[New device support]: Yale "YMZB-100" Zigbee module made by Assa Abloy for Yale Doorman Classic, Yale Doorman V2N, Yale Doorman L3 and Yale Conexis L1, Yale Conexis L2, (and possibly other Yale locks for the European market)

[Hedda]

Note! This is a new informal spiritual follow-up device feature request to #4778 and Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman-converters#3326 (by @danieledwardgeorgehitchcock) as it seems like the old but already supported Control4 ZYA-C4-MOD-S (previous known working Zigbee module for Yale Doorman V2/V2N or Yale Doorman L3 and Yale Conexis L1 / Yale Conexis L2) looks to be discontinued (or changed model number, and Control4's newer AYR202-ZB-C4 module from Control4 looks to only be compatible with Yale Assure Lock and Yale nexTouch locks which use a different format), thus looking for other Zigbee modules specifically for Yale locks for the Yale oorman series and Yale Conexis series in Europe.

Wondering if anyone has bought and tested Assa Abloy's "YMZB-100" Zigbee module for Yale's European locks as sounds as it should be compatible with at least Yale Doorman V2, Yale Doorman V2N, Yale Doorman L3, Yale Doorman L3S, Yale Conexis L1, and Yale Conexis L2 smart locks?

At least when searching there seems to be a Yale Doorman Zigbee module that has the Model/SKU/Article/Part-number "YMZB-100" which has been sold for the last couple of years in Norway that says to be manufactured by ASSA ABLOY, and as you may know; ASSA ABLOY is the parent company of Yale Europe, so might perhaps that is also be compatible with other Yale Doorman series and Yale Conexis series branded locks sold for the European market?

• https://support.futurehome.no/hc/en-no/articles/360021021057-Yale-Doorman-Zigbee-Module

The product itself looks to be primarly marketed for the "Futurehome" and "Eva" smart home hubs (both Norwegian) that market themself as being compatible with most Zigbee devices:

• https://www.intin.no/produkt/futurehome-zigbee-modul-for-yale-doorman-v2n/

Though can now mostely be found pre-owned/used:

• https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=367431254
• https://allematpriser.no/tilbud/elimport:product:4509475/
  • https://allematpriser.no/tilbud/elimport%3Aproduct%3A94350/
  • https://allematpriser.no/tilbud/elimport%3Aproduct%3A94329/

Note! I have not yet bought it but know that Yale have previously used a different color for each different protocol and manufacturer and FYI, from pictures it looks like the color of this YMZB-100 Zigbee module looks to be red (or red-brown / wine-red / burgundy colored):

For reference:

Futurehome is a company in Norway making their own multi-protocol hub (Futurehome Smarthub 1v1-EU and Futurehome Smarthub II / 2.0) that is listed as being compatible with that "YMZB-100" Yale Doorman Zigbee Module:

• https://support.futurehome.no/hc/en-no/articles/360021021057-Yale-Doorman-Zigbee-Module

Eva (another smart home company from Norway) who also have their own Zigbee gateway looks to support the same module:

• https://evasmart.no/produkter/trygghet/modul-yale-doorman-dorlasmodul
  • https://hjelp.evasmart.no/hc/en-us/articles/6327009984657-Yale-Doorman-V2N-Zigbee-module

PS: I believe that the Yale Doorman V2 and Yale Doorman V2N (and their successor Yale Doorman L3 and Yale Doorman L3S) are the most sold smart locks in Scandinavia if not the whole European Union, and similarly the Yale Conexis L1 / Yale Conexis L2 are the sold smart locks in the United Kingdom. And again, the Zigbee radio modules for those are not compatible with Yale Assure Lock or Yale nexTouch locks as those use a different format.

[ristoavila]

I'm also looking for this but havent found any one who is shipping it to Finland

[jpsmith16]

Commenting to follow, as I'd be interested in this module for a Conexis L1 with Zigbee2MQTT. Would also need to find someone that posts them to UK / Ireland!

[danieledwardgeorgehitchcock]

You'd probably be best getting the Control4 module - I got mine from a dealer on the UK C4 forums and did all of my converter development on a Conexis L1 - I've also tested it as compatible with the Conexis L2

[jpsmith16]

Thanks. I’ve not tried as have seen others post on C4 forums, but they were from a few years ago. So assumed it’d be a lost cause and went Z Wave route. But can only ask I suppose!

[cbjornerud]

I tried to add this device to my Yale Doorman Classic today. It was found, but not recognized by Home Assistant. I tested with both ZHA and Z2M. ZHA with a router close, Z2M with the coordinator itself very close.
I have read somewhere that this device is made only to work with systems approved by Yale. In this case EVA and Futurehome. I will probably go back to using the Verisure module and sell this to someone with EVA or Futurehome.

[Hedda]

It can probably be made to work by a developer but Zigbee2MQTT first needs a zigbee-herdsman converter:

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/advanced/support-new-devices/01_support_new_devices.html

That translate the device customizations, as ZHA would need a ZHA Device Handler (a.k.a a custom quirk):

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha#how-to-add-support-for-new-and-unsupported-devices

You can submit feature requests however you news to help by provising diagnostics logs and info.

[danieledwardgeorgehitchcock]

When creating the converter for the C4 module, I added a lot of the cluster attributes for the Doorman - the functionality between the Yale Keyfree and Doorman are very different (with different clusters) and the way this is handled by Control4 is to check the firmware attributes of the lock when adding the device to the Zigbee network, then reconfiguring the driver.

I'd assume that Yale wouldn't re-invent the wheel on core functional concepts of the modules created for different providers so, it is entirely feasible that a majority of the code I created for the C4 module will work with the Futurehome one.

That being said, I didn't add a lot of the Doorman functionality to my converter as I didn't have a YMZB-100 module or a Doorman lock to test and was therefore relying on feedback from others, which proved prohibitive.

I am happy to assist in whatever way I can to get this module integrated in Z2M though.. I don't think it'd take too much to get basic functionality working of the lock.

The question I kept asking myself while creating the C4 converter was, "yes I can do it, but what advantage is it bringing to the table other than having all my IoT devices on a single network?!" - these Zigbee modules are getting quite long in the tooth now, and as such, are missing a lot of the conveniences modern Yale modules provide.. The converter was a labour of love and curiosity for me - in the end, I reverted back to the Yale WiFi module with its solid integration with Home Assistant..

[Hedda]

Yale has a big lock company behind it (Assa Abloy) so they will at least making new versions of the Yale Doorman locks, at at least their official modules have been backwards compatible.

[danieledwardgeorgehitchcock]

If somebody can get this module to pair with Z2M and get the fingerprint from the database, I can at least begin to look into whether the work that I did for the C4 module can be ported.

Better still, if someone has a Doorman with a YMZB-100 module that they could send (lend / donate / sell (cheap)) to me in the UK, I should be able to get this integrated using the knowledge that I gained from integrating the C4 module..