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S14: Issues in the roles spec #80
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Per jnthn's request, an example without multis or subsets:
That prints
That prints |
Let me give a practical example. (doing this on my iPad, forgive me if
ie Real has a very generic version of sign, and Rational a more specific A) I'm hoping this is a valid, even encouraged, use of roles. (If it not, B) In this example Real does Rational would have a completely different |
@colomon But that's OK. In typical multi dispatch the more specific type wins. Let's say I have this:
That should dispatch to the method which has a |
Many people have read Traits: Composable Units of Behaviour (Composable), but the authors were targeting a Smalltalk audience and made assumptions in this regard which means that some concepts do not translate as well as they could (source: personal email with researchers).
Unfortunately, most people have not read Traits: The Formal Model (Formal), which is an even more important paper.
To truly understand these issues I'm raising here, I would suggest being familiar with both, but I won't assume familiarity.
Background
Traits were partially a response to the failure modes of AOP, an interesting concept which took the reviled concept of "Action at a Distance" and made it a first class concept in programming. However, to make it work, "aspect aware" editors were generally required. These editors would often assume a static language where much information could be inferred at compile-time, such as whether a pointcut applied to a join point and would highlight that in the editor. Thus, if you didn't have an aspect aware editor, you could easily make changes that would fundamentally alter the behavior of the software.
For example, a friend of mine was trying to fix some Java code that would sometimes spit out the wrong answer. What he finally discovered was that someone had used aspects to lock methods in threaded code, but because they were using pointcuts, a programmer had renamed a method and the pointcut no long matched that method, meaning that in threaded code, it was no longer locked. It was literally impossible to read the class and determine that there was a bug, aside from noticing that this threaded system didn't appear to be locking any methods.
With traits, in the "Composable" paper, conflicts are specified as resolving using two precedence rules:
It's the first rule which assumed a Smalltalk environment and, like AOP, required a "trait aware" Smalltalk browser. However, this was omitted from the paper. In Perl 5, when roles were introduced, that was believed to mean that a class silently overrode conflicting trait methods. However, that is not what was intended. From my email with the traits researchers (shared with permission):
This makes perfect sense because in Smalltalk, the browser and the language are integrated directly together. Further, from Andrew P. Black:
Thus, due to some unspoken assumptions in the Composable paper, many others have gone down the path of silently discarding behavior that may be critical. This has bit me in my time at the BBC working on a large-scale metadata system and when we're talking about large systems, it makes maintainability harder.
Today
Here's a trivial example of the issue in Perl 6 (note that the following example does not use multis, but we'll cover their problems later):
That works as expected. However, a programmer might decide to add critical behavior to
Alpha
:In the above code, not only will that critical behavior never be called, but those consuming the role (even indirectly) won't have the opportunity to realize that the critical behavior has been added. It's the same problem as with multiple inheritance when someone adds security constraints to a class which are silently bypassed by a child multiply inheriting. It's important for the developer to know this is happening and have a chance to make an intelligent decision.
Associativity and Commutativity
In both MI and mixins, we have ordering problems. With the former, "first wins" and with the latter, "last wins". This has long been the bane of developers and is one of the many reasons why many programming languages disallow MI outright.
In the Formal paper, section 3.4 says this:
Associative:
Commutative:
In other words, no matter how you mix and match roles, for a given set (formal term) of roles, no matter how they're ordered and mixed, the programmer is guaranteed the same behavior. However, that is not true for Perl 6, even though the S14 spec says "There is no ordering dependency among the roles."
(As an aside, some might point out the counter-example of a role with an excluded method, but technically, a role is defined by both its name and the methods it provides, so a role with an excluded method is a different role. That makes
$object.does($foo)
a bit more complicated)In the above example,
Alpha::foo::something
is printed. If we reverse the order of role composition,Beta::foo::something
is printed. Thus, roles which implement conflicting multimethods are order dependent. Some programmer thinking that role ordering isn't important (as the spec says), can sort the roles by name to make it easier to find them and silently change the behavior of the program.The associativity rules are also broken. Consider the following example:
(Note that
Gamma
is declared, but not consumed).That prints
Alpha::foo::something
. However, if you change the class to this:That prints
Beta::foo::something
becauseGamma
implementsBeta
and it's now consumed afterAlpha
. This is not a simple case of "the developer implementing the class should know whatGamma
implements" because this behavior may well not have existed at the timeMyClass
addedGamma
.I've also created similar examples by putting my roles in separate files and having a consuming
Gamma
, consumeAlpha
which consumesBeta
(all without multis) and then consumingBeta
which has been switched to consumingAlpha
, such that you get different answers, even though the final class hasn't changed. When working on larger systems, having such role ordering issues is problematic.Recommendation
This is very simple: rather than silently discard behavior, issue a warning when one class/role is going to override a method provided by a role and allow the programmer to manually resolve the issue.
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