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"apt install --install-suggests kicad" a very bad idea #401
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What was the exact output that it proposed? I tried this earlier today and only got new kicad stuff. Maybe you mistyped something? |
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I have a saved apt history.log file. Also, the OS i'm running is a Lubuntu 18.04.2 LTS |
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Maybe the fact that i had previously installed the kicad package from the ubuntu repositories had something to do with that? I don't remember if i uninstalled it first, for some reason i don't see that in the log. Neither a previous install, nor the uninstall. But i remember that i installed it from the ubuntu repositories and the cross cursor ghosted all over the screen in kicad, so i went to the kicad-pcb site, and followed the instructions to install from there. |
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I agree, it's not a good idea to suggest a user such a command line command! There is strong reason why install-suggests is never be turn on in any Debian based distribution. It would be better if users get a better explanation what packages they need to install for what reason. Never suggest new users which probably doesn't really know what they are doing on the CLI such an installation option. |
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Maybe it is better to just have all the kicad packages listed explitcitly in the command |
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After cleaning that mess with the help of the saved log, i reinstalled by simply running: apt install kicad So far, so good. I didn't needed to install anything else yet. I went thru the tutorial. Great software. I was using an old EAGLE version before, and this looks so much better already! |
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I came here to raise a new issue on the very same thing! Installing KiCad 5.1.2 on fresh install of PopOS 18.04 LTS.
Suggest the documentation for Ubuntu be updated to remove the --install-suggests. |
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I went ahead with downloading the 6GB+ of archives last night as suggested (on a 700kB/s line), causing my PC to become cluttered with a huge list of unnecessary software. A few of the packages brought up configuration options I knew nothing about - a possible security risk. I'm going to wipe my disk and reinstall as a result. Please do replace "sudo apt install --install-suggests kicad" at http://kicad-pcb.org/download/ubuntu/.
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The install-suggests stuff was added with commit 5a28846 There sadly is no pull request associated with it meaning there also is no discussion that would explain why this was added (possibly the discussion is somewhere in the mailing list) |
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In the Kicad install page for ubuntu, it says that:
But actually, if you do that, apt will download roughly 5GB of files and install stuff that has nothing to do with kicad, like “Claws Mail”. They were more than 3000 packages, IIRC.
It also installs what seems to be every electronics application known to man.
So, probably it would be a good idea to NOT suggest to do that, and just install kicad, kicad-library and kicad-doc packages? (or whatever is considered a full installation, it's the first time that i attempt to install kicad)
Regards
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