Equipment Owned & Wished for Shop

[olisny]

Owned

• miter saw

Wished

• dust collection (under leadership discussion)

[GeekPatrolMiller]

Lathe and cutting tools appropriate for the materials to be cut

[cloudislands]

Draft of current and wished items, basic notes and layout for further discussion. This is just a draft and I will convert layout to visio so we can track equipment dimension to space allocation more precisely.

Thelabs workshop List- Draft.docx

[lastcoolnameleft]

Thanks @cloudislands for the detailed diagram. That will definitely help with the planning and execution of the dust collection. A few concerns I have are:

• Air is right next to where the current storage is. We need to consider where we will keep storage misc. parts
• Air is also next to the internal circuitry/wiring for the door/internet/etc. We'd need to be very careful about that.
• I forget, was there a plan for a "movable air unit" as a temporary workaround? Could/would that change the layout?

[cloudislands]

Tommy thx for your comments. A couple of quick points and specific responses inline;

The layout was driven by noise considerations, then estimated space req by specific machine. Thus no machines against the interior wall for less noise impact within the lab, extra space for the miter cutting station/cabinets to allow for longer pieces and additional storage and less space for the table top drill press and so on...

My main concern a month in this now is that there is no sense of urgency around the workshop and that there is not a consistent message about the intention of the space i.e. woodshop vs craftsroom. I've reached out to several folks I was told would have a vested interest in the shop and it just doesn't seem to be a priority. (Is there a better method to communicate these discussions to a broader group?)

Air is right next to where the current storage is. We need to consider where we will keep storage misc. parts: I still maintain that a large expensive air system is overkill for the space and will require more retrofitting and impact precious space. A smaller portable unit is versitale, plenty powerful, quieter and can be connected via many DIY methods including automated smart valves at station. Happy to elaborate in another post.. Storage; the interior wall would house large peg board storage along with shelves and cabinets etc

Air is also next to the internal circuitry/wiring for the door/internet/etc. We'd need to be very careful about that. A portable smaller unit would solve this and has less power requirements.

I forget, was there a plan for a "movable air unit" as a temporary workaround? Could/would that change the layout? Response above. There are some very cool arduino driven valves that are cheap and easy to build and would be a great project to gain interest in the shop.

[olisny]

CloudIslands, I think a good way to resolve a lot of the waffling over the air system is to have a list addressing pros, cons, and costs. I've heard several people find units that will "do the job," but frankly I don't think that everyone (myself included) has enough information on the matter to actually make a committed decision.

Personally I don't think we need a huge system; I think a smaller, portable stepping stone would be good for growth. The idea behind the shop is to bring more members; more members mean more money, and (ideally) eventually moving to a larger space that necessitates a giant system.

I am all for pegboard systems. The less shelves, the less space they are eating up, and the less crap they collect. Pegboards can hold shelves for things that need it; larger items can have built-in storage below workbenches. In my design, I tried to keep as much storage on the walls as possible.

Thanks again for your initiative on this project! 👍

[lastcoolnameleft]

@cloudislands Thanks for the feedback.

Regarding the urgency, I agree that has been lacking. (I was recently elected to Facilities coordinator and then out-of-country for 2 weeks and came back home to multiple deaths, so it hasn't been the top priority for me.)

The plan for the "triangle room" is one piece of the puzzle for the overall facilities and budget which I am working on now. It will be discussed in the upcoming "Improve the Space" meeting this Sunday (https://www.meetup.com/TheLab-ms/events/251603931/).

I invite you (and anyone else interested) to attend as we will solidify the requirements and plan to fulfill on the workshop.

P.S. I'm a fan of a smaller, mobile unit if that will prevent us from having a huge expense and spread the cost out.

[lastcoolnameleft]

@cloudislands Can you put your thoughts on the filtration system here: #2

[cloudislands]

Apologies I've missed the last couple of responses the last couple of days.
I will be at both meetings this evening and we'll get there early to put some of these notes together and will be available to speak up if allowed

[cloudislands]

also posted at #2

Specify which Dust Filtration System to purchase:

Central Machinery 70 gal. 2 HP Heavy Duty High Flow High Capacity Dust Collector
Harbor Freight https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html
$199 less 20% coupon= $160 + tax
add $100 for misc connections and cyclone 2-phase collection if needed but most tools have standard connections built in. https://www.amazon.com/Oneida-Molded-Dust-Deputy-Cyclone/dp/B002JP315K

Specify "resting place" for Dust Filtration System
Stick in a corner as phase 1 would be completly mobile with connection hose to move when needed. Phase 2 option would be to install conduits to each station but this could wait for bigger space.

Propose purchase to Board
consider this proposed? I'm at meeting tonght.

Purchase Dust Filtration System
could be up and running this weekend

Install Dust Filtration System
Phase 1 set up only. start scheduling small projects

[Pauldy]

This was the one we were looking at for the small particle collection 1micron 115V 1k+ CFM

https://smile.amazon.com/Jet-JCDC-1-5-Cyclone-Dust-Collector/dp/B01683ZU8O

[cloudislands]

Quote Report Plano MS.pdf

[cloudislands]

Here formal quote on machine with basic connections based on my meeting with woodcraft management. They priced by pulling in a sale coming in august to give us 10% off the machine and avoid any price increases happening with tariffs. 50% off accessories.

I obtained copies of their safety documents they use for each machine and he committed to having one of his trainer come over to do a kick off meeting as well as speak with corp regarding promoting the space in their promotional emails.

Keep in mind that no dust collection capture everything and that the most vulnerable areas are at the specific machine. I suggest we kickoff with a simple of a miterstation/cabinet that has a dome which will help capture aditional dust. This would be a great and simple project to get interested parties involved and only take a few hours.