflix TV. + +- **B S**: + - Provide input on video content structure as needed, ensuring tutorials are accessible and easy to update. + +- **Onaji Fortune and shiny dev**: + - Review the YouTube backlog and contribute any new content ideas or suggestions. + +- **General**: + - Engage with the Akash YouTube and Omniniflix channels, watching, liking, and commenting to help boost channel visibility. + - Promote the Akash YouTube channel on personal and professional networks to assist in meeting YouTube Partner Program eligibility requirements. + +# **Transcript** + +Robert Del Rey: And Hello everybody and welcome to today's a YouTube working Group call. This is a weekly And we chat about all A cash YouTube, the focus at the moment, it's improving the content quality. + +Robert Del Rey: In revamping the channel, Improve playlists, add new videos. Like I said, all things related to a cash YouTube My name is Del Rey. And today is October 1st. 2024. Many members of the Akash team are troubling. So it's possible that this call has low attendance, but we are recording it for people. Later. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, all right, so let's jump right into it. I will share my screen. + +Robert Del Rey: I was very excited for today's call. He proposed We've been working In the Cash Sitting Committee videos. + +Robert Del Rey: when I say B s I Denny's and all the people writing sleep to these videos So they are nineteen videos at the moment. About the steering community Maybe we can watch one now so you can notice the drill. + +Robert Del Rey: The steering community call. We had last week. I haven't got the recording of that one, but as soon as I get it, I will definitely update that to YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: That's available. So yeah, some things To notice here. Aside from the beginning, the thumbnail I already speak up spoken about this. You might not see it because of the time here but there is a forward symbol accelerate, you can see it here. I guess it's going very big and it's been accelerate, so let's do that. Let's accelerate Anyway, here you have a brief description about what we spoke about in For example, a steering community. Call number 12, cover key updates on the developer onboarding program. I guess, about that one. Education initiatives, I can see you. + +Robert Del Rey: Provider building programs discussion about Amy Finest. Dlx for marketing. And Lots of stuff. I mean, this cold mostly cover, the silly initiative, just so, you can see here in the title, we have developer onboarding and provider strategies Steering Community. Call Number 12. A cash network. + +Robert Del Rey: There is a call to action. In all videos descriptions, you will find a call to action. It's going to be different depending on the video, just to give some priority to that. and All the links leading to a cash network. Are here and more about For those of you that don't know. YouTube automatically adds videos related to In the lower part of the description. and you just have to add more about the cash and they add those videos below or you can manually just add Any link to any video that you want to see there at the moment, I'm just leaving it automatically. Same as the timestamps. So let's open up the video, right. + +Robert Del Rey: So, you can see later, what is it about? You're gonna notice the intro, + +Robert Del Rey: So there have We have a quick Intro animation, things b, s and then it's for the ideas. at the end, I believe it came out really good and it jumps right into Tyler or the Speaker of the call, someone calls, it's Tyler, some calls, we have Adam, some calls, we have Anil, it doesn't matter. What I do is I try to edit the videos to make sure they start. When they call it starts, sometimes, the recording starts but they mentioned things. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: That maybe are not related to the steering community call or just an extra topic or maybe it's just that air waiting for more people joining. I edit those out of the video. So it jumps right into Tyler giving the introduction. Same happens At the end I noticed that + +Robert Del Rey: I noticed that in the end, some people stay in the call. For example, this call was 44 minutes but the original file. It's one hour. When it reached to an hour, if there is no one talking they call ends automatically. So, usually I get 10 to 15 minutes of that air, because someone remain in the call silent. So, I removed that From the end and add the cash intro in the end. So here's how it looks. + +Robert Del Rey: And you see it ends animation again and that's it. So yeah, Really nice. Just to make sure there is no bit. Hey, look, who's talking there. So that was just to make sure there was not that air in the video. You can find me here. Many people are spoken in this call. It's a good One thing I wanted you to see and this is the last thing we added to those videos, is that every five minutes, you're gonna see this in the lower side of the screen. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, can you see it here? You see here? + +Robert Del Rey: Use the notifications. I guess it's a good reminder for people. It's a good call to action and also that helps them starting paying attention to the video again, sometimes you get distracted and then something happens. And then you pay attention to the video. I guess this can cause this effect. the other message, it's gonna be about Twitter. this, It opens up. It remains in the screen for three to four seconds and then it goes down. + +Robert Del Rey: We maybe try to play around in different sites of the screen. I'm thoroughly open for suggestions. But we can bring them in other videos. Sadly with YouTube. + +Robert Del Rey: If we want to upload something, the video has to be ready. We cannot edit the video after is upload it. So we got to make sure everything is ready before hitting the upload. But right. + +Robert Del Rey: So that's all I have for the Steering Committee videos update. I will catch a quick breath. In the meantime, you can bring your questions or comments if any + +Robert Del Rey: If not that's totally fine guys. Remember, you can take your questions Into a cash discord. We have a YouTube channel there dedicated for that so feel free to drop your questions and comments. Yeah, that's all I have for the student community videos, suddenly Tyler's done on this call. I will need to send him a message. + +Robert Del Rey: When, do they want to go live at the moment? They are unlisted, meaning that nobody can see them. Unless I shared this link with you. But nobody can see them. So, I need to follow up with Tyler to see Can we make these public? Hopefully, when they are public, we can get lots of support from their cash community. Remember guys, to subscribe to their cash YouTube channel. If you haven't and comments in all our videos because it helps getting in front of more people. So yeah, let me quickly go to the chat. I saw a message, We work on the videos. I like the periodic call to actions. Thanks, B! S, You demand, thank you for the designs ideas. Also, hopefully we can make more videos in the future. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: But yeah, I thought those periodic reminders would be a good idea. Because sometimes it happens to me that I start watching a video from the feed. In maybe that channel appears so often on the feed. That I think that I'm subscribed to that channel. But actually, I'm not. And when they say the code to action, remember to and subscribe, usually that gives me a break to think about it. And most of the time, I noticed that I'm not subscribed and I subscribe. So, hopefully, this can cause the same effect in the people watching. + +Robert Del Rey: And yeah and also when we make these videos come from the recording but we have in plan doing other kinds of videos. So I guess it's gonna be important to have those call to actions in all kinds of videos in a cash YouTube. But yeah, again, 19 the steering committee videos. This is everything since Akash went open source. So yeah, that's what I have. So, let's see when we upload a steering community called video. number 20, and when we make public the rest, + +Robert Del Rey: Let me write that down, so yeah. Anything else you guys want to talk about the sitting committee videos? Otherwise, I move on to the next topic of the agenda. + +Robert Del Rey: All right, the infinite circle. All right, so if nothing I'll move on then. + +Robert Del Rey: Mmm. + +Robert Del Rey: All the next topic in here, again, it's about a cash console videos and Prater videos. I would like to get more details about him, let me stop sharing the scroll. + +Robert Del Rey: So I crash console and paid for as I guess those are the biggest tools available in a cash community. Initially, they started as individual projects and then Overclock team in the community decided to acquire them both, which is awesome. It shows you actually how far you can get in a cash if you actually make it happen, right? So yeah, I got console, It's a tool. For deployments. Yeah, that was the word and Prater. Mostly helps setting up providers. It's a fun interface to create providers. So since they are the two biggest tools we have available besides a cash shot, which is a fairly new. + +Robert Del Rey: I thought it was important to have videos. In fact, it was Tyler who mentioned that we should have and a cash console video. So I wanted to discuss some of the details That. maybe we can agree on and have them in the video. So the next two weeks, I'm planning on working on that video so I can have it ready for the next call. So, I believe it's important to have those details sorted out before I started working in a video. So yeah, starting from the beginning. + +Robert Del Rey: There has to be an Intro to console, Letting people know what is it about and what people can do with it. + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know and please forgive me, but I don't know if there are gonna be changes or updates happening into console. It is very important to confirm that. Because imagine if we do a video about console and in the next week, they update console Now, we will need to do a new video, so I guess it's very important to confirm. Also, if there are updates happening soon, + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: I guess I wanted to speak to with Tyler about this, right? So, enter the console and confirm upcoming changes. + +Robert Del Rey: Or maybe I'm confused. I don't know if the one But what was about to change was console or crater. I know they're updating them constantly. But yeah, we need to confirm that. a very basic video, how I see it is that we can have Covering the basic stuff like an intro to Console console always is gonna help you with deployments on a cash network, we can go over the templates in console. If you have a notice on the left side, you got different paths. One of those tabs is templates and you can take any of those templates and + +Robert Del Rey: And copy them and deploy, whatever the template has on a cache using Console. You can even have one, click Deployments and stuff, so I guess that's important to have in that video as well. + +Robert Del Rey: And I don't know what must be in the video. Let's see what B s has to say about it. Breaking into several smaller videos. Will be better. So that they can more easily be updated as needed. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. Because for example, let's say, If we upload, at three series video, one is an intro one. It's how to deploy and the third one. It's about whatever, having a cash on Twitter, It's just a crazy example, If they update the process of Coping a template and doing a deployment. it's going to be easier for us just to + +Robert Del Rey: Do that specific video again and maybe a real blog. The video again instead of redoing the whole video just to showcase one step Who change that change, believe. I got it right. + +Robert Del Rey: And the good thing about dividing the videos into series is that we could use those videos and upload them in a cache edu. So people can have a serious of videos to watch until they claim and nfd. That's another idea maybe for another discussion but yeah, I do like this idea of breaking it into a smaller pieces of content. Awesome. Thank you so much. + +Robert Del Rey: Let's see what one thing that always will not always usually when I'm doing a video about console and I need to do a deployment, sometimes I have some Akt in my wallet. Wait, let me say that again. In the wallet that I use to create videos, not my personal wallet, right? I have some AKP there, so I just usually use that dust and I'm able to do whatever I want to do in the tutorial. But I noticed some people, for example, in a cash silly, we had a quest of doing a video about a cash. And some people did a video about console + +Robert Del Rey: And something will happen is that they access the platform, they access the templates, they were almost ready to do the deployment. But they stopped in the pain, for the deployment part in the 0.58 to pay for the deployment. So having said that the question that I have is, let me know, guys, do you think it's better to have a video about how to fund your wallet included, in the Cash console video, or we just need to assume or we would just need to let them know to have funds in their wallets before doing the deployment. + +Robert Del Rey: On my own personal experience. I mean, I guess here we are all very savvy with technology. We know our way to get around and usually when people need to get funds for something, they find a way to do that. I just don't know. the amount of people that would really need us to explain them how to get a 18. So yeah, I leave this up to your consideration. + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: A video on how to fund in your Akt while I guess it will be useful. I don't know how useful it will be to have it inside the same Akash console video. But I do believe having a separate video on how to fund your wallet, how to buy Akt. It's always good. So I published last year. About how to stake, Akt, that video has over 5,000 views and it's incredible, but I believe the timing was right and also the value in it. I guess having a video about how to buy Akt separately will be a great year. Yep. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. One using Coinbase would be good since we are in Coinbase. We are in crack, and also talking about the centralized exchanges, the sex, right? But let me write that down. B s, thank you so much. + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe this video about forming your Akt wallet, could be a video or could be something to add in the backlog. and that is something that I would say in the last call, we + +Robert Del Rey: Created a backlog. So, all the ideas that we have about YouTube, we can add them in these backlog. So, as we progress and as we work and as we get things done We can quickly move on to the next thing we want to do and instead of thinking about what we want to do. We can just go to the backlog and Which item Would bring more value to a cache next + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, I will definitely add that. To the backyard. + +Robert Del Rey: Right. + +Robert Del Rey: But if we have a great idea here, thank you for the insights B's. I guess the last question I have is How much do you think we should pay for? Let's say. + +Robert Del Rey: For a 10 to 15 minutes, explain your video about a cash console. + +Robert Del Rey: there is another thing we need to check out, I will try to get some quotes + +Robert Del Rey: But I can share them in the next call, right? Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: yeah, even though at the moment, this is something that we're doing totally voluntarily with no pay. The plan is in the future to have a team. Working in a cash YouTube. This is something that Tyler has a spoken about and That's the reason why I'm asking, how much will that cost? So we can have a good idea in case they ask us. + +Robert Del Rey: But yet. I would get those quotes. I actually use this space a lot fiber in fiber, you can find whatever. thing related to freelancing anything. You want to do in a contract, you can get Any freelancing fiber? This is A free plug. I'm not getting paid for fiber. First thing in this, Argue meaning, in terms of the silic campaign or is this a separate payment? + +Robert Del Rey: Okay. I understand where you coming from. If the payment for this video is coming from the sealy price full, if that was the question. we will need to get new budget for you to separately. Because, we have YouTube, we have Silly has silly money. But we need money for you to so yeah, long answer short. Yeah, it's gonna be a separate payment coming from a different source. Not the silly price. Okay. Awesome. That I got it. okay. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Very productive so far. Thank you guys. yeah, the dust was all the questions that I have in details about a cash console Prater. I know Creator is changing soon for, sure, because I spoke with you are from Peter, and yeah, he told me that they're playing on my grading very soon. Are going to migrate into console or something like that. So, I guess as soon as that happens, we will get into action and do these videos. + +Robert Del Rey: The fourth point I had was about explaining the deployments, paying for the certificate pain, for the deposit, how you pick the best beats or the best providers and paying the lease, right? I believe those are topics. We can have In the Cash console video for sure. + +Robert Del Rey: Great Great Question, B. S, don't take my word for it, but I heard Tyler saying in a few occasions that things like in the future, they would love to Give that revenue. I don't know if it was to the community pool or divided between the community pool and they contributor. But they have plans to use that revenue for the cash community. I believe he said the same for the merger store, a cash has a store where you can buy nurse from teachers and mocks. + +Robert Del Rey: so the plan is to have the community working in YouTube, have the community working in the shop and hopefully I stream of income is created and that income can go to the community pool and maybe can Self-sustain I don't know, something like that. He said maybe we can write this down and ask him in the next YouTube call or just send him in the chat. But yeah, I believe we are remembering the same like he suggested something that they're about the Revenue and YouTube. Let's see. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. I think I remember Tyler suggesting that revenue from YouTube, go to Community Pool but it might be worth thinking about diverting some to the creators. Yeah, I totally agree with that And let me tell you the Cash YouTube channel. We have over 3,000 subscribers. + +Robert Del Rey: Which is the minimum we need to Apply to the in the YouTube Partners Program, Basically, you can get more monetization for your videos. You can add ads to your videos. And also if you have a shop the Ash Shop, we can link it to the cash videos on YouTube and people can click on those videos and go directly to the shop and they can buy directly in YouTube, recycling. I don't know if you seen on Instagram in Instagram, you can see some shop posts, you see the picture and you can see the price. And when you click it, you can do the checkout right away on Instagram. It's the same for you in the YouTube partners program. + +Robert Del Rey: But we need to get there, so For the subscribers part. we are eligible. Let me show you instead. I believe sometimes I just talk to much instead of showing you, Let's see. Let me show you a picture is worth a thousand words, And This is for you guys. Again, thank you for joining those checking the recording later can also see this but basically only you can see this because Most of the people don't join to this type of things so you can see these are the analytics of a cache. We got 3,692 subscribers which is nice. And worries the partners program, one second. That's what you + + +### 00:30:00 + +Robert Del Rey: you go to earn, and you can see here the eligibility We have It's 500 subscribers We need to upload at least three videos in the last 90 days. We have uploaded a video since a cash accelerate sumit. So that's why it shows zero. So when we upload videos from the sitting comedy call, we are going to have enough videos to get this check. The watch hours, this is in the last year, we have to have 3,000 watch hours. so, This is an easy one to get. Again, we haven't uploaded a video in 90 days at least and still we have over a thousand watch hours. + +Robert Del Rey: So this one is another one that's easy to get the one that is going to be tricky. It's the one for the shorts. We need at least three million shorts views. to get to this point when we get all these four, we will be able to get ads to get ads revenue and To link the stores, with the cash YouTube. So Yeah, if you never seen this before, this is how the earn page looks like on YouTube. So yeah, yeah, really cool. So can you imagine that? I guess if we can make this happen in monetize this channel, + +Robert Del Rey: I guess we're gonna be one of the few projects that can say that. I honestly don't recall any project that gives revenue back to the community these kind of revenue things for the community. Usually how you get revenue in other protocols is by lending your crypto or by a staking, right or locking your funds. list, this is another way that we can try to get revenue from my Let's see, it's very exciting if you think about it. So basically our mission is make this channel blow and when this channel blows we get paid or something like that, All right. I'll stop sharing now. Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. + +Robert Del Rey: that's not all I have before wrapping up. I have something to show you. Yeah, again I will share my screen again. I hope you don't mind. + +Robert Del Rey: Let me know if I'm sharing. Okay, this is how the top right? Maybe I love the office. It's a good show. + +Robert Del Rey: I was gonna go to Dekash YouTube So this is the Cash YouTube channel. We remove alanis video that we had here. + +Robert Del Rey: and I don't know the video. more current to a cash. Let me upload that one. I believe that one wasn't supposed to be there. + +Robert Del Rey: A home The trial and Sister video, let me change the video. + +Robert Del Rey: Let's do the power of permissionless. It's actually one of the most popular videos at the moment. Alright, so let's go back to Channel. + +Robert Del Rey: That was quick. Okay. yeah, we need to update these B. S. Remember, we spoke about uploading this banner. I need to follow up with Dennis on that. + +Robert Del Rey: Or maybe if we have his blessing, we can just go ahead and do it selves. I don't mind at all, but yeah, the banner up here. So yeah, what I wanted to show you is that Greg had a talk recently in Talking 2049. They published this video yesterday in a cache twitter, they retweeted this So, nobody told me this. So I just went ahead and searched for that video on YouTube and added to the Feature Videos playlist, to give you a little context. The Feature Videos playlist is a video. Sorry, it's a playlist that we have + + +### 00:35:00 + +Robert Del Rey: featuring a cash videos in other YouTube channels. As you can see this video have 13,000 views. This is cryptocoin. Shows 16, 6000 views alien traits, you might hear about aliot rates before us 30,000 views. So yeah, those videos about a cash. That appear in other channels and get good traction over a thousand views. We are adding them here. Let's see how this one performs. But yesterday, it had 50 views and today, it has over 200. So, yeah, that was one quick update one quick thing. I wanted to share with you about Akash YouTube, This is talking 2049, I'll be on the lookout to add more feature videos in the future. + +Robert Del Rey: I already mentioned about the YouTube backlog. If you have ideas of things to do about Akash YouTube, feel free to add them in the backlog. The link is In the message on I cash YouTube discord channel. Dude, this name are getting wild. So, yeah, in the cash discord, YouTube channel, you be able to find the link to the backlog. I don't have it handed at the moment, so I'm sorry. But yeah, that's all I have for today's call. Before rubbing up guys. Are there any questions Regrets feedbacks. You have to go to share about a cash due to initiative. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you B S. You're my man b s Europe, just shared the backlog. Link in the chat. So shiny. If you want to have a look to the back, Look, you can just quick access to it. I believe we haven't had anything yet, but I will definitely add the video on how to form your Akt wallet and the other ideas that we shot about in this call. So, with that being said, my friends, I wish you a great rest of Tuesday. It's a pleasure for me. Speaking with you chatting, with you and working on behalf of cash network. Let's keep that heat going up. Right. Let's keep on sharing ideas and let's make this a good channel. Let's make this channel blow so we can get that revenue, all right. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank guys again Thank you. Your time to join. I see you in the meta first. All right. Stay safe. Thanks man. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:43:36 👋 diff --git a/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/009-2024-11-13.md b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/009-2024-11-13.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6cf7b695 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-Akash-youtube/meetings/009-2024-11-13.md @@ -0,0 +1,274 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Youtube Working Group (WG) - Meeting #9 + +## Agenda +- Phase 1 updates on Akash YouTube channel revamp. +- Discussion of Phase 2: Educational content and workshops. +- Proposal for separating Akash Network and community YouTube channels. +- Review of current and future content goals. +- Community involvement and collaboration strategies. +- Cadence for future working group meetings. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2024 +- Time: 08:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://r7gzff726zfyboqwf6ymhi7mgpklwwiispyszrs5ef3px3lfzusq.arweave.net/j82Sl_r2S4C6Fi-ww6PsM9S7WQiT8SzGXSF2--1lzSU) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + +## Participants +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- B S +- M R + +## Meeting Notes + +### **Phase 1 Updates** +- Robert reported significant progress in cleaning up the Akash YouTube channel, including: + - Organizing videos into playlists by theme. + - Updating the introduction video with a talk from the Akash Accelerate Summit. + - Redesigning thumbnails to align with Akash’s branding. +- The main outstanding task is updating the channel banner, which remains a priority for the next steps. + +### **Phase 2 Proposal** +- Robert presented a proposal for Phase 2, aiming to make Akash YouTube a hub for educational content. Key deliverables include: + - Producing four technical educational videos per month. + - Hosting two technical workshops per month on Akash tools or relevant topics. + - Leveraging high-quality production to address feedback regarding the readability and accessibility of existing content. +- The goal is to use the next 4–6 months to: + - Increase views to 50,000. + - Grow watch hours to 5,000. + - Gain 2,000 new subscribers. + +### **Separation of YouTube Channels** +- Robert suggested splitting the Akash YouTube content into: + - An **official Akash Network channel** for polished technical videos. + - A **community channel** for working group calls, SIG recordings, and community-created content. +- The rationale is to maintain a clear and professional image on the official channel while allowing creativity and diversity on the community channel. +- Tyler highlighted the importance of keeping the Akash Network channel as a community resource and integrating the proposed community channel closely with existing efforts. + +### **Community Collaboration** +- Robert introduced a potential team for Phase 2: + - Himself, Piyush ("Black Panther"), and Akash Alpha, with roles spanning video editing, animation, and technical content. +- Tyler supported leveraging community talents and suggested outreach to identify additional contributors for content creation, editing, and documentation. + +### **Goals and Future Plans** +- The team’s target metrics include making the channel eligible for the YouTube Partner Program to enable monetization and integration with the Akash merchandise shop. +- Discussions will continue in SIG Design to finalize deliverables and align with core team strategies. + +### **Cadence for Meetings** +- Robert proposed continuing the current three-week meeting cadence, increasing frequency if needed during later phases of Phase 2. + +## Action Items +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Finalize the banner design for the YouTube channel. + - Share the Phase 2 proposal document for feedback on GitHub and Discord. + - Continue assembling the team for educational content production. + - Draft initial scripts and topics for the first technical videos. + +- **Tyler Wright**: + - Facilitate alignment between the proposed community channel and Akash Network’s strategic goals. + - Identify and connect additional community contributors with Robert. + +- **B S**: + - Collaborate with Robert to finalize the banner and thumbnails. + - Participate in discussions during the SIG Design meeting for further alignment. + +- **M R**: + - Review the Phase 2 proposal and provide insights or suggestions. + +- **General**: + - Promote the Akash YouTube channel across personal and professional networks to meet growth targets. + - Encourage community members to join working group discussions and contribute to the channel’s development. + +# **Transcript** + +Tyler Wright: All right, welcome everybody to the working group for the Akash YouTube channel. It is November 13th. 24. This is a working group that came out of the SIG design special interest group. The goal of this working group is really to overhaul and continue to monitor and maintain the Akash YouTube channel. As we have discussed a number of times, a Kos YouTube channel could be a great resource for exploration around the just introduction to the Akash network. And then the goal is to find people in the community that can help contribute to creating videos that can be hosted on the Akash YouTube. find people that can help edit videos from various talks etc. + +Tyler Wright: so that again we can continue to develop and evolve the Akash YouTube as just another resource for people to technically understand Akos at the highest level and all in between. Robert has been leading a number of efforts through some work that he has talked about insect design. there was a community support funds that he was able to leverage to do phase one. I want to get phase one around the steering committees live here today. my hope is that some members of the sig design will be able to join here today. Otherwise, I want to do it during sig design and get again some of the work that Robert has done around the steering committee videos live. + +Tyler Wright: I also want to talk about the banner on the homepage and start to get some action items around some additional content. I know we should clean up the Akash YouTube channel homepage so that it has the most up-to-date information. I know there's a number of talks that have happened over the last couple weeks. Dennis has created a bunch of videos for the Akash Accelerate that I don't believe live yet. so there's a number of items that we can do to improve the Akash YouTube channel immediately based upon work that's already been done. And then I would love to talk about work that we can start to think about for the future in terms of next steps and phases. I just want to see if there's anything that else that anybody wants to discuss here today. + +Tyler Wright: Robert, I know that you typically have an agenda for some of these meetings and so I don't want to take away from your agenda,… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: but those are some of the things that I was hoping to talk about and get accomplished today. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you,… + +Robert Del Rey: Tyler. yes, I guess phase one was really nice in helping us organizing and come up with a plan for the YouTube page. we did some cleanup with some of the older videos. we also came up with a playlist. We created a new playlist and starting arranging videos based on the name of the playlist. we also changed the introduction video that people see when they join the Aash YouTube channel. We updated it for one of the talks that Greg had in the Aash accelerate summit. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, basically what I'm looking forward the most is what you were saying about the graphics. we are still missing the banner on the YouTube channel, but that's mainly it. I believe for the thumbnails, we basically nailed the design. I still haven't got word on Dennis on that, but the thumbnail design looks very similar to what we had, so it doesn't disrupt the current aesthetics of the channel. so yeah, I guess phase one was really solid I guess we can take that to the SIG design call, but what I mainly want to talk about was about phase two of the Aash YouTube channel. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. … + +Robert Del Rey: where do I start? All right. So, yeah. Tyler, we are totally in line when you say that a cash YouTube channel should be like a channel where people can find resources about a cashache. it should be a place where people can find technical information about the things they can do on a cache network and should be like an extent of us on discord we have a lot of developer support on Twitter there are a lot of integration news partnerships news and I believe we're lacking a little bit in the educational aspects. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Robert Del Rey: We have tried to do educational campaigns in the past, but I guess YouTube can be a great place to put our efforts in spreading education about a cashache through professional educational videos. So yeah, I have a proposal for you guys and this is about the Aash technical YouTube channel. basically our plan is to expand a cache YouTube and we want to create consistent high quality educational content about the tools you have in a cache and about the capabilities of a cache network. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, if you go to the current estate of the Akash YouTube channel, you barely can find some up to-date videos about And one thing I noticed is that some of the videos don't have of the best quality. actually we got some comments saying that we should do some videos again because people can't read the fonts in the videos. so yeah, I guess there is a significant need for professional n technical videos showcasing a cash network. So, what I'm want to propose to you is that we can assemble a team of people. I've been thinking about some people in the community that can help us making this a reality. + +Robert Del Rey: initially I want to run phase 2 between four to 6 months and what we want to deliver to Akash it's basically four technical educational videos per month meaning that each week Aash is going to have a new technical video uploaded in the channel and besides that we also want to provide two technical workshops per month covering the key developments of Aash or any desired topic that we discussed in the Akash YouTube working group. this is another idea. I mean I just gave you the overview of what we want to do with the Aash technical YouTube channel and this is just a crazy idea. I'm going to drop it now and you can let me know what you think. + +Robert Del Rey: But we believe that it would be better if the official Aash channel stays as a technical library for videos and we create another Aash community channel where we can upload the working group calls, the special interest group calls and also community members content that they do. And the reasoning behind that is that we can keep the official Lakash YouTube channel clean with only technical videos and if people want to go deeper and find other aspects of the Akash community, they can go to this Akash community YouTube channel. It's an idea that we have, but if you believe that it's better to have all types of content in one single channel, I'm also down for that. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: So I will stop real quickly and after this overview maybe you can let me know your initial thoughts about this proposal. + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: I like the idea. + +Tyler Wright: Is there a brand that you are thinking about developing or is this something that you'll be starting from scratch + +Robert Del Rey: Actually since Cosmoverse, I've been working on this draft and discussing about the ideas, about the content that we will cover, about the cost like the proposal is mostly ready to share to the world. the people that I'm working with right now, it's me. + +Robert Del Rey: We also have Push also known as Ball Panther and another person is Akash Alpha. you might have seen him on Twitter. he's very avid with editing and animations and I believe he will do a great job as an editor and to record this technical stuff. I believe Push and the team can help us out nailing that. yeah. Yeah. also, I don't know the possibility of this, but I would like to have Sack, you Tyler, and also Dennis helping us out as maybe our project sponsors so you can guide us and make sure that we remain aligned with the Aashore team. I mean, we are experienced insiders. I've been an insider for two years. B Panther, I believe it's older than me in the community. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Akash Alpha is new but his commitment speaks for itself but still we would like to remain close to the core team as possible to have guidance and alignment and tips and just make sure that this campaign can be the more satisfactory as possible for the Aash network. + +Tyler Wright: + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know what you mean about working with a brand honestly you refer to an agency or something like that. + +Tyler Wright: No, no. + +Tyler Wright: As you were talking about this kind of separate YouTube channel, I was thinking about somebody like Akash Alpha that already has their own brand being built and is doing their own content separate of obviously the official Akos Network social media and really the folks that you described, yourself, Bold Panther, Akash Alpha I think would be a great group of people to collaborate on these kinds of ideas. + +Tyler Wright: So, I was wondering were you going to call the channel, Akash blah blah blah, but it sounds like you all have the three people in question can come up with a brand that can grow its own wings and… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: be closely aligned with the core team but again have its own identity. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks, man. + +Robert Del Rey: In that case, we haven't talked much about the branding. We just call it the Aash community YouTube channel. for the moment, it's a placeholder name, I guess. But we can put some thought into branding if necessary. + +Tyler Wright: My only concern with that is the Akash network YouTube channel is supposed to be an Akash community channel. That's why we're having these working group sessions so that anybody from the community can talk about ideas, share ideas for that specific channel. It sounds like it'll be creative directed and… + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: have ownership and direction from Bull Panther, Robert Del Rey, and Akash Akos Alpha. + +Robert Del Rey: I got my unit. + +Tyler Wright: So that might have a different voice and message and kind of direction than the official Akash networks which should be communityowned which is why we're meeting about it here. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes. Yes. That's why the idea to have a separate channel came from because P and I were talking about that making the Aash network channel a technical library where people can only find these kind of technical videos. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: And the good thing I have about having a separate community channel is that it will give us some space to be creative, improvise and upload all kinds of videos about a cashache in another channel. So that is the main reasoning behind it. + +Tyler Wright: Sounds good to me. + +Robert Del Rey: Awesome, I'm happy you like it. I have the draft document. We are still trying to nail down the costs and some other information but what we want to do the objective the timeline even the contents that we want to cover first we already have them. + +Robert Del Rey: so yeah so yeah some goals that we have is that for example at the time that I was finishing up the document yesterday a cashache got almost 20,000 views in the last year with 600 new subscribers in the last year and 1,200 watch hours in the last year. So, we're planning to use these numbers to measure our success. But some initial goals that we have is raise the views to 50,000 in the next four to six months that we're going to run this campaign. We want to increase the views to 50,000 views, the watch hours to 5,000 watch hours, and try to get at least 2,000 subscribers in the next four to six months. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Robert Del Rey: it's a big goal but we feel confident in ourselves in the team that we are assembling we call it A team and also having these numbers will make Akash eligible to become a YouTube partner and by becoming a YouTube partner Aash can monetize from ads on YouTube so we can get some income from YouTube and also we can link external shops like the Aash shop and sell a cash merch directly on YouTube. So that's why also we came up with these numbers. again it's a big goal but we feel confident that we can make it happen. So I can share the link with you so you can have a look at the document and yeah you can let us know what you think man. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: we believe this can be very very beneficial not only for a cash but for the people discovering this YouTube channel there are some projects that I can share as example also that you go to their channels and maybe they don't have many videos but you can learn all that there is to learn about those projects in the 15 to 20 videos that they have available and those videos again cover critical aspects of the project how the project works what things can you do as a developer in a project and… + +Tyler Wright: Love it. + +Robert Del Rey: and things like that. So yeah. Yeah. thank you for coming to my tech And the timeline I know that for the holidays it's the almost December and people like to take breaks and rest during the holidays. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: So we want to bring this up to discussion on GitHub for Dember. and hopefully share the proposal on chain we can start January 2025 full esteem with a plan with a budget and with the people ready to make this happen. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Love it. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks I appreciate your support Tyler and everybody's support on this. again, this is not set in a stone yet. So if you guys listening now or listening to the recording, you have an extra idea,… + +Robert Del Rey: feedbacks or maybe you have experience working on YouTube, it would be awesome if you can reach out and get involved. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. On that note,… + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: I know Robert, you went to Cosmoverse. it was always great to see if there's anybody else out in the community that is looking to get involved in newer pro in projects. Obviously, Akasha has been around here for a while, so it's not newer, but again, we're certainly at the point where there are funds available to those that want to make contributions, especially in the areas of video content creation, editing, technical documentation, writing, etc. So, please reach out to myself, Robert, anybody that you feel comfortable with on Discord. join these meetings, look to get involved. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, Robert, I might say save some of the agenda items around getting the steering committee page live and some of the other things for SIG design because some of the folks that were going to be here have conflicts now just trying to get some design deliverables over the finish line. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: Are you able to join SIG design in 38 minutes? Okay. + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, I'll be there. + +Robert Del Rey: I'll be there. I told P and Akash Alpha to join this call, but maybe they had conflicts as So I will join to the design, but I will tell them if they can also join to the design call. So maybe we can keep chatting about this and graphics and stuff in the design. Awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, that would be great. as of right now, I believe that this meeting is weekly. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: No, it's a one-off meeting. + +Robert Del Rey: At the moment I believe every three weeks works good based on the stage that we are in this project. + +Tyler Wright: It's a one-off meeting. Do we want to It's every 3 weeks on Wednesday. Is that a good cadence for this meeting? as we continue to move forward and we can just again meet every three weeks. or do we want to meet more regularly? + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: Maybe after we start the discussions about our future plans maybe we can increase the candence cabins to a weekly setting… + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. + +Robert Del Rey: but at the moment I believe three weeks is good and any topic that maybe we don't chat about we can also discuss it in the design call. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, they're very handtoand I believe. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah, Thank you for taking care of that tie and yeah. Yeah, that's all for me at the moment. + +Tyler Wright: Me as well. again some folks if people have time please join SIG design think we'll talk a little bit more about just again implementation and not Dennis Robert if you can be screen share ready I would love to get some of those things from unlisted to listed and live during SIG design because we have a number of stakeholders that will be there I would also be interested BS if you can make it yourself. I know that previously you and I have been working together on some ideas around like a digest or a blog that does a roundup of the SIGs and working groups. I would love to revisit that especially with Dennis and some other members of the community that can help edit it. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: I would love for this to be an item that, BSU or somebody else or a couple people from the community can own outright and then, make a PR and then if there edits that need to be made, I can look at that PR and just make those edits and help merge it. but again, I would love to get that off the ground because I think it's important asset and something the community has been asking for. and something that a team or a couple individual contributors can certainly add value to. So we can talk about that a little bit more in SIG design as well. Is there anything else as it pertains to Akos YouTube that anybody wants to discuss right now that we haven't talked about already? Cool. All right. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Tyler Wright: We'll meet here every go ahead, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: … + +Robert Del Rey: I can do a shameless plug if I went to Cosmover 2024 this year. Thank you so much, Akash, for making it a reality. And as every year, I came up with an unoffial the after movie, it's live. So I will share the link and if you have time you can see it and yeah that's that because if the video is on YouTube that's why I'm sharing it here on the YouTube working group call. All right forgive me. + +Robert Del Rey: So yeah that's all for me. thank you for joining guys and see you in the next call. So you're in the design call. + +Tyler Wright: Excellent. Thank you all. + +Tyler Wright: Talk to you soon. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:26 👋 diff --git a/wg-akash-website/README.md b/wg-akash-website/README.md index 47020ed0..1a662217 100644 --- a/wg-akash-website/README.md +++ b/wg-akash-website/README.md @@ -38,8 +38,11 @@ This working group is responsible for managing and improving the Akash Network W | #31 | Thursday, June 13, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/031-2024-06-13.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/031-2024-06-13.md#Transcript)| [Link](https://urav5nq4ipj2qxxrryzspu67zqhcsvxc7iuv6mk7wkniixznkkmq.arweave.net/pEFethxD06he8Y4zJ9PfzA4pVuL6KV8xX7KahF8tUpk) | #32 | Thursday, July 25, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/032-2024-07-25.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/032-2024-07-25.md#:~:text=Recording-,Transcript,-Participants)| [Link](https://j3ixq4a45f2dpivp7gmzyecplzctrglme5j4ea2dfvbvad2dsfma.arweave.net/TtF4cBzpdDeir_mZnBBPXkU4mWwnU8IDQy1DUA9DkVg) | #33 | Thursday, August 8, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/033-2024-08-08.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/033-2024-08-08.md#Transcript)| [Link](https://liyj2hy26ggvtqigr7b753rkz3eo7aigtfbxwzn7cw5yabkrdtvq.arweave.net/WjCdHxrxjVnBBo_D_u4qzsjvgQaZQ3tlvxW7gAVRHOs) -## Leads +| #34 | Thursday, August 22, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| Coming Soon| Coming Soon| Coming Soon +| #35 | Thursday, September 5, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| Coming Soon| Coming Soon| Coming Soon +| #36 | Thursday, September 19, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md#Transcript)| [Link](https://xizhkq2uh33ndaz2rdywz6karsqwbjimryjtoztgkypczywuaz5q.arweave.net/ujJ1Q1Q-9tGDOojxbPlAjKFgpQyOEzdmZlYeLOLUBns) +## Leads - Denis Lelic - Tyler Wright - Zach Horn diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..65e77191 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/034-2024-08-22.md @@ -0,0 +1,430 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #34 + +## Agenda +- Updates on Akash ecosystem page and front homepage section +- Menu restructuring and UI/UX improvements +- Pricing page improvements, including GPU pricing calculator +- Case study page development +- Provider-specific page and network capacity integration +- Development page content restructuring and community group integration +- Planning for upcoming event season updates +- Review of action items and timelines + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Friday, August 22, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://olyxusqhsnl4q7wepmpawt6ly3peluwjdivqxpy2fzjcbipnznra.arweave.net/cvF6SgeTV8h-xHseC0_Lxt5F0skaKwu_Gi5SIKHty2I) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Denis Lelic +- B S +- Hiroyuki +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Ecosystem Page and Front Homepage Section** + - Denis reviewed the recent updates made to the ecosystem page, mentioning that the order of listed projects needs to be fixed for better organization. + - Suggested updating the front section of the homepage to feature new and relevant projects regularly. + - Denis will DM Zach to provide feedback on these updates. + +- **Menu Restructuring and UI/UX Enhancements** + - Piyush demonstrated the newly designed dropdown menu, which introduces a secondary navigation bar to improve user experience, especially on mobile. + - Denis highlighted that the vertical navigation will be removed in favor of a streamlined horizontal layout. + - Tyler requested the menu to have additional hover states and UI polishing to enhance accessibility. + - Denis suggested that the new menu design could solve multiple issues, including easier access to events and community resources. + +- **Pricing Page Enhancements** + - Denis discussed the ongoing work on the GPU pricing calculator and provider earnings calculator. + - The aim is to create a unified experience with an updated menu structure that would display the average price, minimum and maximum values, and allow users to compare Akash Network pricing with AWS, GCP, and Microsoft. + - The team will await Hiro’s updates on the current draft for the pricing page. + +- **Case Study Page Development** + - The team proposed adding a dedicated case study page to the Akash website. + - Content for case studies, such as blogs and project success stories, will be sourced from existing material and integrated under the ecosystem page. + - Tyler stressed the importance of completing this update before the upcoming event season. + +- **Provider Page and Network Capacity Integration** + - Denis presented a plan to create a dedicated page for providers, showing global provider capacity, uptime, GPU resources, and other specifics. + - Tyler and Denis agreed to consolidate this content from the ecosystem section into a dedicated provider section. + - Piyush will work on implementing this feature with a menu integration. + +- **Development Page Content Restructuring** + - Denis proposed content restructuring for the development page, including key links to GitHub, deployment tools, and templates. + - Tyler suggested adding a permanent link to the community calendar on this page for better accessibility. + - A section will also be added to connect users with blogs on community group activities, enhancing community engagement. + +- **Event Season Planning and Action Items** + - Tyler emphasized the need to complete all website updates, including the menu redesign, by September to streamline user experience for new visitors during the busy event season. + - Denis committed to aligning all team members on priorities, with feedback from Zach and Greg expected on the new menu. + +- **Closing Remarks** +- Denis thanked everyone for their contributions and highlighted the importance of these updates for the Akash website’s user experience. +- Tyler emphasized completing tasks within the next ten days to ensure readiness for the event season and ease of access for new users. +- The team agreed to reconvene on Discord to monitor progress and coordinate on finalizing action items. + +## Action Items + +- **Denis** + - Reach out to Zach and Greg for feedback on the ecosystem page order and project prioritization. + - Share the final provider screens with Piyush and add details under the provider issue. + - Provide required links and final feedback for the new menu experience. + - Follow up on any pending items related to the community calendar and add links to community blogs. + +- **Piyush** + - Complete the menu restructuring, including adding hover states and removing redundant vertical navigation bars. + - Work on implementing the dedicated provider page with the latest screens provided by Denis. + - Start updates on the case study page, incorporating content from the ecosystem section. + - Conduct an audit of all page links, especially those related to the product and engineering roadmap. + +- **Tyler** + - Push for prompt feedback from team members to ensure the completion of menu updates and case studies before the event season. + - Ensure the addition of links to community group blogs and maintain oversight on the completion of these tasks. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website. I suggest we just get started maybe with the latest issues. I'm just gonna have a look if There are any new issues? + +Denis Lelic: The last one was this updating the Akash ecosystem page with the latest relevant projects. This one I believe is done. We just have to fix the order of the + +Denis Lelic: projects listed so + +Denis Lelic: so the ecosystem page and the projects that are currently deployed on So these are all new Pro projects. That have been added I believe yesterday. + +Denis Lelic: So I think just the order of the project needs to be fixed. And then this issue could be closed. one more thing I suggested and that is while we do that we could also update the front section of the homepage right this one here, so I believe we could. + +Denis Lelic: feature some of the latest projects that are a bit more relevant than these here nothing wrong with these but We could just switch it every once in a while and showcase some of the others so. I think ice just maybe Vep deaf news news research. Maybe that could work. But yeah, Zach's not around here. I'll pay him privately just have a look and provide some of the feedback on this issue. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, they're looking for you pretty much stays the same as we Have it now maybe an issue we can. Focus on in the future main this is the issue that was taken. By piyush so what this issue is going to do is gonna provide a better overview of the website better. It's gonna offer better. user experience or users could reach + +Denis Lelic: some of the pages faster so I have a demo here a preview a peer sent. So this is how it looks so basically we're introducing dropdowns. And there's going to be a secondary nav, for example, let's try one events. And we're going to get rid of this. vertical nav and just have the + +Denis Lelic: horizontal and it's going to work much better on the mobile because it's just a slider and you can just switch between these pages. + +Denis Lelic: Pretty much everywhere. The same logic is used. So Let's see. Yeah, only thing here. I know we just have to do some UI polishing. So as you see there, there's no hover States at the moment. + +Denis Lelic: And that's about it and getting rid of this. additional Navbar, that's not going to be in use anymore. okay. + +Denis Lelic: There is another issue. We're currently working on. Just trying to Improve pricing page so the GPU pricing and the pricing calculator and the overall visibility and experience. + +Denis Lelic: while one thing this new menu is going to solve is also the + +Denis Lelic: just this visibility and easy to reach some of the pages because I think let's say events previously were harder to find there's another issue for that as well. And I believe this menu is gonna solve that as well. So if you go to the community, you're gonna see right there's events there and it's just you can reach it right away. But if you have a look on The existing menu you have to go to the community and then you have to go to the events, but maybe it's easier for us that are familiar with the website to find things. But it just imagine if someone is dropping in for the first time and they want to learn about the event. So basically they have to go. Okay Network. There's a drop down here. It's not here. Maybe it's development. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Then you have to go through this community. here it is. But kind of tricky to find yeah. + +Tyler Wright: as the menu issue available for somebody to take on sorry if you said + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, piyush is already working on it. So there's also a demo here that's already functional. We just need to do some UI polishing and do the hover States and then it's good to go. But when you're working on a menu It's kind of touches a lot of issues. So there are several issues that are involved in this as well. So for example + +Denis Lelic: and development page we have The first page that we're created that was created by you Tyler, so I dropped. a draft here that includes the new menu, but it also talks about + +Denis Lelic: some of the content that needs to be restructured a little bit maybe. Some content here is a bit outdated especially here. in this + +Denis Lelic: current groups and project projects. So I wanted to make sure for example here that we have a call to action that is visible enough that it's gonna lead to product and Engineering roadmap on GitHub. So yeah, I accidentally. + +Denis Lelic: Let's start shooting. share Yeah, so maybe if you have a look at this issue leave some thoughts here in the comment section and hopefully we can move. This issue into the next stage. + +Tyler Wright: Is there a timeline for the menu? + +Denis Lelic: There is no timeline. I still have to check with Zach Greg as well just to see what are their thoughts. I've tagged Zack a couple of times here in this issue, but he didn't respond. Yeah, probably because we're traveling and everything he did in the last couple of weeks. yeah, but + +Denis Lelic: When we all align, I think this menu can go live quite fast. but next to the menu in this PR, I would like to bring in Maybe additional page or two. That's kind of also work well with the next one update the events page. So this was updated and also + +Denis Lelic: the menu is gonna solve this issue as well. So Zach here stated that the events page. It's hard to find then we had a hero here dropping some ideas. it could be a drop-down and an additional menu item So that issue is going to be solved through the menu as well. + +Denis Lelic: There's another one I wanted to talk about. going back to this one. So I improving pricing page visibility and experience. There was some back and forth here in the comments section. So what we meet upon was to have + +Denis Lelic: a bit of unified experience for the usage pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. So it's gonna be one. Yeah. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: Not sorry. Yeah, I forgot to switch to that. So yeah, I'll just drop. a comment here + +Denis Lelic: in the comment section. I dropped the link for this issue. So what we're trying to solve here is just to provide a unified experience for all things. Pricing related so we have an overview of usage pricing calculator and provider earn calculator. So this is how it looks the GPU pricing is slightly redesigned. So we have this small chart here. That's + +Denis Lelic: talking about availability of each of the chipset then we have the average price and Very in a subtle way. We're also on mentioning the minimum and the maximum price and we have a call to action right now. And all these are just functioning through these tabs here or switches and users can just switch from GPU pricing to use pricing calculator. Play around with these sliders and they're gonna get a number and this number is going to be. + +Denis Lelic: actually, the number they're gonna get in they're gonna get is the pricing for all of the resources on the right but below that there's also a price compare for AVS gcp and Microsoft And the third tab is going to be earned calculator. So if any of the users is looking to provide compute instead of deploy or looking for both. They can also play around with these sliders here and they're gonna find out how much would they earn either in you akt or USD? So yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Maybe here's a better View So we got the pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. So I keep closing the tabs. Sorry about that. + +Denis Lelic: So we got a looks good to me by Greg as well and I think hero already worked on it a little bit. We're Just waiting for him to share the latest update on this. So hopefully we're gonna push this live soon and close the ship. I'll try doing really have any information from Hiro. + +Denis Lelic: Uki's, so we're just gonna wait a while and What the pr brings and I'll keep an eye on it provide some feedback if it's necessary. I think piyush is going to be there as well. So + +Denis Lelic: that's how I look at issues again. + +Denis Lelic: And there are several issues. I think we could. easily Close adding a case study page wouldn't take long. We kind of have the structure in the background and + +Denis Lelic: all of the latest additions to the ecosystem page like the van Sai practice log, IO all of these projects that also have some sort of a case study already written that all that lives in the blog section. So we could just pull that content to a dedicated page just for the case studies and that could live in the menu for example So we have the ecosystem page and then we have case studies pretty users can have a look at all of them or we can just highlight two of them here. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: But that's something as well that I'm waiting for Zach to provide some feedback and leave his thoughts right here. Okay, I think I covered the issues covered and everything that's currently being worked on. So if you guys want to talk about anything bring another issue up. Yeah, please go ahead. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, Robert. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert. Tyler anything else You think we should mention? + +Tyler Wright: Not at this time again for those that are listening later you feel free to introduce yourselves inside the Discord Channel. I know there's a number of people looking to take on some of these issues. So please continue to look at the website. Hoping to get a number of these things merged as soon as possible. Thank you for all people's contributions and looking forward to + +Denis Lelic: Yes, I Feel free to me as well. Add me on Discord. I'm Denis core team. So if you need anything design related, I'm here to support you another issue that came up that I just remembered and could be solved again with the menu is a dedicated page just for providers. So we have + +Denis Lelic: we have three pages here that are talking about providers one would be like a general. page where we + +Denis Lelic: talk about how you become Akash cloud provider what that means how to do it provides and call to actions. The second one would be showcasing the network capacity and all the active providers across the globe and the first sorry third one would be just display all of the providers. + +Denis Lelic: And their details for example, the screen in the middle. So we have basic information about each of the providers where we can show their uptime their gpus resources and the rest of the resources and so on and so on and a call to action to view it on Console as well. So I just realized there's a I'm just gonna put a note here. There's one. Newer version of these screens. I'm just going to drop it here in this issue as well. So + +Tyler Wright: So you're saying that somebody can work on this separate from the menu or do you have to wait for the menu to be created to work? + +Denis Lelic: On this page is already So we have Network and then we have providers so We also have all of the content already. So we just need some restructuring around it. Basically, we would need to introduce. + +Denis Lelic: On I just give me one second so I can find that. + +Denis Lelic: the latest big mud drawing + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, all of this content is already there living in the website. This list of providers is currently under the page ecosystem. So we're just bring it to a dedicated page for providers only and we would need to introduce network capacity and cash providers switch. So users are either interested in viewing. The resources are currently being offered or they can just switch to Akash providers and then they have a whole list of providers here and they can just hit this if you want console and they can find it there as well with additional provider attributes So if they want to deploy on it they can and so on. So, yeah, I think it wouldn't take + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: much effort to tackle this issue as well and bring it. + +Denis Lelic: To the of the new menu experience. So I'll drop a comment and I'll drop a comment under the menu issue and just say these are the pages that we could Live with the same PR it's gonna help with the menu and it's going to solve some other issues that are currently opened. + +Tyler Wright: So basically peers would do that PR. + +Denis Lelic: So yeah over you have this provide new providers page case studies page and… + +Tyler Wright: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: if you have time, you can also have a look at the development page + +Denis Lelic: because It's not just a user experience. It's more like restructuring some of the content on the development page. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, the reason why I'm pushing is because I think we have a number of new contributors in the ecosystem and frankly. Some of these changes are significant improvements in my opinion. And so I would like to have them done before we get into a busy event season. … + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Tyler Wright: and if you go into September and October and new people are clicking on the cost Network website. It's easier for them to find information. There's more information readily available. I think that would be perfect timing. So I would really like to push on these things getting done and… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: then the next. 10 days if possible And… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Tyler Wright: if we need to bring another people we can but if you could push on peers to see these stupendous. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, Peters already showed interest in some of these issues but on the other side, I still haven't received any feedback from Zach I got a pink rag about it, so just to keep them. in the loop and they're aware of the changes that are about to happen or what are we talking about in this working group and so on and so on but yeah, I think piyush could handle all these I think two or three issues and just create one PR and it's gonna + +Denis Lelic: hopefully create a barrier better experience for the users. + +Denis Lelic: Anyone else Okay,… + +Tyler Wright: For No appreciate all the hard work. + +Denis Lelic: sounds good. + +Denis Lelic: And here's piyush. We're just about the Finish. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, no worries. We were just talking about several issues. I showed the menu you've shared with me and we talked about. if you're going to handle some of the other issues, that could be Broad to life with the menu PR I believe we talked about the providers page case studies page. + +Denis Lelic: And another one. That I can remember at the moment yet. I go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: Just a couple things for your peers for the menus and the draft Road looks good. I was just for talk about the providers page is and also the development page. I'm hoping that those pages can be done. By September 1 prior to Korean blockchain week. So that going into a busy event season when people are navigating the experience. I think these + + +### 00:25:00 + +Tyler Wright: Marinade, but I just wanted to see about that and then the second question I had for I have not forgotten so it'll come back to you soon. yes. I've now remembered the ecosystem page Denis. + +Piyush: with + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: It didn't go there. I dropped in there a preferred order. Do you have the capability on your end to switch up that order? Is that something that? somebody from the community can do. + +Piyush: Yeah, so basically okay, I think I already was the pr for I'll take a look. today I must appear God we mentioned. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, there's a DM in Discord, and I think Tyler shared the preferred list. Of projects just basically like a sorting issue. + +Piyush: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: So Zach provided a list of projects that should be listed first and in that or maybe I can just share that with you here. + +Piyush: So basically it's a little deployed on akashness, right? + +Denis Lelic: I just tagged doing in this course so you can have a look on the ordering issue. + +Piyush: And what are the pages are the priorities? So one of the issue that I speak? I think it's a simple combine all the provide related stuff in personal page as for the issue of State. + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Denis Lelic: That's And I would like to bring that with the menu PR. So when you go to the network and you hit providers is just going to show this page here dedicated for providers. I have the figma already there and I know Zach wanted this issue solved. So I'm just gonna DM him and tell him it's ready have a look and hopefully we're good to go. I think the next 10 days Tyler's use as you've mentioned all of these issues could be doable but piyush is here to Get a better. + +Piyush: And also as I already mentioned in your DMs, so when you're changing go many ways, so we have this for people now and got extra version. So what's happening here is up to implementing the moon as we have now Secondly. Let's see the second here. you can create basically design and share it so we can just remove the vertical maps on the pages. + +Denis Lelic: I do hear at the end. Sorry, maybe it's not my connection. + +Piyush: and yes, I'm just saying when we are implementing the new network, so we have the nothing What's Happening Here is of in case of secondary we now have two Nan's pizzas English when it's the vertical map and one is the secondary now, I think from some of the pages we can move the vertical map. if you could write from which means you want that to be removed it would be better. + +Denis Lelic: Yes, I'll provide all the information. I think it pretty much in every page. It could be removed because it serves it's going to replace that now, but I'm not sure if it's gonna work if I do this. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, it works. + +Piyush: first + +Denis Lelic: So it's gonna work in the menu as much better than the current map. So you can just click through these and you're gonna find things much faster. So community events and then this thing is here just because of the test. I'm viewing this in the desktop, but in the menu experience, you're just gonna have a slider where you can + +Denis Lelic: Slide and switch to pages and so on. and there's also … + +Piyush: And and what do you think about that? + + +### 00:30:00 + +Denis Lelic: I just + +Piyush: This one. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: I preferred this one because it's so much easier to navigate because here you have This one and then it's open another menu, but you can also go to this one. That's kind of have these anchor links. Then you have to go up and it's a bit confusing experience with what this Navigation here,… + +Piyush: What so basically yes. + +Denis Lelic: I think this one is much much smoother. + +Piyush: So significant just remove that second thing. Yes. Sorry. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. + +Piyush: and so in case of issues, so the provider speed is going first then we have + +Piyush: And what's the thesis that one of the issue there is on parabies menu even. Second is I would say provider speech and third. + +Denis Lelic: The next one would be actually starting first. We're waiting to hear from hero today and to share the latest. From him it's actually the pricing page. So it's this one? Where we have GPU pricing calculator and provider earned calculator. That's the first one and the pipeline that should be done. Then we have the menu experience. You are almost already have it solved and the next one would be. + +Piyush: Case studies I guess. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah case study studies maybe even provider a screen. + +Piyush: Yeah. Why do some case study so? + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Piyush: you have + +Tyler Wright: Providers and maybe development page or as a development page done. + +Denis Lelic: No for the development page, maybe you have a look at this issue here. There are some design drafts I dropped but again, I think it's gonna offer much better overview of the things that we're currently working on. just from starting at the top having a product and Engineering roadmap link a bit more visible and users can just hit that and it's gonna open up and GitHub then even again, the menu experience is gonna have help but then here I was doing a draft where we could restructure some of the content and provide. + +Denis Lelic: Some important links right at the start. So what kind of deployment tools we have? We have console view the docs. You can go to the GitHub discussions. Then we can talk about how Akash is the open source cloud and we can just have overview of all the open source code bases on GitHub. Then we have Community groups. So basically how Akash is structured how everything is Community Driven and again we can just play around with content here offer popular deployment templates link again to either GitHub or console. + +Denis Lelic: And the latest that I've dropped is this one so for the community calendar we can also do some sort of a sticky button that's going to be always in the bottom right corner and you just hit that and it's gonna open up menu a calendar with all the Meetings happening on that day or… + +Tyler Wright: But I've given a thumbs up already. This is great. + +Denis Lelic: this month and… + +Tyler Wright: The only thing I would change update is on the community groups on this tab right here the screen that you have visible… + +Denis Lelic: so on and so on so that's the draft. Maybe tie have a look at it drop. + +Tyler Wright: if you could add the calendar here as well. So that is always linkable from every page related to the community groups. That would be I know you have it here as a sticky… + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: but on that page or if it's the same page, it's just a different area just as long as it's sticky that would be great. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: And then the only thing that I would maybe add is if you can create a little section that links to the blog I think we talked about this but one of the things that BS is going to help do is create + +Tyler Wright: weekly or monthly blogs around the community groups. So here's what's happened last couple months. Here's how you get involved all that kind of stuff like just a quick blurb for each and I would love to be able to link to that so that people can have the notes the transcripts the videos and then if they just want to read the quick blog and be like, This is a cool thing to the website working group is doing and I think I can help there. They have an easy access to that content. So everything else looks beautiful. And I would love for this to be started to start working on this or have somebody start working on this. + + +### 00:35:00 + +Denis Lelic: Sure. + +Denis Lelic: So the next action item? from me would be To get everyone aligned so bring in Zach we can show some of the issues to Greg as well. So he's aware what's going on? + +Denis Lelic: I'll drop provider screens. So the latest provider screens. And under the provider issue. + +Denis Lelic: And I still have to provide feedback for the menu experience piyush worked on so it's pretty much there. I think it's 19995% there piyusha adjustment like we could add some hover States. + +Piyush: yeah, and also there's some links that can fix for example product and… + +Denis Lelic: And… + +Piyush: Engineering orders right now don't have the proper league so we can just Audit all the links that have been implemented in now and… + +Denis Lelic: it's good to go. + +Piyush: then yeah. + +Piyush: Was removal of vertical maps and that third nav in the mobile speed. as a + +Denis Lelic: It lists. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Where is it? Did I just so this link here from the development product and Engineering roadmap is just gonna lead here. So I'll provide all of the links so + +Piyush: we answered. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I'll put it together and send it over to you and maybe for our next session. It would be great if we have a look at the swag shop. + +Piyush: Yes for sure. Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: swag shop some sort of a facelift or… + +Piyush: Just as per the internet implementation plan,… + +Denis Lelic: new design + +Piyush: The more thing that is going live very soon. + +Denis Lelic: so yeah, it's + +Piyush: I mean today the order on and Your ordering of the projects that are listed on the system page second cases issue number 16, which is the provided speech which we will get started working on just hear me the figma file like them take a look and… + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Piyush: thirdly the menu. I think it's almost done. We'll just change. That's why just share the proper idea about… + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Piyush: how to remove the vertical Maps, or maybe you want to know. Or something like that. + +Piyush: Thirdly pricing and case studies here is already working on them. So let's wait for them to respond if he has done otherwise, I will ask donates and hope with that because our last three development paid. So this will get started working on the development website side by side. And if not instantly we'll have some progress on that as well over time. + +Piyush: Right. Yeah. Thank you. + +Denis Lelic: That sounds good. And thanks for joining. + +Tyler Wright: Yes, thank you piyush. I've added some comments to those issues. So again much appreciated everything. I'm going to continue to push on folks over next couple of days slash a week to see where we are. Make sure that these things kind of live because again, I'd much appreciate these are I think big improvements to the experience make it easier for people to access information and use that information. So really looking forward to this kind of stuff being alive. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, same here. so I suggest we just wrap it up for today. We talked enough. We know what to do next. So we'll talk in Discord and Other channels we have so thanks again for joining and looking forward to all of the progress and the work that can be done in the next week. + +Denis Lelic: Have a good day, bye-bye. + +Denis Lelic: hang up + + +### 00:40:00 + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:40:13 👋 diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..6d69b429 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/035-2024-09-05.md @@ -0,0 +1,257 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #35 + +## Agenda + +- Review updates on the Akash ecosystem page, new menu structure, and provider page +- Overview of completed and ongoing issues in the Akash website GitHub repo +- Discuss updates to the pricing and earnings page with GPU pricing and calculators +- Improvement ideas for the development and community pages, including calendar integration +- Feedback on community contributions and content organization +- Plans for new GitHub deployment feature and user support + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, September 05, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://qkbc3hykcn5filece3rlfxtdqyksijqgqtvl333dzyuoz3xzcj4q.arweave.net/goItnwoTelQsgibist5jhhUkJgaE6r3vY84o7O75Enk) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Participants + +- Denis Lelic +- Dimokus +- Hiroyuki +- James Kano +- Phantom +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- shiny dev +- 亀人小河 + + +## Meeting Notes + +- **Ecosystem Page and Provider Page Updates** + - Denis highlighted recent updates to the Akash ecosystem page, which now includes several new projects. + - The ecosystem page includes new dropdown options to enhance navigation and user experience. + - A dedicated Provider Page was launched, allowing users to view network capacity and access provider-specific details like uptime and resources. + +- **Menu and Navigation Redesign** + - Piyush shared the latest menu redesign, which introduces primary and secondary navigation options, dropdowns, and external links for easier access to stats, the swag shop, and the product and engineering roadmap. + - Users can now access community resources more seamlessly, and the new design improves usability on mobile devices. + +- **Pricing and Earnings Page Enhancements** + - The new Pricing and Earnings Page features: + - Updated GPU pricing calculator with availability indicators for different chipsets. + - A Pricing Calculator with sliders to adjust resource selection and compare costs with providers like AWS, GCP, and Microsoft. + - A Provider Earnings Calculator```````` to simulate monthly earnings based on the resources provided. + - Call-to-action links direct users to the console for deployment, aiming to streamline the user journey for prospective providers. + +- **Development Page and Community Calendar** + - Denis discussed plans to make the development page more visually appealing and easier to navigate by segmenting content into digestible sections with clear calls to action. + - Suggested integrating a **sticky community calendar** to provide users with meeting schedules, and allow switching between daily, weekly, and monthly views. + - Robert proposed adding video previews of working group calls to the community tab to give users insight into different community roles and responsibilities. + +- **Community Contributions Page** + - Denis and Piyush discussed expanding the community contributions page to allow members to contribute blog posts and upload their projects. + - Piyush suggested a new feature allowing community members to publish blogs on a dedicated page, which will be distinct from official Akash blog content. + - Action items include refining PR templates for easier community participation and making contribution links more visible. + +- **GitHub Deployment Feature** + - Piyush shared a new feature in development, enabling users to deploy applications directly from GitHub to the Akash network, eliminating the need for extensive technical setup. + - This feature is currently in testing and will be limited to Python-based applications initially. + - Denis suggested adding information on the development page to guide users to this feature, especially for projects compatible with Vercel or Render. + +-**Closing Remarks** +- Denis thanked participants for their ongoing contributions to the Akash website and highlighted the importance of enhancing usability for both new and returning users. +- The next meeting is scheduled for two weeks from today, with ongoing discussions to be continued in the Discord and GitHub repositories. + +## Action Items +- **Denis** + - Finalize menu navigation, ensuring dropdowns and external links function as expected. + - Highlight community contribution guides on the website and link to GitHub PR templates. + - Add resources and call-to-action buttons to the development page to improve accessibility for new users. + +- **Piyush** + - Complete the provider page updates, including network capacity details and dedicated resources. + - Integrate video examples for working group calls within the community tab to provide greater context for prospective contributors. + - Finalize testing and prepare the GitHub deployment feature for release, with a focus on documentation and onboarding for users. + +- **Robert** + - Work with Denis and Piyush to create video content for the working group calls to support community onboarding and understanding of different roles. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey, everyone, and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website before we get started. Can you hear me? You probably do, Okay, that's great. So + +Denis Lelic: As usual, I suggest we have a look at the current state of the website and the issues. That are living in our github repo. I'll share it in the chat section, so you can follow along. + +Denis Lelic: I'm gonna share this tab as well. So, Several things. Were solved in the previous, two weeks. So updating Akashi Ecosystem page with the latest relevant projects. There's a bunch of new projects that are currently available to have a look at in the Ecosystem page. So, if you have a look, Just click on the eco Page on the network and here you can already see Where we got the Venice AI Prime intellect and so And so, on, all of these were added Not too long ago, so I believe. In the previous week. So, It's good. + +Denis Lelic: I'm gonna drop a comment here so We can just close this issue. We have three issues that were combined into one. They're good one PR. So I'm looking at Main and nav and secondary, nap redesign, and the second one is going to be case studies. And the third one is going to be + +Denis Lelic: share this step as So main NAV review design and the secondary as well. So, adding case studies page and also, Reorganizing The two main network provider pages. + +Denis Lelic: So, we're going to have Some of the work that was done by Piyush and Human Age. Queued team. So, the new menu experience kind of looks like this. So we're introducing dropdowns previously. + +Denis Lelic: Users would have to click on each of these pages. And then in the next page, kind of select. What exactly do they want? But now we got these options and also on the secondary level. We are including these external links for Akash stats, Swag, shop product and engineering roadmap. + +Denis Lelic: it kind of looks like this, so users can just click through. We got the Akash Network Providers page which is new as well, just the dedicated page for providers. Which two options. So Users can switch between network capacity and cache providers. So, in the capacity page, we can see all the resource that are currently offered. We have this map as well. And providers is basically just a list of all the providers that are currently on the network. So yeah, this is the secondary NAV. and this is, The new main nav where drop downs are introduced. So kind of works. + +Denis Lelic: Like this. + +Denis Lelic: And we got the case studies as well. + +Denis Lelic: So if you go to the ecosystem page, there are three options which are showcase tools deployed on We Got and case studies are + +Denis Lelic: It's already open. So we got case studies as well, and these are taking users to a Blog section where we have this tag with case studies and all of these are basically case studies. Per fold from the block section. Okay. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: so, Currently this issue the PR is gonna combine three issues. The first one as I said is going to be the menu, second one is going to be the case studies and the third one is going to be providers just like a dedicated page or providers, but in the previous week or two weeks ago, there was Pricing and Earnings A new page that was introduced. It's reachable through the main menu right here so you click on it and then users are offered. This is a staging link I might as well. Through the live pricing and earnings. and we have a slightly redesigned GPU pricing page with + +Denis Lelic: all the chipsets, we got this new thing here, which is kind of indicating how many available on Website chipsets are on the network. We got the pricing which is taking users to the console where they can directly. Run the GPU. So we got the second option here is Pricing Calculator. Users can hear use the slider + +Denis Lelic: kind of play around with it and How much? + +Denis Lelic: What it cost based on the selected resources here and the price here is provided. So at the same time, what are we doing? We're offering as well. Price comparison. with the Avs, Google and Microsoft. So we can see here as well. A percentage, how much Akash would be cheaper if we would go? + +Denis Lelic: Akash basically. Yeah, so a call to Action to deploy now, which takes users to the console + +Denis Lelic: So there's the third option as Well. Provider Earn Calculator. There's another slider where any user, who's basically interested in providing compute to the network. Can Play around with these sliders and see how much would they earn? if they decide to provide resources, To the network. So basically becoming a provider on the cash. So, There's the Total Monthly Earnings section. And it's also providing the same value in A Users can use the 30 day average price for Akt. So it's kind of change changes and we got the estimated breakdown How much would + +Denis Lelic: A provider earn on a specific resource, so such as memory storage and so on and so on. so yeah, this is kind of new addition to the website and there's plenty of + +Denis Lelic: issues. As you can see here, that needs to be solved and hopefully we're gonna improve their experience. We cover a week and month after month. So we're adding new things where we will be adding A new pages, new sections and so on and so on and so on. So yeah, that's about it for covering what's been done? In previous, So in the next two weeks, there's A couple of issues that are as well. I would like to solve one would be, of course, the issue we just talked about. So, the main NAV providers and the third one was + +Denis Lelic: Case Studies. So I would like to merge that as soon as possible so we can build on top of that. So I'm thinking we should have a look at the developers page. In kind of look for ways to enhance. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Denis Lelic: On the whole experience there. So I'm talking about this page, so development, We're standing off with open source community getting started, and so on, and on, and a calendar as well. It's quite heavy with + +Denis Lelic: With text. So I was just thinking What can we do to make sure this page is kind of a bit more inviting. So we're kind of splitting all of this content into different Shapes and forms sections and so on. So it's kind of easier to digest and we are leading the user. + +Denis Lelic: With information would call the action and so on and so on. So you basically already have an issue created for this and think it's was the first one that was created by Tyler, but it kind of evolve over time. So as you see here, I've added some ideas. + +Denis Lelic: maybe we start here. So we're kind of looked like We would just split all of that text and provide different resources. I got to share So I was just thinking about, Distributing that content into smaller digestible pieces. So users could consume that in which more visual appealing way. + +Denis Lelic: Along with that, I think we can include a community calendar, a bit more prominently, and we would basically create a sticky button and If we use it as high as to click on it, it's going to just pop up and open up all the meetings that are happening today. But it is also an option to switch between monthly daily view, and so on and so on. + +Denis Lelic: And I think we have another. + +Denis Lelic: this one is talking about community groups. Again, we have this new menu experience here, but the community groups are kind of presented this way are often three switches between six working groups and steering committee. And this can just play around. And visit all of these groups have a What's happening in Github discord when the meaning is happening. basically information for the specific group, Let's see, what else do we have here. So we have the first page of the development. So get involved. I was thinking if we could + +Denis Lelic: offer some of the resources that are currently living either in Akash network support discussions like Github docs all as the Kind of like they go to deployment tool, external links for how to contribute code of conduct. We can also showcase some of these + +Denis Lelic: Akash network GitHub, a repose. And there are open source so we can highlight some of those again community groups. As I said the six working groups and Extreme Committee maybe we can showcase some of the popular deployment templates as well. So, this is just the draft, it's still working in progress, so, Hopefully, we're gonna reach the stage where we're gonna say, it's ready for implementation, send it out to any takers who are willing to work on this. If someone is interested, please drop a comment here and I'll make sure to review it. We're gonna plan it and so on and so on. + +Denis Lelic: yeah. I think we kind of covered what happened in the past was gonna happen in the future. So if you guys have any questions, feel free. + +Denis Lelic: to ask, of course, + +Denis Lelic: or if you find something and you think we need a new feature, we need a new addition. On the website. You can always create an issue in the website. Keep Github repo and you can discuss it over there. Yeah. Robert go ahead. + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks Denis, first of all a great job. Only what you actually doing here, it looks. Really. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: Is it just me? But I can't hear you. Maybe it's my + +Robert Del Rey: But once. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, Robert. Can you try again? I just unplug my headphones. maybe I'll be able to hear as I saw your hand went up but I'm not sure. + +Robert Del Rey: What about now? + +Robert Del Rey: Still. + +Denis Lelic: I can't hear you, sorry. + +Denis Lelic: But I hope all of you guys can hear me. So, I hope that all of that chitchatum went to nothing. + +Denis Lelic: And I say, peers just joins so Piyush is one of the main contributors to the Akash website. But I guess I'm having some speaker issues piyush. If you want to talk and the rest of the crew can hear you go ahead. We just covered some of the issues that are + +Denis Lelic: That were solved and some of the issues that you worked on such as the new menu Experience and Case Studies, and Providers page. We had a look at the interview pricing page as well, which is live already. I think The issue. You have any words feel free to speak otherwise if you're not currently, can't speak if you're traveling or anything. We can always talk on discord as well. + +Piyush: Yeah, so I think most of the issues have already been covered by So instantly as we all know, we have revamped the whole pricing page, which is already on the website. But integrations of GPU pricing uses calculator as well as the provider and calculated. And the next issue that we are going to resolve is the completely wampbox the Navigations. So, as the number of pages are going, it is very important to event how the navigation is being updated, moving forward to provide an easier access to all the pages that is coming in. So I think that's pretty much it. + +Piyush: we were also working on providers integrations The providers page is expected across under the ecosystem. what we'll be doing is we'll just launch a dedicated provider page. We're integrate all the resources related to the providers. Yeah, that's very much from my side. + +shiny dev: Thanks for your + +Denis Lelic: But I have no idea of anyone is talking. I see Piyush, I see. Robert is not muted as well, so just please let me know in the comment section when you guys finish. Sorry. + +shiny dev: That's okay. + +Robert Del Rey: Can you guys hear me now? + +Piyush: Yeah, we can hear. + +Robert Del Rey: Okay, you both hear me? Denis, I don't know if you don't hear me. That's totally fine. Let me say what I want to say. First of all, the Web page is coming up. Really good. Thank you for this effort, guys. I want to go to the Community tab. Denis, mentioned That if we have ideas, For making this page more welcoming to the community, which is shared them, and I believe the calendar. It's a great first step. I would think about, + + +### 00:20:00 + +Robert Del Rey: About the cold recordings they call recordings. We're gonna upload them on YouTube. So I guess instead of letting people know that we have these calls which should show them that we have these scores and they have it. And how we have it. So, for example, in this section that's this working groups. Maybe we can add a video for the Syrian Working Group call and that can be a good example for people who want to get more information about the city calls and the working group calls, but that was the quick feedback. Maybe. Videos about the working group calls so people can see right away what they are about instead of really about them. Hopefully, that makes sense. and yeah so far it looks pretty good. + +Robert Del Rey: Another common that I would say. It's about community contributions. + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know if you ever thought about making it easier for people to Click on something. And have a PR ready for them to fill it up and submit the community contribution staff. I remember it was suggested a while ago. And the goal for that was to let the same community member of load, the things they do on a cache onto the Akash website so it's still possible, right? + +Robert Del Rey: But it's not as clear or as easy as it could be, in my honest opinion. So maybe that's something that you can consider. Those are the two main points I can share it over. and besides that, everything looks really, really cool. I especially like the pricing a page and how the GPUs look when you look for them. And since I happened, Mike, let me say the secret word for In case somebody it's interested. Remember it's w W or Word Y Web. And that was my Ted talk. Thank you guys. + +Piyush: Yeah. Thanks Robert. I think that's a great suggestion. So we'll definitely look into it. So, special issues that are open. I think we already have a plan. To make it easier for the committee members to contribute to the website. There will be extending the community contributions from shark to also allow them to write the blocks right now. What are contributions the community wants to make in terms of blog, they go to the blog page but moving forward will probably integrate the block functionality to the Community Contributions page. So the contributions made by community space, when the community contributions and the official things stays on the block. So yeah, that's the plan and hopefully, Will be able to recommend it very soon. Thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks Piyush. I just dropped out of this meeting and rejoined so I can hear you guys Robert in the chat section. I've shared A link to the github repo of the cash website. So, if you just scroll down a little bit Piyush, did a great job and + +Denis Lelic: there's a section how to contribute to Akash website, I'll drop the link here. So it says, how to contribute to the Akash website? there's a detailed guide, how to write a blog, how to add new events, edu, how to contribute to the community contributions, how to add projects to the ecosystem and so on and so on and on. So everything is there. But yeah maybe we just need to highlight that somewhere on the website. so, + +Denis Lelic: Maybe we'll provide a link in the section of community contributions and just link to that thing that I've shared in the chat section. And of course, as Piyush said, We're going to introduce a complete new section for the community can be contributions where a Britain blog post could live and of course, many different things. So sorry again, for I couldn't hear you previously. So, I had to drop out of this call and rejoin. And it works if I turn on my VPN somehow. + + +### 00:25:00 + +Robert Del Rey: It's Google. Don't want you to use VPNs as a reason. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Robert Del Rey: And thanks The instructions actually look really clear. + +Piyush: He? + +Robert Del Rey: I just didn't know this existed. So thanks again for sharing. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, no worries. Yes Piyush. + +Piyush: Also like to highlight that. + +Denis Lelic: Go ahead. + +Piyush: So for the past few months, we were working on a solution that would allow the users to deploy their application directly from GitHub on the docs network. So we were testing the feature internally and it's performing really well. So, hopefully within the next few days or probably weeks to be weeks, it will live on the official console site. We have also received a community grand for the same, so, + +Piyush: I hope this feature will bring in a lot of users, both because it will just eliminate the needs for the users to know how to write an SDL, how to create a Docker knowledge. they just can connect their GitHub. the first three, they want to deploy and just hit the block button on with Akash console. So The feature is limited to how Python applications. We can say, whatever is deployable on versa or random will be deployable in akashed through this picture. So yeah, that's all for myself. It's a little bit out of context but yeah, a little bit from our side. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I think that's Of course, a great addition to the Council, but on the other hand, we can think how can we help and support and make that new feature visible on the website? + +Denis Lelic: we were talking about the development page, maybe there's a section there that's going to be Talking about that, maybe we're showcasing some templates where maybe just guiding traffic through the website. To the console and highlighting that feature. So, everything is connected. so, No worries about, That not being the topic today. So everything is kind of connected one way or another. + +Piyush: Yeah, for sure. + +Denis Lelic: So I think I pretty much covered anything everything that I planned today. So, a lot of work to do will make sure we're always making progress. + +Denis Lelic: And of course, guys, if you need any design support, any questions that I can answer, I'll be happy to answer, Feel free to the enemy on discord. We always drop any thoughts and working group for the website on discord as well. So if you guys have anything else to cover, we still have some time. Otherwise, we can wrap it up for today. + +Denis Lelic: I see a thumbs Thanks again for joining I think we'll see each other again in two weeks. But in the meantime, let's keep the momentum live on Discord and Github. + +Denis Lelic: you soon. Take care. Have a good day. Bye. + +Piyush: And I was able, but + +Robert Del Rey: Thanks for this place that guys. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:38:41 👋 diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..38cb03da --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/036-2024-09-19.md @@ -0,0 +1,268 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #36 + +## Agenda + +- Review of recent pull requests (PRs) and feedback from team members +- Updates on new menu navigation, provider page, and case study page +- Discussion on the documentation process and tagging protocol +- Resolution of provider calculator decimal issue +- AI model integration for generating graphics on the website +- Overview of upcoming enhancements and design initiatives + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, September 19, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://xizhkq2uh33ndaz2rdywz6karsqwbjimryjtoztgkypczywuaz5q.arweave.net/ujJ1Q1Q-9tGDOojxbPlAjKFgpQyOEzdmZlYeLOLUBns) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + + +## Participants + +- Denis Lelic +- Hiroyuki Kumazawa +- Piyush +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- 亀人小河 + +## Meeting Notes + +- **PRs and Feedback on Ecosystem Updates** + - Denis reviewed the latest PR, submitted by Shiny, which adds new projects to the ecosystem page. + - Piyush mentioned two new PRs from Alice: one involves adding new content to the site, and the other is focused on ecosystem recommendations. + - Tyler suggested that, for efficiency, PRs should be merged promptly to avoid delaying additional work and feedback from Zach will be sought in person due to the busy conference schedule. + +- **Menu Navigation and UI Updates** + - The new menu and navigation update introduces a more streamlined structure with dropdown options and easy access to community resources. + - Piyush has a staging link with the redesigned menu, provider page, and case study page ready for feedback. + - Tyler and Denis agreed on moving forward with merging the menu PR to prevent bottlenecks for future site updates. + +- **Documentation Tagging Process** + - Tyler addressed the need for consistent tagging when updating documentation on the site. + - Contributors should tag Scott or other core engineering team members for complex documentation updates, while simpler updates can be handled directly. + - Piyush suggested adding labels to automate this tagging process in GitHub. + +- **Provider Calculator Decimal Issue** + - Tyler noted a user-reported issue where the provider calculator didn’t accept decimal input. + - Piyush confirmed the issue is related to the input boxes, which do not currently accept decimal values. He will address it and resolve the bug shortly. + +- **New AI Model for Website Graphics** + - Piyush raised a potential project involving AI-generated graphics for the Akash website. + - Denis proposed experimenting with training an AI model using representative Akash images to generate consistent graphics aligned with Akash branding. + - Piyush and Denis agreed to explore different AI tools like Flux for generating high-quality visuals. + +- **Design and Content Initiatives** + - Denis is working on drafts for new page designs that will build on the recently updated menu experience. + - Upcoming pages will enhance usability, providing users with more digestible sections and visual appeal. + - Robert highlighted the importance of engaging the community through Discord and encouraged suggestions for further optimization. + + +## Closing Remarks + +- Denis expressed appreciation for everyone’s efforts in improving the Akash website and emphasized the importance of moving quickly to keep updates aligned with community needs. +- The team agreed to reconvene in two weeks, with ongoing discussion and progress updates to continue on Discord and GitHub. + +## Action Items +- **Denis** + - Finalize the new menu PR, incorporating any last feedback, and prepare for the next stage of UI updates. + - Begin testing AI-generated graphics for potential integration on the Akash website. + - Share drafts of upcoming pages with the team for feedback. + +- **Piyush** + - Implement a fix for the provider calculator decimal issue to allow accurate user input. + - Review and merge PRs from Alice after receiving final feedback from Denis. + - Research AI tools for graphics generation and begin testing with Flux. + +- **Tyler** + - Follow up with contributors on documentation tagging protocols and explore label-based automation. + - Monitor community input on Discord for suggestions related to site improvements. + +# **Transcript** + +Piyush: Hello, hello. + +Piyush: Tyler, I think you are not audible to me. + +Robert Del Rey: I can hear your piyush. + +Piyush: Yeah, I think can you hear Tyler? I think is not audible. + +Robert Del Rey: No. I can hear him. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Hey guys, can you hear me? + +Robert Del Rey: Yes, Denis. + +Piyush: Yeah. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, great. I had some issues with my microphone. + +Tyler Wright: Can you hear? + +Piyush: Tyler, we can't hear you. + +Denis Lelic: As Yeah. + +Tyler Wright: Can you hear me? + +Piyush: Yeah, no, no. We can hear. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, I'm not sure if you didn't hear anything from me but just go back very quickly. Again, it's welcome to the working group with Akash website. It's September 19th. 2024 The Working Group, The cost website is a weekly meeting where folks and participants usually led by Denis and Piyush. Go over things related to the Akash website. That's everything from all the pages on the website and now includes documentation which is available at network Slash Docs. again, we usually go through any open issues in the website repo as the folks and get participation, but I'll hand over to Dennis, to get us started with the agenda. I have a couple of things that I wanted to cover at some point, but again, I'll end up with dentist to get it started. + +Denis Lelic: Text Site. Yeah, I would suggest, we keep the usual schedule of this working group. So we usually check on PRS and newly created issues and anything. Of course, website related. I've just added the latest PR in the chat section. Here this was + +Denis Lelic: This was a PR created for adding new projects to the ecosystem page and it was done by Shiny. I provided some feedback on the PR he created and I have to check Everything before we merge all appear to let you know when I check on that. + +Denis Lelic: One thing I talked about with Tyler is still have a look at the issues and Lows, the ones that Either relevant or are completed. Maybe the latest one that was created by convey Ghost Smartphone global menu is necessary to update. We have Not a staging link from Piyush. That's already solving that. So obviously we + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Thanks Tyler for sharing. Yeah I would just suggest we delete this issue or solve it as close or anything. Yeah, I know a piyush. You still owe you Additional feedback, not for my side but from Zack and others on the new menu experience. And we have the + +Denis Lelic: A new providers page and we have Case Studies page. So it's going to be a PR that's gonna do some changes. On the existing website and hopefully for the better, but I'm still waiting for that feedback from others, but they're all of them attending conferences. So it's a busy month this month and hopefully I'll hear back from them quite soon. But again, I was talking with Tyler that maybe we could just merge that thing because first of all, it's an improvement to the UI. That's a content related. So there's no copy changes, basically. So we might + +Denis Lelic: Just merge it without feedback from Zach, I'm pretty sure he's gonna approve all the UI changes because it's way better experience that what we have now. So yeah, you're sorry for. I know you did it a while ago and we talked about it but + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I still don't have the final feedback. + +Piyush: Yeah. Yeah, no worries. I'm also at the token 2049. So today was the second day for the event. And We also hosted a lot of side events here and a lot of presentation was there from the devs under the committee members. So I'll personal chat with Zac, probably tomorrow when we meet to get the final feedback and if he likes it or he will approves or find something that we can change, then we'll do or else. We'll just merge it within a day or two. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Yeah, I didn't know you were attending the same conference. Then great. You can get all the information first hand. + +Piyush: Yeah, sure. + +Denis Lelic: Is it late for you now? + +Piyush: Yeah, I'm in Singapore. So right now it's 9:40 pm So, around me. We just came back from the events around 7 pm. So, I just laying around here in the room. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Cool. Yeah, thanks for joining. + +Piyush: Yeah, no. + +Denis Lelic: Tyler, you wanted to say something? + +Tyler Wright: Thank you for joining Piyush. Yeah, there's a couple things I think I talked to Piyush about this previously with the documentation portion of the + +Tyler Wright: A officially on the website and the groups. for now combined again, that'll change the cadence for SIG, documentation, and with docs being covered here and our core engineering team being very, very thin whenever we have any documentation updates. Again, if it's just like a simple updates, we can push them ourselves. It's a little bit more complex than we're. Just gonna make sure that we tag a member of the core engineering team. either Scott or somebody else just for them to put an eye on it, prior to it, going out just to say, structural formality. I think we talked about that. So I just want to let folks know that contribute to documentation, + +Tyler Wright: if you can tag yourself, Scott McCain Zero. I think it's just pardon me his github, Then I'll save peers some time and effort to happen to do it. And again That's something that maybe we can just add under the labels. That automatically also just adds one of those people as a reviewer but I just want to let folks know that again, much appreciate peers for all the work. And after all the contributors for all that they're doing, this is a great way to contribute. I think there's a number of issues that are either in the process of being resolved and so we'll close those or, being resolve another contributors and ecosystem that are like, + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: Pumping at the bit for new issues. So, again, if you see any issues related to the website or related to documentation that we think in be worked on or if anybody here on the call season the issues, creating an issue here and then we can again talk about it to discord talk about the meetings and then assign it and move forward. Any questions there? I have one more thing I want to talk about real fast, but any questions on that + +Piyush: I think we have two new PRS from Alice it, so one of the PR is related to the recommendations where he's adding some of the new content to the site plus and other PR is related to the ecosystem. I think Denis is already being it called recommendations, I've already tagged Android so hopefully he'll leave it files. I'll just gym skort to take a look and if you approves then we can merge. The peer there is + +Tyler Wright: Excellent, thank you very much. All right moving along. I'm not sure if there's an issue for this yet but I did see a discord that I Akash insider brought this up in the website channel around decimals on the provider calculator is I just want to see if that was something that has been resolved. I know it's from maybe 10 days ago or 12 days ago or is that something needs if initially needs to be created in, somebody can handle that real fast. + +Piyush: so, I think It needs to be resolved. So the issue is more about with the sliders or decimals are visible. But when he's clicking the boxes to write the numbers, I think it's not letting him write the numbers in decimal. So we'll just resolve it quickly and let + +Denis Lelic: So, are we creating an issue for this or… + +Tyler Wright: Thank you very much. + +Denis Lelic: piyush? Will you take care of + +Piyush: So I'll take care of memories notification. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Denis Lelic: I got anything else. + +Tyler Wright: That's all I had. Yeah, No. Those are the two things that I wanted to cover today. with, I guess the third being again I'm just a call to action to people on the call people in the community. Let's see any thing that can optimize the current website. feel free to get drop ideas in discord and issues etc. We can talk about them and then figure out a plan to move forward. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, that sounds good. I have a couple of other things in the pipeline, but first, I would like to see the PR merged with new menu and the rest of the pages. And after that, + +Denis Lelic: I'll create new issues and update some of the older ones new designs. Yes, I go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: Just throwing out the idea. if you have some new ideas that are based upon this PR that needs to be merged, I know Piyush said he's going to be meeting with Zack tomorrow. I know that Zach has previously seeing these ideas and it's supported them. I'm of the belief that we should because this group here has also supports these ideas that we should merge the PR maybe today on a Thursday. And then, if there's any changes that need to be made, we could make those over the weekend or next Monday. Versus Trying to do it tomorrow, which compared to be a Friday, + +Tyler Wright: This is my two cents but I'm happy to move forward. However, I just don't want the process of future PRs that people could be working on to be slowed down by this work. But yeah, that's just based upon new information, So just putting that out there on + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. we have to figure out a way to avoid any blockers, so, + +Denis Lelic: either we call or tag these I'm not sure should call them decision makers, but they were. Pretty much involved in this working group, so if they want to chime in they could, but I wouldn't let it rest for a month or two just to receive a feedback. So personally I would like to move forward faster. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Piyush: So I think what we can do as the work done I think we did it a few weeks ago. So what we can do is we'll just take a day to just review it. if there are unbox, if there are any books will just resolve and then merge, the PR by tomorrow. + +Piyush: Yeah, thanks. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, that sounds good. We'll talk either through discord or any other channels we have. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, from my side. I guess number one priority, would be the PR of that menu. And I'm already working on a couple of design drives for + +Denis Lelic: other pages that we can build on top of that new menu experience. So hopefully I'll create them in the next week or So next time we meet, we're ready to make. Some progress. + +Denis Lelic: so, Anything else you guys want to discuss? I see Robert. Go ahead, please. + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, hey everybody. It's great to see that when you guys work in this class And agree on the next steps. Keep it up guys. Really good job. I just wanted to say the secret word for silly. as it's gonna be the same as last month. w w. With that secret word, you can earn some extra XP points on Akash ceiling. Thank you, Denis. + +Denis Lelic: Thanks, Robert. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, from my side I think it pretty much covered everything, piyush tie. If you're have anything else to add, please go ahead. Otherwise we can make this meeting a bit shorter than usual. + +Piyush: So this one issue that you created on Denis, it's kind of an AI model which considered I think related to So your idea was to basically generate the banners or whatever the user is prompting into the Prompt. It generates basically something related to the cross graphics. So I just want a little bit more brief on this and where do you want to get this added on the website so we can move forward with the addition of this model on the website itself. + +Denis Lelic: yeah, we first have to kind of decide on the direction of these graphics and then we could grab at the moment we have this as the Excel, which is a bit outdated and I think Julius is already working on, you experience with adding and choosing different models. What I was thinking, what we could do is to Train. + +Denis Lelic: Flux model with certain set of images that we think are representative. As of Akash and we can play around with that and what happens and what kind of images are being generated and if that is good enough for + +Denis Lelic: Just to be Representative Akash as a brand. + +Piyush: Yeah, So definitely look into it. So let's see. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, if you find time, maybe you can just play around. I saw there are some + +Denis Lelic: A great resources I think it's called Laura Flux. Maybe I'll + +Piyush: State. … + +Denis Lelic: Look slower collection. + +Piyush: the best image model right now,… + +Denis Lelic: I'm just trying to find a link. + +Piyush: that is present in the market is the flux. So it came into the market recently, but the quality of majors started produces as much,… + + +### 00:20:00 + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. + +Piyush: much higher compared to what others are doing. So yeah, + +Denis Lelic: Yeah. It's way better than the Asia. And as the Excel, So yeah, I'll pick Julie is just to see. + +Denis Lelic: is he making any progress with it or is morally, mainly focused on + +Denis Lelic: Thanks to text model. At the moment. So I'll bring him just to see where we at but in the meantime yeah Piyush. Go ahead, please do some research and + +Piyush: good fine. + +Denis Lelic: We'll see what we can do in the future. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, sounds good. + +Denis Lelic: Our Thai. If you agree, real, we can just wrap it up. So, thanks again, everyone for joining. Feel free to DM me. If you read anything design related, if you want to talk about SIG design, or Anything website related product design related? + +Denis Lelic: On discord, you can find me Denis Core team but keep an eye on the Akash Network website repo, where we Frequently post and create new issues. So if anyone is interested to contribute there, You'll find some work, of course. + +Denis Lelic: thanks again for joining and we'll see each other in two weeks. + +Piyush: Thank you, you + +Tyler Wright: Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Stay safe, everybody. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:23:08 👋 + diff --git a/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md b/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..924c9139 --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-akash-website/meetings/037-2024-10-24.md @@ -0,0 +1,200 @@ +# Akash Network - Akash Website Working Group (WG) - Meeting #37 + +## Agenda +- Review of tasks completed in the past two weeks. +- Updates and ongoing discussions on open issues. +- Suggestions for new issues and task assignments. +- Improvements for the Akash website, including UX updates and community engagement. + +## Meeting Details +- Date: Thursday, October 24, 2024 +- Time: 6:30 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://5vfonw66kuy62zkslvyzffz2y3vr2p36aegwzd632vfshxheyyia.arweave.net/7Urm295VMe1lUl1xkpc6xusdP34BDWyP29VLI9zkxhA) +- [Transcript](#Transcript) + +## Participants +- Benjamin B +- Deathless +- Denis Lelic +- Hiroyuki's Notetaker +- M R +- Piyush +- Rodri R +- Tyler Wright + +## Meeting Notes +### Completed Tasks +- **Logo Update:** + - The Akash logo was updated to align with other initiatives like Chat API. + - Task completed by Benjamin or Piber Dev. + +- **Events Page UX Updates:** + - Reorganized event listings chronologically, removing month filters. + - Adjusted tile graphics for consistency in size and layout. + - Minor design improvements completed to improve the visual experience. + +- **Calendar UI Discussion:** + - Observed inconsistency in calendar views due to ongoing Google updates. + - Decided to keep the issue open until November 4 to allow updates to settle. + +### Open Issues +- **Global Search Feature:** + - Suggested by Piyush and his team to enable global search functionality across the website. + - Awaiting further expansion and detailed UI ideas in the comments section. + +- **GPU Resource Enablement Page:** + - Assigned to Piyush, awaiting updates regarding provider directions. + - Task progress pending confirmation from external contributor Andrey. + +- **Community Page Overhaul:** + - Recognized the need for redesign and additional content for the community page. + - Adam to provide new content ideas, with mock-ups to be created by Denis. + - Focus areas include better visuals, content on community contributions, and integrations. + +- **Calendar Accessibility:** + - Suggested making the calendar more visible via a sticky button or header link. + - Issue to remain open for implementation based on content updates. + +### Contributor Coordination +- **Transparency in Contributions:** + - Tyler emphasized the importance of tracking contributions publicly for community visibility. + - Contributors are to log hours and PRs against bounty tickets for transparency. + - Monthly contributor rewards to be processed based on logged hours and contributions. + +### Miscellaneous Updates +- **Community Engagement:** + - Encouraged increased participation in issue creation and implementation from community members. + - Plans to feature community activities and photos on the redesigned community page. + +- **Upcoming Meetings:** + - Denis to take time off in the next two weeks; Tyler will coordinate meetings and provide updates. + - Future meetings to focus on addressing high-priority issues and ongoing projects. + +### Closing Remarks +- Denis thanked participants and encouraged continued discussions on Discord. +- Meetings to proceed as planned, with recordings reviewed for updates in Denis's absence. + +## Action Items +- **Denis Lelic:** + - Create mock-ups for the community page redesign. + - Monitor calendar UI updates and share progress on Discord. + +- **Piyush:** + - Provide updates on the GPU Resource Enablement page. + - Expand on the global search feature issue with detailed implementation plans. + +- **Tyler Wright:** + - Track and manage contributor submissions for hours and PRs. + - Coordinate meetings during Denis's absence and provide updates. + +- **Adam:** + - Share additional content ideas for the community page overhaul. + +# **Transcript** + +Denis Lelic: Hey everybody and welcome to today's working group meeting for Akash website. For those of you who are joining here for the first time or those that might be listening to the recording these meetings happen, every 14 days, what we meet and discuss everything website related. We usually go through the issues that We fixed in the previous two weeks and then we try to either create or discuss new ones that we're going to tackle in the next two weeks. So I'm just gonna get us going. issues. In the last two weeks. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, it's probably this one because we skipped last meeting, we moved it today. So, This one replace logo as the Excel on with Akash Sdxl. I think this was done, not really sure by who, but it's done. So it's basically this style here. it says Akash sdxl, it's kind of + +Denis Lelic: Aligned with all the other initiatives and products like Akash, Chat API, and so on and so on. so, + +Denis Lelic: So if this icon was distorted kind of compressed a little bit I think Benjamin or Fiber Dev fixed this one. So thank you. I think you're on this call, right? + +Denis Lelic: And then we had advanced Page UX updates. This is a little bit bigger issue. So we've Removed. Some of the functionality here, and The page looks Now, So we have all the events listed we skipped months and we just list all of the events that are happening in. + +Denis Lelic: I don't know, chronological order. So we got a headline here. And tiles and so on. and there's a button to see all the past events. So, This thing here, changes and all of the events are listed here. Yes. And there was a minor change after we did this. It was basically just a line. All of the Images sort of their kind of in the same size and it's not breaking the layout and so on. So this was the issue. + +Denis Lelic: Purify size of the graphics. So that was done as well. Okay, so there's a big discussion happening here around this calendar UI. So basically, there's All right, two views that are happening. Occasionally the first one happens in the majority of times when users view the calendar. And this one happens from time to time, I guess Google was testing at this new calendar and I believe we see + +Denis Lelic: Leon Kurt Master set, a Google assistant process of fully launching this new eye, according to this blog post expert expected to be fully launched by November 4th. So I suggest we just keep this issue open for the next 10 days and we'll see if it's updated but thanks to all of you who joined this discussion. And we're just trying to figure out why this thing is happening. Hopefully, in 10 days, we'll have this issue, fixed and close. + +Denis Lelic: I'm just gonna have anything else happened. And if any other comments happened here around other issues, this issue was brought up by human HQ so Piyush and his team and it was just asking a global search across the whole website. + +Denis Lelic: So Peter and his team, they're gonna expand this issue and provide more details, whenever they find time, I guess. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Denis Lelic: Okay. + +Denis Lelic: I'm just reading the chat here. So here, she's saying we have a live example here. + +Denis Lelic: So it's arbit from Hub.io and Piyush. And his team were suggesting to create this kind of Functionality. I know. Let's try something. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, sounds good. Maybe we can just expand a little bit, the whole idea and everything behind This idea and how the UI would look like here and the issue section in the comment sections. + +Denis Lelic: Some of these issues are a bit. maybe outdated this one for adding FAQ space which is gonna go through these a bit late and see you what can we close + +Denis Lelic: This one has created a while ago. I'm just gonna revisit this one quickly. GPU Resource Enablement page, should contain directions to provider feature. Okay, I see human age. You self assigned this two weeks ago. So piyush, if you can provide us an update, maybe you just drop it here in the comments section if you're not able to talk now. + +Denis Lelic: And this one of course that was created by Tyler a long time ago, and we should definitely work on this but from the Last drafts I shared here. We should definitely have a look at the content. We have to restructure the content a little bit. I talked to Zach about it but he's been working on different tasks and probably whenever he finds time. He's gonna have a look at this thing here and see what can we do. One thing I was talking about we should talk more about integrations here and also, + +Denis Lelic: Some sort of call to action or a section where we talk about startups, and how they can leverage Network and universities as well. So that's something we should add here as well. So I'm gonna create a new mock-up and just drop it here and in the section and when we have a green light for the content, then we can start working on the implementation here. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, Piyush is saying for the last task. Relate To GPU text edition. We will do the PD to R pretty soon. Just need to get the confirmation from Andre. I have already paid him with the preview, Thank so these are the issues that are still currently open. and as usual, I'm gonna leave this part of the meeting open for discussions. If you guys want to talk about anything, maybe if you've seen a bug here, there you want to create a new issue, or you want to tackle some of these that are still open, just feel free to talk. yes, Benjamin + +Benjamin B: Hi, I just want to mention that. I'm jumping in a little for Robert now, for the silly secret code for Participating in this whole And a slow time. The code for this meeting will be www. As in worldwide web. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. Yes, I + +Tyler Wright: I just want to see if there's issues created for the community page or any of those other pages that I know we want people to help contribute, I know we need to do some mock-ups for, I know that Adam is working on content for the community page. And again, I know we have a number of contributors in the ecosystem there looking to get more involved, but I just want to see if there's an issue for the community yet. If not, can we create one? + +Denis Lelic: Sure Which part of the community. Sorry. + + +### 00:10:00 + +Tyler Wright: The end I think the entire community page needs an overhaul. I think right now it's very bare minimum to say the least and so I think the entire page needs a rework redesign and then this is a ton more content that Adam wants to add to it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I agree. I think we're missing. Also something about + +Denis Lelic: A general page about community so we have. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, exactly. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, We have the insiders community contributions and validators. So Especially this page around insiders could tell more, it could be visually more. Engaging, I guess we can share some photos from the events as we discussed a couple of times already, but I'll get in touch, maybe with Adam to see, what are his ideas around it and we can just take it from there. I'll create a mock up. We'll do some iterations and for anyone's interested from the community to create this implemented. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of takers. I'm happy to see each issue has a bunch of people. + +Denis Lelic: Trying to work on themselves, but just great. That's something we were looking for basically, from the beginning of this Building in the open on how to call it, exactly. But I'm sure your guys are aware what I'm talking about. Yes. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I + +Tyler Wright: I just want to add to that for those that are contributing. Yeah, we talked about things, we assign project, if you can drop in just the hours. And I think many of folks are doing. But just as a reminder, if you could drop in the hours and then specific PR inside of the bounty ticket. This is just a way for us to track items in the public. Again, we have ways to contact you all to make sure that you all get paid end of each month for contributions that are approved on via this working group. But I just want to make sure that everybody is putting their contributions in the open because then that gets added to a transparent sheet so they can continue to improve the value of the community support proposal. And all the work that is being done by this group. So again, we try to be as transparent as possible for those that are contributing to the website or Please happy finishing item with the PR in there, just for visibility, and then the hours + +Tyler Wright: again if ours seem like erroneous the community will continue to check each other on that. But again, just put the hours and the prs and then we'll make sure that everyone gets proper rewards at the end of each month. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, I I usually direct all contributors to do the same, so thanks time. + +Denis Lelic: So anything else you guys want to discuss? + +Tyler Wright: Real Quick. Can you go to the development page? Please. + +Denis Lelic: Yes. + +Tyler Wright: Perfect. + +Tyler Wright: Okay, doesn't seem like much of an issue here when I was on a browser, maybe I had a different size computer but the calendar wasn't visible and I was wondering because the calendar is so important. If there should be a link to it at the top in that second header, or if it doesn't matter as much. But right here on your browser, doesn't seem to be an issue, you can get right to it. So I was just really quickly want to see if there's any thoughts on that, but it seems like it's fine for now. So I'll leave it. + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, while we're at the calendar here, it's the I guess already updated UI. So sometimes I'm seeing the other one. Now it's this new one but for the + +Denis Lelic: Let me see. But issue is just threat, you've just raised a while ago, we talked about having community calendar, as a sticky button which would follow the scroll all the time. And + +Denis Lelic: Yeah, it would look like this. So when a user clicks on this, it's just gonna open up the whole calendar and it's gonna look something. In this manner. But as soon as we have, + + +### 00:15:00 + +Denis Lelic: Some updates regarding the content on this page. I'll give a green light here in this issue and I'll share down the discord as well if anyone wants to help with the implementation but yeah, I do agree Tyler with Calendar should be more permanent and In users face. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, cool. + +Denis Lelic: Okay, so We're kind of went quickly through the closed issues and mention all these that are still open and I'll create an issue for the community as well. So if you guys, Agree. We can wrap it up early today and next week and then week after that I'll be taking some time off but you guys are free to meet Tyler's gonna. I'm sure inform you if the meeting is going to move otherwise I'll Have a look at the recording, just to see where we at. + +Denis Lelic: thanks for joining everyone. Happy to see you here, and we'll talk on discord. + +Tyler Wright: Thank you all. Thank you, Denis. + +Denis Lelic: Thank you. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:18:50 👋 + diff --git a/wg-events/meeting-2025/wg-events-001-2024-11-20.md b/wg-events/meeting-2025/wg-events-001-2024-11-20.md new file mode 100644 index 00000000..0909f0fe --- /dev/null +++ b/wg-events/meeting-2025/wg-events-001-2024-11-20.md @@ -0,0 +1,226 @@ +# Akash Network - 2025 Events Working Group (wg) - Meeting #1 + +## Agenda +- Wrap-up discussion on 2024 events and their impact. +- Budget strategy for 2025 events. +- Classification of events into three budget tiers. +- Overview of planned events for 2025 across all quarters. +- Feedback and community input on proposed event plans. +- Logistics, merchandise, and community engagement. + +## Meeting Details + +- Date: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 +- Time: 10:00 AM PT (Pacific Time) +- [Recording](https://hfwetu5tb3iet4fswdz5qgxrv35wupvtdjbmkkjk37ohxmthcmka.arweave.net/OWxJ07MO0EnwsrDz2BrxrvtqPrMaQsUpKt_ce7JnExQ) +- [Transcript](#transcript) + + +## Participants +- Amanda Keay +- Adam Wozney +- Zach Horn +- Robert Del Rey +- Tyler Wright +- Julius Haus +- Joao Luna +- Pavlo Dereniuk +- Maxime Beauchamp +- Forbes Analos +- Damir Simpovic +- Rodri R +- B.S. + +## Meeting Notes + +### Opening Remarks +- Amanda Keay began with a welcome and an overview of her transition into leading event initiatives in 2024 after Adam’s paternity leave. +- Reflected on the success of 2024 events, which included 13 main conferences and six to seven sponsored booths. + +### Key Learnings from 2024 +- High-value conversations and robust community support were highlights. +- Budget allocation was uniform across events, which provided insights for optimizing in 2025. + +### 2025 Strategy and Budget Allocation +- Events are categorized into three tiers: + - **Tier One**: High-budget, maximum presence with larger booths, sponsorships, and additional activities like side events. Example events include ETH Denver and NVIDIA Conference. + - **Tier Two**: Moderate sponsorships with speaking engagements and smaller booths. + - **Tier Three**: Low-budget attendance with speaking opportunities but no sponsorships. +- Budget concentration for tier-one events aims to maximize impact without significant budget increase. + +### Event Calendar Overview +#### Quarter One +- ETH Denver and NVIDIA in California, both categorized as tier-one events. +- Plans include larger booths, side events, and professional content creation (videography/photography). + +#### Quarter Two +- Token 2049 Dubai, Permissionless in Brooklyn, and Super AI Singapore. +- Introduction of "Akash Accelerate" in New York City leading up to Permissionless. + +#### Quarter Three +- ICML Vancouver (AI-focused), ETHCC in France, and Korea Blockchain Week. + +#### Quarter Four +- Token 2049 Singapore, NeurIPS (AI), KubeCon, Masari Mainnet, and Cosmoverse. +- Additional budget reserved for last-minute, high-value opportunities. + +### Community Engagement and Feedback +- Encouraged feedback on the event plan before finalizing in December. +- Robert Del Rey suggested including the Consensus event, which was noted for consideration. +- Discussed involving Akash insiders and community members in events. + +### Logistics and Merchandise +- Emphasis on maintaining the "Akash is everywhere" sentiment at events. +- Plans for new merchandise ideas, including themed items for booths and community giveaways. + +### Budget + - Total budget aligns closely with 2024. + - Strategic focus on high-impact events while maintaining visibility at smaller conferences. + - Unused funds to return to the community pool. + +### Closing Remarks +- Amanda Keay expressed enthusiasm for 2025 and gratitude to participants for their contributions. +- Highlighted the importance of collaboration in maintaining Akash's visibility and impact at events. +- Encouraged ongoing feedback through GitHub, Telegram, or direct messages. + +## Action Items +- **Amanda Keay**: + - Finalize event tiers and calendar post-feedback. + - Coordinate with community members and stakeholders on merchandise ideas. + - Ensure budget alignment with planned activities. +- **Zach Horn**: + - Draft GitHub discussions for community input by end of November. + - Prepare Q1 proposals for on-chain approval. +- **Robert Del Rey**: + - Provide additional details for the Consensus event for evaluation. +- **All Participants**: + - Share feedback on the proposed events and any new event suggestions. + - Suggest creative merchandise or booth ideas. + +# **Transcript** + +Amanda Keay: All right, welcome everyone to our 2024 working events working group. I wanted to just come on here today as we're wrapping up 2024 events and talking about 2025. wanted to just come on here give a little update of what we have done and what I've worked with passing things up from Adam to me and to moving on into the next year. that's kind of where I wanted to begin. + +Amanda Keay: So, I kind of came on really May, I guess when Adam went on paternity leave in June. and we kind of did a whole slew of events. I think we hit a total of 13 different main conference events in 2024. it was a really big success from so many of you that were able to come as insiders as well as just community support on Twitter and Discord. we had a lot of really good conversations. We were able to sponsor booths. I think we had six or seven different booths in the past year. and all those conversations, we went really big on 2024, hitting everything. pretty much having a budget that was equal to each of those events. + +Amanda Keay: And post 2024, we wanted to take all those things that we learned from those conferences and adjust the budgets accordingly to conferences that we thought meant a lot more to the team. we had a lot really good conversations based on attendance and on. So 2025 we have I guess three different tiers of budgets that we're going to be working with. tier one is going to be our biggest one. We're planning on bringing the most amount of people to those conferences. we're going to be sponsoring the main conference, having an extended and bigger booth usually. we've been doing 10 by10 booths and it's been really good. It's been packed, but we're getting to the point of needing to expand a little bit. so we're trying to go to a larger booth, have a bigger presence at some of these tier 2 events are also going to be sponsored. + +Amanda Keay: So, we're going to have speaking engagements, sponsorships, booths, side events, the whole shebang. roughly looking between five people to attend those conferences. And then lastly, our tier three event is going to be no sponsorship. We're going to come and take those conferences, apply for speaking engagements, but, kind of just attending the events instead of the ones sponsoring. So, we're going to be using those smaller events, the ones that are close to New York City or some of them in Europe and things that are close to use those opportunities to just have a smaller presence. not as much budget not as much overhead is going to be needed for those events. So, that's kind of what Zach and I along with some more of the core team have put together as far as our tiers for moving into 2024. + +Amanda Keay: I'm going to share my screen in a second so that I can share which events we plan on hitting into 2025. But while I do that, Zach, do you have anything to add before + +Zach Horn: No, I think that was a great overview. I mean, that's generally the high level strategy and I think what as you're pulling up the document, you'll see how we've broken these things out. by far the largest, tier two coming in much lower than that, and then tier three is really tertiary, very small. + +Amanda Keay: They're not in order of when we're attending. + +Zach Horn: The general idea is that, this year we did this huge range of events. We did everything right. But what we felt like going into next year is that we can concentrate the budget that we have towards these larger tier one events that we know are really high value and then take some budget away from some of these smaller events that are worth attending but maybe not having a huge presence. So let's jump right into the doc and just I would run through all the events we're going to go through Amanda and then we can jump into the tiers as well. + +Amanda Keay: I started off the first quarter. So we're going to be attending ETH Denver and Nvidia Denver is obviously in Denver. Nvidia is going to be in California. both of those are going to be in the first quarter. They're our largest tier. So we're doing a bigger booth sponsorship bringing out a bunch of people. + +Amanda Keay: We're going to have speaking engagements. insiders are obviously coming out as well. We're going to be doing side events and all of that. So, the budget for tier one, as you can see, is 283 roughly around there. with bigger booths, it comes more money. With spending more people also, it's just naturally you're going to be spending a little bit more. we also have budget in there that for some of these side events or an official summit in a correlation to a big conference. We'd like to have an AV team come and shoot some really good content. so we have that in the budget as well. I'm not saying we're going to do it for every conference and of course those funds will be returned back to the community pool if we don't use them. So, those are the first two events for quarter 1. I guess I can go to quarter two. + + +### 00:05:00 + +Amanda Keay: It's kind of out of order. Sorry guys. Token 2049 Dubai is going to be in quarter 2. Permissionless. Super AI Singapore, those are all quarter 2 events. I think Permissionless is going to be in Brooklyn this year. So, that's exciting. We're planning on also for those of you who attended or heard about Akos accelerate, we are going to be doing AOS accelerate in New York City in correlation or just leading up to permissionless. So that's really exciting. So looking to do that in June. The dates are not set yet, but that'll be a totally different proposal. + +Amanda Keay: moving on to quarter three, if I can see, ICML Vancouver, that is an AI conference similar to what we're going to be doing, in just a few weeks, with Nurips. it's going to be a very academic developer focused AI event. So, we're planning on hitting that one in quarter 3. ETHC, which is going to be in France this year, and Korea Blockchain Week. So those are the main conferences for quarter 3. And then for quarter four we have the two big moving back to the top. We have token 2049 Singapore which was really good this past year. So we wanted to expend our budget a little bit for that as well as nurups. that's the other AI conference that we're going to be attending. And then CubeCon, Masari mainet and Cosmoverse. I'm not exactly sure when Cosmoverse is going to be this year. + +Amanda Keay: So, I have it in quarter four, but that's just based on the last few years. It's been roughly around the end of quarter 3, quarter four. and then at the end, you can see in line item 15, we have an overage amount. That's going to be kind of up to community and core team members to decide if there are any conferences or anything that we would like to attend. so often things get presented to us last minute. So it's not something that we can plan for if a Stanford blockchain week we wanted to go out there we have those funds in order to do So we have a little bit of budget there to bring community members out to attend hackathons. yeah the one-off conferences that are maybe in SF or Austin or New York City that we feel like would be a really good thing to attend but it's just not presented to us with months in advance. + +Amanda Keay: I guess after that I will take a little break and see if anyone has any questions based on this. And also please raise your hand if there's a conference on here that you would like to potentially see us going to. this is a working document. We're not planning on putting anything on chain until after Thanksgiving for the US holidays. So we have some time to work through this and would love to get your feedback for those of you who attended or community members who are joined us today. I see thumbs up, which is good. anyone have any vocal opinions? I love talking, but okay, Robert. + +Robert Del Rey: + +Robert Del Rey: Yeah, the list is very solid. like you say, I guess it's better to focus on those big events and those events that the audience can have a bigger impact for a cashache as far as reach goes and also a cash can have a bigger impact on those events since they are crypto and AI. I just noticed that on the list you don't have a consensus added. + +Amanda Keay: + +Robert Del Rey: I don't know if they're going to do that in 2025, but yeah, overall it looks really solid. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah, thank you. + +Amanda Keay: We don't have consensus on the list. I know that was one that It was based in Austin in the last few years. It's moving up to Toronto this year. Let me actually check. I'm not sure what's the date on that. it might be. But I will write that down. and if it's one that it's May 14th through 16th. but I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thank you, Robert. Does anyone else have anything? No. Zach, do you have anything to add? + + +### 00:10:00 + +Zach Horn: Yeah, I would say the one point that's worth highlighting here is you see that the total budget that we're looking at for next year is roughly in line of our budget for this year. It's a little bit more but not an order of magnitude bigger or anything like that. what essentially we're getting out of this is because we're concentrating budget towards these tier one events, our presence when we go to Denver, when we go to GTC, right, is going to be significantly larger. we're bumping up to a whole different sponsorship tier. We're going to have a much larger booth. + +Zach Horn: We're going to have professional videography and photography and all those things, So, basically what we're doing is we're concentrating the budget, right, without pushing the total budget significantly. So, we're essentially doing more with roughly the same amount of funds, which one I think is going to be great for the community. + +Amanda Keay: + +Zach Horn: And then as Amanda was saying, this budget just gives us room to do a lot more of the things we need to be doing, but for whatever reason we end up short of the budget, all of that goes back to the community full. So, there's nothing no wasted funds. + +Amanda Keay: One other thing,… + +Amanda Keay: if you look over onto the event mix, one of our goals for 2025 was to try to get to a more even split of blockchain conferences and AI conferences. Right now we're at 33 and 60%. So it's getting close. we are planning on this weekend we're sponsoring a hackathon with Meta and Cerebral Valley. So that would kind of fall under the AI sort of events. So we'd like to try to keep that split a little bit more even rather than just solely focusing on blockchain conferences. + +Amanda Keay: that's why we're planning on attending and doing the larger tier events for Nurups, for NVIDIA and all the ones that are listed here. as well as trying to build out our presence a little bit more, in SF and trying to get connected there with AI developers and some hackathons. So I know Adam is working with the community and with hackathons. So, we've been talking and we're going to continue to, be aligned on that and try to make our budgets stretch as far as we can. I know a lot from the community when I've been attending the conferences, people from the community have come to me and said it's a cautious everywhere, which I love to hear. So, we want to continue that. I don't want to ever scale back that and now it looks like we're not attending. So, that's why we have pretty much the same roughly the similar budget. + +Amanda Keay: + +Amanda Keay: We're attending 14 conferences with potentials in between with that overage funds. So We still want to have that sentiment of everywhere we look a cautious there without wasting money and focusing our efforts we want on the ones that we think will be the best for the company. So that is where we are at right now. not really sure how to end this. + +Amanda Keay: If + +Zach Horn: Just real real quick,… + +Zach Horn: Amanda, I saw maybe someone else just joined. we were talking a little bit earlier if there was any feedback or any other events you think we should attend. So, not to put you on the spot, Julius, but if you have any questions, comments, happy to hear them. I'll take one emoji. I'll take that. by the way, Julius, not to derail this meeting, but the AOSGen roll out was fantastic. So, I'll give you a little public shout out even though it's not on topic for this meeting. Tyler, go ahead. + +Tyler Wright: + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, I think we got great feedback or at least opportunity for people to give feedback. I think there'll be a discussion that will go up so people can provide additional feedback. the only thing I'll remind people is typical those that want to go to these events, can go through the cash insiders program and then from there again there will be signups throughout the year for those that want to participate in these events. So, just a reminder to folks, that maybe joined sick community call yesterday,… + +Amanda Keay: Thanks. + +Tyler Wright: and heard the plan from Adam about the community efforts for 2025 and just how folks can get more involved in events like this,… + +Tyler Wright: etc. So, amazing work, sorry, not guys and gal. All y'all. + +Zach Horn: Yeah. Yeah. + +Zach Horn: What's the plural of All y'all. + +Tyler Wright: Yeah, exactly. + +Zach Horn: That's That's right. in terms of timeline, what we're thinking at this point is that we're going to wait to get through Thanksgiving, then we're going to put this on GitHub discussions. So there's going to be a chance to drop in notes or feedback or anything else async if you want to do that on GitHub. That'll be up for a month through the end of the year or so. And then I think the last plan I heard was Huie is that we're going to do the Q1 prop on chain. So that'll be next year. But look, we'll make sure you guys have the link once it's on GitHub. And if you want to drop any feedback there, definitely feel free. + + +### 00:15:00 + +Amanda Keay: + +Tyler Wright: And otherwise we can end early. + +Amanda Keay: Yeah. No,… + +Amanda Keay: thanks, Zach. does anyone else have anything to add? + +Tyler Wright: That's all we wanted to cover is just like the plan and then folks can see the discussion and give their feedback live, get their feedback via the discussion and then we can move forward. + +Amanda Keay: Yep. Awesome. + +Tyler Wright: Appreciate it. + +Amanda Keay: Thank you everyone who showed up today. and looking forward to killing it in 2025. I'm super excited. I have a lot of great ideas for events for next year and it brings me a lot of joy. and I like meeting all of you, too. So, yes, I do have Okay, hold on. We're not that is happening. I know this is recorded. I used to hate on Crocs. Sorry about this, guys. + +Amanda Keay: I own three pair and I'm going to get a fourth and then get the little aos things to go on it. So yes, that's the plan. Thank you Luna for bringing that up. We got to have the koozies too for Adam. I know it's ridiculous, but got to bring those out. so love the community ideas, too. So keep them drop them to me if you think of anything that's cool that you'd like to see at the booth or for swag. that's a whole other discussion that falls under the merchandise side of things, which we're planning on doing a lot of really cool things moving into next year as well. So if there's anything that you guys want to add, please u my DMs are open both on Twitter and Telegram and everywhere. So thanks for coming everyone and look forward to seeing some of you guys soon. + +Zach Horn: Awesome. Thanks,… + +Rodri R: Thank you guys. Bye. + +Zach Horn: guys. Take care. + +Tyler Wright: That + +Joao Luna: Thank you. + +Robert Del Rey: Thank you. Bye-bye. + + +### Meeting ended after 00:17:25 👋 + + diff --git a/wg-zealy/README.md b/wg-zealy/README.md index ede79a97..8d66c496 100644 --- a/wg-zealy/README.md +++ b/wg-zealy/README.md @@ -22,9 +22,13 @@ The working group is created to work on the proposal to see what support is need | #10 | Monday, March 18, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/010-2024-03-18.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/010-2024-03-18.md#transcript) | Coming Soon | #11 | Monday, April 15, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/011-2024-04-15.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/011-2024-04-15.md#transcript) | [Link](https://bddlwy5cp5qgwpvbfyvqq255oa6uprp2xtxdhpplr5k7syqvd2qa.arweave.net/CMa7Y6J_YGs-oS4rCGu9cD1Hxfq87jO9649V-WIVHqA) | #12 | Monday, April 29, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/012-2024-04-29.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/012-2024-04-29.md#transcript) | [Link](https://rfo5d4qnnddwhhwyncat6u6gjone7ohuotiv6op3rvzu3va5glpq.arweave.net/iV3R8g1ox2Oe2GiBP1PGS5pPuPR00V85-41zTdQdMt8) -| #14 | Monday, August 12, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/013-2024-08-12.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/013-2024-08-12.md#transcript) | [Link](https://5rakdvpt3sei3x6byxuc3roh4lpiz4mucxketzy2pmvphvhkipza.arweave.net/7ECh1fPciI3fwcXoLcXH4t6M8ZQV1EnnGnsq89TqQ_I) -| #15 | Monday, August 19, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/014-2024-08-19.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/014-2024-08-19.md#transcript) | [Link](https://ywvlgtl7bqzi5c2tibnbvs6j4rufukc2cwa5p7dsp33ulbiusiha.arweave.net/xaqzTX8MMo6LU0BaGsvJ5GhaKFoVgdf8cn73RYUUkg4) -| #16 | Monday, August 26, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/015-2024-08-26.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/015-2024-08-26.md#transcript) | [Link](https://hptrexukvlr4pusvwjqanuzqoir26icxztgxgoocffukadhuigfq.arweave.net/O-cSXoqq48fSVbJgBtMwciOvIFfMzXM5wilooAz0QYs) +| #13 | Monday, August 12, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/013-2024-08-12.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/013-2024-08-12.md#transcript) | [Link](https://5rakdvpt3sei3x6byxuc3roh4lpiz4mucxketzy2pmvphvhkipza.arweave.net/7ECh1fPciI3fwcXoLcXH4t6M8ZQV1EnnGnsq89TqQ_I) +| #14 | Monday, August 19, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/014-2024-08-19.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/014-2024-08-19.md#transcript) | [Link](https://ywvlgtl7bqzi5c2tibnbvs6j4rufukc2cwa5p7dsp33ulbiusiha.arweave.net/xaqzTX8MMo6LU0BaGsvJ5GhaKFoVgdf8cn73RYUUkg4) +| #15 | Monday, August 26, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)|[Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/015-2024-08-26.md)| [Link](https://github.com/akash-network/community/blob/main/wg-zealy/meetings/015-2024-08-26.md#transcript) | [Link](https://hptrexukvlr4pusvwjqanuzqoir26icxztgxgoocffukadhuigfq.arweave.net/O-cSXoqq48fSVbJgBtMwciOvIFfMzXM5wilooAz0QYs) +| #16 | Monday, September 09, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| Coming Soon| Coming Soon|Coming Soon +| #17 | Monday, September 30, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| Coming Soon| Coming Soon|Coming Soon +| #18 | Monday, October 07, 2024 06:30 AM PT (Pacific Time)| Coming Soon| Coming Soon|Coming Soon + ## Leads