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(user submitted) Greek morphological omissions and improvements #20

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lcerrato opened this issue May 19, 2020 · 18 comments
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(user submitted) Greek morphological omissions and improvements #20

lcerrato opened this issue May 19, 2020 · 18 comments
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Going to compile some user suggestions here. I'm not endorsing or verifying the accuracy.

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lcerrato commented May 19, 2020

  • 1. κεκαμμένος should be pass.pf of κάμπτω (already linked to κάπτω)
  • 2. στρώσασ᾽ in Aeschylus' Agamemnon 921 resolves to στόρεννυμι but right form is στορέννυμι (interesting that this does not resolve at all presently LMC)
  • 3. νεμεσσήθητε and αἰδέσθητε should also be listed as aorist imperative passive 2nd pl.
  • 4. παρένεγκε should be listed as 2nd pers sing imperative
  • 5. ἔθειρα should include subj 3 sg of etheírô tend, till, cultivate
  • 6. ἔνι should be listed as 3rd pl of ἔνειμι
  • 7. doesn't seem to recognize any forms of ἐγγίζω.
  • 8. θραυσθέντα not analyzed (Jebb says θραύω break in pieces, shatter)
  • 9. ἀνακλίσεις ἀνάκλισιν ἀνάκλισις ἀνακλίσει forms not found
  • 10. ἕσσο plpf. 2 sg. according to LSJ (morpheus reads verb 3rd sg plup ind pass epic)
  • 11. ἤσκειν verb 3rd pl imperf ind act epic nu_movable s/b 3rd. singular

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lcerrato commented May 20, 2020

  • 12. tool returns "mid/pass" for aorist forms. For example, it shows qesqai as the the aorist infinitve mid/pass of tiqhmi; teqhnai is the aorist infinitive passive, there would not be a "middle-passive" form; it would show all three forms, active, middle and passive; so the aorist "mid-pass" forms should be labelled "middle" instead. I believe this would be true of aorist forms generally show all three voices.

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  • 13. πάτρας | noun sg fem gen attic doric aeolic should not include attic here
  • 14. προωρώμην analysis differs from Strong's (may have been corrected)
  • 15. ἄφρων (adjective) missing masc/fem vocative
  • 16. (ἄ)μεικτος should resolve to (ἄ)μικτος
  • 17. μάρις listed as feminine should be masculine
  • 18. ἐπέφυκον should be epic pluperfect not aorist (I think this is a misreading of the LSJ- LMC)
  • 19. προσεθρέφθη not found (aorist passive of προστρέφω)
  • 20. ἀπεστάτουν not found (Aesch. Lib. 445)
  • 21. καθημενος καθημενοις καθημενω καθημενοι καθημενον καθημενους καθημενου καθημενων καθημεναι καθημενης καθημενην καθῆσθαι s/b present tense
  • 22. ἀμυγμός | noun sg masc nom resolves to ἄμυγμα which is neuter
  • 23. βοστρύχοις | noun pl neut dat is incorrect, as this is a masculine noun
  • 24. ἐπεσσεύοντο (Hom. Il. 2.86) incorrectly parsed to wrong verb s/b ἐπισεύω (not πεσσεύω)
  • 25. Iliad, Homer, Book 2, 791: εἶμι = to go is wrong, correct is εἴδομαι

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  • 26. two mutually exclusive forms listed from ἀπαντάω: ἀπήντων | verb 3rd pl imperf ind act attic epic ionic contr (correct?) and ἀπήντησαν | verb 3rd pl imperf ind act attic epic ionic (incorrect?)
  • 27. ἄγεϊ should not be listed under ἀγάω
  • 28. According to all my sources and Verb tables, the V-PAO-2P option should not
    be listed under θεωρεῖτε, which would be θεωροιτε (??) This problem is widespread, as I have seen it in many other words, one of which is ποιεῖτε, which would be ποιοῖτε.
  • 29. According to all my sources and Verb tables, the V-PMO-2P/V-PPO-2P option
    should not be listed under θορυβεῖσθε, which would be θορυβοισθε
  • 30. γεωργοιο the expected V-PAO-2S form for γεωργέω not γεωργοῖς
  • 31. Should this Aorist form have pres_redupl? ἐδίδαξα | verb 1st sg aor ind act pres_redupl
  • 32. present is listed as possibility but only perfect is correct: κειμένην Present Tense, not Perfect. (NB this happens with a whole family of similar verbs)
  • 33. ἀνδρωνῖτιν is listed as feminine when listed as a possible form of ἀνδρών
  • 34. βασιλίσσης is listed as attic epic ionic N-GSF under βασίλισσα and βασιλείας
    is listed as attic doric aeolic N-GSF under βασίλεια. Shouldn't the attic dialect be in one or the other, and not both?
  • 35. παρακαλῶ includes V-FAI-1S as an option. This is not correct — not a liquid form, but is from παρακαλέω. same problem with the ἀποτελῶ (from ἀποτελέω). I suggest you check all "-LEW" verbs for this error.
  • 35a. Similar to an error I just reported, here with ἐπικαλοῦμαι V-FMI-1S is one of the listings. V-FMI-1S of ἐπικαλέω would be ἐπικαλέσομαι. This is not a liquid Verb, but an –EW contracted form.

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  • 36. should include masculine accusative plural: τραχεῖς | adj pl masc nom attic epic contr
  • 37. διατελεῖτε | verb 2nd pl fut ind act attic epic contr. "if" the form were the uncontracted
    διατελῶ, then V-FAI-2P would be a correct option (note: this report is very garbled and repeats a form twice)
  • 38. ἀσθενές should include A-ASF and A-ASM; a masc./fem Adjective.
  • 39. ἀποκρίνω should include V-FAI-1S; V-APS-1S. Liquid Verb as with results for κρινώ
  • 40. ἐπιστολεύς s/b masculine
  • 41. συνέχει listed under συνόχωκα which itself should be listed under συνέχω for clarity
  • 42. καταλλάγητε should include the V-2APM-2P case (or since you do not show 2nd
    Aorist, V-APM-2P), as it is used in 2Co 5:20 in the Westcott Hort NT
  • 43. ὑστέρησιν | noun sg fem acc under ὑστέρημα should be Neuter, "if" it should be
    there at all.

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  • 44. ζήσομεν | verb 1st pl fut ind act should not include future (ζήσωμεν is future)
  • 45. ἐπιστολεύς is not feminine
  • 46. should παρηγγέλλομεν include verb 1st pl aor ind act attic epic ionic? (see παρηγγείλαμεν)
  • 47. should include feminine also νηφαλίους adj pl masc acc
  • 48. The entries of ἐμπαιγμονῇ under ἔμπαιγμα should not be there. ἔμπαιγμα is a
    Neuter Noun
  • 49. φῴδων (Aristophanes Plutus 535) not found -- derived from φωΐς
  • 50. κονίποδε (Aristophanes Eccl 834) not found -- derived from κονίποδες
  • 51. πρίασθε should be aorist not present
  • 52. καταβήσομαι is not a derivative of καθάπτω
  • 53. Κρέουσ᾽ is Κρέουσα, noun sg fem nom
  • 54. ἀποτετόρνευται Pl.Phdr.234e is derived (more accurately) from ἀποτορνεύω not τορνεύω
  • 55. ἀνήτινον not found derived from ἀνήθινος

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lcerrato commented May 21, 2020

  • 56. διάμετρος | noun sg masc nom -- LSJ lists as feminine
  • 57. is accent correct on δεικνῦσι verb 3rd pl pres ind act and δεικνῦσι verb 3rd sg pres ind act
  • 58. δυεῖν from numeral δύο (late Attic) not found
  • 59. ληνός trough is feminine not masculine
  • 60. μείζονα verb not noun
  • 61. gender of Ἐπίδαυρος (Epidaurus) should be masculine/feminine
  • 62. προσιών | part sg pres act masc nom fromm πρόσειμι should be 2nd aorist
  • 63. tool of the accentual rule for final --οι and -αι in optative endings, does not disambiguate λῦσαι/λύσαι
  • 64. word ἐπεσσεύοντο in Iliad 2.86 shows only πεσσεύω "play at draughts", but the actual word is ἐπισεύω, "hurry" (3rd pl pres ind mid poetic).
  • 65. liad 21.283. αποερση in this line, the WST takes you to the wrong word, which should be an old epic aor. 1 only found in the 3d person meaning "to sweep away," according to LSJ.
  • 66. Iliad 21.414: first word καλλιπες, WST says from καταλιμπανω, but that's wrong, should be καταλειπω.
  • 67. liad 21.424, έπιεισαμενη, WST says from εφιζω but Autenrieth says from επίειμι.
  • 68. κατατριβήσεται not found

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lcerrato commented May 27, 2020

  • 69. ἄγγελλε verb 2nd sg aor imperat act incorrect should be 2nd sg indicative imperative active
  • 70. παραλήμψομαι at John 14.3 not found
  • 71. καθημένους part pl perf mid masc acc It should be present tense instead of perfect (source: Zerwick’s Grammatical Analysis of the Greek New Testament).
  • 72. 'λήμψεται' in 1 Cor. 3:14 not found. I think that it is the Middle, Indicative, 3rd sing, fut of 'λαμβάνω'. Are other forms of the verb missing?
  • 73. ἐπέσχεν shows lemma ἐπώχατο instead of ἐπέχω (and ἐπέχω itself resolves incorrectly to ἐπώχατο)
  • 74. In Euripides, IA 571, for the word “ἐνὼν”, the Greek Word Study Tool propose only νάω while it should propose ἔνειμι
  • 75. same line for the word μυριοπληθὴς (which exists) nothing found
  • 76. υπισχετο -said to come from ισχω hold back; but should be υπισχομαι promise.
  • 77. ἐδεξάμην has two possible options: δείκνυμι and δέχομαι. but second aorist for δείκνυμι is ἐδειξάμην, with an ι between the ε and the ξ.
  • 78. δεύω1 seems not to be a possible lemma for some forms (δεύει goes to δεύω2 only)
  • 79. λελασμένος is a perfect participle of the verb, "λανθάνω."
  • 80. ἕσσαν/ἕσσα should be listed as from ἕννυμι

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lcerrato commented May 27, 2020

  • 81. ἐλεφηράμενος in Iliad 23.388 not found
  • 82. ἰσδάνει not found ἱζάνω (also ἰσδάνω) Verb pres ind act 3rd sg [aeolic] Verb pres ind mid-pass 2nd sg [aeolic]
  • 83. ἀποδρᾷ -- its head verb is ἀποδιδράσκω, not δραω as the computer proposes.
  • 84. ἐφέξων does not resolve to ἐπέχω (lemma not found)
  • 85. δαιτός from δαίς not found; δαῖτα resolves to the poetic form δαίτη (not δαίς)
  • 86. ἐπεξῇσθα links to ἔξεστι and ἐξίημι, but the two of them are not correct.
    It is a rare form from ἀπέξειμι < εἶμι
  • 87. two possible parses for the word ξυνήθη from the verb ἠθέω. The word is, in fact, not verbal at all. The correct parse is: accusative singular feminine, ξυνήθης (or, in the standard Attic form, συνήθης), adjective, meaning 'dwelling together, habituated, habitual'.
  • 88. ἀπέσχον (Iliad, book 22, line 83) resolves to ἐπώχατο should be ἐπέχω, offer, aor. ἐπέσχον. (see also 73 and 84 in this list)
  • 89. ὥφελλ’ in Iliad, 7, 390. is the epic aorist 2 of ὀφείλω (or possibly the imperfect of ὀφείλω).
  • 90. σχέθε (as found in e.g. Iliad 1.219 and 11.96) not found, which according to both Autenrieth's and Cunliffe's Homeric dictionaries is an aorist of ἔχω (parallel to the somewhat more usual form ἔσχον).


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lcerrato commented May 28, 2020

  • 91. ἠνώγειν | verb 1st sg plup ind act attic epic ionic is 3rd sg plup at Od. 5.112
  • 92. προυφάνης does not resolve to προφαίνω
  • 93. ἀπερέουσι I think that this should be 3 plural future of ἀπεῖπον
  • 94. ἔθευ is 2nd aorist indicative, 2nd person singular, middle (Ionic personal ending, ref. 'Greek Grammar’ by HW Smyth in note to para. 465 b ) of τίθημι
  • 95. δημηλασία (Aeschyl. Suppl. 6), δημήλατος (Aeschyl. Suppl. 614) not found
  • 96. ἀπήλλαξε (Herodotus, 1.16.2) the word that pops up is ἀπαλλαξείω; however, the correct word, according to LSJ ​should be ἀπαλλάσσω.
  • 97. ἀνοῖσαι is aorist infinitive of ἀναφέρω (noted at start of LSJ entry)
  • 98. ἀνάστηθι | verb 2nd sg aor imperat act must be passive, not active
  • 99. καθαπερεί not found
  • 100. ἤμεθα derived from εἰμί (not an option)
  • 101. ἀφιστημι -- told it’s a form of ἀφεστήξω (not recognized as lemma)
  • 102. there is a morph tool loop between ἕπω and ἕπομαι which makes accessing the former impossible
  • 103. similar loop with συμπίτνω and συμπίπτω — you can't get to the latter
  • 104. Il. 18.447 ἐείλεον resolves to λέγω2 but should be εἴλω
  • 105. διακεχρημένον resolves to χράω2 instead of διαχράομαι
  • 106. Hom. Il. 6.198, παρελέξατο shared her bed is linked to παραλέγεσθαι to pluck out a hair. It must of course be παραλέχεσθαι

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lcerrato commented Jun 5, 2020

  • 107. there is another LSJ loop between εἴδω and οἶδα where you can't get to the correct entry via the WST
  • 108. ληνός "trough" should be feminine
  • 109. ἀπηλλάγημεν in Thuc VI 82.3 is linked to the verb: ἀπαλλαξείω but s/b ἀπαλλάσσω (NB there are some intervening steps you need to take to get there but you do get there)
  • 110. confusion rather than error: ἄροιτο does not take you to ἄρνυμαι but rather αἴρομαι
  • 111. ἐπέζωσε (Hdt. 1.120.1) gives you ἐπιζώννυμι, but it should be ἐπιζάω as the lexicon indicates
  • 112. ἀνοῖσαι (Hdt. 1.157.3) -> ἄνω and ἀνέω. However, the correct word is ἀναφέρω, as the Lexicon indicates
  • 113. letters not actually lemmata options? (such as χεῖ in Plato = chi)
  • 114. ἐλεύθω not found
  • 115. δέδιμεν verb perf inf act is not correct, it is 1pl perf Cf. Smyth 703 or LSJ s.v. δείδω (NB not found as lemma or in LSJ)

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lcerrato commented Jun 5, 2020

  • 116. ἔπεσα does not resolve to πίπτω.
  • 117. In Demosthenes 33 21 (Apatourios) there is the word ἁπορρηθὲν. The word is correct, but when clicked on, the link is incorrect. The existing link goes to the verb ἀπορρέω, which is incorrect. The link should go to the word ἀπεῖπον, since the meaning here is "forbid".

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lcerrato commented Nov 29, 2022

  • 120. Hesiod's Works and Days, line 105, the word ἐξαλέασθαι appears. When users click on that word, the dictionary function wrongly takes them to the entries ἀλέω and ἀλεάζω. The proper word is ἐξαλέομαι, "evade."
  • 121. ἐπέσυτο, Euripides’ Phoinissae 1065: is επισ(σ)εύω = ἐπισεύω put in motion
  • 122. ἐγγίζω not in morph tool although it is a dictionary entry (NT Greek)
  • 123. ἐννοημάτων not found; entry ἐννό-ημα seems to be incorrectly grouped with prior lemma
  • 124. ἐνέοι Hdt. 7.6.4 is ἔνειμι not ἐνεός (LSJ references this passage and use

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  • 125. duplicated 3x http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=paideusai&la=greek
  • 126. Re. Iliad 449: ἔπληντ᾽ is a form of πελἀζω, not πίμπλημι.
  • 127. ἀπομένω linked to μένω instead of ἀπομένω
  • 128. σπῆι the two choices to vote on are the verbs ἕπομαι and σπάω. It's actually neither. It's the dative of the noun σπέος

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  • 129. ἀπολείπω has been erroneously interpreted as a collateral form of the rare and late verb ἀπολιμπάνω, when it really should be the other way around.

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  • 130. In Il. 24.79, ἔνθορε is incorrectly parsed with this: ἔνθορος adjective 1st & 2nd ἐνθορ-ε vocative singular masculine ἐνθορ-ε vocative singular feminine
    ἔνθορος isn't a word. The parsing should give the aorist of ἐνθρῴσκω instead.
  • 131. In Il. 24.83, σπῆι is incorrectly glossed as coming from ἕπομαι or σπάω, when it's a form a σπέος.
  • 132. In Il. 24.84, εἵαθ' (εἵατο), from ἧμαι, has no info at all.
    Report an issue: urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg001.perseus-grc2:24.70-24.100 #25

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